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Lifestyle => Train of Thought => Topic started by: Jome on December 01, 2003, 07:23:46 PM
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I saw the footage of this on the news today, and dayyum they beat the living shit out of the dude..
True, the big dude hit one of the policemen first, but the policemen hit the dude 20-40 times back with their batons when he's already down on the ground.
http://edition.cnn.com/2003/US/Midwest/12/01/died.in.custody/index.html
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Haha they forgot about the camera. They are gonna say he had super human strength because he was on PCP.
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They'll have trouble speaking themselves out of this one..
Hey, let's beat the living shit out of that black fat guy.. oh fuck, I forgot about the camera in the car that tapes everything we do.. dumbasses.
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*waitin for CWalker to excuse these bastards*
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Definitly extreme. Cincinatti already has a rep for racial issues and it's police. They are fucked on this one, and imo rightfully so.
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Yeah bad shit...idiots tho bein caught by own camera...
...he did hit once but thats no reason to be outnumbered...and beaten to a bloody mess just cos some pig doesnt like the shirt you wearin'
...(hope ice cube come up with another banga)
...to get some respect we had to tear this motherfucker up!
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yea i saw that it was quite bad. he was still trying to get up when they were beating so i'm not surprised he was beaten more they neva showed them doing anything when he was on the ground tho
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^ yeah seriously it's horrible what happened to him, but what the hell was he doing trying to get back up.
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thats some fucked up shit.
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what sentence, if any, will those pigs get???
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It is pretty sad when the police are being treated like criminals instead of the actual criminal. This 350lb idiot was resisting arrest and lunged at the police. The whole time he was trying to get on his feet and ignoring the policemen's orders to stay on the ground. Now what should the cops do, let him beat their asses? This animal was high off of PCP and cocaine and a few other drugs and was not going to go down without force.
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^^^ ur a fuck, and only that stupid american flag tells me why ur so stupid
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think they got a little carried away when they were beating him and forgot what they were doing. Why didn't they try something other than beating him to death...like a taser or lot's of mase....
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resisting arrest well being beaten does not come with a death sentance. police brutality has been a issue that non white people have dealt with for many years. wither the person is a criminal or not, does not give a person the right to abuse his human rights. hell, even bush signed a law stating that women prisioner cannot be raped in jail by mail prision guards, as they have been for many years. it's not an issue of left wing or right wing, i talk to people of both and both agree it's wrong. the fact that people like jake and cwalker are trying to justify, even a little does not make you conservatives, as bush fucking even signed a prisioners rights bill. it means your dump asses, both sides agree this is wrong, why do you continue to justify this garbage that my grandfather feared for my father, my father feared for me, and now i'll fear for any son i have. being non-white, and a criminal does not warren a death sentance unless you threaten the cops lives, and are a legit threat. god damn man, how can people even remotely think this is right, his no animal, but a person, like you, who makes mistakes, and lord knows we all make mistakes.
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Didnt nkow the guy died tho..that confirmed ?
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Didnt nkow the guy died tho..that confirmed ?
yea those crackers did him like it was the year 1850
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niggaz been goin through this for decades man
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^^^ ur a fuck, and only that stupid american flag tells me why ur so stupid
great way to debate his argument ::)
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whats with all those old people in your sig
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http://www.jeffmash.com/videos/chrisrock.asf
I'm getting in my handbasket right now...
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well this is crazy, i wonder how police would treat the man if he were white.
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that's easy, they don't pull whites over
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Actually, I've got a different take.
I'm sure there are many many many racial beatings on black people by white cops all the time in the U.S., I'm not denying it or downplaying it, but I don't think this was racially motivated at all. If you listen to the tape, you get a totally different picture. When the cops roll up, they had been told by the paramedics that the guy was being belligerant, that's why the parameds left. They pull up, and go "Tell us what's going on" the guy starts coming at them. They keep going "Tell us what's going on" over and over again, and he's trying to fight them. He says "Fuckin' Crackers... Rednecks...." then says "Let me show you what my momma taught me" and takes a swing at one of them. They're telling him to back up the entire time, and tell him to calm down, he won't. Finally, they have to hit him. I'd do the same thing, you'd do the same thing. Here's a 400 pound man strung out on pcp and cocaine? He could lift a fucking tank if he wanted to. It's unfortunate that it happened like this, but unfortunately, when you're hopped up on drugs, and trying to kill cops, shit like this happens.
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Yeah, I got family in the police force. The thing is, that you don't beat a man to death. You used the force that's necessary to arrest the man, you don't beat him to death. A 400 pound man or not, he is still a man. Another life, which is wrong to take.
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^ They beat him until he stopped moving. Unfortunately, he was hopped up on drugs, and had an enlarged heart, so he died. They didn't provide the circumstance that killed him. If you can't fight 3 cops, don't try! It's as simple as that. Watch the tape.
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^ They beat him until he stopped moving. Unfortunately, he was hopped up on drugs, and had an enlarged heart, so he died. They didn't provide the circumstance that killed him. If you can't fight 3 cops, don't try! It's as simple as that. Watch the tape.
I have, and basically it's like anything else. Remember that kid in Inglewood, slammed on the hood of a car, and now this. Supporting this does not make you conservative, as I said. I know plenty of real conservatives, not ones that only been conservative for the last two years, who don't support this. They even mentioned how bad it is.
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There's nothing political about it. I just don't see how you say it's racial, when the black guy was the one spitting racial shit, they told him not to move, and he did anyways. I don't know where you got the idea that it's alright to ignore the police, and take swings at them, but there are repurcussions to actions like that. The repurcussions were, the police beat him into submission. Unfortunately, he was unhealthy, and hopped up on CRACK (remember, this is a crackhead you're defending), and his heart gave out on him. Sad situation, but how is it the cops fault? That's rediculous. You have a victim mentality. Grow up, realize what responsibility is.
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http://www.jeffmash.com/videos/chrisrock.asf
I'm getting in my handbasket right now...
Chris Rock makes good points thru comedy
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Oh god, and what about the other people beaten. I guess all minorities are on crack when they get beaten.
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So since I've proven to you that this incident had nothign to do with racism, you switch tactics and say "well, other people get beaten that aren't on crack".
Face it, you can't debate the truth.
What we have here, is a RACIALLY motivated BLACK man attempting to beat down 2 cops he had never met before, all the while screaming "Cracker" and "Redneck" at them. Where's the justice, M Dogg? When will you step out and say that this man shouldn't have fought these two police officers.
1. He swung first
2. He called them crackers and rednecks.
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There's nothing political about it. I just don't see how you say it's racial, when the black guy was the one spitting racial shit, they told him not to move, and he did anyways. I don't know where you got the idea that it's alright to ignore the police, and take swings at them, but there are repurcussions to actions like that. The repurcussions were, the police beat him into submission. Unfortunately, he was unhealthy, and hopped up on CRACK (remember, this is a crackhead you're defending), and his heart gave out on him. Sad situation, but how is it the cops fault? That's rediculous. You have a victim mentality. Grow up, realize what responsibility is.
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So since I've proven to you that this incident had nothign to do with racism, you switch tactics and say "well, other people get beaten that aren't on crack".
Face it, you can't debate the truth.
What we have here, is a RACIALLY motivated BLACK man attempting to beat down 2 cops he had never met before, all the while screaming "Cracker" and "Redneck" at them. Where's the justice, M Dogg? When will you step out and say that this man shouldn't have fought these two police officers.
1. He swung first
2. He called them crackers and rednecks.
Your using one time to justify others. I'm thinking that this can also bring up discusing for other times. It's not that I can't deal with reality, it's that we come from two different realities. You come from a reality were you feel safe with the police, were as I feel like I'm indanger when I'm around them. That is honestly my reality, and I have stories as a law biting citizen to back them up. Reality is that in the eye of the beholder.
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THEN ADMIT THAT THIS BEATING WASN'T RACIAL! you've slammed these two cops through the mud in this thread, and in reality, THEY were the ones getting yelled slurs at, and they were the ones who were attacked by a 400 pound CRACKHEAD. LOL
M Dogg, racism is racism. Now, if you want to get anyting done about police being racist against minorities, you should speak out also on minorities being racist against policemen. Why did he have to call them a cracker, and a redneck? Until you condemn this dead fat son of a bitch crackhead who attempted to kill two officers because of their SKIN COLOR, I can't take anything you say about any other beatdowns seriously.
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So since I've proven to you that this incident had nothign to do with racism, you switch tactics and say "well, other people get beaten that aren't on crack".
Face it, you can't debate the truth.
What we have here, is a RACIALLY motivated BLACK man attempting to beat down 2 cops he had never met before, all the while screaming "Cracker" and "Redneck" at them. Where's the justice, M Dogg? When will you step out and say that this man shouldn't have fought these two police officers.
1. He swung first
2. He called them crackers and rednecks.
Your using one time to justify others.
What others? What am I justifying? We're talking about 1 incident, you're the one switching shit up. Dude, slow down, I know maybe you can't roll with me when we've got 10 discussions going, but try and keep up.
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THEN ADMIT THAT THIS BEATING WASN'T RACIAL! you've slammed these two cops through the mud in this thread, and in reality, THEY were the ones getting yelled slurs at, and they were the ones who were attacked by a 400 pound CRACKHEAD. LOL
M Dogg, racism is racism. Now, if you want to get anyting done about police being racist against minorities, you should speak out also on minorities being racist against policemen. Why did he have to call them a cracker, and a redneck? Until you condemn this dead fat son of a bitch crackhead who attempted to kill two officers because of their SKIN COLOR, I can't take anything you say about any other beatdowns seriously.
We get a police force that we can trust, then we'll talk.
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LOL GOTCHA! You can't do it. You simply cannot admit, that this is a case of a minority being racist against a white man. You can't admit it. In your world, it doesn't exist.
We have an out of shape, crackhead minority PICKING A FIGHT on people in the fucking driveway of a fast food place, cussing out cops, calling them racial slurs, and attempting to kill them, and when they beat him off of thm, and his heart explodes, you can't even see right from wrong.
LOL. I love you people. You're like little pets. My dog hasn't learned to not shit on the carpet yet. You haven't learned shades of racism yet, you think you're alone in the world.
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THEN ADMIT THAT THIS BEATING WASN'T RACIAL! you've slammed these two cops through the mud in this thread, and in reality, THEY were the ones getting yelled slurs at, and they were the ones who were attacked by a 400 pound CRACKHEAD. LOL
M Dogg, racism is racism. Now, if you want to get anyting done about police being racist against minorities, you should speak out also on minorities being racist against policemen. Why did he have to call them a cracker, and a redneck? Until you condemn this dead fat son of a bitch crackhead who attempted to kill two officers because of their SKIN COLOR, I can't take anything you say about any other beatdowns seriously.
We get a police force that we can trust, then we'll talk.
Naw man. He's right. This shit has NOTHING TO DO with racism. And it has NOTHING TO DO with police force being trustable or not. It's 1 FACT. Let's comment on THIS FACT first. Then we can start from here and talk about other things, or other facts. But the fact that you dont trust police doesnt make them police officers RACISTS. Or this death a RACIST EXECUTION. It aint. Face it.
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*sign*
Maybe I see a bigger picture that I am used to seeing, and feel that is a very important topic to discuse, for it is a topic that is happening even today.
And oh, trust me, I know reverse racism exist, and even just straight out racism from minorities to whites. I'm a minority, I see it all the time, and I have to yell at peoples to stop, 'cause it gets out of control. But coming from my white friends, who tell me what many white people say, there is still more racism from white to minorities than vice-versa.
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And oh, trust me, I know reverse racism exist, and even just straight out racism from minorities to whites. I'm a minority, I see it all the time, and I have to yell at peoples to stop, 'cause it gets out of control. But coming from my white friends, who tell me what many white people say, there is still more racism from white to minorities than vice-versa.
It's possible. But that's not the case of the incident in Cincinnati. That's what i mean. But hell yeah, it's possible.
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M Dogg, you calling it 'reverse racism' shows that you STILL dont' understand the definition of racism. 'Reverse Racism" would be no racism, wouldn't it? Racism, is Racism. You dont' see it that way, though.
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I said reverse racism, and then flat out racism. Let me explain this to you. Reverse racism is a responds to racism. as an example, when a white person makes a racist commit, reverse racism is the reaction, the responds to the racism. In our college, the fact that many white students avoid minorities, and usually talk bad about them as a minority group, the responds that minorities give is reverse racism. The minority is not trying to put down the white person, but is responding to being put down themselves. Their is no hatred to whites, but a responds to the ignorence around them.
Racism, is the racist conduct that you do to put down another race. So here, it is common for a minority person to go out with a white woman, since our school is like 55% white women. Many minority women here put down white women as inferior to them, so they bash white women for being less than a woman than they are. Also, minority men put together incollege teams to compete, the assumption that black athletes are better than whites is racist. That is to put down a race. That is racism, for that is making a race inferior to yours. Get it now?
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I said reverse racism, and then flat out racism. Let me explain this to you. Reverse racism is a responds to racism. as an example, when a white person makes a racist commit, reverse racism is the reaction, the responds to the racism. In our college, the fact that many white students avoid minorities, and usually talk bad about them as a minority group, the responds that minorities give is reverse racism. The minority is not trying to put down the white person, but is responding to being put down themselves. Their is no hatred to whites, but a responds to the ignorence around them.
Racism, is the racist conduct that you do to put down another race. So here, it is common for a minority person to go out with a white woman, since our school is like 55% white women. Many minority women here put down white women as inferior to them, so they bash white women for being less than a woman than they are. Also, minority men put together incollege teams to compete, the assumption that black athletes are better than whites is racist. That is to put down a race. That is racism, for that is making a race inferior to yours. Get it now?
LOL. Expect Trauma to just pull out individual words out of those paragraphs to create a sentence that says "Whites are inferior", and he will claim you're racist.