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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: SGV on December 02, 2003, 12:23:25 AM
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There's not one emcee without an album that can touch Icon. Only person that might come close, Saigon.
Yo, I spit impossible rhymes, full of philisophical lines/
My phenomenal shine, leave everyone of yo opticals blind/
Run you over when its apocalypse time/
I'm half man-half disel like Optimus Prime/
Cockin' this 9 to pop ya/
Permanent disfigurement have you rockin' half a mask like the Phantom Of The Opera/
Mach 3 is how fast I drop ya/
Warp ?? 5 is the speed they clock the hatchet, as it, deliberatley chops ya/
You that you had a win here/
Like watchin porno flicks with 6 chicks, I'm the hardest one in here/
Straps under new gear, we bust like every night's New Years/
Cerebral hemispheres get blew here/
There's really no need to cuss and fuss/
Just, hop outta the bushes scratched up from the brush and buck/
I make the angriest athiest praise me, if not/
He's feelin' the simultaneous pain of a shot/
And a shank in his pancreas, maybe it's my instantaneous plot/
The craziest emcee couldn't face me if an alien gave him his thoughts/
Kamikazes regulate, I'll strap a time bomb under my trench coat and hug you til it detinate/
I was brain washed by N.W.A. and B.D.P./
I'm the year 2000 version of the D.O.C./
When Crooked I spot these fake cliques/
They better be able to dodge bullets like the Matrix or take six/
I'm so ominous, indominant, improminent/
Hip Hop conglomerate, on this continent, I'm bombin' it!/
When Icon ill out/
i spill out rhymes so offensive even Chino would tell me to chill out
Who is that? Comin' up out the back/
I'm through with wack artists who wanna ruin rap/
Put a hole in yo solarplexes the size of Texas/
I dump from a stolen Lexus, still sex my EX's/
Like Quadrecept the Rap flexes/
I eat the reckless for breakfast/
Then I cross em off my Death Wish check list/
Next is the illa, bitches, mics and scrilla/
Get in fights with killas/
You can come with the wickedest evil/
I jump that ass like Kinevil/
Cuz my cerebral's a cathedral of illegal thoughts I'm lethal/
Hittin' ya with the strength of ten people/
Every'go slide by blastin' out the disel/
This is the art of, manslaughter/
When I'm rockin' I'm more shockin' than droppin' a boom box in bath water/
You entered the wrong scuffle/
You catchin' a chrome buckle/
I uppercut niggas hard enough to break my own knuckles/
Deliver the sick verbals/
My shotty spit a round, before you hit the ground/
your body spin around, in six circles/
Diminishin' infamous menaces/
I'm waitin' to get dicced, if not, I'm a start finishin' innocents/
Lyrics, I'm breezin the region/
Freezin g's in your legion/
Freakin' ancient techniques when I'm speakin' phoenician/
It's all about Crooked/
These bitches shout Crooked/
I'll make you say the West Coast aint shit without Crooked/
I own a vicious label, niggas'll get disabled/
When I'm spittin' rhymes written on project kitchen tables/
I load this 4-5 and let slugs dive at ya/
Now that's for Crooked I, the scrap happy, mic snatcha
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I think Sly Boogy is better in most ways, but he got a album out, even if it feels more like a mixtape.
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There is a lot of underground artists better than your Mainstream/public eye rappers. I know Deathrow is underground now but you know what I mean. Crooked I was hot between 97 and 2001, he's burnt out now if you ask me. I heard the mixtape he did, it isnt very good.
You can also go out to New York, Queens and you will find a lot better than Crooked.
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Knocturnal
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I think Sly Boogy is better in most ways, but he got a album out, even if it feels more like a mixtape.
Sly is better, but Judgement Day is an album.
CPTCYCO: Name some cats. Let's see who you come up with.
Knoc? Better than Icon? Na.
She was a gangsta ass bitch, the greatest of all time
She took my heart and my mind, turned me to a life of crime
Now I'm, under pressure to impress her
I wake up, put on my bullet proof vestin
grab my Smith & Wessin off the dresser
then I, hop up in a chopped up rag Tre
When I, cross your path you're havin a bad day
Cos I, make the automatic mag spray
Gimme the cash, she taught me to get mine the fast way
I creep on ballers while they blaze joints
I'm snatchin caine boulders and jackin Range Rovers at gauge point
Under hypnosis, robbin the closest nigga
The diagnosis - psychosis, the cirrhosis is from doses of liquor
that I'm sippin by the picture, tryin to ditch ya
but when ever she get dug, the bitch'll be witcha for richer
or poorer, through sickness and health
Eyewitness, if I shake this mistress I can handle business myself
But I love her so much I'm stuck in her clutches
I talk about her, can't walk without her, she's my crutches
She showed a young nigga how to check grip
Connectin me with the correct licks to collect chips
And if I leave her, no question I'm destined to hurt
And she's the reason half of the homies are restin in dirt
It's Crooked I next, I'll probably get dropped by some metal (some metal)
Just for comin around my girl (who?), the ghetto (my girl)
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N.U.N.E.
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Littles. . .
Without a doubt, I could drop you 10 other names off the dome, Like the homie, Jome Banks say, one being Sly Boogie from the High East, The inland empire.
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Damn, that Saigon verse seems tight. I thought he already had released an album? ??? It probably was a mixtape then...
From where is that last Crooked I verse that you've posted?
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Optimus Prime was all robot
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I'm a huge Crooked I fan, always have been, but like someone alluded to he's been pretty dull recently. All those verses you posted (all some of my favorites) are like 3 years old or more. His mixtape was weak and his shit on that soundtrack was really generic.
But, on a good day I'm sure he can still tear anyone up.
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Littles. . .
Heard very little of him, show me some verses.
Crafty, I didn't post any Saigon verse. The first two Crooked I verses were from the Chino XL Cypher. The Third one was from "Step Up" off of Streetz Iz A Mutha. The last one is from "Girl" off of the Caught Up Soundtrack.
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The Game...that it!
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Well...I hear everybody sayin Crooked WAS ill but fell off since 2001. I haven't heard that much of him but most of what I heard was still tite. The freestyle he did on Whoo Kid was sick as usual. Still tha row was still better than most of the shit I hear goin around.
Sly is tite, but I'll admit I haven't heard as much of him as Crooked, and from what I have heard of him, I think Crook has the edge. Crooked dropped the best verse on the California remix, which was Sly's song.
Knoc'Turnal...............not even close 2 me. Lyrics, delivery wise, flow, far from Crook's level. And he had an album.
The game isn't as good as Crooked I, the game is pretty tite but he sounds too much like a clone. Crooked I still has better punchlines, multis, and his flow is 100% west coast.
to CPTCYCO..I always hear people sayin that the best rappers are those underground NY rappers. I haven't heard a lot of em, but whenever I do hear them, not on the net but in person, a lot of em sound like strait up clones, and all have the same style and same type of flow, lyrics, multis, etc. etc.
And to everybody who says "there are many underground rappers that are better than the mainstream rappers" that probably is true, but that's true with everything. It's producers that nobody knows better than most of the best ones, it's singers nobody knows who are better than 98% of the ones who are out now, and it's streetballers who have more athletic skill than the players in the league.
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no-one can fuck with Crooked..
even with an album :-X
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Crooked I was hot between 97 and 2001, he's burnt out now if you ask me. I heard the mixtape he did, it isnt very good.
Tray Deee
Goldie Loc
Bad Azz
Technique
all could fuck wit Crooked I. Same with some rappers from Da Lowlifes.
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Tray Deee
Goldie Loc
Bad Azz
Technique
all could fuck wit Crooked I. Same with some rappers from Da Lowlifes.
If you include people with group albums but no solo like Tray Deee and Goldie Loc then you have many, such as Black Thought (of The Roots), Posdnuos (of De La Soul), Andre (of Outkast)...
But MCs that really don't have an album, I'd say Saigon and Ali Vegas. I think Crooked I is more lyrical than both of them but they are better MCs.
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eastwood
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Tray Deee and Goldie Loc fucking with Crooked I? Ha.
Techniec is close, Bad Azz maybe, Tha Low Lifes? Hell na. Crooked I wrecked them each and everytime.
Well so far, Saigon is the only cat fucking with Icon. I wasn't all that impressed by Ali Vegas. Dope artist, but not :o
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I reckon CROOKED I has the dopest flow and freestyle. He is like a lyrical machine gun who spits fire with intellect. The ryhmes he be spittin and the flow is krazy. Seriously when DEATHROW release "Say Hi 2 Tha Bad Guy" Crooked I gonna blow up!!
I think his ryhme, flow and lyrical content are amazing and he be reppin the westcoast to the fullest. I think in a battle with other artists he would destroy them.
The westcoast is dead and has been dead for some time now. Snoop, Dr Dre and even westside connection have not put the westcoast back on the map. The only person I can think of who has as the ability to this is CROOKED I.
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I reckon CROOKED I has the dopest flow and freestyle. He is like a lyrical machine gun who spits fire with intellect. The ryhmes he be spittin and the flow is krazy. Seriously when DEATHROW release "Say Hi 2 Tha Bad Guy" Crooked I gonna blow up!!
I think his ryhme, flow and lyrical content are amazing and he be reppin the westcoast to the fullest. I think in a battle with other artists he would destroy them.
The westcoast is dead and has been dead for some time now. Snoop, Dr Dre and even westside connection have not put the westcoast back on the map. The only person I can think of who has as the ability to this is CROOKED I.
I wish it could be like that...nowadays blowin up has nothin to do with talent, but all who u roll with. He's more talented that 98% of the rappers around but that doesn't mean shit in this industry. If he had been in 50's exact position, yeah he woulda blew up, but bein with Tha Row, I really doubt it.
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Dirty Birdy
yall even siad your self that Sly was better then crook.
well, IMO Dirty Birdy is REAL close to sly
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Dirty Birdy
yall even siad your self that Sly was better then crook.
well, IMO Dirty Birdy is REAL close to sly
I also think Dirty Birdy is better than Crooked I. Y'all should go to westcoast2k and check out Ripashun.
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Dirty Birdy
yall even siad your self that Sly was better then crook.
well, IMO Dirty Birdy is REAL close to sly
Na, Birdy ain't better than Crooked I. Sly Boogy is better than Birdy and just a little better than Icon.
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Would you at least agree that Crook and Birdy are on the same level?
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Would you at least agree that Crook and Birdy are on the same level?
Na. Because Birdy ain't seeing Icon. Not on his best day. Birdy sort of went un-noticed on the Anthem, whereas Icon outshined everyone.
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Tray Deee and Goldie Loc fucking with Crooked I? Ha.
Techniec is close, Bad Azz maybe, Tha Low Lifes? Hell na. Crooked I wrecked them each and everytime.
judging from the promo gang bang muzik, goldie loc and tray deee are. techniec isnt, bad azz is, low lives arent. in terms of raw creative punches, the game is way harder than crook. but then again, it would be the same case for other metaphor orientated rappers. besides, icon kills him in the flow category. sly and icon are close, sly has a more unique style but at the same time i can see people getting bored of him quick, which i dont see with icon. and birdy isnt even on crook's level
if youre including people who are in groups but dont have solo albums, you can add chace infinite and chali 2na to this list.
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Littles released the album "The Feeding", and is by the way a pretty average rapper, imo. (The Feeding (http://sandbox.pair.com/abstract/littles.html))
Crooked I is pretty dull.. he may be lyrically complex, but even Ras Kass sounds like a charismatic possible superstar, when compared to Crooked.
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Listen to rap killer. Crooked I comes tight as fuck on this song. His flow is amazing. This is one of his best verses ever. Tray Deee's verse on the song is just as hot. Nowadays crooked I comes even close to as sick as he did on this track. Tray deee on the other hand comes just as tight and even tighter. And goldie loc is just about on the same level as Tray Deee. If Crooked I were to go verse for verse against Tray Deee or Goldie Loc today he would lose.
Crooked I beats Tray Deee on gangsta gangsta, but his flow on this song is unfuckwitable. He doesn't flow like that anymore. and tray deee is still a good contender in the song against crook.
I agree that no one can fuck w/ the C-style presents 19th street lbc Players. But how can you say crooked I nowadays even comes close to as dope as he was back then.