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Title: Soopafly responds to Kokane's statements on Dubcnn
Post by: JG on December 03, 2003, 02:15:11 AM
"1st of all the nigga did have a album done. bottom line he turned it in, it was SHITTY. dogg turned it in to mca, they rejected it. the nigga coulda had dogg help em wit some mo shit but he didnt want that. plus the nigga got too many other problems that niggaz aint tryin ta deal wit. the nigga talk about me cuz he just cant understand how a nigga wit no album ever can live so good. its alot more than "eh nigga you got 12 songs we gone put em out" have yall heard. him live? u dont want to. heard his convo? straight geek. niggas aint on dat goofy shit. the shit he sing aint even original. thatz mufuccin george clinton on a very bad day. wut kokane voice sound like? who knows cuz the nigga bite everybody else. and we STILL fucced wit em. the nigga get on stage drunk, singin songs that we aint even doin, fallin off the stage. stupid shit. sign dumb ass contracts but been in the game for dam near 15 years. niggas gotta learn.

i aint even gone cap on em cuz im spittin so much truth right now. shit i feel sorry for em. but to blame another nigga for the way yo destiny is goin is funny to me. and to talk on the internet about a nigga that you gone be real different wit when you see em is succa shit.

if snoop didnt make you nigga then keep on makin yoself. he might be right about snoop not makin em but how many of yall heard of him b4 snoop. and then how many gave a fucc about him if you did hear him b4 snoop.

big bank take no bank. its hard ta hear a broke nigga talkin. yall tell em i said this, getcho life together kokane. you not that bad of a person. but u stucc on dat somebody owe you somethin shit. i dont think you mean that cuz a real gangsta aint gone let no body take his shit. or at least get it bacc. now you fuccin wit niggas who careers is over. buy a house. stop doin internet interviews in hotel rooms witcho family. coulda stayed at my house if it was that bad. plus we got butch and nate dogg. we didnt really need you. i remember you at dogghouse hungry and beggin for a deal. he was gone put you shit out b 4 mines. and you aint in no way fuccin wit me. i didnt trip. cuz i dont hate. getcho llfe ya business ya health ya mouth(misssin teeth) ya wardrobe ya family ya abode (thatz where you live dummy). get all that right them come holla cuz right now all i feel like is you just a bum that need a helpin hand.
cant be mad atchu...........im too high............chucch"

http://www.wcrydaz.com/news.shtml#newsitem1070265777,19688,
Title: Re:Soopafly responds to Kokane's statements on Dubcnn
Post by: Don Seer on December 03, 2003, 02:32:55 AM
""1st of all the nigga did have a album done. bottom line he turned it in, it was SHITTY. dogg turned it in to mca, they rejected it. the nigga coulda had dogg help em wit some mo shit but he didnt want that. plus the nigga got too many other problems that niggaz aint tryin ta deal wit. the nigga talk about me cuz he just cant understand how a nigga wit no album "

damn now thats real.


ya';l remember that book 'westsiders' a few years back where that guy looked up kokane and found him living on nothin with his fam in a caravan just outside of pomona?
Title: Re:Soopafly responds to Kokane's statements on Dubcnn
Post by: JG on December 03, 2003, 02:39:12 AM
Kokane acts childish, like a 12 yr old. Them audios dissing snoop are just pathetic. He suits Kurupt, they are both broke and desperate for a quick dime. So the music isnt going to be the standards of big Snoop Dogg, the Doggystyle Allstars etc.

I didnt know that Overseer, but that matches my comment above :)
Title: Re:Soopafly responds to Kokane's statements on Dubcnn
Post by: Lord Funk on December 03, 2003, 02:46:26 AM
That's cold... but all so real... and yeah, that part of Westsiders was sad... guess he's headed right back there...
Title: Re:Soopafly responds to Kokane's statements on Dubcnn
Post by: Z the laidback Virus on December 03, 2003, 03:33:25 AM
Leaving Snoop was probably one of the dumbest things Kokane ever did. I might be wrong but I think it did give him regular income,directly or indirectly.He sure needs that money with his wife and six kids.

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getcho llfe ya business ya health ya mouth(misssin teeth)

I think is quite funny. Kane probably hasn't got money for seeing the dentist.....or doesn't wanna spend it there.

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wut kokane voice sound like? who knows cuz the nigga bite everybody else.

Coming to think of it,this is quite true.I was surprised by his voice on the audio dissing Snoop.
Title: Re:Soopafly responds to Kokane's statements on Dubcnn
Post by: CRAFTY on December 03, 2003, 04:01:59 AM
Damn, I hope all these beefs between West Coast artists will get settled quickly.
Title: Re:Soopafly responds to Kokane's statements on Dubcnn
Post by: UDollar A.K.A Nino on December 03, 2003, 05:17:53 AM
I can understand that an artist moves from a label, but why
did Kokane diss Snoop? Snoop does not owe him anything,
and when Kane moved from Dogghouse Snoop did not diss him or anything....

Then Kane comes on the net and diss'es Snoop  ???....
Peace




Title: Re:Soopafly responds to Kokane's statements on Dubcnn
Post by: Z the laidback Virus on December 03, 2003, 05:39:27 AM
I can understand that an artist moves from a label, but why
did Kokane diss Snoop? Snoop does not owe him anything,
and when Kane moved from Dogghouse Snoop did not diss him or anything....

Then Kane comes on the net and diss'es Snoop  ???....
Peace

Yeah that bugs me too
Title: Re:Soopafly responds to Kokane's statements on Dubcnn
Post by: eNgIeS on December 03, 2003, 06:23:56 AM
No offense guys, but how do we know that KoKane wasnt owed money

I'm not even a Kokane fan, but Kokane was on alot of Snoops shit, & regardless of whether no one gave a fuck about him before, the point is, Snoop should pay him royalty's for his work. Now he may have, he may not have, we dont know (Snoop, Kokane & people in doggystyle know the real deal), but if he hasnt he has every right to be angry

One things true thou, Kokane had no need to say that shit about Soopafly, even if it was true. What Soop done to him? If he got beef with anyone it should be the owner of the label & the companys that distributed it, which means Snoop & who ever, Soop's just an artist

I love Soopafly & loved that new joint he made about Riccy.
Title: Re:Soopafly responds to Kokane's statements on Dubcnn
Post by: Don Seer on December 03, 2003, 06:25:30 AM
we'll ask ;)
Title: Re:Soopafly responds to Kokane's statements on Dubcnn
Post by: PLANT on December 03, 2003, 07:04:39 AM
real talk
Title: Re:Soopafly responds to Kokane's statements on Dubcnn
Post by: Darksider on December 03, 2003, 07:12:44 AM
I love the westcoast ;D
Title: Re:Soopafly responds to Kokane's statements on Dubcnn
Post by: Krapule on December 03, 2003, 08:06:19 AM
Eyh, sup all?
1st post right here just to ask if y'all remember back in 94, that shit Kokane put on wax "Funk Upon A Rhyme", there was a track called "Don't Bite The Phunk", featured Big Hutch(cold187um)..Remember??
That was hella tight but straight diss for the whole dpg crew (dre included)
quote :

 big hutch -
"yeah- when I first came to Ruthless I was livin'like hustler/
but see you, you was livin' straight like a busta/
I used to think you was a true/
'til I remembered you was in the muthaf**kin' Wreckin Crew/
and then I looked at an old album cover/
it was you chillin' lookin' gay as a muthaf**ka/
I could have took it any kind of way/
but see six months later you were NWA/
and now it's gangsta gangsta pimpsta pimpsta/
but to me you was still wimpsta wimpsta/..."

 big hutch -
"Snoop Dog you better get your paper work right/
because if not you'll be all bark with no bite/
yo- see we go kinda back see/
but see things got f**ked up when your flunkie tried to diss me/
you need to go and check your puppet gee/
because who the f**k is he, to jump up and diss me/
cause I'm a nigga with a gang of thugs/
and I'ma show the muthaf**ka to keep my name out his mouth/..."

"...you're just a flunkie for the D-R-E/
you punk muthaf**ka you wanne be Gee/
and you know I always drop the shit proper/
you can ask your homies or you can ask the doctor/
but he don't get no props neither/
I'ma say it on wax and I can say it when I see ya/ (.fool)
try to kick it like you got stamina/
wip that ass like Luke did in Atlanta/..."
so much to quote, but that was part of 187um lyrics

 Kokane -
"...so no pain no gain/
bakin soda free and they call me Kokane/
now I'ma f**k you up Kurupt/
cause I'ma bust trough your hood like ? ? ? /
cause you gets no propers/
now your throwin' up the Pound
but I'm throwin' up the black mafia/
can't stop us/ what you wanna do/
bring it on Snoop/
and your whole f**kin'puppet pound crew/
it's the nickel slick nigga from Pomona/
not fake like laceres /
but real like tooners/
Snoop Dog you f**kin ? ? ? /
did most of the work with Dre
and still you get your boots knocked/
now I see nigga's rich/
but you was in the county watching monsters shoes like a bitch/
now who's been sleepin' in my bed/
eatin' my funk/, takin dope styles by the chunk/
cause I'ma funky to the finish/
cause your funk got a gang of B-12 in it/..."

......
when i saw this fools makin deals 2gether, that was the most funniest shiit that i've ever heard :p
like when the nigga snoop featured his 'last meal" with almost 90% of cock-ane's songs



Title: Re:Soopafly responds to Kokane's statements on Dubcnn
Post by: michael jackson on December 03, 2003, 09:27:41 AM
all them lb,dpgz claimed lb or 20 but wasnt even frum there.soopafly wass one, he isnt from longbeach,hess a bussta jusst lice ssnoop
Title: Re:Soopafly responds to Kokane's statements on Dubcnn
Post by: AxleF on December 03, 2003, 10:27:46 AM
I heard that Snoop Dogg (before Deathrow) was approached by ATL and Kokane about recording some demo tracks and Snoop said that it just didnt work out.  I cant remember where I read this but if anyones heard about this, let us know..  (not positive on this though)

Axle
Title: Re:Soopafly responds to Kokane's statements on Dubcnn
Post by: Lil Suge Knight on December 03, 2003, 10:38:09 AM
I heard that Snoop Dogg (before Deathrow) was approached by ATL and Kokane about recording some demo tracks and Snoop said that it just didnt work out.  I cant remember where I read this but if anyones heard about this, let us know..  (not positive on this though)

Axle

I think he mentions it on Welcome To Deathrow DVD
Title: Re:Soopafly responds to Kokane's statements on Dubcnn
Post by: dexter on December 03, 2003, 10:49:13 AM
F**K KOKANE!
Title: Re:Soopafly responds to Kokane's statements on Dubcnn
Post by: ··: O.G Kody™ :·· on December 03, 2003, 10:49:35 AM
You can talk about this kind of thing all day but there is so much that goes on behind the scenes that you won't know about.
Title: Re:Soopafly responds to Kokane's statements on Dubcnn
Post by: KURUPTION-81 on December 03, 2003, 11:06:02 AM
ive got that westsiders book its tight.From what soopafly was saying it sounds like kokane has a drink problem, i also read in the past that he had a drug problem. Its a shame as i would really have liked for his album to have come out.
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Post by: dexter on December 03, 2003, 11:11:20 AM
Aint nothing wrong wit a drinking problem!!
Title: Re:Soopafly responds to Kokane's statements on Dubcnn
Post by: Lil Jay on December 03, 2003, 11:23:27 AM
thatz mufuccin george clinton on a very bad day. wut kokane voice sound like? who knows cuz the nigga bite everybody else. and we STILL fucced wit em.

i wonder if he really means it or just said it because hes mad at him, cause its funny how they try to hurt them by saying stuff like this only when they got beef. just like kurupt said that daz cant rap anymore since all eyez on me, but they still worked together for all these years
Title: Re:Soopafly responds to Kokane's statements on Dubcnn
Post by: ecrazy on December 03, 2003, 12:06:49 PM
No offense guys, but how do we know that KoKane wasnt owed money

I'm not even a Kokane fan, but Kokane was on alot of Snoops shit, & regardless of whether no one gave a fuck about him before, the point is, Snoop should pay him royalty's for his work. Now he may have, he may not have, we dont know (Snoop, Kokane & people in doggystyle know the real deal), but if he hasnt he has every right to be angry


WORD....What I Was Thinkin Exactly.....Anyways I Got Mad Love For Kokane...Reppin P-Town To The Fullest
Title: Re:Soopafly responds to Kokane's statements on Dubcnn
Post by: AxleF on December 03, 2003, 12:21:57 PM
thatz mufuccin george clinton on a very bad day. wut kokane voice sound like? who knows cuz the nigga bite everybody else. and we STILL fucced wit em.

i wonder if he really means it or just said it because hes mad at him, cause its funny how they try to hurt them by saying stuff like this only when they got beef. just like kurupt said that daz cant rap anymore since all eyez on me, but they still worked together for all these years


So tru.  I've been thinking that for some time now.  How artists go balls out dissin someone when theres beef.. but before they were doin songs together.. Just dont get it.  Daz cant rap since All Eyes??  I think its Kurupt who's fallin off since those days and most would agree.  I think their feelings get hurt and they cant handle it so they cover it up with anger.  Childish..

Ax
Title: Re:Soopafly responds to Kokane's statements on Dubcnn
Post by: Don Rizzle on December 03, 2003, 02:35:56 PM
come on y'all are your memories that short from the dogghouse bootlegs kokane wouldda had a tight ass album n we didn't even hear all his tracks...
Title: Re:Soopafly responds to Kokane's statements on Dubcnn
Post by: GODBODY on December 03, 2003, 03:09:21 PM
Well all I'll say on this humorous topic is is that actual words from Soopafly? I know a gang of killas and artists and believe me they don't have all double c's at the end of their words and what-not so how accurate is that statement? If it's truly him or his words transcribed then it is what it is, but since this is the internet and I've seen to much fake bullshit on here, I'll reserve comment on that, but as I have tried to reach and teach those who are in contact, when you deal with money, ego's, contracts, etc. etc. things always get taken out of context. I know shit about Kokane and the way he handles business and with Snoop and others artist/CEO's of label's that have wack ass business practices and IF YOU ARE NOT ABOUT YOUR BUSINESS FROM THE VERY BEGINNING, YOU ARE GUARANTEED TO GET FUCKED IN THE ASS. This is really OLD, OLD news to me, but there are more angles to what's been said on the internet and both sides need to come clean, if not let your legal team handle it. Unfortunately my people who come from the streets rather apply total street knowledge to the music business and that never works it's 90% business knowledge 10% street knowledge. But again it comes down to contractual obligation if you say you are going to do something (on either side) then do it or compromise on something, that's why we bounced from Death Row, because we weren't going to stay on a label and unsure of release dates and other ammenities.
Also when doing hooks, vocals or what have you, usually when you are in a session(s), you get paid before and/or after the session is completed, if you help write the song, then you will get your credo and proper royalty payments (if you handled your business right from the start). So if Koka, Nate, and all the other singers just sung hooks then they got paid then and there (if they didn't then they played themselves) and it's a done deal, they don't get anything extra (unless a contract states otherwise). So Supafly produces as well rap, so of course his money is gonna be longer then just a singer/ sometimes-rapper (so it's simple to see how he is living better and not releasing a record).

And ATL learned alot from Dre and what-not, but at the same time Dre learned alot from the group on musical styles (since the whole Hutchinson/Long family are Motown pioneers and the whole family is musical in one form or another). ATL gave Warren his "G-Funk" style, When Dre didn't want to fuck with Warren or Snoop, Warren was always around the studio absorbing the G-Funk sound, and Snoop was to busy doing his thing in the streets to fuck with ATL on a regular, but he did hang around and picked up things here and there. We all know who the G-Funk child is and those who know their west-coast history know who his G-Funk fathers are. And only those just getting into music since 95 Pac wouldn't of known of Kokane or his history, in fact if it wasn't for  Dre really getting  behind Snoop and he just blowin' up, Soopafly, Daz, Kurrupt, and all of them wouldn't be as famous, so everything can be re-directed. Kokane is wrong for going on the internet discussing personal business point blank and Snoop is wise by not saying anything at all, that's why he's still in the game.

HANDLE YOUR BUSINESS BEFORE SIGNING YOUR LIFE AWAY ON A PIECE OF PAPER. LISTEN TO THE INTRO ON LEGENDS IT'S ALL ABOUT BEIN' ABOUT YO BIZNESS  8)
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Post by: Don Seer on December 03, 2003, 03:45:01 PM
thx damon


sorry for draggin this off topic for second...

i just came back here coz i was talkin to nima and i misunderstood where soopa's reply came from..

i ~thought~ it was posted on wc rydaz exclusive.

but ~actually~ soopa ('flyguy' ont he dpg forum) posted that as a reply to nima's thread over there.. no more.
Title: Re:Soopafly responds to Kokane's statements on Dubcnn
Post by: GODBODY on December 03, 2003, 03:51:48 PM
thx damon


sorry for draggin this off topic for second...

i just came back here coz i was talkin to nima and i misunderstood where soopa's reply came from..

i ~thought~ it was posted on wc rydaz exclusive.

but ~actually~ soopa ('flyguy' ont he dpg forum) posted that as a reply to nima's thread over there.. no more.


Ok, I'm confused on your quote, so, that was an actual Soopafly statement that he typed and sent over the internet? I still can't see the overt "gangsta" grammar included or is was it transcibed from over the phone?
and you are saying that he (Soopafly) is on the DPG forum?

Thanks for the clarification (it does wonders on the internet, lol).
Title: Re:Soopafly responds to Kokane's statements on Dubcnn
Post by: Halu Sination on December 03, 2003, 03:59:56 PM
im not that big a soopa fan, but for most part he was right. snoops albums got more exposure for kokane than anything kanes ever done for himself. if he thinks that he never needed snoop in the first place, then what right does kokane have to bitch about it? its not snoop or soopa's fault that nobody likes kokane
Title: Re:Soopafly responds to Kokane's statements on Dubcnn
Post by: Don Seer on December 03, 2003, 04:04:51 PM
thx damon


sorry for draggin this off topic for second...

i just came back here coz i was talkin to nima and i misunderstood where soopa's reply came from..

i ~thought~ it was posted on wc rydaz exclusive.

but ~actually~ soopa ('flyguy' ont he dpg forum) posted that as a reply to nima's thread over there.. no more.


Ok, I'm confused on your quote, so, that was an actual Soopafly statement that he typed and sent over the internet? I still can't see the overt "gangsta" grammar included or is was it transcibed from over the phone?
and you are saying that he (Soopafly) is on the DPG forum?

Thanks for the clarification (it does wonders on the internet, lol).

yeah u got it.. he posted it on the DPG forum as a reply to a post nima made where he had posted that 2nd kokane audio from dubcnn up.

soopa's post is on the 3rd page of this thread >> http://www.dpgrecordz.com/gangstaville/showthread.php?s=&threadid=41806

Title: Re:Soopafly responds to Kokane's statements on Dubcnn
Post by: GODBODY on December 03, 2003, 04:16:49 PM
Ok I see, if that's really him, but that puts things in perspective.
Title: Re:Soopafly responds to Kokane's statements on Dubcnn
Post by: budsmokeronly on December 03, 2003, 11:45:52 PM
what did Kokane say about soopafly?

Title: Re:Soopafly responds to Kokane's statements on Dubcnn
Post by: eNgIeS on December 05, 2003, 12:22:43 AM
what did Kokane say about soopafly?



He gave props to guys like Eastsidaz & Daz, but said something about Soopafly sucking on Snoops balls so his album can come out
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Post by: js83 on December 05, 2003, 02:31:00 AM
Damn, I hope all these beefs between West Coast artists will get settled quickly.
Title: Re:Soopafly responds to Kokane's statements on Dubcnn
Post by: budsmokeronly on December 05, 2003, 10:56:42 AM
what did Kokane say about soopafly?



He gave props to guys like Eastsidaz & Daz, but said something about Soopafly sucking on Snoops balls so his album can come out

LMAO!  why is soopafly takin this shit to the internet when he is calling kokane stupid for doing that?
Title: Re:Soopafly responds to Kokane's statements on Dubcnn
Post by: Picasso on December 05, 2003, 11:14:47 AM
FUCK KOKANE!!!