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DUBCC - Tha Connection => Outbound Connection => Topic started by: Dave Shining on December 09, 2003, 10:16:45 AM
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Irv Gotti says now that Ja Rule is done clapping back at his nemeses, it's time for his homie from Hollis to holla back at the mainstream with his rapping. The duo are currently in the studio banging out a new LP to drop in early 2004.
"Ja's album is coming out at the top of the new year," Irv disclosed Wednesday after a press conference to announce why he dropped the name "Murder" from his label, Murder Inc. "It was always planned for [Blood in My Eye] to be an album that comes out and hits the streets, and then we drop another one that's back to our basic [album] formula of doing big records and street records. That's the chemistry I like. I like the big records and then I like the records for the streets."
Coming with some of his most angry and rough music for an entire album with Blood in My Eye may have been planned to help solidify Ja's credibility, but the move has done little to uphold his status as a radio darling and SoundScan heavyweight. In four weeks, the LP has moved only 284,000 units, a severe tapering off compared to his last LP, The Last Temptation, which sold 237,000 in just its first week. But Gotti says he and Rule weren't going after the huge sales.
"Blood in My Eye was basically Ja Rule giving the 'hood what he felt it wanted to hear from him," he explained. "It wasn't designed to sell 100 million records. We would've loved it. Of course we would take that, but going in, it wasn't designed for that. Ja was just lashing back after all he had to take from the people, from the enemies, from everybody. That was always our intent — put this album out, let them hear him respond back [to 50 Cent's disses] the way he wants to respond back. So I view Blood in My Eye as a tremendous success 'cause the streets got it and the streets is feeling it."
A spokesperson for the Inc. says that while there are currently no plans to put out another single and video from Blood in My Eye, the lead cut from the 2004 album may be out as early as January. There is still no title for Rule's next project.
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what happened to this dude taking a break?
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same here yo i thought blood in my eyes was his last attempt at tryin to get his "crown" back which he will neva be like he was on Venti Vetti Vecci
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what happened to this dude leaving the rap game?
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So I view Blood in My Eye as a tremendous success 'cause the streets got it and the streets is feeling it."
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The streets Jome, not Norway.
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The streets Jome, not Norway.
What streets got it, and felt it.. ??
The grimey streets of San Bernadinho Valley (Spelling) ???
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What streets got it, and felt it.. ??
The grimey streets of San Bernadinho Valley (Spelling) ???
One, that would be the Grimey Streets of the San Bernardino County. Which has a lot of real bad areas, so don't speak on it, since you OBVIOUSLY don't know. You're trying to talk about the San Gabriel Valley, which also has some bad areas. Again, you don't know about it, don't speak on it.
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What streets got it, and felt it.. ??
The grimey streets of San Bernadinho Valley (Spelling) ???
One, that would be the Grimey Streets of the San Bernardino County. Which has a lot of real bad areas, so don't speak on it, since you OBVIOUSLY don't know. You're trying to talk about the San Gabriel Valley, which also has some bad areas. Again, you don't know about it, don't speak on it.
Geez.. once again you're defending the credibility of a album/artist that you don't/didn't like.
The rest is just svada.
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ja is an idiot
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And on another note:
Why did "Blood in my eye" sell like hot pies in San Bernardino County, but not in the rest of U.S. ?
Hmmm... interesting.
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Geez.. once again you're defending the credibility of a album/artist that you don't/didn't like.
The rest is just svada.
Actually, I liked the album. So, yea, you're wrong yet again.
And on another note:
Why did "Blood in my eye" sell like hot pies in San Bernardino County, but not in the rest of U.S. ?
Hmmm... interesting.
You know, I wouldn't know why it sold well there, I'm not form the SBC. Matter of fact, ask Sly Boogy and Dirty Bird, they're SBC Natives. I'm from the San Gabriel Valley, Los Angeles County. BTW, if it's an album for the streets, it's not going to boast huge sales? Why? Because most of the sales come from Teenage MTV watchers, who are more than likely NOT in the streets. So...lets stop the hatred for one minute Jomo and really understand the point of this album.
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You know, I wouldn't know why it sold well there, I'm not form the SBC. Matter of fact, ask Sly Boogy and Dirty Bird, they're SBC Natives. I'm from the San Gabriel Valley, Los Angeles County. BTW, if it's an album for the streets, it's not going to boast huge sales? Why? Because most of the sales come from Teenage MTV watchers, who are more than likely NOT in the streets. So...lets stop the hatred for one minute Jomo and really understand the point of this album.
And exactly how do you know that "the streets" bought the album, and not the leftovers of his MTV/sing-a-song/r'n'b-duet fanbase ??
That's right, you have no clue.
It all comes down to this: If Ja sold 3 mill, Irv would be like "What can I say, the fans love it, Ja is the man"
But it flopped miserably, it sold 250K, and Irv says: "Oh yeah, the hood loved it, Ja is deep in the streets"
The album could have sold 5 UNITS, and Irv would still have a positive exciting outlook on it.
If you can't see the comedy.. I won't point it any more out.
Same would have been for 50, if "Get rich or die trying" sold 250K, and 50/Dre said: "The streets loved it, that's who we made it for", I would still be laughing.
You just trying to turn this into a dickrider/hater situation like always.
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now now girls, no need to argue in every thread
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don't tell me ja is goin back to making r&b songs...i thought he knows that people got sick of that bullshit?...
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And on another note:
Why did "Blood in my eye" sell like hot pies in San Bernardino County, but not in the rest of U.S. ?
Hmmm... interesting.
This muthaphukka talking shit on my home... now ain't that a bitch. LOL. Hey dogg, I don't know what you think out in Europe, but come to the I.E. and talk that shit. Now I know exactly why Ja Rule would sell, hell, I live here and know what people like. Muthaphukkaz here love diss songs. LL dissed Canibus, everyone had to have G.O.A.T., no matter how bad, I remember the most played song out of peoples cars in 2000 was Callin' Out Names, you could not go a day for almost a whole year without hearing that song blasting out of someone's car. 50 is a fake pimp, if Ja is dissing a fake pimp, people here will buy it. Shit, I do think people here do forgive too much, but rap fans hear love to get shit that no one else in pop culture likes. If 106 and Park is booing Ja, then it's cool to get his album. I did go to a Ja Rule concert in San Bernardino when he was at the top of his commercial success in the summer of 2001, and no one was there, and they couldn't give tickets away dispite heavy advertising. (I think it was like $10 the day of the concert for floor sit) But now that people are hating on Ja, San Bernardino will give him a second chance, and if his dissing a fake pimp, then it's all good. Besides, we love a good diss song in San Bernardino County. Now if you go north of San Bernardino, into the mountains with all the rich people, and beyond there with all the Republican's in the desert, their kids might have bought Ja because every north of S.B. are some Republican muthaphukkaz, and there are more of them up in the mountains and desert, than us that live in S.B., Rialto, Fontana, Colton, Bloomington, Ontario and Monclair.
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And exactly how do you know that "the streets" bought the album, and not the leftovers of his MTV/sing-a-song/r'n'b-duet fanbase ??
That's right, you have no clue.
I know because his song wasn't topping all charts. The fans from MTV aren't fans of his rugged shit, they're fans of his Ashanti songs. If it were the 12 year old little girls, believe "Clap Back" would be all over TRL. It wasn't, so therefore, they weren't the consumer.
It all comes down to this: If Ja sold 3 mill, Irv would be like "What can I say, the fans love it, Ja is the man"
But it flopped miserably, it sold 250K, and Irv says: "Oh yeah, the hood loved it, Ja is deep in the streets"
The album could have sold 5 UNITS, and Irv would still have a positive exciting outlook on it.
For an album that came out rather quietly with not TOO MUCH promotion, video or radio play, it did alright. His numbers were usually higher because he aimed at a different audience, don't you understand that? This album wasn't made to be platinum, it was made for the streets. That's why every song is on some street shit. It's plain and simple.
If you can't see the comedy.. I won't point it any more out.
Same would have been for 50, if "Get rich or die trying" sold 250K, and 50/Dre said: "The streets loved it, that's who we made it for", I would still be laughing.
You just trying to turn this into a dickrider/hater situation like always.
If 50 didn't have songs like "21 Questions" or "In Da Club" the album wouldn't have done good. If "Many Men" was released as the first single, it probably would've never picked up sales. Why? Becuase that's a song aimed at the streets, not the teenie boppers. So, if that was how 50 made his album, I could see how he would say it's for the streets.
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BTW, M.Dogg, chill on that foo. He don't know. He was trying to wolf on the S.G.V. and can't even get that right.
The S.G.V. is in the Los Angeles County, not San Bernardino County.
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it's all good. I just don't like no outsider coming in talking shit about my home, a place he ain't never been. It's all good though.
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lol hahaha niggaz should only speak if they know man, thats all im sayin...........truth is this is the cd thats made most niose for ja on the streets in a long muthafuckin time and i aint even a fan and i aint really heard the whole joint, but i can tell u one thing straight up, this made much mo noise for rule than his last couple joints put together.....
speakin on ja though, now his sayin he going back to normal............he sayin he gone go back to his usual joints with bare singin n shit on it? lol irv and ja be like two confused niggaz in the game......what they need to make is joints that mix ctreetshit and a hit formula on a joint withou goin pop/singin.............until nigga can do that, nigga aint gonna do nuthin if he tryna sell big and keep his cred, if he got much.......
and 50's album was for street niggaz, listen to the album man, jus cuz there a joint for the bitches on it to in 21 questions, it wernt done a in pop way, its sold loads cuz like i said, it mixed street shit and a hit formula together.....joints like "in da club" aint gon harm niggaz rep, than u got joints like many men and high all the time, str8 street shit imo..........
but speakin on topic, irv and rule sayin he gon be back to himself on new lp dont giv no one any hope........who knows what style he switches to this time, luckily i aint a fan so i wont really giv a fuck unless his 1st single is sick as fuck!
peace
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it's all good. I just don't like no outsider coming in talking shit about my home, a place he ain't never been. It's all good though.
Naww naw naw, I ain't talking shit about anybody homes, I just found it funny:
How come SGV knows that Ja Rule sold 250K to "the streets" and not to some mislead MTV teeny-poppers thinking they bought "I'm real 2" and "Love and happiness" ??
Even if it the album went back to hiphop from r'n'b, it doesn't mean that "the streets" bought it.
Besides, exactly who's buying the album doesn't mean shit, and when Irv Gotti does interviews and says "The streets felt it", it's just comedy to me, because I know Irv wish that it would have went at least platinum, "streets" or not.. ::)
And unless SGV is touring "the streets" of U.S., he doesn't know who bought those 250K albums, bottom line.
I could release a album myself, sell 5 copies, and say "the streets felt it, major success!!"
Same comedy to me, only Ja/Irv is on a bigger scale.
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As long as Ja gets praise from the Streets, it's a success to them. His street cred is back up, that was the point of the album. Not to go platinum, not be all over MTV. That's it was all hardcore Hip Hop. So, really, do you even know what you're talking about? Was Ja pushing major numbers on VVV? Nope. He may have went platinum, but he wasn't doing numbers like he did with his more commercial albums.
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As long as Ja gets praise from the Streets, it's a success to them. His street cred is back up, that was the point of the album. Not to go platinum, not be all over MTV. That's it was all hardcore Hip Hop. So, really, do you even know what you're talking about? Was Ja pushing major numbers on VVV? Nope. He may have went platinum, but he wasn't doing numbers like he did with his more commercial albums.
Ok you got it, the streets loooved the album, whatever.
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Royce: Nordmann? ;D
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^^ Yup ;D
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Fett, vi banker de nordmenn haterne ;)
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When is this coming out?