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Lifestyle => Sports & Entertainment => Topic started by: budsmokeronly on December 18, 2003, 02:35:35 AM
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juss got back from that shit. dope movie, and long as fuck. really good shit tho.
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Haven't seen it as of yet. I'll be going to "Return of the King" the night before Christmas in Belgium (most belgians stay at home then. I hate cinemas full of people) You'll probably think that's gay, AC Grumpy since you seem to believe I'm gay. And no,I haven't dissed you after reading your 'say something about the guy above you'-comment.
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Haven't seen it as of yet. I'll be going to "Return of the King" the night before Christmas in Belgium (most belgians stay at home then. I hate cinemas full of people) You'll probably think that's gay, AC Grumpy since you seem to believe I'm gay. And no,I haven't dissed you after reading your 'say something about the guy above you'-comment.
Go in the morning like me ;D I hate going movies where black ladies talk to movie screen and make all these different noises like they are in church ;D
Can't wait to see the movie.
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the green ghosts sucked ass, not want to argue on that one.
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Too many near make out moments between the damn hobbits for my liking. The movie was still good, just way too much crying and shit.
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just way too much crying and shit.
perfect for most of wcc
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just way too much crying and shit.
perfect for most of wcc
:'( :'( :'(
;D ;D ;D
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just way too much crying and shit.
perfect for most of wcc
LOL, good point.
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man that shit was classic.......i really like the end. plus the climax was very entertaining ( i wonder how i'd reac though if i didn't read the book before hand , ah oh well) I reaaly can't find anything bad to say about this movie.....classic!
it's the new star wars IMO.
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man that shit was classic.......i really like the end. plus the climax was very entertaining ( i wonder how i'd reac though if i didn't read the book before hand , ah oh well) I reaaly can't find anything bad to say about this movie.....classic!
it's the new star wars IMO.
hopefully they won't make 3 more movies in a while though
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man that shit was classic.......i really like the end. plus the climax was very entertaining ( i wonder how i'd reac though if i didn't read the book before hand , ah oh well) I reaaly can't find anything bad to say about this movie.....classic!
it's the new star wars IMO.
hopefully they won't make 3 more movies in a while though
naw they won't ....tolken is long dead. the only thing they can do now is make "the hobbit"
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man that shit was classic.......i really like the end. plus the climax was very entertaining ( i wonder how i'd reac though if i didn't read the book before hand , ah oh well) I reaaly can't find anything bad to say about this movie.....classic!
it's the new star wars IMO.
i agree entirely...the end was sooooo good...with the bowing (i wont say anymore for those who havent seen it but those who have no what im talking about)...that part was really good. and of course the way the whole thing ended in general...it was easily the best of the 3 movies and thats saying a lot because imo all 3 are classics.
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man that shit was classic.......i really like the end. plus the climax was very entertaining ( i wonder how i'd reac though if i didn't read the book before hand , ah oh well) I reaaly can't find anything bad to say about this movie.....classic!
it's the new star wars IMO.
hopefully they won't make 3 more movies in a while though
naw they won't ....tolken is long dead. the only thing they can do now is make "the hobbit"
Exactly.There were some rumours about a movie for The Silmarillion too,but I don't see that one happening....way too complex plus it's more of a history book then a story.
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I didn't understand some parts of it becuase I forgot most of the first and second movie. It was pretty good though.
The only thing it was missing was a bad-ass "Who's your daddy" moment. There was a LITTLE bit of one, when the white wizard galloped out to save that army, and he put his staff up, and this white light came out and these angels went "ahhhhhhhh" LOL and all the demons ran away. That was pretty bad-ass, but there should have been a moment, where say 100 soldiers fell to his sword or something, LOL. I guess the elf taking down that pachederm was pretty impressive.
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I watched a documentary on this last night and I gotta admit it looked dope as fuck but after watching the first film I just thought what a fucking waist of time. A 2002 version of Willow. I was hugly dissapointed with the first film so I never really got into the trilogy.
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^^ I feel ya... I really didn't like the first one, but loved the 2nd. Thats why I got into the movies. Give the 2nd one a chance. 3rd was better than the first also.
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man i dont know what you guys are trippin off....i loved all 3
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I'm not accusing, I'm just saying it happens with me all the time... first, you see the first movie or something, and think "that's kind of dorky" becuase it's all fantasy science fiction stuff. After a while though, the ideas in the movie aren't so strange to you, and after you see everybody else enjoying it, you think 'damn, that might be pretty good'.... pretty soon, you're dying to see what the hype is about, and by the time the second one rolls around, you're excited to have fun watching it. That's kind of how it worked on me, I thought the first one was boring, but then got into it.
I always thought Star Wars was too dorky for me, but then I saw all 3 of them one saturday on T.V., and thought "Damn, that's pretty good".
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^^ That is a good point.
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I watched a documentary on this last night and I gotta admit it looked dope as fuck but after watching the first film I just thought what a fucking waist of time. A 2002 version of Willow. I was hugly dissapointed with the first film so I never really got into the trilogy.
considering that the hobbit and the lord of the rings came out before willow(1970 somethin).....willow is just an 80's version of this.
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I watched a documentary on this last night and I gotta admit it looked dope as fuck but after watching the first film I just thought what a fucking waist of time. A 2002 version of Willow. I was hugly dissapointed with the first film so I never really got into the trilogy.
considering that the hobbit and the lord of the rings came out before willow(1970 somethin).....willow is just an 80's version of this.
Yesss, but when was the Lord of the rings film released??
I know what your saying here but I am talking about the movie, not the book.
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I watched a documentary on this last night and I gotta admit it looked dope as fuck but after watching the first film I just thought what a fucking waist of time. A 2002 version of Willow. I was hugly dissapointed with the first film so I never really got into the trilogy.
considering that the hobbit and the lord of the rings came out before willow(1970 somethin).....willow is just an 80's version of this.
Yesss, but when was the Lord of the rings film released??
I know what your saying here but I am talking about the movie, not the book.
there was actually a hobbit and lord of the rings movie before willow as well.
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I watched a documentary on this last night and I gotta admit it looked dope as fuck but after watching the first film I just thought what a fucking waist of time. A 2002 version of Willow. I was hugly dissapointed with the first film so I never really got into the trilogy.
considering that the hobbit and the lord of the rings came out before willow(1970 somethin).....willow is just an 80's version of this.
Yesss, but when was the Lord of the rings film released??
I know what your saying here but I am talking about the movie, not the book.
there was actually a hobbit and lord of the rings movie before willow as well.
SO the point to these 3 movies was?
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i dunno but i, as well as millions of other people, sure do enjoyed it
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i dunno but i, as well as millions of other people, sure do enjoyed it
and WIllow wasn't....nigga u trippin...lol
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Bez, come on man, just admit you're wrong. The point is, there was another version of the Lord of the Rings out years ago, then Willow came out, now there's a longer better version of the Lord of the Rings out. Neither movie is anything like the other, Willow wasn't ripping anybody off, Lord of the Rings wasn't ripping anybody off. If you don't like the movie, fine, but why do you give a shit if we do?
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fact is (i've never seen the OG lotr) willow was dope...the newer version of lord of the rings was doper...simple as that.
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the og lord of the rings and hobbit movies were animated that's the best reason i can give.
willow was a cool movie, but the lord of the rings is CLASSIC
straight up and down like a totum pole!
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It's Nr. 1 on IMDB! Ripped Godfather off!
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0167260/
9.1 ... when the ranking is refreshed on monday, y'all see!
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Bez, come on man, just admit you're wrong. The point is, there was another version of the Lord of the Rings out years ago, then Willow came out, now there's a longer better version of the Lord of the Rings out. Neither movie is anything like the other, Willow wasn't ripping anybody off, Lord of the Rings wasn't ripping anybody off. If you don't like the movie, fine, but why do you give a shit if we do?
I was never arguing my point so I was never trying to force my opinion on anyone. I just dont like the first lord of the rings movie, reminded me of willow too much. Thats all.
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^^^and i suppose willow was a wizard of oz rip off and he was just a damn munchkin
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the 3rd one was great, i enjoyed all three of them. but the battle scenes in the 3rd were the best.
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^^^and i suppose willow was a wizard of oz rip off and he was just a damn munchkin
Lets not get stupid!
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I will never understand why people like this crap...
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^^^and i suppose willow was a wizard of oz rip off and he was just a damn munchkin
Lets not get stupid!
He's just following your lead.
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I will never understand why people like this crap...
I will never understand why people like you reply if they only got something like this to say.
"You have not..
Please add (only choose one):
a. seen the movies at all."
b. been blessed with a sense for magnificence and/or fantasy."
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It's sure good to see taht the Director has Stuck firmly wiht the ORiginal Script..
The reproduction from the book is almost flawless,
A Good Trilogy.. and a good reproduction
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It's sure good to see taht the Director has Stuck firmly wiht the ORiginal Script..
The reproduction from the book is almost flawless,
Considering how much has been left out or altered,I wouldn't say that.
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I will never understand why people like this crap...
I will never understand why people like you reply if they only got something like this to say.
"You have not..
Please add (only choose one):
a. seen the movies at all."
b. been blessed with a sense for magnificence and/or fantasy."
c. find these movies boring as fuck.
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I agree with everyone who said this movie was great. Me and my family and girlfriend saw it on opening day here Dec26th, and last night we went to a movie marathon that played all 3 straight. 9 hours and 19 minutes, im hearing Souron in my sleep lol
Awesome triology...movies or book
If u like this, some of you should check out the Narnia Chronicles ;)
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Has anybody read the books? Wasn't there a big huge scene, that's considered kind of the pivotal scene of the 2nd book, that was left out? I heard there's a showdown between the white & black wizards, with the white wizard breaking the black wizard's staff, then saying something like "Your staff is broken" while he stands over him victoriously. I thought they were moving that scene to the third film, but apparently it isn't in any of them, or I never saw it.
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Yeah Ive read the 1st two books...
Sauraman actually has more to do in the books, but they cut out all of his scenes in ROTK due to wanting to keep the story finishing on a happy note. In the book apparently he comes back and destroys the Shire, which wouldnt have made a very nice ending lol
There are lots of scenes/characters missing from the book, but to fit everything in would be impossible
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Has anybody read the books? Wasn't there a big huge scene, that's considered kind of the pivotal scene of the 2nd book, that was left out? I heard there's a showdown between the white & black wizards, with the white wizard breaking the black wizard's staff, then saying something like "Your staff is broken" while he stands over him victoriously. I thought they were moving that scene to the third film, but apparently it isn't in any of them, or I never saw it.
AS far as I kno.. there were no BLACK wizards...
There was a Brownie - Radagast
a Whitie - Saruman-- who then went on to becom colorless
and a Grey one - Gandalf-- Who went on to becom white
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Has anybody read the books? Yes
Wasn't there a big huge scene, that's considered kind of the pivotal scene of the 2nd book, that was left out? I heard there's a showdown between the white & black wizards, with the white wizard breaking the black wizard's staff, then saying something like "Your staff is broken" while he stands over him victoriously.
it's the confrontation between the fallen Saruman and the now-white Gandalf. After Helm's Deep,Gandalf and the others ride to Isengard to talk to the imprisoned Saruman. In this,he tries to convince them that he should be freed and Gandalf has wrong plans with them but as the reincarnated Gandalf the White has been given much more of his natural wisdom and power then he had as Gandalf the Grey Saruman doesn't succeed in that. Gandalf who's now the leader of the Istari (Wizards) breaks Sarumans staff and casts him out of the order.
I thought they were moving that scene to the third film, but apparently it isn't in any of them, or I never saw it.
It was supposed to be in, but got left out....wich is a very bad thing IMO,I really looked forward to it. Christopher Lee (the actor for Saruman) apparently thought the same as he tried to boycot the version that made the theatres.
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[quote author=Eidolon_Sun link=board=2;threadid=45487;start=25#msg516776 date=1072694422
AS far as I kno.. there were no BLACK wizards...
There was a Brownie - Radagast
a Whitie - Saruman-- who then went on to becom colorless
and a Grey one - Gandalf-- Who went on to becom white
No there weren't any black ones.
The order of the Istari (Wizards) comprised of 5 'missionaries' (themselves representing angels or demi-gods,being Maiar) from the Gods of the West (the Valar) to help and train the free people to contest and eventually defeat Sauron,should he come back. Sauron was also a Maia but he had fallen to evil long since. The Istari didn't use their own names in Middle-Earth but accepted those that were given to them.The members were:
Cúrumo- the leader,and the white Wizard-----called Saruman or Cúrúnir in ME.Became evil as Saruman 'of Many colours' wearing white clothes of broken colors,eventually slain.
Olórin-The Grey-----called Gandalf in the North,Mithrandir in Elvish languages,Incánus in the South and Tarkun by the Dwarves.Became the second leader of the order.Succeeded in his mission.Returned to Valinor at the end of LotR.
Aiwendil - The Brown Wizard,more or less neglected his mission becoming a friend of birds and beasts. Called Radagast in ME. Might have returned to Valinor though.
Alatar & Pallando- The Blue Wizards,they went into the far East of ME and nothing more is told of them. Tolkien indicates they might have failed,but that isn't certain.
Hope that helps. For further information, www.glyphweb.com/arda or www.barrowdowns.com might be a good choice.
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Welp, I think I've found a movie too complicated for me, lol. I didn't even realize the white wizard used to be grey, like I said I forgot a lot of the first two movies. Now that you mention it, I think he was grey before he fell down the hole, lol.
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Well,most of this doesn't come from the movies (wich are an unreliable source) or even from LotR itself,but from other,mostly secondary writings by the good professor like "The Silmarillion","Unfinished Tales" or "History of Middle-Earth." Us Tolkinites can get into heavy discussion about certain matters like for example the function of the Wizard's staff, Balrog wings or 'wings' or the literal meaning of a certain passage. I post at the forum of www.barrowdowns.com......can be found there as Noxomanus.
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I guess it just takes a while to get a good understanding of the characters involved, like Star Wars.
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I guess it just takes a while to get a good understanding of the characters involved, like Star Wars.
True,especially for the movies.
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Now that u come to talk of Silimarillion.. I remenmber that Christopher tolkien had compiled teh history of ME into a coherent 12 book affair..
But tell me sumthing.. Mr Morgoth.. if I remmeber rite he was the first evil to plague the ME during the first age...
What is the relationship between the Numenoreans and the Valar and why did the VAlars drown the Numenor??
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also did gimli really sail Fron the Grey havens along with Legolas i the end???
And what happens to Aragorn's love interest the elf lady... Arawen?? Does she die in Rivendell??
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ive seen all 3 movies and enjoyed them all but this topic has left me a bit confused lol. best trilogy ever though
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Now that u come to talk of Silimarillion.. I remenmber that Christopher tolkien had compiled teh history of ME into a coherent 12 book affair..
But tell me sumthing.. Mr Morgoth.. if I remmeber rite he was the first evil to plague the ME during the first age...
What is the relationship between the Numenoreans and the Valar and why did the VAlars drown the Numenor??
Yeah Morgoth (originally Melkor) is the prime evil of ME. He brought evil into the world but was after many crimes and terrible deeds (Too many to mention, but believe me....he was a very naughty boy) he was beaten by an army send by the Valar,and their comrades in ME. After that,Morgoth was thrown into the endless,inescapable Void by the Valar.
The Numenoreans were the descendants from the men who had helped the Valar defeat Morgoth (Melkor),the fallen Vala and master of fallen Maiar like Sauron.(Maiar are angelic servants of particular Valar) They were granted their own island realm and a great lifespan. They envied the Valar however for their immortality. In time they grew into the greatest mariners ever to live and also made war on Sauron in ME. Eventually they even captured Sauron as he surrendered to their massive army but this wasn't a good thing to do as using the Numenoreans' lust for immortality and knowledge Sauron went to influence and eventually corrupt them. This was up to the point they went to make war on the Valar themselves,believing they could get immortality from them. When the King,Ar-Pharazon, had gathered the greatest fleet ever, to sail on Valinor,Eru (God) intervened and destroyed Numenor and it's folk.It weren't the Valar who did this. Few managed to survive to flee to ME but they founded the twin-kingdoms of Gondor and Arnor. The history itself and that of the Kingdoms is huge so I'll leave that alone but I can say that Aragorn eventually became their first shared King in some 2000 years or so and is thus named King of the Reunited Kingdom.
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also did gimli really sail Fron the Grey havens along with Legolas i the end???
And what happens to Aragorn's love interest the elf lady... Arawen?? Does she die in Rivendell??
Gimli probably did as the only Dwarf to do so,supposedly because he so desired to see Galadriel (who he revered) again.Also,because of the great things he did in the downthrowing of Sauron he was rewarded.They didn't sail from the Grey Havens,wich might have been deserted then but sailed up the river and eventually to Valinor from Ithilien (where Frodo,Sam and Gollum came upon Faramir & co) Legolas had apparently build this ship himself.
Arwen married Aragorn and came to live in Minas Tirith where she died,though I'm not sure of that. Her brothers, Elrohir and Elros lived sometime in Rivendell after their father left,but eventually seem to have sailed to Valinor.....possibly on the same ship as Galadriels husbaund,Celeborn,who had lived in Rivendell for some time too.
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Apparently Christopher Lee refused to turn up to the premier of Return of the King, due to his scenes being axed.
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Apparently Christopher Lee refused to turn up to the premier of Return of the King, due to his scenes being axed.
That's true and the movie would certainly have improved if that part had been in.
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Anyone else got questions ;D........I'll see if I can answer them.
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ya I'd think ive been fucked too if I am acting in the biggest movie ever and most of my scenes, containing a whole storyline itself, have been cut out, lol. it's understandable.
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i jus seen the cut today with some my bredjwinz and i gotta say, the endin was wack............it was good in the way it was done and shit, but i kinda dragged imo..........corny shit to, niggaz could have cutted it shorter, wat to long imo......def a good a dope film jus like the endin went on n on n on n on
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It was the way it had to end but yes,the Grey Havens could have been muuuuuch shorter. Even I,probably the biggest fan of this on this board thought it was kinda dragging.
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^peter jackson said this week that they'll probably include the sauroman scenes in the box dvd set.....i'm guessing it's going to be like the other sets where it's extended scenes and added shit. also the box is either going to be royal blue or purple.
oh yeah and if new line secures the rights to the hobbit , he's down for making that after king kong.
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^peter jackson said this week that they'll probably include the sauroman scenes in the box dvd set.....i'm guessing it's going to be like the other sets where it's extended scenes and added shit. also the box is either going to be royal blue or purple.
oh yeah and if new line secures the rights to the hobbit , he's down for making that after king kong.
Good news.
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Still havent seen this one :(
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I advise you to do,if you're dissappointed you're experiencing the impossible.
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I guess the elf taking down that pachederm was pretty impressive.
That was off the hook.. i was with some friends when i saw it and all of us had jaws dropped.. like daaaaaaaaaamn
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^ that scene was awesome and all...but what had me was that legolas and gimli were STILL counting how many people they were killing ,lol.
legolas: 35, 36, [kills elephant]
gimli: THAT STILL ONLY COUNTS AS ONE!!!!!!
LMAO