West Coast Connection Forum
DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: SGV on January 03, 2004, 11:55:53 AM
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Kadafi was hard, Fatal always came with it, Noble is tight as hell, so is Nap. E.D.I. is weak to some, but to me he was always on point. Only one I never cared for was Kastro. But, I've pretty much liked everything Outlawz have done. They get a little too much hate if you ask me. I think if Fatal and Nap went back to make another Outlawz album, that'd be real dope. Get the right production, they could probably do it big.
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Yeah I agree with that.
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Although I'm a huge fan of the Lawz', the only ones I'm really feelin' on the lyrical tip were Fatal, Big Syke, and Khadafi.
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Yeah I agree with that.
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"and if the world was a girl I'd stick my dick in the ground: FUCK THE WORLD!!"
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i always liked the outlawz...and fatal's solo album was a damn good album.
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i always liked the outlawz...and fatal's solo album was a damn good album.
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Never heard fatal's solo, I do like the Outlawz as a group actually, only they've been puttin out a lot of mediocre stuff since Pac's death and rarely seem to live up to their full potential. But there's sum good shit which proves they're actually a tight group
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i always liked the outlawz...and fatal's solo album was a damn good album.
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Jomo why did U move this
Outlawz aint West Coast SGV Was right to put it in Outbound
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Jomo why did U move this
Outlawz aint West Coast SGV Was right to put it in Outbound
If The Outlawz aren't West Coast, then Xzibit isn't West Coast either.
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Did I say anything about Xzibit
Shut it ya dirty wrongon
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Did I say anything about Xzibit
Shut it ya dirty wrongon
What? What's wrong with my comparison?
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Outlawz ARE West Coast.
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Outlawz are a tight group. Just doesnt seem right with only 3 members. I hate to see that Pac was the only real reason for them being together cuz they could totally create their own sound and come out successful, post-Pac.
Few Of My Favs.
Bout Ours (beats so sick)
Aint Your Average (Great to have in CDQ. Always loved this song. The Hi Hats get me on this one)
Jack Move (Yall know about this)
Hennessy And Weed (Piano.. lyrics.. tight)
Breakin The Rules (Hella heart felt)
Thrill Me (New Child, another heart felt track over Nore's Blood Money beat)
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I'd consider Outlawz West Coast. Even though they're not all from here, that's the type of rap they make.
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outlawz arent west coast rappers, just affiliated with a lot of them. sorta like tech n9ne. xzibit actually reps the west, whereas outlawz dont
my fav outlaw was noble just cuz he had such a dope voice combined with the lyrics, but khadafi and fatal were good too. i hope that upcoming collab album with btnh will be hot (even tho chances are that it wont be)
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Dumb ass Jomo. Outlawz are from Jersey. Nap is living in L.A. now, but that doesn't warrant this to be in here. Fuck it. I'm gonna start posting all West Coast affiliated people in here.
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Actualyy, the Lawz have repped the West several times in they songs.
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I've seen Tha Lawz live. They said: "Ya'll know we're from Jersey, we rep the East, but we got love for the West." They've always repped Jersey. Unless Jersey has MAGICALLY jumped across the country, they're East Coast.
I think I'm gonna start posting about Daz in Outbound. He lives in Atlanta and is on So So Def. He's a South rapper now.
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Damn SGV, how wack is to call some1 a dumb ass just cause he wrote something different than you? Expecially if it's somehow true. Stop bitching, and open your eyes! OutlawRecordz is located in Tarzana, California. They got a big Outlawz Store there. Plus the webmaster of the official site is from L.A., so the Head Quarter is there. Everyone lives in his own city, and it's not true they all live in Jersey (for example Kastro & EDI lives in Atlanta, Napoleon still lives in Cali, Noble has a house in L.A., etc..), but, like you said about Daz, the place where you live now doesnt mean a thing. They have repped the West a couple of times, they got the HQ in Cali, they lived in Cali, and some of them still lives in Cali, they CAN be considered West Coast artists JUST like they can be considered East Coast artists (cause they repp East Coast too). So relax. We're talking about their skills, here. Let's not beef over something which is not important to judge their skills.
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What did Jome write? Jesus!
So, let's see, if I rep Atlanta, I can be considered South? LOL. Man, they're East Coast. It don't make a difference where you live. Yukmouth lives in L.A., he's still a Bay rapper. C-Bo talks about Sunset Blvd a lot since he lives in L.A., but he's still a Sacramento rapper. Ain't nobody beefing.
I never once said they all live in Jersey, let's get that straight, too.
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So, let's see, if I rep Atlanta, I can be considered South? LOL. Man, they're East Coast. It don't make a difference where you live.
So it doesnt matter what you rep, it doesnt matter where your HQ is, it doesnt matter where you live. The simple question is: why the Lawz are East Coast? Cause they're born there? (NO. Cause Pac was born there too, but we consider him West Coast). Cause they did a mixtape with a group called Jerzey MOB? (NO. Cause Noble did an album with JT too, and they have done tons of collaborations with WC artists). Cause Fatal (who is not an official Outlaw) or NuChild lives in Jersey? (NO. Cause the others lives in Cali too, at least they got home there, too).
Let's just say, since they've repped WC for a big part of their lifes, and since they still rep West Coast in their songs/videos, that it's not "a scandal" to put them here, in the WC section of the forum.
Do you consider Pac a NY rapper? (cause he was born there)
Do you consider Pac a Bay Area rapper? (cause he grew up there)
Do you consider Pac a L.A. rapper? (cause Death Row is in L.A.)
Do you consider Pac a ATL rapper? (cause Afeni's HQ is there)
Simply we can discuss about Pac here, cause he has repped the WC. I think that's the thing we has to consider.
Plus they're born musically in the West. If they repp Jersey, it's cause they from there. But musically they are WC. Just like Pac was Bay Area.
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So it doesnt matter what you rep, it doesnt matter where your HQ is, it doesnt matter where you live. The simple question is: why the Lawz are East Coast? Cause they're born there? (NO. Cause Pac was born there too, but we consider him West Coast). Cause they did a mixtape with a group called Jerzey MOB? (NO. Cause Noble did an album with JT too, and they have done tons of collaborations with WC artists). Cause Fatal (who is not an official Outlaw) or NuChild lives in Jersey? (NO. Cause the others lives in Cali too, at least they got home there, too). Let's just say, since they've repped WC for a big part of their lifes, and since they still rep West Coast in their songs/videos, that it's not "a scandal" to put them here, in the WC section of the forum.
Because of this: "I'm from N-E-W Jerz where plenty murders occurs." They're from Jersey point blank period. They've said it themselves.
Do you consider Pac a NY rapper? (cause he was born there)
Do you consider Pac a Bay Area rapper? (cause he grew up there)
Do you consider Pac a L.A. rapper? (cause Death Row is in L.A.)
Do you consider Pac a ATL rapper? (cause Afeni's HQ is there)
Simply we can discuss about Pac here, cause he has repped the WC. I think that's the thing we has to consider.
Pac was a rapper from all over. He was MC New York, he was a Bay rapper, he was an L.A. rapper. You classify him as you want. I'd consider him West Coast for the simple fact that he made songs like "To Live & Die In L.A." I haven't heard Outlawz make a track like that.
Daz in Outbonds? Why? Isnt he still repping WC/LBC? Snoop was been a No Limit Solder. Wasnt he still a WC artist?
Oh but his head quarters is now in Atlanta. So, since Outlawz HQ is here, and they're considered West, wouldn't Daz be considered South because his HQ is now in Atlanta?
LOL, anyway we're going too far. Simply, IMO, they CAN be considered West Coast.
If Outlawz are considered West Coast, then Bone is, TechN9ne is, Treach is, 50 Cent is, and so on.
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Biography of the Outlawz from allmusic.com
West Coast rappers Outlawz are known primarily for their affiliation with 2Pac. It was on 2Pac's Makaveli album that Outlawz first came to the greater rap community's notice, appearing on a few songs. In 1999 they were co-billed on the posthumous 2Pac album Still I Rise, granting them even more recognition and furthering their short-lived affiliation. It wasn't until late 2000, though, that they finally got the go-ahead to release their debut album, Ride Wit Us or Collide Wit Us. Featuring a cover that placed 2Pac's image in the foreground, along with numerous references to the deceased legend, this debut made the most of Outlawz' reputation for being 2Pac's supposed protégés. Unfortunately, the album didn't prove to be much of a success, and neither did the group's follow-up album a year later, Novakane, also released on the group's Outlaw Recordz label (distributed by Koch). While the group no doubt retained 2Pac's West Coast thug/gangsta style, they unfortunately were fairly average rappers in terms of skills and too often fell back on their 2Pac affiliation and far too often descended into generic thug motifs. And it didn't help that they weren't aligned with any of the West Coast's better producers. In fact, Outlawz weren't really aligned with anyone on the West Coast — not Snoop Dogg and his Dogghouse clique, nor the Bay Area scene centered around E-40 and Spice 1. Ultimately, the group never lived up to the expectations they heaped upon themselves by forever comparing themselves to 2Pac.
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Oh man, anyway this shit is getting boring. That's why it aint a scandal to talk about the Lawz in a WC forum.
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etc etc etc..
Peace.
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LoL.. dickheads.. I knew this topic was created to start beef..
Good looking, Antonio.. ;D
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Kadafi was hard, Fatal always came with it, Noble is tight as hell, so is Nap. E.D.I. is weak to some, but to me he was always on point. Only one I never cared for was Kastro. But, I've pretty much liked everything Outlawz have done. They get a little too much hate if you ask me. I think if Fatal and Nap went back to make another Outlawz album, that'd be real dope. Get the right production, they could probably do it big.
ya outlawz are coo
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Great pictures of them throwing up Ws. Mauzip has a picture throwing up a dub, is he West Coast? Baby from Cash Money and Lil Weezy throw up dubs, are they West Coast?
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And, wait a second. How was I trying to start beef with this thread? Everything was FINE before you moved it like an idiot. I swear, even when I give props I end up being a hater or something.
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Oh c'mon now, man. Who the fuck really cares if they 51% East and 49% West, or viceversa. You made this topic to give them props? So give them props! Outlawz as a group are E.D.I., Kastro and Noble. They all live in Cali, they rep Cali, they work with Cali rappers and producers, their HQ is in Cali, their biggest fanbase is in Cali, they're universally known as "West Coast rappers" (just check the bio is circulating on the net about them, i've quoted it), their leader (2Pac) was probably the rapper who repped the most the West Coast, they were a part of the West vs East coast rivalry (ok, it was against Bad Boy, we all know that, but still..).. isnt it enought to talk about them here? Other than that.. WHO THE FUCK CARES!! For real. It's not a scandal. Point.
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Somebody should sue Jome for moving this.. biggest scandal since Watergate. ::)
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Everything was fine until Jome moved this. They're East Coast. You proved nothing to me that makes them West Coast. Every post I make about them will be in Outbound, where it belongs.
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its where u rep, not where u live. too $hort lives in the south and chills with every southern rapper, but he still reps the west wholeheartedly. until outlawz stop repping jersey, theyre not exactly west coast rappers. i can see why you would consider them west coast tho
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Everyone knows the Lawz are from Jersey, but the fact is that they've been reppin' the West since they were with Pac. If they say things such as "Westcoast 'til I die", and throw up the DUB repeatedly, they obviously rep the West. Just like how Pac is originally from NY but is arguably the biggest Westcoast repper ever. And how X is from Detroit but has repped the Westcoast heavily since the mid-nineties. I still consider the Outlawz a Westcoast rap group.
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its not the same with x and pac. pac and x never boasted about being from ny and new mexico.
lets take this into a bigger comparison. cleveland's bone thugs started their careers with a westcoast label, collaborated with many of the west's biggest stars, shouted "WESTSIDE" in numerous songs including the one with WC, made a mix called "cleveland to la", and according to pac were supposed to be on the westcoast squad for the thug nation compilation. but at the same time, they still rep their hometown of cleveland. which is why nobody considers them west coast rappers.
tha alkaholiks, who are also cleveland rappers, basically followed the same route as bone thugs starting his career in la. the difference is, tha liks not once represented cleveland ohio in any of their songs. thats why they are considered cali rappers, whereas bone thugs are not.
same goes for people like tech n9ne. hes thrown up the 'W' in many pics with yukmouth and lynch hung, but still reps kansas city. he basically falls in the same category as bone thugs, outlawz, and hell even roscoe.
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The thing you dont wanna admit is that the Lawz has started their musically career repping WC. Just like Kurupt has started his career repping LBC. Just like X has started his career repping L.A., just like Alkaholics started their career repping WC. Just like Pac started his musically career repping Bay Area. Outlawz started their career with Pac. Repping WC. Throwing up Ws (never Es). Show me a single track where they've repped Jersey till Pac died. From 1994 to 1996. There are no tracks, man, where they rep Jersey. They were West Coast rappers, rapping in West Coast style, over West Coast beats, with West Coast rappers. From 1996 to 1999, they still were trapped on Death Row, and they still repped the WC. In 1999, they went indi, and from that moment they started to rep not only WC (some of the pics i showed you are from 1999 to 2003), but also Jersey. World Wide (they have a track called like that!). Thugs from every states, etc.. They say they are from Jersey, they rep Jersey too, but they never stopped throwin up the Ws, and working in L.A. with Cali rappers. Krayzie Mofo Guy have you seen them repping only Jersey and never Ws? Cause if you did, i didnt. Those guys are still throwing up Ws, working in L.A., repping Outlawz worlwide and Pac. You are making it like they Mobb Deep! C'mon now.
Could you honestly compare them to Alkaholics or Xzibit? Are we joking?
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its not the same with x and pac. pac and x never boasted about being from ny and new mexico.
Pac never boasted about being from NY?
Oh, and anyway.. what's the real difference between Pac and the Lawz?
Please explain it to me. Cause from 1994 to 1996 the Outlawz and Pac were basically the same thing, repping the same things, doing the same songs, helping each others writing their songs, etc.
So you cant consider Pac WC and the Lawz EC. They were the same thing, from 1994 to 1996. To 1999, i'd say.
And now the Lawz aint repping Jersey MORE than what they're repping WC.
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You all are thinking too much about that Jersey MOB mixtape. It was OUTLAWZ ft. Jersey MOB! Not OUTLAWZ aka Jersey MOB! It was organized from HUSSEIN FATAL, who is 100% from Jersey, living in Jersey, repping Jersey, working with Jersey rappers. Who invited the Lawz to make a collaboration Mixtape.
90% of the Lawz fans are from WC/PAC fans. Not EC/Jersey fans. Plus the Lawz DONT rep Jersey in that Mixtape. THEY NEVER DID.
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Great pictures of them throwing up Ws. Mauzip has a picture throwing up a dub, is he West Coast? Baby from Cash Money and Lil Weezy throw up dubs, are they West Coast?
Yes, I am West Coast!
(http://www.eazy-e.net/upload/uploads/alkmaariswestcoastdamnit.JPG)
I put a circle around the city I live in!
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Antonio, never heard "Hit Em Up"?
They repped Jerz there. So, go back to the drawing board.
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Antonio, never heard "Hit Em Up"?
They repped Jerz there. So, go back to the drawing board.
Plus 'Bomb First':
"I'm from Jerz; we don't play that shit / From the Claire down to North Bricks..."
- Noble
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And to clarify, the Dub does NOT mean West Coast. It means Westside. So, they rep the Westside, not West Coast. Sorry, but it's the truth. Just because someone toss a W up, that does not mean they're claiming to be West Coast, just means they're repping the Westside. The Pacific states are not the Westside, they're the West Coast.
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And to clarify, the Dub does NOT mean West Coast. It means Westside. So, they rep the Westside, not West Coast. Sorry, but it's the truth. Just because someone toss a W up, that does not mean they're claiming to be West Coast, just means they're repping the Westside. The Pacific states are not the Westside, they're the West Coast.
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Man Outlawz repped Jersey in Hit Em Up cause they were dissing New Jersey and New York rappers. They basically said "i'm real, i'm from there, i'm a real thug. You a fake!". They didnt make a Jersey Love song. They just exposed Jersey rappers. Like when Pac gave love to NY, it was cause he was born there, cause he had love for the city, and he gave love to the city to diss the rappers in NY. It's normal that they say "I'm from N-E-W Jerz", or stuff like that. They are! The question is: is their music West Coast or East Coast? Cause it doesnt matter if they say "I'm born in Jersey"... If you think they made East Coast music, then ok. If you think they made East Coast music, then let's move them in the Outbond. The thing i'm repeating is that it's not a scandal to talk about them here. But since it is for you, let's move this topic!
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Aiight fellaz... I make it really, really simple...
FUCK A COAST/REGION
the important thing is: THE STYLE
got it?
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Cristalline! ;)
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can someone plz update me on the bone/outlawz album, havnt heard much about it for a while ?