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DUBCC - Tha Connection => Outbound Connection => Topic started by: NobodyButMe on January 08, 2004, 11:42:21 AM
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i'm so sick of hearing people talk about how great this album is. in my opinion, it's by far their worst effort. there are maybe 3 songs on speakerboxx worth listening to and only about 4 or 5 on the love below. out of 30-something tracks there are only about 10 worth listening to, at most. and all these critics and people talking about "it's the album of the year." bullshit. i'm not impressed with it at all. they should do joint projects again - enough of this solo shit....anyone else agree?
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def one of their worst efforts, your right, there was like 30 tracks, and like 15 good-ok ones,
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I kinda agree and disagree ;D
I'm sure Big Boi and Dre both knew when they released it that this album (these albums?) would split the hip-hop community like no other. To some extent they must have made it to be different.
It's almost a record you have to either love or hate. This is not an album you can 'not mind' about ;) But it's also an album that's difficult to convince someone to love if they say they hate it. It's just too fucking out-there.
Personally I love it. I think it's one of the best records I've bought this year. But I can sympathise entirely with others who paid their hard-earned cash for it and were left thinking 'wtf?' ;)
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well i personally felt Speakerboxxx and i know everyone was saying Love Below was crazy and ish but im just not feelin it, where as speakerboxxx, that shit is dope as fuck
Speakerboxxx > Love Below
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I don't agree, "Speakerboxx" was a great rap record and "TLB" was on sum other shit, but mostly pretty creative. But it's like Lord Funk said, it's the love it or hate it type album and even tho I personally luved it i do hope theyll get together again and make an actual Outkast album and not two solo records
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definitely outkast's worst cd ever
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i guess what bothered me about "tlb" is that everything seems so simple on it. i mean, that guitar riff on "hey ya" and the drums are pathetically childish, yet, it's the "single of the year."
plus, his lyrics ruin half the songs for me: like "i know you like to think yo shit don't stink/....roses really smell like poo poo" - c'mon, that's just stupid. who wants to hear about roses smelling like poo poo? and "happy valentines day"? weak. everyone says how "deep" and "genius" tlb is, yet it's so simple and retarded that people think it's artistic.....i'm just not feelin the corny stuff i guess
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i guess what bothered me about "tlb" is that everything seems so simple on it. i mean, that guitar riff on "hey ya" and the drums are pathetically childish, yet, it's the "single of the year."
plus, his lyrics ruin half the songs for me: like "i know you like to think yo shit don't stink/....roses really smell like poo poo" - c'mon, that's just stupid. who wants to hear about roses smelling like poo poo? and "happy valentines day"? weak. everyone says how "deep" and "genius" tlb is, yet it's so simple and retarded that people think it's artistic.....i'm just not feelin the corny stuff i guess
I don't think it's genius. Hell, it ain't that deep. But it's different, it's creative, it's honest. It's definately artistic, but fuck it, so is Big Boi's disc.
In XXL Jay-Z said: "Dre's CD is his truth. You can feel it." He's right. Dude just did what he felt like doing. Even if the CD makes you feel sick to your stomach to listen to, you can't knock the man for having the balls to make it. You could count the major label hip-hop acts willing to make such a brave move on one fucking hand.
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yeah i dont know what all the fuss is about they got a few cool tracks but this was always my argument that for a double cd to only have like 5 or so tracks that are tight is not verry good...i just dont see how this cd is so big
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Big Boi's album was NOT good. He should've took more time on it. It sounded forced.
Dre's album was wonderful. I don't skip one track on it. You have to like music to like that. You have to have an open mind. Dre's disc was enough to make both albums one of the best of the year.
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i guess what bothered me about "tlb" is that everything seems so simple on it. i mean, that guitar riff on "hey ya" and the drums are pathetically childish, yet, it's the "single of the year."
plus, his lyrics ruin half the songs for me: like "i know you like to think yo shit don't stink/....roses really smell like poo poo" - c'mon, that's just stupid. who wants to hear about roses smelling like poo poo? and "happy valentines day"? weak. everyone says how "deep" and "genius" tlb is, yet it's so simple and retarded that people think it's artistic.....i'm just not feelin the corny stuff i guess
I don't think it's genius. Hell, it ain't that deep. But it's different, it's creative, it's honest. It's definately artistic, but fuck it, so is Big Boi's disc.
In XXL Jay-Z said: "Dre's CD is his truth. You can feel it." He's right. Dude just did what he felt like doing. Even if the CD makes you feel sick to your stomach to listen to, you can't knock the man for having the balls to make it. You could count the major label hip-hop acts willing to make such a brave move on one fucking hand.
i wouldn't say he had 'the balls to make it' - he knew damn well that if he said three words on the whole album, people were gonna buy it no matter what. he didn't have to do shit, didn't have to put in any effort for this album whatsoever because people were gonna eat it up. if i could make a record and know damn well i was gonna get paid for it no matter what i said, i don't think i woulda put that much effor into it, and maybe i'd say some real simple stuff, and some real silly metaphors and people would think it's profound and artistic and genius and (all the other adjectives they use to describe tlb). i don't think it's what people make it out to be, you know? i don't think it's him, and i don't think it's really artistic. maybe he just wanted to see how far he could go before people started saying 'wait a minute, i've heard kindergarten kids say more profound stuff than this' or 'i've heard children play better music than this.'
i love music. all music. i've got probably one of the most eclectic album collections out of anyone i know. i listen to everything. i'm not saying that i don't still listen to this disc. there are some tracks on there that i do love, and i listen to them. i'm just saying i think it's their worst record, and they should have worked together on it.
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Prolly IMO one of the best albums of the year if not THE best.
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Prolly IMO one of the best albums of the year if not THE best.
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i loved "a life in the day of benjamin andre", that shit was nice, he should have rapped a little more on the love below
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i agree with SGV on this. If you don't like music in general, you wont like TLB
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Big Boi's album was NOT good. He should've took more time on it. It sounded forced.
Dre's album was wonderful. I don't skip one track on it. You have to like music to like that. You have to have an open mind. Dre's disc was enough to make both albums one of the best of the year.
i agree
big bois album was ok...but there is no difference to any other outkast/Killer mike cds
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I agree, album was horrible. Just because you CAN do something doesn't mean you should, lol. And Just because your shit sounds different, doesn't mean it's good. Just because you have some half-ass attempt at aconcept album, doesn't mean it's a masterpiece. If you compare this shit to the things like this people have tried in the past, it's unbelievably shallow and sounds like shit.
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i wouldn't say he had 'the balls to make it' - he knew damn well that if he said three words on the whole album, people were gonna buy it no matter what. he didn't have to do shit, didn't have to put in any effort for this album whatsoever because people were gonna eat it up. if i could make a record and know damn well i was gonna get paid for it no matter what i said, i don't think i woulda put that much effor into it, and maybe i'd say some real simple stuff, and some real silly metaphors and people would think it's profound and artistic and genius and (all the other adjectives they use to describe tlb). i don't think it's what people make it out to be, you know? i don't think it's him, and i don't think it's really artistic. maybe he just wanted to see how far he could go before people started saying 'wait a minute, i've heard kindergarten kids say more profound stuff than this' or 'i've heard children play better music than this.'
i love music. all music. i've got probably one of the most eclectic album collections out of anyone i know. i listen to everything. i'm not saying that i don't still listen to this disc. there are some tracks on there that i do love, and i listen to them. i'm just saying i think it's their worst record, and they should have worked together on it.
Oh shit, somebody else finally agrees with me. You're exactly, 100% right. Nothing he did was groundbreaking, it was just him making whatever the fuck fell out of his mouth, and then calling it art. I can record myself sleeping, and then overdub an orchestra playing Beethoven's 5th, it wouldn't be genius. If I was Andre, though, everybody would be saying "OH MY GOD, I CANT BELIEVE HE DID THIS!!! ALBUM OF THE YEAR!!!! ALBUM OF THE YEAR!!!" The truth is, like I said, if you compare his 'concept' album to other concept albums that have came out in the past, his shit is NOTHING. And all the shit about "OH MY GOD, ITS SO DEEP!!!" Bullshit. "Music is a woman" . Haven't heard that one before. Please.
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Oh my god this is so funny...I was just about to make this same exact thread....I think it is a horrible CD...Thanks...
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Shitty album...both CDs sucked IMO.
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I didn't like it, but then again I'm not an Outkast fan. Only trac I actually felt was "Hey Ya".
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Speakerboxx was aight, had a few good tracks.
Love Below was my favorite album of 2003. Not tryna disrespect anybodys opinion but I thought the album was incredibly creative, original, introspective, all the shit music should be. In a time where music is so stagnant and generic, this was a real shot in the arm, or ear.
I can understand that its not traditonal Outkast (whatever you think that is), or that it's just too out-there for some people, but to be honest its not even that weird, just weird for a rapper. If Prince put out this album everyone would be like yea okay whatever. I think you have to respect Andre just for doing something so personal. I really dont buy that he just did it 'because he could'. Outkast always seemed like some real musicians to me, not some money-hungry media whores.
MY Album Of The Year :)
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Trauma, Love Below IS original. In Hip Hop, how many people have made an album like this? Not many, if any at all. Yes, concept albums have been made in Hip Hop, but never with all these styles mixed into one. And, don't try to label me as an Andre dickrider, which you're trying to do to everyone indirectly. I haven't liked Dre since Southernplayalistic, so for me to give him props is major. The album was great.
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I feel like killing Trauma.
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I listened to some of the songs on this double lp and dont know what the fuss is all about. Ill give it another listen.
I see this album is gonna win big awards, white critics over the age of 30 are loving it, saying its creative unlike the rest of hip hop and Outkast have more less abandoned hip hop for the better, artists are gonna start to leave hip hop and start doing rock music like Outkast blah blah blah... We know what happened to Cypress Hill when they went all out rock, even they are returning back to hip hop.
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Trauma, Love Below IS original. In Hip Hop, how many people have made an album like this? Not many, if any at all. Yes, concept albums have been made in Hip Hop, but never with all these styles mixed into one. And, don't try to label me as an Andre dickrider, which you're trying to do to everyone indirectly. I haven't liked Dre since Southernplayalistic, so for me to give him props is major. The album was great.
sorry, but i'm gonna go with trauma on this one - in hip hop, it IS somewhat original, or different, whatever you want to say. but in relation to ALL music, this album is nothing more than another elvis costello release or a quentin tarantino soundtrack. or another prince release. andre doesn't even consider himself a HIP HOP ARTIST anymore - read the recent (last few months) source, xxl, and vibe interviews.
i think what i was trying to say is that
in order for hip hop to be taken seriously by the rest of the adults and grown-ups of our generation, people have to come out with better albums than the love below. i think that dude was correct in saying "the over 30 crowd loves this cd" or something like that. i don't think that this is a good hip hop album, and i really don't think it's a good album, musically speaking. like i said before, any of those guitar riffs or drum beats are rudimentary and can be played by even the simplest beginner.
this has caused quite the debate too, and i appreciate all the opinions. i know that none of us are going to change our minds on this subject, mostly because we all have different preferences...i just happen to think TLB and Speakerboxxx are the worst outkast albums released, period. ;D
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In the end, people can like what they want, but you know what? Chalk it up to personal opinion, don't try to tell us Outkast's album is creative or genius, it ain't shit, lol. I love outkast, but this album is horrible. Like Platinum mentioned, Prince alone shits all over this album, and there's many peole that shit allover Prince.
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"Speakerboxxx" was an average rap-album, nothing that I listened often to again after a few days of bumpin'. And concernin' "The Love Below":
I thought the album was incredibly creative, original, introspective, all the shit music should be...
...but it wasn't the type of music I like though. So I'm one of those people who dislike "The Love Below", but I've no problem to agree that it was one of the most creative albums last year.
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Big Boi's album was NOT good. He should've took more time on it. It sounded forced.
Dre's album was wonderful. I don't skip one track on it. You have to like music to like that. You have to have an open mind. Dre's disc was enough to make both albums one of the best of the year.
I AGREE 151% about every word rite above me...
And 2 tha idiots sayin The Love Below had simple lil guitar riffs etc...please quit speakin outta yo ass...Start actually producin tracks and then U have a right 2 say anything bout how simple it is 2 do shit like that....
and I disagree wit Trauma 2 tha fullest....like he said Chalk it up to personal opinion
exactly....thanx for yur opinion Trauma....but NO!
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i thaught it was amazing and the best album of 2003
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(http://money.cnn.com/2002/10/22/news/companies/mcdonalds/mcdonalds.03.jpg)
Ba dah dah da dahhhhhh.... I'm Lovin' it!
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yeah I can't even get through listening through much of it cause its so crappy
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LMAO i loved that lil mcdonalds commercial in the middle of all this, damn, they really manage to squeeze themselves into everywhere
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Big Boi's album was NOT good. He should've took more time on it. It sounded forced.
Dre's album was wonderful. I don't skip one track on it. You have to like music to like that. You have to have an open mind. Dre's disc was enough to make both albums one of the best of the year.
I AGREE 151% about every word rite above me...
And 2 tha idiots sayin The Love Below had simple lil guitar riffs etc...please quit speakin outta yo ass...Start actually producin tracks and then U have a right 2 say anything bout how simple it is 2 do shit like that....
and I disagree wit Trauma 2 tha fullest....like he said Chalk it up to personal opinion
exactly....thanx for yur opinion Trauma....but NO!
how the hell could you possibly say that i don't produce? what the fuck do you know about me? this was a nice little topic till people gotta start bein internet gangstas and callin people names...just cuz i think it sucks and have my reasons to think it sucks you don't have to start callin people names.