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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: budsmokeronly on January 16, 2004, 01:02:15 PM
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213 LP News
Here's the latest on it...
project has very little chance of dropping...
why?
MONEY
no1 is happy with the pay split...
theres way too much drama surrounding this project...to the extent where many w/o hesitation have said "213 is never gonna drop"...
my opinion:
this album won't drop...
3 dudes with 3 HUGE EGOs...yes, even Warren...these guys are TOO BIG for eachother now...
this album WAS supposed to drop in the next few months...doesn't seem likely at all n e more...Warren and Nate don't even tour with Snoop...Daz, being on So So Def, still tours with Snoop occassionaly..
kronik.
Kronik posted that in their forum. dunno how reliable it is, but I believe it. Supposedly best friends growing up together their whole lives, yet they can't even record an album together these days because money is too big of an issue. Yet they are not sellouts huh?
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I lost all hope for this album when they said "213 coming Dec. 03"....
And I know this shit aint gonna happen now....Im just hoping for a miracle now.
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so why the hype they put up by talking about their so called dream project in every interview, on mtv etc.? nothing but bullshit....they are too big for each other? lol
why dont get bigger by putting that album out?
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i told yall!
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that would be some bigg ass bullshit not releasin this project. damn >:(
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Honestly, I'd rather hear a new Warren G & Nate Dogg solo. The 213 album wasn't sounding too nice anyways, so it's not a big loss.
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Don't get me wrong I really wanted this album to drop like everyone else, but there's two sides to this argument. For one thing, 213 were gonna be working with The Neptunes on this album. I cannot imagine what a combination like this would've sounded like but I'm pretty confident that it wouldn't be the 213 G-Funk we wanted! Secondly, several of the snippets that were posted sounded average at best and I started thinking what if the album wasn't the classic we were all expecting? Thirdly, we're in a completely different time slot from '93 and 213 would never have sounded like we wanted them to (that old school 'Doggystyle' type sound). Snoop's on all that pimp and playa stuff rhymes wise, whilst Warren's lyrics have improved but his flow can't hold a light to his music from the 'Regulate' era. If you think about the 213 thing like that, its not quite so bad...
That said, I still desperately want the record to drop! ;D
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Honestly, I'd rather hear a new Warren G & Nate Dogg solo. The 213 album wasn't sounding too nice anyways, so it's not a big loss.
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man... fuck the $ here. they're all best friends like kronik said, do a fuckin album. :-\
everyone wants to hear them, they should give us what we want, which is straight music. the sales would be at the top.
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that would be some bigg ass bullshit not releasin this project. damn >:(
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no1 is happy with the pay split...
they record the entire album and then they realise....fuckin idiots
peace
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I could give a fucc 'bout a 213 album. I'd rather C just a Nate/Warren collabo.
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If they would care about their fans, they'd drop the album and money wouldn't play a role.
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just get ready 4 all that shit 2 leak on the net son
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"Friends... How many of us have them?"
Yeah fuckin' right. 90 percent business, 10 percent show. Ain't no love in this game, 'cause it's all about the dough.
A damn shame. Not that the released material got me super hyped or anything, but to let money get in the way is just sad really...
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this goes out to all you stupid fucks that ain't realized who's done sold out in the rap game. so snoop dogg ain't sold out right? only every one of his albums gon platinum, yet he got to have his money right for this project. All of them sellouts, snoop, nate, and warren. I'm glad this shit ain't droppin, fuck them sellout niggaz!
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man this shit right here proves they dont care for their fans...best thing would be someone from the camp gets his hands on this and leaks it...we'll have the album and they wont see a $ from the project problem solved ;D
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Honestly, I'd rather hear a new Warren G & Nate Dogg solo. The 213 album wasn't sounding too nice anyways, so it's not a big loss.
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They said they been wanting to do the album forever...not really, if money is gonna get in the way. If its about the way the money is divided, split is straight up. Not even getting my hopes up, other albums im anticipating more anyways.
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this goes out to all you stupid fucks that ain't realized who's done sold out in the rap game. so snoop dogg ain't sold out right? only every one of his albums gon platinum, yet he got to have his money right for this project. All of them sellouts, snoop, nate, and warren. I'm glad this shit ain't droppin, fuck them sellout niggaz!
so everyone is he game on west basically sell outs? dre, snoop, nate, warren......who else? man u never know whats goin on behind the scenes, u chat shit dawg, u aint gotta klu about sellin.......makin joints with netpunes, means u a sellout? damn alot of niggaz done sold out in the game............
oh n fuck them sellout niggaz but your still gonna bump there shit right? klown
by the way, im dissapounted it aint droppin, specially if its over money, but damn, maybe they jus realised they wernt gonna meet expectations or sumshit..........who knows what happened, all im sayin is i was lookni forward to 213
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:'(..... 8)..... :-\
Sad bout it, Came to grip's, Still kinda bummed...
Still wanna hear that shitt.
but if it never happens so be it.
Hatesrats 2oooIV
(We still got "Game don't wait")
^I guess so will we^
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this goes out to all you stupid fucks that ain't realized who's done sold out in the rap game. so snoop dogg ain't sold out right? only every one of his albums gon platinum, yet he got to have his money right for this project. All of them sellouts, snoop, nate, and warren. I'm glad this shit ain't droppin, fuck them sellout niggaz!
so everyone is he game on west basically sell outs? dre, snoop, nate, warren......who else? man u never know whats goin on behind the scenes, u chat shit dawg, u aint gotta klu about sellin.......makin joints with netpunes, means u a sellout? damn alot of niggaz done sold out in the game............
its funny how you always tell me I don't know what I'm talkin about, yet in my eyes your the one who doesn't know what he's talking about. I ain't gotta clue about sellin? I know a whole fuckin shitload more than you about business, I put my fuckin life on that. I don't even know why I bother to explain this shit to you. You too fuckin hard headed, and too much on snoops dick. Lots of westcoast rappers ain't sold out. If snoop makes music with the neptunes, yes that is part of him sellin out, but not the only part. How many tracks has snoop done with them? Alls I really know is beautiful and from tha chuurch. and the beat on from tha church was wack as fuck. Snoop coulda easily gotten better beats from countless producers, yet he chose the neptunes. Why? It's cause he sounds so much better over their beats right lyrcial g? I mean snoop and the neptunes is way better sounding than snoop and battlecat, meech, goldie loc, dre, daz, soopafly, dj pooh, warren g, fred wreck,(need I go on with producers). Don't matter tho, you luv snoop dogg, you will never see that he is sold out becuase your view is way too biased.
oh n fuck them sellout niggaz but your still gonna bump there shit right? klown
what else do I bump? do I bump neptunes? Ludacris? How the fuck do you know what I bump. Only album I listen to of snoops is doggystyle, and occasionally I'll give top dogg, and tha doggfather a listen. I pretty much don't bump any of nates albums. And only albums of warren I bump are his first 2. I don't listen to shit these guys do nowadays cause 75% of the time its wack imo. So don't be tellin me what I listen to, cause I know a lot better than you. Klown.
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thats fuckin sad this shit better leak soon though
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Honestly, I'd rather hear a new Warren G & Nate Dogg solo. The 213 album wasn't sounding too nice anyways, so it's not a big loss.
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We don't even know if this is true. Speculation
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this goes out to all you stupid fucks that ain't realized who's done sold out in the rap game. so snoop dogg ain't sold out right? only every one of his albums gon platinum, yet he got to have his money right for this project. All of them sellouts, snoop, nate, and warren. I'm glad this shit ain't droppin, fuck them sellout niggaz!
so everyone is he game on west basically sell outs? dre, snoop, nate, warren......who else? man u never know whats goin on behind the scenes, u chat shit dawg, u aint gotta klu about sellin.......makin joints with netpunes, means u a sellout? damn alot of niggaz done sold out in the game............
its funny how you always tell me I don't know what I'm talkin about, yet in my eyes your the one who doesn't know what he's talking about. I ain't gotta clue about sellin? I know a whole fuckin shitload more than you about business, I put my fuckin life on that. I don't even know why I bother to explain this shit to you. You too fuckin hard headed, and too much on snoops dick. Lots of westcoast rappers ain't sold out. If snoop makes music with the neptunes, yes that is part of him sellin out, but not the only part. How many tracks has snoop done with them? Alls I really know is beautiful and from tha chuurch. and the beat on from tha church was wack as fuck. Snoop coulda easily gotten better beats from countless producers, yet he chose the neptunes. Why? It's cause he sounds so much better over their beats right lyrcial g? I mean snoop and the neptunes is way better sounding than snoop and battlecat, meech, goldie loc, dre, daz, soopafly, dj pooh, warren g, fred wreck,(need I go on with producers). Don't matter tho, you luv snoop dogg, you will never see that he is sold out becuase your view is way too biased.
oh n fuck them sellout niggaz but your still gonna bump there shit right? klown
what else do I bump? do I bump neptunes? Ludacris? How the fuck do you know what I bump. Only album I listen to of snoops is doggystyle, and occasionally I'll give top dogg, and tha doggfather a listen. I pretty much don't bump any of nates albums. And only albums of warren I bump are his first 2. I don't listen to shit these guys do nowadays cause 75% of the time its wack imo. So don't be tellin me what I listen to, cause I know a lot better than you. Klown.
yo i may be hard headed, but im willin to listen to other cats opinions about shit, like u, but when u chattin str8 wack, i gotta laugh.........how am i on snoops dick man, u should go check back to previous posts........(if its worth it, cuz it aint but if u wanna, go check) and you'll see aint no way am i snoops dick, i jus feel what he spits and when he comes weak i say it and when he comes good, i do........i jus dont hate, my opinion is str8 up real on snoop, i aint biased, whether u beleive it or not...........and u talkin about snoop sellin ou cuz he got beats by neptunes? homie there again u chattin shit, cuz he wants to sell records, he sold out.......man usually dre be his man to giv him them big records to sell, but with his last joint......as we all know dre wernt their, so he chose neptunes to giv him them big hits to sell, aint nuttin about sellin out their.........like i said, u dono shit about sellin out........and yeah, one of them beats were wack but u mite wanna check some next beat netpunes gave the dogg on some soundtrack or sumshit, its sick......aint nuttin commercial about it either......and dawg if workin with neptunes means u sellin out, thats such str8 bullshit.....that means snoops sold out.......and then ofcourse jay-z sold out.......cuz u know, he keeps makin joints with neptunes over other producers he could get better beats from.......nas sold out, cuz he worked with them.......i could go forever cuz they worked with so many cats, point is, jus cuz u get a neptunes beat dont mean u sold out....i mean if all these niggaz is sellouts, the whole games a sellout, since workin with a sellout makes u one to........so everyone whos worked with anyone who worked with neptunes n shit.....they sold out to.........see whut im sayin, u need to check ya shit about sellin out, and yeah its tru, business duz got alot to do with sellin out n shit but where u come with dre, snoop, wareen, nate all sold out.....i jus gotta laugh at how much shit that is.........like i said, i listen to ya shit, and if u was right, id check myself and get on wit it, but aint no way u taliin real.........but im done with this, cuz im sho me n u cud go bac n forth foeva, so say what u say cuz im out......man if u think all them niggaz sold out, aint nobody chekin your shit.......
oh n by the way, luda is sick
peace
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so give me 2 rappers that are examples of sellouts in your opinion. and pleeze don't tell me that no one in rap has sold out.
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For me, selling out is making a record when you only care about success and not about the quality of your music. That doesnt mean that when you've done a good record you cant worry about it selling. ALL rappers do music for money, that's obvious, would you be working for free? But the point is that some artists stay true to their style and care about the quality (no matter who you work with, as long as you do it with the intention of making a good record and not only a hit record) and other just make hit records, even tho their music sucks, they know it and they dont care as long as it sells.
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so give me 2 rappers that are examples of sellouts in your opinion. and pleeze don't tell me that no one in rap has sold out.
haha, now imma name 2 rappers n gon break down my opinions to shit,lol..........nah for real, 2 rappers to me who sold out were vanilla ice (man klown even said it himself he sold out)and ja rule(when u come feature on other niggaz albums as a rapper n sing......its kinda worryin,lol).........kurupt to a certain extent............homie was chillin with one crew n went off with their biggest enemies (death row).........
man i respect your opinion, like if i did have to put up a case for one of warren, snoop, dre, nate who sold out, fo sho youd come up with the strongest case for snoop considerin what the others have,or havent done.......nate jus sings on anyones tracks cuz its the only way he gon make paper.......but i dont think he sold out at all..........i jus aint diggin ya opinion ya opinion on sellin out, i got nuttin personal against u or any foo on this wcc, uve helped me in the past on some work i had to do, so i respect it, but like i said, dawg i aint on the same weed on as u when it comes to talkin about sellouts
pz
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I can understand Warren & Nate worrying about money, those 2 arent as well off
But Snoop man he got millions why he care
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Nah, if anyone's hungry for cash in 213 its probably Warren - which is a real shame to me. Warren may not be the best rapper or anything like that but his beats always come with a high level of quality and he seems really passionate about the music he makes. Snoop is of course loaded and should be the least concerned with money, although I don't think Nate could be far behind with all the guest spots he makes (he must get paid for the majority of them, bar his fam like Snoop I guess) and the amount of hits he has laced. Nate will probably make more of his 'featuring' spots then he'll ever make off one of his own records. That too is a bit screwed up becuase I always liked Nate's solo material...
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Anyway they are our heroes bla bla bla, but they look dumber now! It wasnt me to promote the album in the official Doggystyle website, or in Warren G's last album. It wasnt me to talk about 213 in every interview. It wasnt me to say "Keep the faith in us". It wasnt me to make tracks like "Friends". Dumbs. Period.
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man this shit right here proves they dont care for their fans...best thing would be someone from the camp gets his hands on this and leaks it...we'll have the album and they wont see a $ from the project problem solved ;D
lol
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If the Warren+Nate Regulators CD can happen and 213 can't happen then do the math and you'll get who's fault it is.