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Title: Alright you say 50 got weak lyrics
Post by: JTSimon on January 19, 2004, 01:37:20 AM
Yet 90% of you all are die-hard Snoop Dogg fans/dickryders.

How does that work? Snoop Dogg is worst lyricist around along with most of

the current and former West Coast Rappers {Ice Cube/Mac 10/Warren G.....}
Title: Re:Alright you say 50 got weak lyrics
Post by: eNgIeS on January 19, 2004, 04:45:00 AM
Is that a pic of Nelly in your avatar

If so then ur word is worthless

I dont think 50 is weak myself, I dont think he is great thou, he is decent, but not all that, but at least he keepin it gangsta i guess

Cube has never came weak u dummy so go suck ur own dick

Snoop had improved dude he aint like Doggystyle but he better than half the game
Title: Re:Alright you say 50 got weak lyrics
Post by: Kill on January 19, 2004, 04:57:12 AM
u got a point, snoop ain't really a great lyricist (a great rapper tho as for flow, delivery and style) and 50 got sum dope lines too. he just puts out too much lyrically weak shit. And Cube is definitely not one of the worst lyricists. and too me it looks like that's nelly too...no hatin intended but his lyrics are worse than all those cats'
Title: Re:Alright you say 50 got weak lyrics
Post by: West C. Connected on January 19, 2004, 10:02:39 AM
Maybe right now they're about the same to me.
Nothing amazing, good rappers, bad lyricists but they make good songs for people that don't like rap.
Title: Re:Alright you say 50 got weak lyrics
Post by: JTSimon on January 19, 2004, 10:15:13 AM
Yeah that is Nelly but I'm not into lyrics I just like good music. Plus Midwest is not known for great lyrics.

Title: Re:Alright you say 50 got weak lyrics
Post by: Kill on January 19, 2004, 10:44:15 AM
well detroit is midwest too and sum d cats (including Eminem) are tight lyricists, but Nelly ain't. But if u like his shit that's coo tho, I personally don't...50 actually got talent even at writin lyrics. I liked him more a while back (especially on "Guess Who's Back") and actually he is kinda versatile, only recently he's been droppin the type of verses that sell best and fit the hype. But IMO a verse like "50 Bars" is ill, of course he ain't Nas or Talib Kweli.

Btw, I don't think 90% on here are hardcore snoop dickriders, there are sum but most people are just big fans of w/c gangsta shit and snoop's that genre's big livin legend...people prolly don't like snoop cuz they consider him a tight lyricist but cause they just luv his music whereas they're not that much into 50's so they complain bout the weak lyrics
Title: Re:Alright you say 50 got weak lyrics
Post by: Lincoln on January 19, 2004, 03:52:02 PM
Yet 90% of you all are die-hard Snoop Dogg fans/dickryders.

How does that work? Snoop Dogg is worst lyricist around along with most of

the current and former West Coast Rappers {Ice Cube/Mac 10/Warren G.....}

I hate Snoop, and I think Warren's pretty wack, but Cube & Mack 10 are both good lyricists (not like Kweli but still good). They blow 50 away in every category.
Title: Re:Alright you say 50 got weak lyrics
Post by: T.J. on January 19, 2004, 04:21:13 PM
i say 50 cent has weak lyrics, and i dont like snoop dogg.warren g + mack 10 are lyrically weak, but not ice cube..... and maybe all these snoop fans/dickriders are listening to snoop for the same reason you listen to nelly... too quick to judge us, you are
Title: Re:Alright you say 50 got weak lyrics
Post by: Lincoln on January 19, 2004, 04:30:05 PM
mack 10 are lyrically weak,

Not really man I think he's pretty underrated when it comes to lyrics.
Title: Re:Alright you say 50 got weak lyrics
Post by: T.J. on January 19, 2004, 04:36:37 PM
its a matter of opinion
Title: Re:Alright you say 50 got weak lyrics
Post by: Gotti......Xl on January 19, 2004, 05:46:38 PM
(http://www.mtv.com/bands/n/nelly/flipbook_0703/images/flip2.jpg) nelly iz a lil  bitch
Title: Re:Alright you say 50 got weak lyrics
Post by: JTSimon on January 19, 2004, 06:17:49 PM
Is that a pic of Nelly in your avatar

If so then ur word is worthless

I dont think 50 is weak myself, I dont think he is great thou, he is decent, but not all that, but at least he keepin it gangsta i guess

Cube has never came weak u dummy so go suck ur own dick

Snoop had improved dude he aint like Doggystyle but he better than half the game

Did I hurt your feelings?

Fo' shizzle my nizzle is not improving  ;D



i say 50 cent has weak lyrics, and i dont like snoop dogg.warren g + mack 10 are lyrically weak, but not ice cube..... and maybe all these snoop fans/dickriders are listening to snoop for the same reason you listen to nelly... too quick to judge us, you are

Yeah but I can careless about lyrics...I'm not the one ripping 50 on his lyrics with a Snoop Dogg/Nate Dog photo in my avatar.
Title: Re:Alright you say 50 got weak lyrics
Post by: JTSimon on January 19, 2004, 06:19:29 PM
Nelly/Chingy same thing.
Title: Re:Alright you say 50 got weak lyrics
Post by: D-ReK on January 19, 2004, 06:38:55 PM
1 entry found for nelly.
nel·ly or nel·lie    ( P )  Pronunciation Key  (nl)
n. Offensive Slang pl. nel·lies
Used as a disparaging term for an effeminate homosexual man


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Title: Re:Alright you say 50 got weak lyrics
Post by: Hatesrats™ on January 19, 2004, 06:49:13 PM

Just wanna understand how anyone can hate on
Cube & Snoop Dogg..... ???

That's Legend's in (This) form of music..
concrete layer's...
building that foundation 4 u
Most youngin' don't appreciate what dues we're paid.
4 hip-hop to become what it is today. :-X

like most of the hater's...
who never knew what it was like to bump a new album by either one of them.
never knew
"AmeriKKKa's most wanted" or "Doggystyle"
in their respective primes..

suck's 2 be u..
Hatesrats 2oooIV





Title: Re:Alright you say 50 got weak lyrics
Post by: Jome on January 19, 2004, 08:07:45 PM
If anybody didn't notice by now, 50 Cent isn't about mindboggling/mindblowing lyrics or political revolution, he's about raw (braindead) gangstashit & catchy hooks.
Same goes for Snoop Dogg & 80% of Jay-Z tracks for that matter.
Title: Re:Alright you say 50 got weak lyrics
Post by: SGV on January 20, 2004, 12:16:43 AM

the current and former West Coast Rappers {Ice Cube/Mac 10/Warren G.....}
The fact that you say Cube is a wack lyricist makes me laugh. Go listen to Amerikkkas Most. That's what an emcee is about. LOL @ this clown. Release 50's balls from your teeth.
Title: Re:Alright you say 50 got weak lyrics
Post by: eNgIeS on January 20, 2004, 05:53:19 AM
Max Juice, the only juice in you is booty juice you dick sucking faggot I dont give a fuck what you say coz your about as smart & knowledgeable as Paris Hilton you bird brained idiot infected with Poof-A-Litus
Title: Re:Alright you say 50 got weak lyrics
Post by: JTSimon on January 20, 2004, 10:06:37 AM
Max Juice, the only juice in you is booty juice you dick sucking faggot I dont give a fuck what you say coz your about as smart & knowledgeable as Paris Hilton you bird brained idiot infected with Poof-A-Litus

^Would kill for Snoop  ;D

Title: Re:Alright you say 50 got weak lyrics
Post by: NobodyButMe on January 20, 2004, 10:45:18 AM
when snoop came out he was the hottest lyricist of his time. now his shit sounds wack. it's a simple concept. even "the GOAT" rakim sounds wack next to people like xzibit. you can't take people from different time periods and compare them - that's like saying that the bulls of the 90's couldn't beat the lakers of today. times have changed, and the criteria of a dope mc has changed. run dmc sounds wack to me and sounds pathetic even compared to nelly - only because they are different styles from different times.  
Title: Re:Alright you say 50 got weak lyrics
Post by: Kill on January 20, 2004, 12:20:18 PM
when snoop came out he was the hottest lyricist of his time. now his shit sounds wack. it's a simple concept. even "the GOAT" rakim sounds wack next to people like xzibit. you can't take people from different time periods and compare them - that's like saying that the bulls of the 90's couldn't beat the lakers of today. times have changed, and the criteria of a dope mc has changed. run dmc sounds wack to me and sounds pathetic even compared to nelly - only because they are different styles from different times.  

that's pretty much on point, in a way it's like special effects in movies or cell phones. If RUN-DMC came out today they'd be wack, but knowin it was 1984 i can listen to their first album and still think it's dope. Still I think the criteria aint changin rapidly (maybe not anymore)...'94's Nas or Big L definitely sound doper than '04's 50 Cent or Chingy (or came stronger lyrically respectively)

And as for Snoop when he came out he was a tight rapper, but lyrically artists like Organized Konfusion or Nas who came out more or less around the same time or at least not much later were definitely alot better
Title: Re:Alright you say 50 got weak lyrics
Post by: AlerG on January 20, 2004, 01:52:46 PM
whoever said cube is wack made a very uneducated comment...that's all i'ma say about that...
as for snoop being wack...i wouldn't say he's wack but i wouldn't say he's consistant either...there are times when i hear snoop like on "the one and only" when i think damn if he only came like that all the time he could be considered among the elite at all times...but he releases too much filler, that's my opinion...
as for 50 cent, he isn't dope lyrically, but once in awhile he'll say some tight shit, but not very often...but he is very catchy, and also appeals to the ladies which helps him sell a crazy amoun of records which will keep him on minds until his lime has passed...
chingy and nelly, i really can't stand either, but if i were to have to choose between the two i would pick nelly, because he doesn't seem like a total carbon-copy...chingy is so unoriginal, if right thurr was written by nelly or one of the st-lunatics it would make alot more sense to me...

peace.
Title: Re:Alright you say 50 got weak lyrics
Post by: white Boy on January 20, 2004, 01:56:27 PM
Yet 90% of you all are die-hard Snoop Dogg fans/dickryders.

How does that work? Snoop Dogg is worst lyricist around along with most of

the current and former West Coast Rappers {Ice Cube/Mac 10/Warren G.....}
kweli is  amazing

I hate Snoop, and I think Warren's pretty wack, but Cube & Mack 10 are both good lyricists (not like Kweli but still good). They blow 50 away in every category.
Title: Re:Alright you say 50 got weak lyrics
Post by: white Boy on January 20, 2004, 01:56:52 PM
Yet 90% of you all are die-hard Snoop Dogg fans/dickryders.

How does that work? Snoop Dogg is worst lyricist around along with most of

the current and former West Coast Rappers {Ice Cube/Mac 10/Warren G.....}
kweli is  amazing

I hate Snoop, and I think Warren's pretty wack, but Cube & Mack 10 are both good lyricists (not like Kweli but still good). They blow 50 away in every category.
Title: Re:Alright you say 50 got weak lyrics
Post by: On The Edge of Insanity on January 20, 2004, 02:16:08 PM
when snoop came out he was the hottest lyricist of his time. now his shit sounds wack. it's a simple concept. even "the GOAT" rakim sounds wack next to people like xzibit. you can't take people from different time periods and compare them - that's like saying that the bulls of the 90's couldn't beat the lakers of today. times have changed, and the criteria of a dope mc has changed. run dmc sounds wack to me and sounds pathetic even compared to nelly - only because they are different styles from different times.  

The criteria does change yes as you said, but still what Nelly/50 Cent etc do now is worse than what was done before no matter how far back you go. Run DMC was all about the chemistry between the two emcees, and even then tracks such as Sucker MCs blow away Nelly lyrically. The fact that the "times are changing" shouldn't be an excuse for every time a rapper releases a song which is worse than their old material. If you made dope tracks that sounded like you used to then that would be the sound of the times now.

And Rakim doesn't sound wack compared to Xzibit at all. As much as I like Xzibit, there is no way that he is above Rakim lyrically. The whole subtlety of Rakim's flow sometimes makes him seem less lyrical than he actually is, just because it sounds so smooth when he raps it. Lyrically I would take Rakim over Xzibit anyday.
Title: Re:Alright you say 50 got weak lyrics
Post by: JTSimon on January 20, 2004, 03:42:56 PM

the current and former West Coast Rappers {Ice Cube/Mac 10/Warren G.....}
The fact that you say Cube is a wack lyricist makes me laugh. Go listen to Amerikkkas Most. That's what an emcee is about. LOL @ this clown. Release 50's balls from your teeth.

Whatever you say...Ice Cube should just make movies full-time.
Title: Re:Alright you say 50 got weak lyrics
Post by: Lincoln on January 20, 2004, 05:07:03 PM
Max Juice, the only juice in you is booty juice you dick sucking faggot I dont give a fuck what you say coz your about as smart & knowledgeable as Paris Hilton you bird brained idiot infected with Poof-A-Litus

Holy shit, calm down kid. Don't get your panties twisted over Snoop, it ain't worth it.