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Lifestyle => Sports & Entertainment => Topic started by: smerlus on January 21, 2004, 02:43:03 AM
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http://cube.ign.com/articles/473/473998p1.html
hmmmmmm sounds like it's going to be a big hit....like the virtual boy ::)
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Damn, you're pessimistic as fuck. Once again, Nintendo pioneers a new technology never before thought of, even though it's simple as fuck. Of course, it has been thought of before, by Nintendo, with it's advance connectibility to the Gamecube, providing different screens on the advance to help play the gamecube game. We'll see how well it sells.
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i already know how well it will sell....not that good... the dreamcast VMU was held with the utmost respect as a gaming breakthrough and look what happened to that? so was the virtual boy.....the power glove.....these are all add ons or systems that no one will develop for.....
which company in thier right mind would make a game to use this feature when there really isn't a demand for that sort of thing?
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hmm u say something like Virtual Boy then it will be one hell of a system all systems from nintendo to me are great and the best so yeah cant wait to see more of this.
end gigaganon
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virtual boy sucked...and it was a health risk....prolonged play would fuck up your brain
and red and black were the only two colors
also wasn't very portable
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You know nothing about this other than it's made by nintendo, and has two screens...
How can you predict it's failure? Why not wait untill you know more about something before writing it off?
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Also considering that Nintendo has sold GOD KNOWS how many gameboys over the past 15 years, and portable gaming is on the rise, I think it's ignorant to say that there's "No demand" for a product like this...
If there was no demand, would Sony be making a portable gaming device? Would Nokia? Would Sega have made a portable device? There's obviously a demand, and nintendo is filling it. For it to sit on it's laurels is just bad business.
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it's not going to work, they are going to have to convince the market that this new device is a viable gaming system next to the psp and next to the gba....and like i said, developers are going to have to commit time and money for games JUST for this system and it's capabilities....nintendo doesn't have that kind of backing power and lets face it, many game developers aren't ready to take that kind of risk....most developers don't even take advantage of the gamecube - gameboy advanced connectivity so give me a logical reason why they would do this?
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and please don't lower my karma cause you don't agree, that makes me a saaaaaaaad panda
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Back to the virtual boy: Ahead of it's time. LOL simple as that, that thing was cool as shit, yes, I did have one. I think the only game I had for it was Tennis, but still, lol. I couldn't fuckin' believe they made that system.
Lets not forget the only reason Sony is even IN the gaming market is because they built the playstation for Nintendo, as a CD player for the SNES. Nintendo rejected it, and they rolled it out repackaged as the PS1.
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Back to the virtual boy: Ahead of it's time. LOL simple as that, that thing was cool as shit, yes, I did have one. I think the only game I had for it was Tennis, but still, lol. I couldn't fuckin' believe they made that system.
Lets not forget the only reason Sony is even IN the gaming market is because they built the playstation for Nintendo, as a CD player for the SNES. Nintendo rejected it, and they rolled it out repackaged as the PS1.
i'll agree the IDEA was ahead of it's time and it took some balls to put that system out....but the times technology and the way they marketed it made it a flop from the start.....the bad press about the health issues didn't help much either
and so what if it took nintendo to get sony in the business? ....it's just another example of poor decisions by nintendo....they lost billions of dollars just on that mistake
again....Nintendo has a hard time marketing thier main console Gamecube to developers and to consumers... how are they going to convince both groups the need for another console?
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^ You believe what you want to believe, you don't look up facts. Gamecube's having a hard time being marketed? It's the #2 selling system in the world, above the X-box. Their software sales are growing faster than Sony or Microsofts, and recent Gamecube games have been some of the best selling games out (Mario Kart: Double Dash!!, Metroid Prime, Zelda the windwaker, F-Zero, etc. etc. etc.)... how are they having a hard time marketing to consumers? I don't see it.
also, since this is a portable device, look at the success of the Gameboy. They destroyed the competition, and put several companies out of business by making their hand-held systems obsolete, all with nintendo's gameboy having inferior quality! They put Sega's game gear out, Atari's lynx out, Sega's Nomad out of business, The Turbograffix Express, The Bandai Wonderswan, The Wonderswan color, the Neo Geo pocket, the Neo Geo pocket color, ... need I go on? LOL Bring on the PSP, and Nintendo will bring on the Nintendo DS.
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and so what if it took nintendo to get sony in the business? ....it's just another example of poor decisions by nintendo....they lost billions of dollars just on that mistake
I'll give you a player pass and assume you're too young to realize, but the reason Nintendo passed on the PS1 was because it would have been a CD player for the SNES. Sega had just released a CD player for their genesis, which flopped HORRIBLY, and Nintendo wisely chose to develop a new system, the Ultra64, soon to become the N64, which was cartridge based. That's not a poor decision, that's called look at the competition. The PS1 became successful as a stand-alone, but as an attachment to the bottom of the SNES, it would have been doomed.
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^ You believe what you want to believe, you don't look up facts. Gamecube's having a hard time being marketed? It's the #2 selling system in the world, above the X-box. Their software sales are growing faster than Sony or Microsofts, and recent Gamecube games have been some of the best selling games out (Mario Kart: Double Dash!!, Metroid Prime, Zelda the windwaker, F-Zero, etc. etc. etc.)... how are they having a hard time marketing to consumers? I don't see it.
also, since this is a portable device, look at the success of the Gameboy. They destroyed the competition, and put several companies out of business by making their hand-held systems obsolete, all with nintendo's gameboy having inferior quality! They put Sega's game gear out, Atari's lynx out, Sega's Nomad out of business, The Turbograffix Express, The Bandai Wonderswan, The Wonderswan color, the Neo Geo pocket, the Neo Geo pocket color, ... need I go on? LOL Bring on the PSP, and Nintendo will bring on the Nintendo DS.
the only reason nintendo took number 2 is because of the price drop....now tell me, do you think it takes just $99 to market and produce the gamecube? if you do, you're wrong....for a fact, they are losing money on the gamecube....thier software does good of course....the gameboy advance does good....gamecube loses them money
and i didn't say anything about the gameboy advanced doing bad....
give me reasons why the gameboy advance does good and those will be the same reasons that this new thing wont
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and so what if it took nintendo to get sony in the business? ....it's just another example of poor decisions by nintendo....they lost billions of dollars just on that mistake
I'll give you a player pass and assume you're too young to realize, but the reason Nintendo passed on the PS1 was because it would have been a CD player for the SNES. Sega had just released a CD player for their genesis, which flopped HORRIBLY, and Nintendo wisely chose to develop a new system, the Ultra64, soon to become the N64, which was cartridge based. That's not a poor decision, that's called look at the competition. The PS1 became successful as a stand-alone, but as an attachment to the bottom of the SNES, it would have been doomed.
and once again trauma the all knowing, let me put you in your place as an ignorant person
June 1991 Treachery At The 11th Hour
In June of 1991, at the Chicago CES (Consumer Electronics Show), Sony officially announced the Play Station (space intentional). The Play Station would have a port to play Super Nintendo cartridges, as well as a CD-ROM drive that would play Sony Super Discs. The machine would be able to play videogames as well as other forms of interactive entertainment, as was considered important at the time.
Sony intended to draw on its family of companies, including Sony Music and Columbia Pictures, to develop software. Olaf Olafsson, then chief of Sony Electronic Publishing, was seen on the set of Hook, Steven Spielberg's new Peter Pan movie, presumably deciding how the movie could be worked into a game for the fledgling Play Station. In Fortune magazine, Olafsson was quoted as saying "The video-game business...will be much more interesting (than when it was cartridge based). By owning a studio, we can get involved right from the beginning, during the writing of the movie."
By this point, Nintendo had had just about all it could take. On top of the deal signed in 1988, Sony had also contributed the main audio chip to the cartridge-based Super NES. The Ken Kutaragi-designed chip was a key element to the system, but was designed in such a way as to make effective development possible only with Sony's expensive development tools. Sony had also retained all rights to the chip, which further exaserbated Nintendo.
The day after Sony announced its plans to begin work on the Play Station, Nintendo made an announcement of its own. Instead of confirming its alliance with Sony, as everyone expected, Nintendo announced it was working with Philips, Sony's longtime rivals, on the SNES CD-ROM drive. Sony was understandably furious.
Because of their contract-breaking actions, Nintendo not only faced legal repercussions from Sony, but could also experience a serious backlash from the Japanese business community. Nintendo had broken the unwritten law that a company shouldn't turn against a reigning Japanese company in favor of a foreign one.
However, Nintendo managed to escape without a penalty. Because of their mutual involvement, it would be in the best interests of both companies to maintain friendly relations. Sony, after all, was planning a port for SNES carts, and Nintendo was still using the Sony audio chip.
source: http://psx.ign.com/articles/060/060188p1.html?fromint=1
any other comments you want tomake while knowing only 1/2 the story?
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so what's the next step trauma? hit the diss button and be like your ace bush, ignore the facts and be a "MAN"?
and thanks for the "player pass" you can have it back cause you need it more
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^ What the FUCK are you talking about? LOL... Didn't I just say that Nintendo decided against the SNES CD system, and didn't you just post the same fucking thing? I know all about Phillip's involvement, their SNES CD system went on to become the Phillips CD-i. Calm the fuck down when you talk to your superior, son, I OWN all these systems, you were still in Diapers when half of them came out.
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^ What the FUCK are you talking about? LOL... Didn't I just say that Nintendo decided against the SNES CD system, and didn't you just post the same fucking thing? I know all about Phillip's involvement, their SNES CD system went on to become the Phillips CD-i. Calm the fuck down when you talk to your superior, son, I OWN all these systems, you were still in Diapers when half of them came out.
holy shit you're ignorant and need to stay off the medication!
you said the playstation was supposed to be the snes add on when it says that the playstation was supposed to be it's own console that was backwards compatable with the snes..... thats two entirely different things....phillips is the one that was supposed to make the add on, and that got scrapped because nintendo realized add ons don't work....
i guess you are an inbred moron and will stand by whatever you say even though you are wrong as hell
and if nintendo is so smart, why did itr elease the n64 DD add on when the n64 was well on it's way out?
you need to give it up. nintendo has had it's fair share of botched equipment and like i said, nintendo can come out with a machine with 5 different screens, doesn't mean the developers are going to have anything to do with it...
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Dude, Give it up...Personal attacks make you look like a moron.
The 64dd was released in Japan Only.
Nintendo OWNS the handheld market. It can do whatever the fuck it wants. Name one other company that has had even CLOSE to the success Nintendo has had with it's gameboy.
It's clear that you are a biased individual. You don't know shit about this new console except that it's got 2 screens. Nintendo hasn't even released a screenshot, specs, or developer list. Why not wait untill you know more instead of passing judgment on something? Thats like me hearing the title of Xzibit's next album and saying it sucks. You don't have any facts to back up your statements.
Do you really think you're smarter than a multi-billion dollar company? You aren't.
Do you think they haven't done their research? They have.
Do you think you could do better? Why haven't you?
Nintendo is a Smart company. They've made their mistakes in the past, but I promise you they've learned from them. Quit hating and making an ass out of yourself.
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Dude, Give it up...Personal attacks make you look like a moron.
The 64dd was released in Japan Only.
Nintendo OWNS the handheld market. It can do whatever the fuck it wants. Name one other company that has had even CLOSE to the success Nintendo has had with it's gameboy.
It's clear that you are a biased individual. You don't know shit about this new console except that it's got 2 screens. Nintendo hasn't even released a screenshot, specs, or developer list. Why not wait untill you know more instead of passing judgment on something? Thats like me hearing the title of Xzibit's next album and saying it sucks. You don't have any facts to back up your statements.
Do you really think you're smarter than a multi-billion dollar company? You aren't.
Do you think they haven't done their research? They have.
Do you think you could do better? Why haven't you?
Nintendo is a Smart company. They've made their mistakes in the past, but I promise you they've learned from them. Quit hating and making an ass out of yourself.
ok 1. i didn't start the name calling but i will defend myself
2. if it flopped in japan, why would they ever make it else where? you don't see mcdonalds coming out with shit that flops here and then selling them over seas
3. never said that nintendo's handheld sucks....but why do you think the gameboy does so good? alot of developers, cheap system, large selection of games...why does every other handheld fail? no choice of games, more expensive and not that many developers.....a hand held with 2 screens, 2 processors and doesn't play any gameboy games....means more moeny, no games, and not that many developers because developers don't make use of the gameboy/gamecube connectivity...see a pattern here?
4. how am i biased when i've own every system since nintendo except for the saturn and the phillips thingy? if i was nintendo hating, i wouldn't have a nintendo, snes, n64 in my closet along with a game cube hooked up to my tv and a gameboy advance in my drawer.... so that was a nice try but do your homework before you make an educated guess
for lines 5,7and 8....take that same advice you just gave me and apply it to yourself first and maybe i'll follow it.... don't talk shit about rappers that you don't like cause for one, you're not a millionaire, two you're not succesful in the business and three you're just hating (see how that works there?)
and lastly here's a poll that has been on videogames.com for only 2 days
In light of the Nintendo DS, how many screens would you ideally like to have on a portable gaming system?
Zero 2226 (34%)
1 2413 (37%)
2 620 (9%)
3 214 (3%)
4 150 (2%)
5 784 (12%)
a whopping 9% likes the 2 screen idea out of 5,000, and i picked 5 just because the idea of two screens is a joke.... so there's research facts right there for you....enjoy
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^ Yeah, and that's a great poll, a third of the geniuses don't need a screen to play the game. I wouldn't trust their opinion on shit, lol backwards misunderstanding motherfuckers.
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holy shit you're ignorant and need to stay off the medication!
you said the playstation was supposed to be the snes add on when it says that the playstation was supposed to be it's own console that was backwards compatable with the snes..... thats two entirely different things....phillips is the one that was supposed to make the add on, and that got scrapped because nintendo realized add ons don't work....
(http://www.gamersgraveyard.com/repository/snes/history/images/snes_cd-rom.jpg)
A Picture's worth a thousand words, motherfucker!
Again, you're too young and ignorant to know what the fuck you're talking about. Let me blow your entire argument the hell out of the water, and openly embarass you in front of the entire board. I do it frequently, but *sigh, I guess it's time to educate the retarded again.
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It's common knowledge that the Sony SNES CD Rom system was originally going to be an addon, attached via the bottom port on the SNES. Later, (I guess when you were old enough to comprehend english), they switched the idea to a standalone system that played both, and then changed it into the playstation as we know it. The original Playstation sat beneath a Super Nintendo, and didn't play super nintendo games on it's own, it only played discs using the SNES hardware above it! EVERYONE knows this! You think you 'Schooled' me, but you don't know what the fuck you're talking about.
http://www.roarvgm.com/systems/SNES/
They mention it here.
http://www.cyberiapc.com/vgg/nintendo_snes.htm
They mention it here.
http://www.cyberiapc.com/vgg/sony_ps.htm
They mention it here.
http://print.pcvsconsole.com/?hank=208
They mention it here.
I could go on, but I think I've embarassed you enough for now...
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^^^^^^^ HOLY SHIT LMFAO^^^^^^dope dope u showed him ,fucking moron, lol yeah i was trying to look for that pic but couldent find it but yeah great job man.....LONG LIVE NINTENDO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
end gigaganon
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first i'd like to say thanks for the pic of the system.......i also have pics of britney spears naked.....do they actually exist? maybe, but i can tell yours is a computer drawing so therefor doesn't mean shit... grown folks often make computer mock ups of things before the actual product comes out to see which design they like better.....anyways on to your post
bombarding me with articles that are from a person's own perspective and contridict one another hardly wins you an arguement
1st article...sony is supposed to design an add on but doesn't because cd's are too slow, so nintendo makes the fx chip
2nd article...what's this? the fx chip comes first? oh and remember nintendo scrapped plans to make the add on after realizing sony's cds were too slow.....hmm but here they went on to make deals with phillips.... doesn't make much sense so far
3rd article....same site as the second one. nintendo starts to look for a cd market to compete with rivals (SONY?!?!, sega, and nec) strange.....why would sony be a rival if they don't have a system out? oh then they work with sony (a rival) to develope an add on THEN work with phillips.....wait, back there they said sony came first then.......of forget it....then it goes on to say that sony worder thier agreement to use snes games (this is key for my article and the 4th one)
4th article..... is closest to the truth while sony WAS making an add on for the snes for part of thier deal, they were also designing thier own system...the add on wasn't the playstation part
which goes back to my article thier main deal was that they would gain control of snes games to use on thier own system called the playstation. sony then backed out of the deal when they saw what sony planned on doing and in turn faced the legal ramifications....
once again nintendo is a great judge of the market, they know how to sign botched deals and then back out of them and lose money anyways
so thanks for all the articles that stumbled over each other....were 3rd person accounts of the situation...and totally contradicted each other. while my article gives dates and everything.....by any chance, are you a writer for these sites?
oh and the poll...you see, there's this thing called satire, it's when you don't agree with something you make sarcastic remarks about it....hense me voting for 5 screens and people voting for 0.....and the lack of votes for 2 screens. i know, it's hard to understand but you should read political cartoons or watch south park sometimes
oh and gildedganon....just a word of advice.....Japanime isn't cool