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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: Mick a/k/a Mickaveli_#1 on January 28, 2004, 07:28:19 AM

Title: Mixtapes - Anyone else tired of this???
Post by: Mick a/k/a Mickaveli_#1 on January 28, 2004, 07:28:19 AM
I remember a time when mixtapes were used to promote unsigned artsits or done to send out to companies, sold after live gigs out back or at the bar, or sold in the corner in a local record store etc. But now more and more big names are involved in creating mixtapes when there's really no need. Snoop, Realest (who has his own label) Alike - Daz, etc. They're making it harder for the little guys to come up.

The MTV generation aint really helping matters either. 50 cent has been there, done that and Snoop - with the money he has - why in the hell does he want to put his name to a mixtape with a bunch of artists when he can quite easily drop a nationwide release??

It's like a circius monkey, being promoted to an astranout then flying down to juggling some peanuts when there aint no need!
Title: Re:Mixtapes - Anyone else tired of this???
Post by: NobodyButMe on January 28, 2004, 07:44:14 AM
i agree too. honestly, i rarely buy mixtapes. i buy 2pac mixtapes or biggie mixtapes. but rarely buy anything else unless it's new eminem shit that i can't find anywhere else.
Title: Re:Mixtapes - Anyone else tired of this???
Post by: Hatesrats™ on January 28, 2004, 07:45:22 AM
Can't get tired of free music...

ILUVIT!!!
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Title: Re:Mixtapes - Anyone else tired of this???
Post by: michael jackson on January 28, 2004, 07:54:30 AM
yeah rameen on point fa ssho,mixtapes after mixtape now.itss cuzz niccass sscared to drop cuzz of the industry bias sales.why drop a album and it sell sshit when u can put a mixtape out and get some cheap buzz.as soon as tha industry start support indie acts tha albums will come bacc!!!

i see rameen iss a 4life record homie! wassuop cuzz!!!im blu tha fucc out on the mafia4life board.i got nuthin but locc luvv for mafia and del dog and tha eastsida main street crips homie. pluss they get my vote for beating macc10 down and kidnapping him in dogs trunk lololol funny sshit
Title: Re:Mixtapes - Anyone else tired of this???
Post by: Kill on January 28, 2004, 08:33:22 AM
why drop a album and it sell sshit when u can put a mixtape out and get some cheap buzz

yeah, I guess that's what many artists think, so they put out tapes, it's easy, cheap and people expect alot less than they'd expect from an album. Also why is 50 so goddamn successful? Cause of mixtapes, he came up like that now he's on top so it's only logical others see the potential tapes got too. It's like a new trend and like most trends i think it's gonna be less popular again in a few years
Title: Re:Mixtapes - Anyone else tired of this???
Post by: Dj Eskimo on January 28, 2004, 09:52:53 AM
also artists that are signed (u mentioned Snoop) wanna put shit out but cant just go up to the label exec and say i want my album out next month, they gotta go through all the bullshit to put out albums, where as mixtapes just come out because they aint gonna be big releases.
Title: Re:Mixtapes - Anyone else tired of this???
Post by: Darksider on January 28, 2004, 10:29:37 AM
i agree
its now a situation where a mixtape is nothin special anymoore
Title: Re:Mixtapes - Anyone else tired of this???
Post by: D1G1T4L on January 28, 2004, 10:32:04 AM
i agree
its now a situation where a mixtape is nothin special anymoore

Title: Re:Mixtapes - Anyone else tired of this???
Post by: Nima - Dubcnn.com on January 28, 2004, 10:44:26 AM
i agree
its now a situation where a mixtape is nothin special anymoore


wait for the dubcnn one u gone take that back :p altho that one is more of a compilation...
Title: Re:Mixtapes - Anyone else tired of this???
Post by: Smoke on January 28, 2004, 10:45:53 AM
The problem is there are multiple versions of mixtapes too! Damn for example there's the DJ Jam version of Welcome 2 The Chuuch Mixtape, Daddy V's version, Snoop's version and DJ Whoo Kid's version! That's embarassing! But money is money.
Title: Re:Mixtapes - Anyone else tired of this???
Post by: HD on January 28, 2004, 10:46:52 AM
i agree
its now a situation where a mixtape is nothin special anymoore



most of the time i only listen once or just a few songs
Title: Re:Mixtapes - Anyone else tired of this???
Post by: Diabolical on January 28, 2004, 11:02:55 AM
i dont evenbother downloadng mixtapes but i want the DubCNN/WCA one
Title: Re:Mixtapes - Anyone else tired of this???
Post by: NobodyButMe on January 28, 2004, 11:25:37 AM
seriously i wonder how much money one artist can make off of a mixtape. they sell those things for 5 bucks out here in new york and you got like 30 or 40 artists on one goddam cd. how many mixtapes can one sell?
Title: Re:Mixtapes - Anyone else tired of this???
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Title: Re:Mixtapes - Anyone else tired of this???
Post by: XL Middleton on January 28, 2004, 12:32:44 PM
Mixtapes got my own personal opinion split down the middle - they're excellent for promotion and experimentation...a lot of artists have songs that wouldn't make the cut on an official album but they still want the people to hear them nonetheless...so throw em on a mixtape!!!  Did an artist write some hot verses that didnt make it to an official song? Grab someone else's beat and do a little "freestyle"...by nature the "mixtape" is a dope ass idea.

On the other hand, the homie sic sense wisely pointed out that today's mixtapes "are neither mixed, nor are they tapes".  Not that it matters, but it hints at the overall lameness that some mixtapes have.  You can sense a lot of artists are putting out mixtapes just because it's the thing to do...Jesus christ, Dialated Peoples put out a mixtape...their albums sounds like mixtapes!!!  I'd put a mixtape just to expose you to some extra songs I have layin around or some extra verses that I never put to any of my own beats, I just think people need to watch it a little and not kill the idea, because it's a great idea, but even the best ideas can get run through the mud in no time.
Title: Re:Mixtapes - Anyone else tired of this???
Post by: f0n|{sta on January 28, 2004, 02:58:01 PM
im tired of the chuuch tapes...
every tape the same shit
Title: Re:Mixtapes - Anyone else tired of this???
Post by: SGV on January 28, 2004, 03:25:25 PM
See, Mixtapes have always been flowing around. But, it was rare that artists or crews would do mixtapes. It used to just be DJs compiling songs and freestyles. The South was the first place that I start hearing crew Mixtapes.  It was the first place that I started hearing the song Remakes(you know, jacking the beat and re-working the hook and what not). But anyway, people see it as free promotion. You're not gonna get sued for a Mixtape, they can do virtually what they want.
Title: Re:Mixtapes - Anyone else tired of this???
Post by: Darksider on January 28, 2004, 06:47:43 PM
i agree
its now a situation where a mixtape is nothin special anymoore


wait for the dubcnn one u gone take that back :p altho that one is more of a compilation...
sounds good
Title: Re:Mixtapes - Anyone else tired of this???
Post by: On The Edge of Insanity on January 29, 2004, 04:10:31 AM
The modern day style mixtapes are completly pointless. They are just full of tracks that weren't good enough to make the actual album of the artist, wack remakes of other people's tracks, and the occasional freestyle. To top it all off the "DJ" on the majority of these tapes seems to do nothing but scream like a demented monkey over the best parts of the track. How 50 got signed off of his mixtapes I don't know, and that Snoop - Welcome to the Church mixtapes have all been perfect examples of how bad these mixtapes are.

The only mixtapes I ever fuck with, are ones by proper DJs, who actually mix stuff together well, and actually do some scratching, letting their DJ skills do the talking rather than their voices. Stuff released by anyone in the Beat Junkies crew, DJ Format, The Xecutioners, etc.

And Extra Large, what did you mean by saying that the Dilated Peoples albums sound like mixtapes anyway?
Title: Re:Mixtapes - Anyone else tired of this???
Post by: Mick a/k/a Mickaveli_#1 on January 29, 2004, 04:36:02 AM

i see rameen iss a 4life record homie! wassuop cuzz!!!im blu tha fucc out on the mafia4life board.i got nuthin but locc luvv for mafia and del dog and tha eastsida main street crips homie. pluss they get my vote for beating macc10 down and kidnapping him in dogs trunk lololol funny sshit


Nope, sorry don't stay in america at all no more. I moved from a long time ago when I was an ity bity teen. Happy here now tho. where u from? u stay in gleaf?
Title: Re:Mixtapes - Anyone else tired of this???
Post by: Kill on January 29, 2004, 05:16:32 AM
The only mixtapes I ever fuck with, are ones by proper DJs, who actually mix stuff together well, and actually do some scratching, letting their DJ skills do the talking rather than their voices. Stuff released by anyone in the Beat Junkies crew, DJ Format, The Xecutioners, etc.

yeah. That's the type of mixtapes i still buy, i might d/l stuff like the Chuuch tapes but I won't spend money on 'em

Gotta mention Primo's tapes, he made sum really dope ones with alot of mixin, a dope selection of tracks and without spoilin tracks by screamin his name as if anybody gave a fuck
Title: Re:Mixtapes - Anyone else tired of this???
Post by: OpTiCaL on January 29, 2004, 07:28:29 AM
Yep the welcome to the chuuch proved that...


...i like some mixtape tho ...a couple of dj still got it ...


...overall they suck lately ...but its the most commercial (surprise surprise) that are the worst.
Title: Re:Mixtapes - Anyone else tired of this???
Post by: nando on January 30, 2004, 11:10:17 AM
Mixtapes are good....you can drop music without worrying about bullshit label politics etc... also it gives the artist an idea of what fans wanna hear on the actual album. Id rather see a shitload of mixtapes everywhere then crappy ass albums on the shelves.

Plus when a artist flows over someone elses beat it gives u an alternative to the original...and it also puts a rappers skills on the spot, cause the production isnt their own