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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: Mick a/k/a Mickaveli_#1 on February 17, 2004, 03:58:12 AM
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From an unamed source close to tha row!
Danny Boy actually LEFT Death Row Records because of Tha Realest! That is FACT, he was so close to 2Pac that he didnt like it when Tha Realest came in and started acting like Pac and acting like he was the best thing to ever happen to Tha Row. Tha Realest came and tried to take over! DB left the label because of HIM! They were NEVER friends! In fact if I remember right, DB had left Tha Row when Stand Strong was released on Chronic 2000, the song was written by Realest and Jewell, not Danny Stewart. BUT if Tha Realest did use DB's vocals then is was because the label set it up, and DB has KIDS, so if it would bring in a little money, he would most prolly be cool with them to release it even though he never liked the dude.
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lol @ unnnamed
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Spelt it wrong ---> Un-Named ;)
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From an unamed source close to tha row!
u see why? ;)
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danny boy left cuz he was broke & suge was in jail. nobody cared about danny boy. i doubt that tha realest was the real reason. thats absurd IMO. danny was still paid by the label and u think he gave a fuck bout all the money cuz jevon jones tried to take over? cmon ..lol
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why did choclate bandit leave again?
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why did choclate bandit leave again?
no album, no future, ...? like oftb. u cant compare suge´s "son" with chocolate bandit.
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nah.... it was because of conflicts with some guy with a gigantic ego who thought he ran the place.. guess who?
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nah.... it was because of conflicts with some guy with a gigantic ego who thought he ran the place.. guess who?
top dogg? ;) yea i know that but its easy to say tha realest is the reason for leavin IMO. most of the artists at death row at this time had no future at the label. tha realest worked hard, made a gang of tracks, was suges mouthpiece. at some point he was the no1 arists at death row. thats no lie. maybe other inmates re envious?
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no not top dogg.. lol.. saw someone post was tha realest...
but ya know.. 2 sides to every story..
still dont understand the diff between chocolate bandit and junior knight.. some stuff makkes it sound like they're the same person.. some not..
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JR Knight
Chocolate Bandit
K-9
Danny Boy
All left because of Tha Realest. That's FACT! He was only cool with Top Dogg & VK. His own peoples from Texas! VK came with Tha Realest.
Ogsuesone :- Danny Boy left because of Tha Realest. He tried to act like the big star of the label when his album wasn't the highlighted release when Suge got out. He was only an artist in development. & that statement is from a very reliable source kid
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no not top dogg.. lol.. saw someone post was tha realest...
but ya know.. 2 sides to every story..
still dont understand the diff between chocolate bandit and junior knight.. some stuff makkes it sound like they're the same person.. some not..
lol, seer, top dogg was tongue in cheek. i knew that u talked about tha realest.
oh i thought chocolate bandit and junior knight re the same person. i remember the easy to be a soldier lyrics right now. but actually i never cared about him that much. so i dunno exactly. but wasnt chocolate bandit leavin the company, primarily because of his unwillingness to be confrontational with Row enemies. i read that on some website back n the days. 8)
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that may also be true...
whichever way.. chocolate bandit went back into sports, believe he played baseball for a canadian team, he also redid the song 'whats the deal' that was pulled from gang related and put out a whole album on another label.. at least he got put out.
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JR Knight
Chocolate Bandit
K-9
Danny Boy
All left because of Tha Realest. That's FACT! He was only cool with Top Dogg & VK. His own peoples from Texas! VK came with Tha Realest.
Ogsuesone :- Danny Boy left because of Tha Realest. He tried to act like the big star of the label when his album wasn't the highlighted release when Suge got out. He was only an artist in development. & that statement is from a very reliable source kid
i dont know your so called sources buddy but if u think thats the reason then im with u. tha realest was an AID yea and danny boy was nuthin but a broke boy at this time.
and yea haha i remember those artists in development days....lol... when valentine, pb and skg re takin over the westcoast rap scene...lol
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mmm skg ;)
(ok just nice tits.. lol)
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mmm skg ;)
(ok just nice tits.. lol)
haha yea big uns.... a pretty nice eye catcher on the older dr website.
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Thing is, VK and Valentine had massive potential. & yeh DB was struggling for money at that point I would assume. Fact is, Suge must have thought the massive fan base of 2Pac would idealy fall for the similarities that Tha Realest had to 2Pac and would imagine that the fans would then choose to support rather than hate. It didn't work out like that. & Tha Realest didn't get on with too many artists on the label. He rolled with his own crew.
People say the hatred for Chocolate Bandit was because he was lazy and he was the main reason the 2Pac bootlegs came out on the streets - fact is the 2pac material circulated months before chocolate bandit had even stepped foot in the studios. He was known to be a bit of a back stabber - talking about people behind their backs etc. I can relate, because I've known quite a few people like that in my time.
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^ thats basically what the realest said about him in his diss wasnt it
i'm sure there was some kind of incident between them, and think a helicopter was involved.. i cant remember what it was or where i heard it tho.. someone must know.
DB was out on his own in chicago, was broke and no one would touch him for fear of suge getting involved with.. cant blame em really.. shame for db tho.
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mmm skg ;)
(ok just nice tits.. lol)
yeah.... 8)
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danny boy is a fucking r&b singer. i can't take beefs involving r&b singers seriously. danny boy needs to whip somebody's ass; and cameras need to catch that shit and broadcast it live via satelite before i take any beef involving danny boy seriously.
shit reminds me of when eminem was beefing with christina aguilera or britney spears or whatever. how the fuck do you have beef with a bubble gum pop singer?
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danny boy is a fucking r&b singer. i can't take beefs involving r&b singers seriously. danny boy needs to whip somebody's ass; and cameras need to catch that shit and broadcast it live via satelite before i take any beef involving danny boy seriously.
shit reminds me of when eminem was beefing with christina aguilera or britney spears or whatever. how the fuck do you have beef with a bubble gum pop singer?
That's one of the most ignorant things i've ever heard here, boy. Canibus aint a gangsta, he aint a thug. Yet, he could DESTROY Tha Realest and ANYBODY in the West with a mic and without wipping somebody's ass. Please stop with those ignorant comments. We're talking about MUSIC. Danny Boy blamed Tha Realest cause he was close to Pac, and he didnt like the way Tha Realest was/is disrespecting him. You dont have to be Suge Knight or a Crip to dislike someone or to defend the legacy of a homie. PLUS.. Eminem dissed Christina Aguilera with no reasons. DB had a reason to dislike Tha Realest. So also the example you made is totally wrong.
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Eminem had a reason for dissing Christina... but never mind..
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Oh c'mon now.. ;D
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well i'd be real pissed if some dumb blonde - who wa supposed to be his friend at the time - spurted out secret personal info on a TV show.
do you even know what you're talking about?
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Ok. She did it. And what he did? He made a gay video making fun of her? Man if they were close, he should have handled it face to face, talking with her. I mean the fact that you got skills doesnt mean you have to use it against everybody and for every reasons. Shit use it against Canibus, against Benzino, against Death Row, against everybody who's dissing you. Beat them lyrically, with the mic. Use the skills. But please... dont make fun of a girl (and other pop singers) in a gay video........ c'mon! ::)
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That's one of the most ignorant things i've ever heard here, boy.
do i win a prize then? i should get a prize or something damn it.
Canibus aint a gangsta, he aint a thug. Yet, he could DESTROY Tha Realest and ANYBODY in the West with a mic and without wipping somebody's ass. Please stop with those ignorant comments.
canibus couldn't destroy ras kass or crooked i. he couldn't destroy dresta, or the lady of rage. i doubt he could destroy bad azz. i've only heard one diss track from canibus, "second round knocc out" and it wasn't some transcendent shit or anything like that. get off that guy's dick.
and you are probably misunderstanding me.
it's this simple. if the realest were to retaliate with a full song, talk shit about whipping danny boy's ass or threaten him with gun play or anything like that. that shit would be silly. that would be like publicly threatening a school girl or something. what the fuck is danny boy supposed to do? sing some ill shit? the fact that the realest is getting dissed by r&b singers damages his credibility as is. at most i can see him spitting one line, mocking danny's sexuality. that's about it. anything else would only damage his credibility further.
We're talking about MUSIC. Danny Boy blamed Tha Realest
he called the realest fake. that's basically questioning his manhood right there.
Eminem dissed Christina Aguilera with no reasons.
how the fuck do you have beef with a 15 year old girl? that's all i'm saying. eminem portrays himself as some sort of bad ass criminal psycho...etc, yet he's taking this beef with some 15 year old pop singer seriously. silly shit. beef with n'sync and moby? it's just silly. how the fuck do you have beef with a boy band?
DB had a reason to dislike Tha Realest.
danny boy is a fucking r&b singer. there's no way the realest should be paying that guy any serious attention at all. if danny boy runs into the realest without suge or security or whatever behind him, is he going to say shit then? or is he going to run?
at most, the realest should question db's sexuality, and bring it to tha row or suge if he wants to address this "beef" seriously. because that's the only credible thing backing danny boy's comments.
if some 5 year old kid is running off at the mouth to you, are you going to slap the kid in the mouth? or are you going to step to the kid's dad and tell that guy to shut his kid up? that's what i'm saying.
the realest needs to do this shit just like pac did when lil kim was talking shit:
"go tell them bustaz up at bad boy records,
that trick's got a big mouth...bustaz better check it"
didn't even say her name.
the realest needs to handle this situation just like that.
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LOL at Dresta, Rage & Bad Azz destroying Canibus in a battle. C'mon now! But ok, that's just my opinion and your opinion. The point was that you dont need to be a thug to be a lyricist to diss someone. And you named Bad Azz, Crooked I, Rage.... and they aint thugs. So the point was correct. Other than that, i feel you when you say it was gay for Eminem to diss a girl or N'Sync. Whatever they did. I think the problem is when you say "he called the realest fake. that's basically questioning his manhood right there". I think he was just referring to Pac. He was Pac's homeboy, he didnt like the way Tha Realest was acting, he didnt like the way he was disrespecting Pac, but since Suge did, he had to make his business. Now that Tha Realest is out the label, he simply expressed his feelings on him. That's all. It's not a diss, he didnt questioned his street cred, but with "fake" he means he's a biter, ImO. Of Pac. So he can say that, and he doesnt have to call his daddy (Suge) to def close Tha Realest's mouth forever. Cause everybody can say something like that, if it's true. Even a girl or N'Sync.
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And you named Bad Azz, Crooked I, Rage.... and they aint thugs.
i dont know about rage, but crooked i and bad azz are from the streets, and they been in and out of jail, hustlin on the streets , sellin drugs, and that type of shit.
why do you say they aint thugs?.... they might not be in a set like the insanes or the 20's, but that dont mean they are not thugs.
if they aint thugs, then 2pac aint either. he never joined no gang, but everyone says he is the biggest thug. i dont say that he aint a thug, coz i believe he had a hard life grindin on the streets , which is exactly what bad & crook been doin.
plus bad azz even said that he was gang bangin, even tho he wasnt rtc or icg . the lowlifes has been officially made a set for quite a while now, so yes bad's set is LLC (low life crip) and he is a thug.
someone that aint a thug would be biggy smalls a.k.a. notorious BIG, who came from a good home, and went to a private school
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LOL at Dresta, Rage & Bad Azz destroying Canibus in a battle.
don't sleep on tha lady of rage & the d-r-e. rage can match canibus metaphor 4 metaphor. dre has a tight ass flow.
The point was that you dont need to be a thug to be a lyricist to diss someone. And you named Rage.... and she aint a thug. So the point was correct.
there's a difference between two lyricists battling to test their skill, or two lyricists just clownin' each other because one doesn't like the others style; and a personal beef that is partially played out in the public, in the media and on wax.
not every beef is the same.
looking at the comments and the reactions, this is clearly a personal beef.
that is what i'm saying. and with danny boy being a r&b singer, i don't see why the realest would take him seriously.
It's not a diss, he didnt questioned his street cred, but with "fake" he means he's a biter, ImO. Of Pac. So he can say that, and he doesnt have to call his daddy (Suge) to def close Tha Realest's mouth forever. Cause everybody can say something like that, if it's true. Even a girl or N'Sync.
i interpretted it as a diss, alot of people in this forum that have posted have interpretted it as a diss. most importantly, the reaction that was quoted from the realest's camp seems to have interpretted it as a diss.
a) i disagree with your interpretation of danny boy's intent
b) at this point it's a moot point, because the statements have been interpretted as a diss. regardless of what danny boy might have meant, it's been taken as a diss.
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So according to you.. Tha Realest didnt have to take it as a beef, since it's from a R&B singer, and he cant take it seriously. So in both the ways TR is wrong, ImO.
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So why did Tha Realest need to diss Jada Pinket, Will Smith, Eric Benet (R&B Singer) etc etc etc etc in FUCK HOLLYWOOD?
If Tha Realest is such a tough guy why doesnt he go after some OG Gang bangers
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^because its just music
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SO.. Danny Boy CAN diss him and his music.
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So according to you.. Tha Realest didnt have to take it as a beef, since it's from a R&B singer, and he cant take it seriously.
danny boy is noone to take seriously, that is correct.
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So why did Tha Realest need to diss Jada Pinket, Will Smith, Eric Benet (R&B Singer) etc etc etc etc in FUCK HOLLYWOOD?
that song was silly because the realest apparently watches et or whatever and knows all that hollywood gossip. plus the beat was wack as fuck.
however, you've got it backwards. there's basically a pecking order here. if the realest wants to clown these r&b cats, or those actors; for the most part he's free to do that. he's basically bullying them around. for a r&b cat (like danny boy) to try talk shit about the realest, that r&b cat should be out of their league.
really. who the fuck is eric benet? a muthafucka can stand right in front of eric benet and say whatever the fuck they want to say. eric benet isn't going to do shit but walk away if he's smart.
but if a muthafucka jumps in front of any muthafucka with credibility and starts talking shit, i expect punches to be thrown. and i'm assuming the realest is a credible individual.
if the realest runs into danny boy, i expect him to slap old boy in the mouth for his comments. but for the realest to dedicate anything more than one line to responding to db would be silly.
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No man, i still think you dont have a point. Danny Boy is a R&B artist, you right. But he's Suge Knight's kid. He's on Death Row, a gangsta label, surrounded by thugs and Bloods. He aint the typical R&B singer.. He's something different. Cause if somebody touches Danny Boy, you know he's dead and burried already. So, let's make it like that: if Tha Realest is smart enought, he'll accept it and walk away. If he's half the thug he says he is, he'll start a real beef, and he'll take it on a personal level. Against Danny Boy (Suge Knight's kid) and his crew. My 5 cent Tha Realest will just let Enigma speak for himself and he'll not diss Danny Boy. My reason? Cause he's scared as fuck. Prove me i'm wrong. If he'll diss him, directly or indirectly, you'll win this conversation. If Crooked I will diss Danny Boy, directly or indirectly, you'll win this conversation. I really think he's just scared. Fuck R&B! Touch Suge Knight's kid! 8)
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he's Suge Knight's kid. He's on Death Row, a gangsta label, surrounded by thugs and Bloods. He aint the typical R&B singer.. He's something different. Cause if somebody touches Danny Boy, you know he's dead and burried already.
no, i don't know that. suge doesn't have clout like that. suge only punks these cats in the game that have little credibility. if the realest has anyone legitimate behind him he need not worry about suge. there's alot of cats in the game that suge doesn't even attempt to push around. so no, i disagree.
So, let's make it like that: if Tha Realest is smart enought, he'll accept it and walk away. If he's half the thug he says he is, he'll start a real beef, and he'll take it on a personal level. Against Danny Boy (Suge Knight's kid) and his crew. My 5 cent Tha Realest will just let Enigma speak for himself and he'll not diss Danny Boy. My reason? Cause he's scared as fuck. Prove me i'm wrong. If he'll diss him, directly or indirectly, you'll win this conversation. If Crooked I will diss Danny Boy, directly or indirectly, you'll win this conversation. I really think he's just scared. Fuck R&B! Touch Suge Knight's kid! 8)
hey, i think i've already won this conversation :)
because we both agree that danny boy is insignificant, and the only credibility behind his words is this idea that "he's suge knight's kid". and in that sense, we are agreeing with you in 100%. if the realest is half as real as he claims he is, he'll look past danny boy and bring it straight to tha row. something like "suge: keep your hoes in check or i'll check them for you". he only needs one line like that to respond to this danny boy situation.
and danny boy did give crooked i some credit in the interview. i don't think db dissed crook in there. he said some slick shit at first, but later on he gave crook his props.
but again. i agree 100% that the realest needs to look past db and bring it straight to tha row if he truly is "real" at all.
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Yeah. But i doubt he will. We will see. 8)
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Tha Realest is tight wiv Shevvy, Reggie & Mob James! wouldnt wanna fk with any of those lemme tell u
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LOLOLOL SSCC FUCCED WITH UM.U GO ASSK RGGIE WHAT HE THINK OR BGDRAGGON LOLOL.REGGIE WRIGHT AKA COP KILLA FROM BH BOUNTY HUNTERSS FOR THA YOUNGENS AND MOB JAMES FROM MOB PIRU NOW WHATSS THAT GOT TOO DO WITH THAREALESST CUZ THAT NICCA FROM TX AND CLAIM MOB CAUSE HE FINNA DIE AS 2PACCS BROTHER
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about Danny Boy being considered Suge's son, shit's very true. They are both tight and Suge basically raised him for a couple of years. so yea, anyone that fucks with Danny Boy, Suge will probably take personal. Ask the Wu-Tang affiliate that got his ass whooped by the Death Row entourage for trying to start shit with Danny Boy @ Club 662 in 95-96