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Title: If KanyeWest album is a classic then...? [Poll]
Post by: JTSimon on February 18, 2004, 06:30:08 AM
Then GRODT is a legendary classic album  ;D

Better lyrics, instrumentals, no chipmunks / gay skits.

(http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000084T18.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg)
1  Intro (0:06)          
2  What Up Gangsta (2:59)          
3  Patiently Waiting (4:48)          
4  Many Men (Wish Death) (4:16)          
5  In da Club (3:13)          
6  High All the Time (4:29)          
7  Heat (4:14)          
8  If I Can't (3:16)          
9  Blood Hound (4:00)          
10  Back Down (4:03)          
11  P.I.M.P. (4:09)          
12  Like My Style (3:13)          
13  Pool Lil Rich (3:19)          
14  21 Questions (3:44)          
15  Don't Push Me (4:08)          
16  Gotta Make It to Heaven (4:00)          
Bonus
17  Wanksta (3:39)          
18  U Not Like Me (4:15)          
19  Life's on the Line (3:38)  

 
Title: Re:If KanyeWest album is a classic then...? [Poll]
Post by: N-Sane Brain on February 18, 2004, 06:33:28 AM
Fifty's album wasn't bad but Kanye's is definitely way better. Disagree!
Title: Re:If KanyeWest album is a classic then...? [Poll]
Post by: JTSimon on February 18, 2004, 06:44:51 AM
Fifty's album wasn't bad but Kanye's is definitely way better. Disagree!

Damn you didn't have to make it red  :( :-\










 ;D Dipset

lol @ people on this forum that were trashing 50 for his lyrics...and somehow overlook Kanye's poor lyrics  ;D and every1 has to show ID to get in Sam's Club...I use my mommies ID we look alike.


Title: Re:If KanyeWest album is a classic then...? [Poll]
Post by: PLANT on February 18, 2004, 06:55:56 AM
Man you gota be kidding me.


Im not even hating on 50, I like his album and his group, but "College Dropout" is far superior to "GRODT"....

The sound, the lyrics, the flow and the consistancy of the Kanye West album are all greater than 50's record.

If 50 didnt have help from Eminem, Dr. Dre, Nate and Snoop Dogg, he woulndt have been near as successful.

Now look at Kanye, does all his whole fuckin album with little guest spots, make every fuckin beat on the whole record!  Thats insane!  And the best part is he made an album the way HE wanted to, and created a sound that no one else is coming close to IMO....
Title: Re:If KanyeWest album is a classic then...? [Poll]
Post by: West C. Connected on February 18, 2004, 08:33:12 AM
I always thought Kanye wasn't the dopest lyricist with

"Awww, did he get his feelings hurt?
Nawww, he got titties under his shirt!"

or

"I'm the only one eating, shut your piehole!"

But his album was original. ;)
And it had a great feel to it.

But yeah, I liked 50's album too, but Kanye's album was so original and so fresh I just love it. 8)
Title: Re:If KanyeWest album is a classic then...? [Poll]
Post by: eS El Duque on February 18, 2004, 08:42:31 AM
I agree  ;D
Title: Re:If KanyeWest album is a classic then...? [Poll]
Post by: JTSimon on February 18, 2004, 08:42:35 AM
Man you gota be kidding me.


Im not even hating on 50, I like his album and his group, but "College Dropout" is far superior to "GRODT"....

The sound, the lyrics, the flow and the consistancy of the Kanye West album are all greater than 50's record.

If 50 didnt have help from Eminem, Dr. Dre, Nate and Snoop Dogg, he woulndt have been near as successful.

Now look at Kanye, does all his whole fuckin album with little guest spots, make every fuckin beat on the whole record!  Thats insane!  And the best part is he made an album the way HE wanted to, and created a sound that no one else is coming close to IMO....

02-kanye_west-we_dont_care-rns
03-kanye_west-graduation_day-rns (1:22)
04-kanye_west-all_falls_down_(feat_syleena_johnson)-rns
05-kanye_west-ill_fly_away-rns creative  :P
06-kanye_west-spaceship_(feat_glc_and_consequence)-rns
07-kanye_west-jesus_walks-rns
08-kanye_west-never_let_me_down_(feat_jayz_and_j_ivy)-rns
09-kanye_west-get_em_high_(feat_talib_kweli_and_common)-rns
11-kanye_west-the_new_workout_plan-rns
12-kanye_west-slow_jamz_(feat_twista_and_jamie_foxx)-rns
13-kanye_west-breathe_in_breathe_out_(feat_ludacris)-rns
15-kanye_west-school_spirit-rns [Moby type rip]
18-kanye_west-two_words
19-kanye_west-through_the_wire-rns, _(feat_mos_def_freeway_and_the_harlem_boys_choir)-rns
20-kanye_west-family_business-rns  [Moby type rip]
21-kanye_west-last_call-rns [filler]

Your so infatuated with Kanye West your unconsciously making up shit.

Little guest spots...20-30% or so of the album is sang by guest.^^

make every fuckin beat on the whole record!...lol what about the beats I heard b4 this album was made  ;D

I bet Kanye West has like 20,000 mp3's on his computer.

So sad when you get out rapped by Jay-Z/Talib Kweli/Common on your own album  :-[     ;D

If Kanye West didnt have help from Jay-Z and the Roc-a-Fella family he woulnd't have been near as successful.
Title: Re:If KanyeWest album is a classic then...? [Poll]
Post by: JTSimon on February 18, 2004, 08:47:55 AM

But his album was original. ;)
And it had a great feel to it.

But yeah, I liked 50's album too, but Kanye's album was so original and so fresh I just love it. 8)

lol are you living in Asia...because this album is faaaaaaaaaaaaaar from original.

Its like I have heard every track/chorus b4 and I'm not a musichead  ;D ;)



 I Feel for You (1984)
· Epiphany: The Best of Chaka Khan, Volume One (1996)
 
 
LYRICS  I look in your eyes and I can see
We’ve loved so dangerously
You’re not trusting your heart to anyone
You tell me you’re gonna play it smart
We’re through before we start
But I believe that we’ve only just begun

When it’s this good, there’s no saying no
I want you so, I’m ready to go

Chorus:
Through the fire
To the limit, to the wall
For a chance to be with you
I’d gladly risk it all
Through the fire
Through whatever, come what may
For a chance at loving you
I’d take it all the way
Right down to the wire
Even through the fire

I know you’re afraid of what you feel
You still need time to heal
And I can help if you’ll only let me try
You touch me and something in me knew
What I could have with you
Well I’m not ready to kiss that dream goodbye

When it’s this sweet, there’s no saying no
I need you so, I’m ready to go

Chorus

Through the test of time

Chorus

Through the fire, to the limit
Through the fire, through whatever
Through the fire, to the limit
Through the fire, through whatever
 
Title: Re:If KanyeWest album is a classic then...? [Poll]
Post by: West C. Connected on February 18, 2004, 08:52:44 AM
lol I don't live in Asia but I think the album's original.
Just the whole vibe to it is dope. Real fresh and in my opinion just what Hip Hop needs right now.
But yeah, everybody's got a different opinion so I respect yours. ;)

Throughhhh theeee wiiiire..

The video was dope as fuck too. :)
Title: Re:If KanyeWest album is a classic then...? [Poll]
Post by: JTSimon on February 18, 2004, 09:02:03 AM
lol I don't live in Asia but I think the album's original.
Just the whole vibe to it is dope. Real fresh and in my opinion just what Hip Hop needs right now.
But yeah, everybody's got a different opinion so I respect yours. ;)

Throughhhh theeee wiiiire..

The video was dope as fuck too. :)

lol my bad...your always talking about Asian pride  ;D
Title: Re:If KanyeWest album is a classic then...? [Poll]
Post by: PLANT on February 18, 2004, 09:06:50 AM
Man you gota be kidding me.


Im not even hating on 50, I like his album and his group, but "College Dropout" is far superior to "GRODT"....

The sound, the lyrics, the flow and the consistancy of the Kanye West album are all greater than 50's record.

If 50 didnt have help from Eminem, Dr. Dre, Nate and Snoop Dogg, he woulndt have been near as successful.

Now look at Kanye, does all his whole fuckin album with little guest spots, make every fuckin beat on the whole record!  Thats insane!  And the best part is he made an album the way HE wanted to, and created a sound that no one else is coming close to IMO....

02-kanye_west-we_dont_care-rns
03-kanye_west-graduation_day-rns (1:22)
04-kanye_west-all_falls_down_(feat_syleena_johnson)-rns
05-kanye_west-ill_fly_away-rns creative  :P
06-kanye_west-spaceship_(feat_glc_and_consequence)-rns
07-kanye_west-jesus_walks-rns
08-kanye_west-never_let_me_down_(feat_jayz_and_j_ivy)-rns
09-kanye_west-get_em_high_(feat_talib_kweli_and_common)-rns
11-kanye_west-the_new_workout_plan-rns
12-kanye_west-slow_jamz_(feat_twista_and_jamie_foxx)-rns
13-kanye_west-breathe_in_breathe_out_(feat_ludacris)-rns
15-kanye_west-school_spirit-rns [Moby type rip]
18-kanye_west-two_words
19-kanye_west-through_the_wire-rns, _(feat_mos_def_freeway_and_the_harlem_boys_choir)-rns
20-kanye_west-family_business-rns  [Moby type rip]
21-kanye_west-last_call-rns [filler]

Your so infatuated with Kanye West your unconsciously making up shit.

Little guest spots...20-30% or so of the album is sang by guest.^^

make every fuckin beat on the whole record!...lol what about the beats I heard b4 this album was made  ;D

I bet Kanye West has like 20,000 mp3's on his computer.

So sad when you get out rapped by Jay-Z/Talib Kweli/Common on your own album  :-[     ;D

If Kanye West didnt have help from Jay-Z and the Roc-a-Fella family he woulnd't have been near as successful.

Well whatever man, keep your opinion and Ime keep mine....

To each his own right....

If you really wanted to compare the 2 artists so bad, why didnt you just make a "Which album is better Poll" and see what the results are....


Anyways, keep bangin that 50 ;)
Title: Re:If KanyeWest album is a classic then...? [Poll]
Post by: JTSimon on February 18, 2004, 09:12:32 AM
We are not comparing the albums.

I'm just pointing out that College Dropout is an ok album but not classic.


Title: Re:If KanyeWest album is a classic then...? [Poll]
Post by: white Boy on February 18, 2004, 11:48:29 AM
Quote
So sad when you get out rapped by Jay-Z/Talib Kweli/Common on your own album      
... its sad to have 3 AMAZING rappers outrap you...

Anyway, i like kanyes better than 50s, its so much better musicaly, he has better lyrics, and its more original, (50 put out a gangsta album, talkin ab out getin shot, guns, bitches and money)
Title: Re:If KanyeWest album is a classic then...? [Poll]
Post by: PLANT on February 18, 2004, 11:52:34 AM
Another thing, please dont tell me 50 Cent woulndt get outrapped by Talib, Common and JayZ..... ::)

Actually I honestly think Kanye held his own with those guys.  On the song with Talib and Common, It was a concept type song where each rapper played a part and went along with the story lines, so they werent really trying to showcase there skills....As far as the song with JayZ goes, Kanye held his own IMO.
Title: Re:If KanyeWest album is a classic then...? [Poll]
Post by: SGV on February 18, 2004, 12:54:23 PM
What's worse is getting out rapped by Lloyd Banks. LOL! Jigger, Kweli and Common are 3 ACCOMPLISHED LYRICISTS. It's an honor to rap with them. Lloyd Banks is a boring version of Fabolous. You're funny.

Please man. Release the dick, 50 has enough cock jockies. Kanye may not be too complex, but he has a meaning behind his lyrics. Something 50 doesn't. Kanye is far from wack, lyrically. Listen to "Jesus Walks," "All Falls Down," "Never Let Me Down," Kanye spits some crazy shit. Kanye is a rapper first, and he's still years ahead of 50. Ain't that sad.

02-kanye_west-we_dont_care-rns <----Hot
03-kanye_west-graduation_day-rns (1:22)
04-kanye_west-all_falls_down_(feat_syleena_johnson)-rns <---Perfect
05-kanye_west-ill_fly_away-rns <---Tight
06-kanye_west-spaceship_(feat_glc_and_consequence)-rns <---Perfect
07-kanye_west-jesus_walks-rns <---Perfect
08-kanye_west-never_let_me_down_(feat_jayz_and_j_ivy)-rns <---Perfect
09-kanye_west-get_em_high_(feat_talib_kweli_and_common)-rns <---Perfect
11-kanye_west-the_new_workout_plan-rns <---Funny
12-kanye_west-slow_jamz_(feat_twista_and_jamie_foxx)-rns <---Perfect
13-kanye_west-breathe_in_breathe_out_(feat_ludacris)-rns <---Filler
15-kanye_west-school_spirit-rns <---OK
18-kanye_west-two_words (feat_mos_def_freeway_and_the_harlem_boys_choir)-rns <---Perfect
19-kanye_west-through_the_wire-rns, <---Perfect
20-kanye_west-family_business-rns <---Perfect
21-kanye_west-last_call-rns <---Perfect

Not a classic or even perfect album, but much better than ANYTHING 50 has done.

I dug the production on Kanyeezy's album, too. It varied, unlike 50's. Post up some lyrics from 50 since you SWEAR that he has amazing lyrics.
Title: Re:If KanyeWest album is a classic then...? [Poll]
Post by: white Boy on February 18, 2004, 05:02:43 PM
^^^ i dont think breath in breath out is a filler, its just his less serious song, and he shows he can rap about money also, but throws in "first nigger with a benz and a backpack"
Title: Re:If KanyeWest album is a classic then...? [Poll]
Post by: teecee on February 18, 2004, 07:18:59 PM
Man, this thread is LAME!  Seriously, the albums are NOTHING ALIKE, not at all.  If you dont like the "chipmunk" shit, fine.  But on a lot of songs, Kanye actually says something meaningful, whereas 50 just talks about being a P.I.M.P., or being In Da Club, or being "High All the Time".  50s album is good for what it is, Kanyes is also good for what it is.  I wouldnt personally call either classics, although who knows what the future holds.  One thing is i would call In Da Club a classic song.....but the album?  THats tough....
Title: Re:If KanyeWest album is a classic then...? [Poll]
Post by: JTSimon on February 18, 2004, 07:38:00 PM
Man, this thread is LAME!  Seriously, the albums are NOTHING ALIKE, not at all.  If you dont like the "chipmunk" shit, fine.  But on a lot of songs, Kanye actually says something meaningful, whereas 50 just talks about being a P.I.M.P., or being In Da Club, or being "High All the Time".  50s album is good for what it is, Kanyes is also good for what it is.  I wouldnt personally call either classics, although who knows what the future holds.  One thing is i would call In Da Club a classic song.....but the album?  THats tough....

lol what I said was if KanyeWest album is considered a classic...then GRODT should also be considered classic status for what the album is worth. I agree both albums are not classics.


GRODT could have been a classic if 50 included all his dope tracks like Magic Stick/Places to Go/Bad News/I'm Soldier.

 ;D now thats classic

1  Intro (0:06)          
2  What Up Gangsta (2:59)          
3  Patiently Waiting (4:48)          
4  Many Men (Wish Death) (4:16)          
5  In da Club (3:13)          
6  High All the Time (4:29)          
7  Heat (4:14)          
8  If I Can't (3:16)          
9  Blood Hound (4:00)          
10  Back Down (4:03)          
11  Bad News
12  Like My Style (3:13)          
13  Pool Lil Rich (3:19)          
14  Magic Stick          
15  Don't Push Me (4:08)          
16  Gotta Make It to Heaven (4:00)          
Bonus
17  Wanksta (3:39)          
18  Places to Go          
19  I'm Soldier


Title: Re:If KanyeWest album is a classic then...? [Poll]
Post by: white Boy on February 18, 2004, 07:59:00 PM
^^^ no... it still wouldnt have been a classic...
Title: Re:If KanyeWest album is a classic then...? [Poll]
Post by: We Fly High on February 18, 2004, 08:16:41 PM
yo sgv, it wasnt john monopoly, its john legend. i saw a few pictures of john legend on some internet, and its him.
Title: Re:If KanyeWest album is a classic then...? [Poll]
Post by: Don Jacob on February 18, 2004, 08:37:10 PM
how the fuck is kanye west's album a classic!?

GRODT isn't even a classic!!

listen the only muh fuckers who released anything relatively close to a classic within the genre of hip hop was outkast


college drop out is a 3.5/5
Title: Re:If KanyeWest album is a classic then...? [Poll]
Post by: Don Breezio on February 18, 2004, 08:40:27 PM
the skits alone keep college dropout from being a classic...

the words "50 Cent" & "Classic" should not go in the same sentence...fuck the words "50 Cent" and "alive" should not be in the same sentence
Title: Re:If KanyeWest album is a classic then...? [Poll]
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on February 25, 2004, 11:44:52 PM
listen the only muh fuckers who released anything relatively close to a classic within the genre of hip hop was outkast




Wow...So you're denying "Doggystyle," "The Chronic," "All Eyez On Me," "Illmatic," etc. as classics?
Title: Re:If KanyeWest album is a classic then...? [Poll]
Post by: LyRiCaL_G on February 26, 2004, 01:29:36 PM
^^lol word, i dunno if whitey was talkin about jus this in the past year or within hiphop period, but if so, thats the dumbest shit i ever heard.......

by the way, both college dropout n grodt are dope albums
Title: Re:If KanyeWest album is a classic then...? [Poll]
Post by: JTSimon on February 26, 2004, 01:49:59 PM
listen the only muh fuckers who released anything relatively close to a classic within the genre of hip hop was outkast




Wow...So you're denying "Doggystyle," "The Chronic," "All Eyez On Me," "Illmatic," etc. as classics?

lol since when is Dogglestyle/The Chronic/All Eyez On me/Illmatic hip hop? I thought they were rap.

p.s. Outkast music is trash.
Title: Re:If KanyeWest album is a classic then...? [Poll]
Post by: pappy on February 26, 2004, 04:03:07 PM
What's worse is getting out rapped by Lloyd Banks. LOL! Jigger, Kweli and Common are 3 ACCOMPLISHED LYRICISTS. It's an honor to rap with them. Lloyd Banks is a boring version of Fabolous. You're funny.

Please man. Release the dick, 50 has enough cock jockies. Kanye may not be too complex, but he has a meaning behind his lyrics. Something 50 doesn't. Kanye is far from wack, lyrically. Listen to "Jesus Walks," "All Falls Down," "Never Let Me Down," Kanye spits some crazy shit. Kanye is a rapper first, and he's still years ahead of 50. Ain't that sad.

02-kanye_west-we_dont_care-rns <----Hot
03-kanye_west-graduation_day-rns (1:22)
04-kanye_west-all_falls_down_(feat_syleena_johnson)-rns <---Perfect
05-kanye_west-ill_fly_away-rns <---Tight
06-kanye_west-spaceship_(feat_glc_and_consequence)-rns <---Perfect
07-kanye_west-jesus_walks-rns <---Perfect
08-kanye_west-never_let_me_down_(feat_jayz_and_j_ivy)-rns <---Perfect
09-kanye_west-get_em_high_(feat_talib_kweli_and_common)-rns <---Perfect
11-kanye_west-the_new_workout_plan-rns <---Funny
12-kanye_west-slow_jamz_(feat_twista_and_jamie_foxx)-rns <---Perfect
13-kanye_west-breathe_in_breathe_out_(feat_ludacris)-rns <---Filler
15-kanye_west-school_spirit-rns <---OK
18-kanye_west-two_words (feat_mos_def_freeway_and_the_harlem_boys_choir)-rns <---Perfect
19-kanye_west-through_the_wire-rns, <---Perfect
20-kanye_west-family_business-rns <---Perfect
21-kanye_west-last_call-rns <---Perfect

Not a classic or even perfect album, but much better than ANYTHING 50 has done.

I dug the production on Kanyeezy's album, too. It varied, unlike 50's. Post up some lyrics from 50 since you SWEAR that he has amazing lyrics.

holy shit i find myself agreeing with SGV lol
Title: Re:If KanyeWest album is a classic then...? [Poll]
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on February 26, 2004, 05:42:53 PM
listen the only muh fuckers who released anything relatively close to a classic within the genre of hip hop was outkast




Wow...So you're denying "Doggystyle," "The Chronic," "All Eyez On Me," "Illmatic," etc. as classics?

lol since when is Dogglestyle/The Chronic/All Eyez On me/Illmatic hip hop? I thought they were rap.

p.s. Outkast music is trash.


I hope that whole statement was one big joke...