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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: ACGRUNDY on March 01, 2004, 10:45:03 AM
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LOL @ the stupid ass fans on here that have been ripped off countless times by dpg recordz, and continue to believe the bullshit they talk about, and keep paying them. Kronik has to even make up news to keep you groupies interested in dpg recordz because they can't release any quality albums. They just hype up albums and then don't drop them. Kronk, DPG Recordz, and Daz are fake as fuck. They are just ripping you kids off for your money. How many fuckin bullshit lies have they told you kids on here? Its countless. I'll tell ya this, DPG recordz will never get another nickel out of my pocket, fuck em! If they don't put up the crooked I album for download it just goes to show that they don't give one fuck about their fans. All talk and no walk.
I posted that at the dpg forum, but someone erased it. I hope none of you with any sense ever support them again. They don't even give refunds to the people who they ripped off. they just make excuses. dpg recordz is a sad excuse of a business.
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They didn't give a refund?Man,now they actin like 101 distribution and those are Daz's enemies.I never was thinkin about buying shit from them & never will.
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I remember Daz keep sayin shit about some exclusive stuff for the foum members but the shit ain't happenin for some reason.
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HAHAH lol @ fools actually buying things from dpg records..LOL
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i bought that pac and daz cd about 4 years ago on there, spent 54 bucks and didn't get shit for it. 54 bucks is a lot for a poor college kid and that motherfucker ripped me off. i sent paypal money requests and dude didn't even have the courtesy to explain the situation. piece of shit daz isn't gettin a goddam penny off me for the rest of my life....maybe i'll just start burnin his cd and give them out for free - daz is a scandalous ass piece of shit.
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sman 54 bucks and u didnt do shit about it? man u gotta call like the better business bureau or some shit n get ur money man , if not that go down to headquarters ur damn self n go postal
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oughtta try to get everyone who has been ripped off to get together. Post threads in all the other rap forums. there is probably at least 500 people who have been ripped off. File one of those lawsuits, I forget what they are called, but where its like all the people file one suit against them. I've gotten ripped off from an album from them, and I think something needs to be done soon.
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Im in the same boat as JTPlatinum, and I beleive Seer, Rud and a few other memebers here. We have attempted contacting the Better Business Buero etc and its dont shit all. Sent refund requests, folllowed DPG'z refund instructions, everything. Its bullshit, but its outta our hands...
Dont think we havent tried...
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Im in the same boat as JTPlatinum, and I beleive Seer, Rud and a few other memebers here. We have attempted contacting the Better Business Buero etc and its dont shit all. Sent refund requests, folllowed DPG'z refund instructions, everything. Its bullshit, but its outta our hands...
Dont think we havent tried...
yeah but if we all got together and filed one lawsuit, something would happen.
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LOL i'm a lawyer so i could sue Daz's ass, if i wanted to. But i aint so stupid to buy a cdr from him (for 50+$).
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LOL i'm a lawyer so i could sue Daz's ass, if i wanted to. But i aint so stupid to buy a cdr from him (for 50+$).
anyone ripped off by daz can sue him, you don't have to be a lawyer to sue.
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I ordered the Soopafly "Whoopty Whoop" album from them about 3 years ago and they ended up sending me 2 copies of it. ???
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i wouldn't buy something off a crack head in person......what makes you think i'd buy something off an E-crackhead?
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LOL i'm a lawyer so i could sue Daz's ass, if i wanted to. But i aint so stupid to buy a cdr from him (for 50+$).
anyone ripped off by daz can sue him, you don't have to be a lawyer to sue.
You are right. But you have to know yourself you can do it. Plus one thing is if you sue someone by yourself. Another thing is if you really have to pay a lawyer. Would you pay a lawyer and really sue someone for 50$? Honestly...
NO.
Like somebody said, the only realistic way to get a refund is if let's say 30 guys who was been ripped off do a legal action together. Maybe asking a lawyer they know to do it for themselves. Like that, it's enought to have 1 lawyer for them all (all the lawsuits against Daz will be discussed in 1 trial), and if you win (win is easy), everybody will get his refund.
This way, or you have to be a lawyer by yourself, like ma, and sue Daz as a funny hobby, between one important trial and another.
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Man for you guys that lost $54 on that mak and dilli, think about those people who paid, what was it? like $400 or $500 for it. Remember that shit? When it first went up thats how much people oaid for it. I know some guys that paid it too. They NEVER refunded it. These were college kids who I'm sure weren't rich, they just loved pac's music so they threw it down because on the site it claimed that only like 2,000 copies were going to be made and thats how much they were going to cost. $500 could get me 2 months of rent at least, aint that some shit.
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LOL i'm a lawyer so i could sue Daz's ass, if i wanted to. But i aint so stupid to buy a cdr from him (for 50+$).
anyone ripped off by daz can sue him, you don't have to be a lawyer to sue.
You are right. But you have to know yourself you can do it. Plus one thing is if you sue someone by yourself. Another thing is if you really have to pay a lawyer. Would you pay a lawyer and really sue someone for 50$? Honestly...
NO.
you could sue him in small claims court and neither you nor daz could have a lawyer present. I gaurantee I know the law a shitload better than daz. Still your right, its not really worth it $$$ wise, its just the fact that he shouldn't get away with ripping people off.
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Man for you guys that lost $54 on that mak and dilli, think about those people who paid, what was it? like $400 or $500 for it. Remember that shit? When it first went up thats how much people oaid for it. I know some guys that paid it too. They NEVER refunded it. These were college kids who I'm sure weren't rich, they just loved pac's music so they threw it down because on the site it claimed that only like 2,000 copies were going to be made and thats how much they were going to cost. $500 could get me 2 months of rent at least, aint that some shit.
See man. I suggest those people, if they want to get a refund, to do a legal action togheter. I say Daz has 0.1% of chances to win. It's illegal to say only 2000 cds (when he sold more, or at least he took money for more cds). It's illegal to sell a cd without authorizations, and he didnt have authorization (they were tecnically bootlegs). It's illegal to own Pac's material and to release it without Afeni's authorization. It's illegal to get money before the cd is already finished and you have full rights to sell it. It's illegal to keep the money for youself for some months before the release date. It's illegal to not refund ppl who has bought it.
Man that's a trial so easy it aint even interesting, for me.
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LOL i'm a lawyer so i could sue Daz's ass, if i wanted to. But i aint so stupid to buy a cdr from him (for 50+$).
anyone ripped off by daz can sue him, you don't have to be a lawyer to sue.
You are right. But you have to know yourself you can do it. Plus one thing is if you sue someone by yourself. Another thing is if you really have to pay a lawyer. Would you pay a lawyer and really sue someone for 50$? Honestly...
NO.
you could sue him in small claims court and neither you nor daz could have a lawyer present. I gaurantee I know the law a shitload better than daz. Still your right, its not really worth it $$$ wise, its just the fact that he shouldn't get away with ripping people off.
Look. If just 1 person does it, he could do it the way you described (even if it's hella hard to be in the same place of Daz, and Daz will probably finish not being there). Cause the total request, with just 1 person asking Daz money, is 50$. Get it?
Now, if 20-30 ppl asks the same money to Daz, the total amount of the request will be not 50$, but 50$ x 20-30 guys, get it? If all those ppl who was been ripped off for 400-500$ will sue him together, it will not be just a 50$ trial, but a 3000-4000$ trial. Get it?
So it will be a regular trial, with regular lawyers, and Daz can be punished REAL BAD.
But....
in the real life, nobody will sue him.
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Oh, and yes, Daz deserved a real good lawyer punishing his ass and doing him the same thing he has done to Suge. I just hate it when ppl act so "gangsta". But, trust me, lawyers are worse than gangsters. Like they say here, if you got 2 bullets and you can kill Saddam Hussein, Bin Laden and a lawyer... who do you shoot?
The lawyer.
Twice.
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u sure those ppl paid MColin? Coz Kronik said only one kid paid $500 for it, and they sent him a leather jacket n shit to settle that situation ages ago.
When I paid, I asked Daz if I could get some free shit with it (this was WHEN it was $500, then he lowered it and I got it). He promised me free stuff if I got it for $500. So the price dropped, I ordered it, and then in the mail I got The Independent Game vhs, a DPG Recordz tshirt and another copy of RAW!! So I paid money, but got something outta it. Its fucked up how they didnt give us the cd though, or atleast a damn refund!!!
So Antonio...u gonna sue him for us Mr. Lawyer? 8)
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Yeah, i remember about Kronik saying it too. But could we really trust him? Anyway Toby that's still illegal what happened to you. He's not supposed to give you other things. No matter if he gives you something that's worth the 50$ (or whatever you paid it). If he cant give you the CD, then the contract you've made with him is fucked up, so you HAVE to get a refund, in money. And no, i'll not be mr. lawyer, lol. Well i live in Italy, it's a non realistic thing. Oh, and you still can get 50$ from Daz. No matter if you've received something from him. You didnt ask it. It's not a regular refund. So if somebody will sue Daz, contact him and tell his lawyer to add your name in the "list".
If somebody was really been ripped off for 400-500$, then tell him to move his ass and to find a lawyer! 500$ is a good price to sue someone. And you all could do the same "using" him. :)
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Oh, i was thinking.. i dunno about the States, but here, in Italy, there are some customers associations who defend customers (buyers) against people like Daz. You just phone them, they contact you, they give you a very very good lawyer (for free), and you can sue his ass. It's all for free. Of course you cant "use" it if it's just you who was been ripped off. But hey, if you all are 30-40 or 2000.... for sure you can!! Just ask around about those associations. Here you can find their phone number in the phone books (with all the phone numbers)... but Italy is smaller State than the USA, could be a lil different. But try it. I'm sure it's something interesting, for them. I mean we got a rapper (who was probably been in jail before) who ripped off plenty of people. What's better?
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i never had any problems with orders from dpg recordz. they sent me all the stuff ive orderer fast. i always paid via paypal and everything was cool. i ordered like 10 cds from them in the last years/months.... received all the items. actually they sent me a FREE cd aswell. thanks daz. lol
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but SUES if u ordered in the last months it could only have been through Toon, who no one is citing a problem with... it was all the OG orders
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but SUES if u ordered in the last months it could only have been through Toon, who no one is citing a problem with... it was all the OG orders
i also ordered directly from them. even daz(lol) emailed me back and said he will pack a d&yg cd for free with my ordered soopafly album. i also ordered i think wrwu1 from them. all good. after that i only ordered from toon yea. its a gay move tho with all that makadilli album shit and the refunds. i would be pissed as hell too.
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Problem with the Makadilli album is not that he didnt sell it no more. Problem is that he didnt have rights to release it at all! And he knew it. So the cd was just an excuse to get some free money from his own fans. The worse thing i've ever seen, lol. How stupid was it? It's like if now i start to sell a cd with 20 unreleased unleaked Pac tracks for 500$. Pay now, you'll get the cd next xmas. Only 2000 cds, so hurry up! It doesnt matter if i really have that cdr, i still cant ask money for it, and you still can get refunds for it. Even if i really send you a cdr. :)
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ok. those that paid didn't know it was a cdr and it even said on the website that it wasn't some stupid little cdr. and, afeni didn't have ALL the rights back then. as a matter of fact, after the orders were made and all the people paid their money is when afeni went to court to legalize the well known fact of today that she owns all rights to pac's work. when we paid, it wasn't official, and it was actually a RESULT of the money we paid. back when we paid our money, we thought we were getting a genuinely rare and very coveted cd. and for all the people now paying 50 dollars for a ras kass album, we thought we were getting truly something unique. and honestly, i really think daz had full intentions of sending it to us. but i knew it was over when we heard the news that afeni wasn't gonna allow it.
call us idiots or whatever, but it wasn't like you described it. i'm just mad i didn't get anything and all you motherfuckers talkin like we were stupid to send our money....generally, if you see something that seems official and you want it, you order it. it didn't seem like the big deal it is today. i just think daz is a lazy motherfucker for having no problems with taking our money....
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ok. those that paid didn't know it was a cdr and it even said on the website that it wasn't some stupid little cdr. and, afeni didn't have ALL the rights back then. as a matter of fact, after the orders were made and all the people paid their money is when afeni went to court to legalize the well known fact of today that she owns all rights to pac's work.
No man, i think you're wrong here. First of all Afeni already owned Pac's tracks. But since Daz stole them tracks from Death Row, Afeni's lawyers didnt know about them tracks (and who had them) till Daz started to sell them, or better to say he had a Makaveli & Dillinger album on sale. Trust me: Afeni's lawyers doesnt even know how many tracks Pac recorded with Death Row! And they dont have all those tracks (example the One Nation tracks). So no, Daz didnt have the rights to release them tracks. Expecially since he "changed them". Plus he said they were all unleaked and unreleased OG Pac tracks, but they were just remixes (and some tracks were already leaked, like They Dont GAFAU).
when we paid, it wasn't official, and it was actually a RESULT of the money we paid. back when we paid our money, we thought we were getting a genuinely rare and very coveted cd. and for all the people now paying 50 dollars for a ras kass album, we thought we were getting truly something unique. and honestly, i really think daz had full intentions of sending it to us. but i knew it was over when we heard the news that afeni wasn't gonna allow it.
No man. Daz didnt have rights to ask money for it. He had to call Afeni first. Then ask for the money. He did a mistake. It's not Afeni who blocked it, but Daz who had no rights to sell it and remix it and lie about it.
call us idiots or whatever, but it wasn't like you described it. i'm just mad i didn't get anything and all you motherfuckers talkin like we were stupid to send our money....
Man i aint saying you was been stupid. I'm saying Daz was been arrogant and uncorrect. And deserved to be sued by a good lawyer. You are the victim. Not Daz.
generally, if you see something that seems official and you want it, you order it. it didn't seem like the big deal it is today.
I know. In fact i was about to buy it by myself. But look.. that's another reason to sue Daz even more! Cause he made it looks like he had rights to make a cdr with remixed tracks of Pac and to lie about them and to ask money for them. Just another reason to sue him. Not an excuse.
i just think daz is a lazy motherfucker for having no problems with taking our money....
Lazy? Call him BASTARD!
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I never have, and never will join they forums, read they forums, or purchase from they site.
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ok. those that paid didn't know it was a cdr and it even said on the website that it wasn't some stupid little cdr. and, afeni didn't have ALL the rights back then. as a matter of fact, after the orders were made and all the people paid their money is when afeni went to court to legalize the well known fact of today that she owns all rights to pac's work.
No man, i think you're wrong here. First of all Afeni already owned Pac's tracks. But since Daz stole them tracks from Death Row, Afeni's lawyers didnt know about them tracks (and who had them) till Daz started to sell them, or better to say he had a Makaveli & Dillinger album on sale. Trust me: Afeni's lawyers doesnt even know how many tracks Pac recorded with Death Row! And they dont have all those tracks (example the One Nation tracks). So no, Daz didnt have the rights to release them tracks. Expecially since he "changed them". Plus he said they were all unleaked and unreleased OG Pac tracks, but they were just remixes (and some tracks were already leaked, like They Dont GAFAU).
when we paid, it wasn't official, and it was actually a RESULT of the money we paid. back when we paid our money, we thought we were getting a genuinely rare and very coveted cd. and for all the people now paying 50 dollars for a ras kass album, we thought we were getting truly something unique. and honestly, i really think daz had full intentions of sending it to us. but i knew it was over when we heard the news that afeni wasn't gonna allow it.
No man. Daz didnt have rights to ask money for it. He had to call Afeni first. Then ask for the money. He did a mistake. It's not Afeni who blocked it, but Daz who had no rights to sell it and remix it and lie about it.
call us idiots or whatever, but it wasn't like you described it. i'm just mad i didn't get anything and all you motherfuckers talkin like we were stupid to send our money....
Man i aint saying you was been stupid. I'm saying Daz was been arrogant and uncorrect. And deserved to be sued by a good lawyer. You are the victim. Not Daz.
generally, if you see something that seems official and you want it, you order it. it didn't seem like the big deal it is today.
I know. In fact i was about to buy it by myself. But look.. that's another reason to sue Daz even more! Cause he made it looks like he had rights to make a cdr with remixed tracks of Pac and to lie about them and to ask money for them. Just another reason to sue him. Not an excuse.
i just think daz is a lazy motherfucker for having no problems with taking our money....
Lazy? Call him BASTARD!
i'm sayin, when i bought it, i didn't perceive it as being illegal or didn't even comprehend that i could be ripped off. if what you say is true, that afeni already owned all pac material, then i didn't know about it and probably would feel like a bigger schmuck if i bought it knowing that it was illegal.....
i'm just a bit offended and a bit shocked at the people that said shit like 'lol at idiots buying a cdr for 50 bucks'. fuck that shit. i got ripped off now i gotta get made fun of for being ripped off? fuck that. i thought i was buying a totally legit cd from a legit site yet i got screwed.....
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^^maybe you're right about afeni already owning rights, but i do remember an email i got from them that said that afeni was gonna stop the release of it.....
in any case, we got ripped off by dat faget azz dazz and i don't wanna hear like i was bein a dumbass for being trustworthy enough as to buy off his dumb fuckin site....
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LOL i'm a lawyer so i could sue Daz's ass, if i wanted to. But i aint so stupid to buy a cdr from him (for 50+$).
anyone ripped off by daz can sue him, you don't have to be a lawyer to sue.
You are right. But you have to know yourself you can do it. Plus one thing is if you sue someone by yourself. Another thing is if you really have to pay a lawyer. Would you pay a lawyer and really sue someone for 50$? Honestly...
NO.
you could sue him in small claims court and neither you nor daz could have a lawyer present. I gaurantee I know the law a shitload better than daz. Still your right, its not really worth it $$$ wise, its just the fact that he shouldn't get away with ripping people off.
i'd bet a million dollars daz wouldn't show up...there's no incentive for daz to show up to small claims court and the only way to get his ass in there if he's got a federal issued subponea (i learned all this from the movies)....
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I never have, and never will join they forums, read they forums, or purchase from they site.
When Daz Posts Something I Always Go & Comment On What He Says If I Can Understand It(Hardly Ever) Other Than That I Try To Get Banned lol.
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slightly off topic but has daz actually got the millions he won of suge and the row in court a little while back?
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daz is never gonna get millions from suge. be realistic, suge would never pay daz. and daz is too much of a crack head to do anything and he is too scared of suge. Suge doesn't even pay his artists when they make albums for him and sell millions of copies, you think he is gonna pay crackhead daz for winning a lawsuit? I don't think so.
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JTPlatnum maybe my english aint good enought. Look, i'm a lawyer, i'm used to this shit. There's a guy who let you know something, but the truth is different. You buy something from him, thinking it's all legit, but it isnt. That's my job. To protect ppl like you who trusted some1 from his illegal actions. The fact that he made is look like it was all legit, is something ILLEGAL. It's not you trusting him the problem, but him LETTING YOU TRUST HIM. Feel me? If you had the feeling it was all legit, then you have double the chances to win a lawsuit against him, feel me? That's what i'm saying.
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i'd bet a million dollars daz wouldn't show up...there's no incentive for daz to show up to small claims court and the only way to get his ass in there if he's got a federal issued subponea (i learned all this from the movies)....
His presence aint necessary anyway. If he doesnt show up, it's better for you, cause you'll have no "defence". The trial goes on without him.
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Other than that, i wanna remember you all (Seer & Nima probably remembers it) that i warned you all about this Makaveli & Dillinger cd. In this forum. But most of you guys called me a paranoid, a troll, a spammer, a bitch, a Daz hater, a Pac dickryder, and shit like that. Plus AG from dpgrecordz.com signed here and dissed the fuck out me just for warning people not to buy the album, cause it wasnt legit. And i motivated it. I remember it perfectly, cause that thing forced me to leave the forum for a bit, i got banned, i dissed Axle, Nima and my homies (for not "protecting" me and eventually not trusting me)(then i made peace with them all)... a lot of bad shit i didnt want to happen. I used to run www.dpgrecordz.cjb.net with Nima, but then, when i figured out about that ripp-off, i started to warn people not to buy the cd, and the staff from DPGRecordz started to call me an hater "i thought we was supposed to be a family.."! That's what AG wrote me in a message. Fuck that! Fuck this illegal shit! I went mad. I got banned. What can i say more now? At a certain point, it was obvious for me it was a ripp-off. I'm sorry that now it's too late for some of you guys, but dont tell me i didnt warned you all.
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the funny and sad thing(for daz) is that everybody talks about daz being on sosodef......while JD is on every show but doesnt mention daz anymore........ 8)
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DPG Records is wack as hell. They are simply a portal for pressed bootlegs and unmixed music. These artists have formed a name for them selves, now releasing sub standard music cause Daz has the ability to press cds and sell them. Its poor.
Support majors, if you want good music!
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Support Majors or you can support independant. I like DPG Record releases, but I hate broken promises
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Support majors, if you want good music!
Or just buy shit from DPG Recordz only if you see them in your local store (or via amazon.com or cduniverse.com or friscostreetshow.com). But dont order directly from them, cause they might fuck you up.
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Anyway, that's my opinion, the rest of your topic was nothing but the truth! (and i understand if you love Daz, and you cant accept it, but you cant neglect it ether)
DPG Records is wack as hell. They are simply a portal for pressed bootlegs and unmixed music. These artists have formed a name for them selves, now releasing sub standard music cause Daz has the ability to press cds and sell them. Its poor.
Nothing but the fucking truth! 8)
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JTPlatnum maybe my english aint good enought. Look, i'm a lawyer, i'm used to this shit. There's a guy who let you know something, but the truth is different. You buy something from him, thinking it's all legit, but it isnt. That's my job. To protect ppl like you who trusted some1 from his illegal actions. The fact that he made is look like it was all legit, is something ILLEGAL. It's not you trusting him the problem, but him LETTING YOU TRUST HIM. Feel me? If you had the feeling it was all legit, then you have double the chances to win a lawsuit against him, feel me? That's what i'm saying.
no no, i wasn't sayin anything about what you said to me....i was just commenting on one of the other posters tellin me that i'm a dumbfuck for believin it...i know you're a lawyer, you've told me before...i understand what you're saying, i just don't appreciate the [other] posters callin us dumbfucks when they don't understand the situation...
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Yeah well i might understand it's a ;D situation when someone got robbed this way by Daz. And it's a 8) situation when someone (Daz) acts this way. Some fans might even find it "ghetto", "gangsta", "tight", "dope", "cool".... BULLSHIT! Expecially if you see it from the eyes of the one fucked up or from the eyes of a lawyer who has everything clear in his mind. So.. if we want to joke, then ok, it's funny ;D. But if we wanna be real for a moment, things like that are so stupid you should stop supporting Daz and his label cause he's a fake and he's shitting on his own fans, treating them like stupid kids. I've lost all my respect for Daz since that day. His music is still tight, but i'll not buy his albums no more. Call me paranoid. Maybe it's true. But still.. :P