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Title: Rhythm-al-ism or Dre's Chronic 2001
Post by: ACGRUNDY on March 06, 2004, 09:56:12 AM
I go with  rhythmalism.  highly underrated album, maybe not by this forum (and hardcore rap fans) but to the general public, highly underrated.
Title: Re:Rhythm-al-ism or Dre's Chronic 2001
Post by: Rudki on March 06, 2004, 09:59:14 AM
Rythmalism hands down......

beats were fresher, more musical....many reasons why i prefer this to 2001.....

Title: Re:Rhythm-al-ism or Dre's Chronic 2001
Post by: BAD_SCE on March 06, 2004, 10:00:00 AM
DJ QUIK CD IS MUCH BETTER
Title: Re:Rhythm-al-ism or Dre's Chronic 2001
Post by: Lord Funk on March 06, 2004, 10:02:57 AM
Rhythm-al-ism, no question.

2001 was pretty much flawless for the first half, but after that there's just too much filler (same problem as the original Chronic in my opinion).

Quik's album, on the other hand, is one of the freshest records I've ever heard, in any genre, from any time. If it had been pushed right he could have totally changed the game with that CD, no doubt.
Title: Re:Rhythm-al-ism or Dre's Chronic 2001
Post by: Eddie G. on March 06, 2004, 10:08:46 AM
"Chronic 2001" simply cannot fuck with "Rhythm-al-ism."  Everything on Quik's album is better.
Title: Re:Rhythm-al-ism or Dre's Chronic 2001
Post by: Juronimo on March 06, 2004, 10:30:14 AM
Rhythmalism, no contest.
Title: Re:Rhythm-al-ism or Dre's Chronic 2001
Post by: BL7 on March 06, 2004, 10:56:55 AM
Rhythm-al-ism, no question.

2001 was pretty much flawless for the first half, but after that there's just too much filler (same problem as the original Chronic in my opinion).

Quik's album, on the other hand, is one of the freshest records I've ever heard, in any genre, from any time. If it had been pushed right he could have totally changed the game with that CD, no doubt.
Title: Re:Rhythm-al-ism or Dre's Chronic 2001
Post by: nibs on March 06, 2004, 11:05:36 AM
rhythm-al-ism by far.

and the original chronic didn't have any filler on side 2.  lyrical gangbang?  stranded on death row?  high powered?  bitches ain't shit???

how the fuck are you gonna say the chronic had too much filler on side 2?

"a nigga with a gun", "rat a tat tat"...that shit was cool too.  

and i should clown your ass for talking about "side 1" and "side 2" you cassette playing ass muthafucka.  this is 2003.  step it up.  but i had that shit on cassette too, back in the day, so i'll let that slide :)
Title: Re:Rhythm-al-ism or Dre's Chronic 2001
Post by: CRAFTY on March 06, 2004, 11:07:44 AM
Rhythm-al-ism, no question.

2001 was pretty much flawless for the first half, but after that there's just too much filler (same problem as the original Chronic in my opinion).

Quik's album, on the other hand, is one of the freshest records I've ever heard, in any genre, from any time. If it had been pushed right he could have totally changed the game with that CD, no doubt.
Title: Re:Rhythm-al-ism or Dre's Chronic 2001
Post by: Lord Funk on March 06, 2004, 11:48:40 AM
and the original chronic didn't have any filler on side 2.  lyrical gangbang?  stranded on death row?  high powered?  bitches ain't shit???

how the fuck are you gonna say the chronic had too much filler on side 2?

"a nigga with a gun", "rat a tat tat"...that shit was cool too.  

and i should clown your ass for talking about "side 1" and "side 2" you cassette playing ass muthafucka.  this is 2003.  step it up.  but i had that shit on cassette too, back in the day, so i'll let that slide :)

lol... that aimed at me?

Those tracks are all cool, but IMO you can't put 'High Powered' up against 'Dre Day', or 'Nigga Wit A Gun' up against  'G Thang' or 'Standed on Death Row' up against 'Let Me Ride' to take three random examples... the first half of the album was the classic tracks. The second half was just the regular tracks :P

and that little 'side 1 / 2' rant? I never mentioned 'side 1' or 'side 2'. I talked about 'halves'. CDs still have a first and second half dude.

Oh yeah... and I should clown YOU for saying 'this is 2003', you no-calendar-having ass muthafucka... rofl
Title: Re:Rhythm-al-ism or Dre's Chronic 2001
Post by: PhantomChild on March 06, 2004, 12:00:10 PM
and the original chronic didn't have any filler on side 2.  lyrical gangbang?  stranded on death row?  high powered?  bitches ain't shit???

how the fuck are you gonna say the chronic had too much filler on side 2?

"a nigga with a gun", "rat a tat tat"...that shit was cool too.  

and i should clown your ass for talking about "side 1" and "side 2" you cassette playing ass muthafucka.  this is 2003.  step it up.  but i had that shit on cassette too, back in the day, so i'll let that slide :)

lol... that aimed at me?

Those tracks are all cool, but IMO you can't put 'High Powered' up against 'Dre Day', or 'Nigga Wit A Gun' up against  'G Thang' or 'Standed on Death Row' up against 'Let Me Ride' to take three random examples... the first half of the album was the classic tracks. The second half was just the regular tracks :P

and that little 'side 1 / 2' rant? I never mentioned 'side 1' or 'side 2'. I talked about 'halves'. CDs still have a first and second half dude.

Oh yeah... and I should clown YOU for saying 'this is 2003', you no-calendar-having ass muthafucka... rofl

Ha Ha Ha^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Lord you are right about them filler tracks,i can name about 5 other CD's that came out in 93 better than Chronic.
Title: Re:Rhythm-al-ism or Dre's Chronic 2001
Post by: nibs on March 06, 2004, 12:11:23 PM
lol... that aimed at me?

Those tracks are all cool, but IMO you can't put 'High Powered' up against 'Dre Day', or 'Nigga Wit A Gun' up against  'G Thang' or 'Standed on Death Row' up against 'Let Me Ride' to take three random examples... the first half of the album was the classic tracks. The second half was just the regular tracks :P[/b]

"bitches ain't shit" is a classic, but other than that, ok.  the first half is a little better than the second.  could you imagine if every album, the worst "filler" tracks sounded like side 2 of the chronic (even without "bitches ain't shit") :o

that's all i'm saying.

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Oh yeah... and I should clown YOU] for saying 'this is 2003', you no-calendar-having ass muthafucka... rofl

lol.  i'm gonna get that calandar as soon you admit  to having a cassette player 8)
Title: Re:Rhythm-al-ism or Dre's Chronic 2001
Post by: Diabolical on March 06, 2004, 12:12:11 PM
I Agree About Fillers On 2001 But Not Chronic
Title: Re:Rhythm-al-ism or Dre's Chronic 2001
Post by: nibs on March 06, 2004, 12:17:28 PM
Lord you are right about them filler tracks,i can name about 5 other CD's that came out in 93 better than Chronic.

the chronic came out in '92.

name 5 cd's in '92 that were better than the chronic.  other than maybe ice cube - "the predator" or king tee - "the triflin' album"
i can't see that happening.  


in '93 we had eazy e - "it's on (<strike>(dr dre)</strike> 187<sup><small>um</small></sup> killa, ren - the shock of the hour, another cube (lethal injection), snoop-doggystyle and wu tang (enter the 36 chambers) droppin'.  so maybe you can argue 5 albums in '93,  but other than wu, every album mentioned was heavily influenced by the chronic anyway.  and you can hear some influence in wu as well.
Title: Re:Rhythm-al-ism or Dre's Chronic 2001
Post by: Hittman2001 on March 06, 2004, 12:35:23 PM
2001
Title: Re:Rhythm-al-ism or Dre's Chronic 2001
Post by: Suga Foot on March 06, 2004, 01:05:59 PM
2001
Title: Re:Rhythm-al-ism or Dre's Chronic 2001
Post by: On The Edge of Insanity on March 06, 2004, 01:06:49 PM
Rhythm-al-ism for me.

Vinyl has two sides as well by the way.
Title: Re:Rhythm-al-ism or Dre's Chronic 2001
Post by: nibs on March 06, 2004, 01:10:25 PM
yes, but there's nothing funny about vinyl.  it has much better sound quality than tapes, and alot of rare remixes are only released on vinyl.  you can't clown someone for having vinyl.
Title: Re:Rhythm-al-ism or Dre's Chronic 2001
Post by: On The Edge of Insanity on March 06, 2004, 01:13:07 PM
Was that aimed at me, cause I was just saying that the dude could have been talking about vinyl, when he got clowned cause everyone assumed he was talking about cassettes. I got a lot of vinyl.
Title: Re:Rhythm-al-ism or Dre's Chronic 2001
Post by: Ras Kass' Toothpick on March 06, 2004, 02:46:12 PM
Damn this board has got to hell.  Rhythm-al-ism better than 2001 are you kidding me?  People on here just have to be different than the norm huh?  Rhythm-al-ism is a hot album no doubt but even if the production is equally dope, 2001 is much better in the lyrics/MCin' department.
Title: Re:Rhythm-al-ism or Dre's Chronic 2001
Post by: Danté Williams on March 06, 2004, 03:02:44 PM
Rhythm-al-ism.

2001 is a great album. GREAT. But it has too many fillers. Rhythm-al-ism is way more solid and consistent, keeping the same vibe all over the cd.
Title: Re:Rhythm-al-ism or Dre's Chronic 2001
Post by: BL7 on March 06, 2004, 03:08:59 PM
Damn this board has got to hell.  Rhythm-al-ism better than 2001 are you kidding me?  People on here just have to be different than the norm huh?  Rhythm-al-ism is a hot album no doubt but even if the production is equally dope, 2001 is much better in the lyrics/MCin' department.

2001 is better lyrically, no thanks to Dre. That album started out good, then it got wack towards the end. I think Rhythm-al-ism is consistent throughout the whole album.


The fact that people don't see things the way you do pisses you off, doesn't it?
Title: Re:Rhythm-al-ism or Dre's Chronic 2001
Post by: i love men who take pictures with their booty's out on March 06, 2004, 03:35:15 PM
Lord you are right about them filler tracks,i can name about 5 other CD's that came out in 93 better than Chronic.

the chronic came out in '92.

name 5 cd's in '92 that were better than the chronic.  other than maybe ice cube - "the predator" or king tee - "the triflin' album"
i can't see that happening.  


in '93 we had eazy e - "it's on (<strike>(dr dre)</strike> 187<sup><small>um</small></sup> killa, ren - the shock of the hour, another cube (lethal injection), snoop-doggystyle and wu tang (enter the 36 chambers) droppin'.  so maybe you can argue 5 albums in '93,  but other than wu, every album mentioned was heavily influenced by the chronic anyway.  and you can hear some influence in wu as well.



rhythmalism is better..
5 albums betta than the chronic in 1992...hmmm shit i can name 10

1. (http://image.allmusic.com/00/amg/cov200/drf000/f064/f06420bntu6.jpg)

2.(http://image.allmusic.com/00/amg/cov200/drd800/d857/d85744x6y0y.jpg)

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5.(http://image.allmusic.com/00/amg/cov200/drd500/d561/d56172b4fr0.jpg)


6.(http://image.allmusic.com/00/amg/cov200/drc800/c893/c89332kp77j.jpg)

7.(http://image.allmusic.com/00/amg/cov200/drc600/c623/c6239116o37.jpg)

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10.(http://image.allmusic.com/00/amg/cov200/drc400/c480/c4800398hm0.jpg)

but i guess some of yall wasnt ready 4 a couple of those albums..especially ugk,bust down,redman ,willie d and nip...



Title: Re:Rhythm-al-ism or Dre's Chronic 2001
Post by: T-Dogg on March 06, 2004, 04:06:26 PM
I'll vote for Chronic 2001. Both Rhythm-al-ism and 2001 are excellent and classic masterpiece albums - BUT - on Rhythm-al-ism I feel Quik doesn't have quite his own sound. And there's also the fact that 2001 set the bar for Hip-Hop production when it came out. Not too many guys can get over that bar even today. Plus there's the lyrics bit - I feel 2001 had better raps on it, classic ones.

I ain't feeling some of y'all on the filler department though - there's not one track on 2001 that I skip or wouldn't feel as much as the others. To me it's solid.
Title: Re:Rhythm-al-ism or Dre's Chronic 2001
Post by: Darksider on March 06, 2004, 06:45:34 PM
2001
Title: Re:Rhythm-al-ism or Dre's Chronic 2001
Post by: E. J. Rizo on March 06, 2004, 07:17:03 PM
man yall are weird i mean dont get me wrong rythalism is tight and all but 2001 is the shit.....2001 by far IMO...but thats just me you guys have your own opinions
Title: Re:Rhythm-al-ism or Dre's Chronic 2001
Post by: nibs on March 06, 2004, 07:27:22 PM
you reppin' for steve jobs and them?  lol.  

what do you know about june 28th - july 2nd???
Title: Re:Rhythm-al-ism or Dre's Chronic 2001
Post by: PhantomChild on March 06, 2004, 08:08:14 PM
Lord you are right about them filler tracks,i can name about 5 other CD's that came out in 93 better than Chronic.

the chronic came out in '92.

name 5 cd's in '92 that were better than the chronic.  other than maybe ice cube - "the predator" or king tee - "the triflin' album"
i can't see that happening.  


in '93 we had eazy e - "it's on (<strike>(dr dre)</strike> 187<sup><small>um</small></sup> killa, ren - the shock of the hour, another cube (lethal injection), snoop-doggystyle and wu tang (enter the 36 chambers) droppin'.  so maybe you can argue 5 albums in '93,  but other than wu, every album mentioned was heavily influenced by the chronic anyway.  and you can hear some influence in wu as well.



rhythmalism is better..
5 albums betta than the chronic in 1992...hmmm shit i can name 10

1. (http://image.allmusic.com/00/amg/cov200/drf000/f064/f06420bntu6.jpg)

2.(http://image.allmusic.com/00/amg/cov200/drd800/d857/d85744x6y0y.jpg)

3.(http://image.allmusic.com/00/amg/cov200/drc400/c492/c4926809447.jpg)

4.(http://image.allmusic.com/00/amg/cov200/drc500/c516/c516662g565.jpg)

5.(http://image.allmusic.com/00/amg/cov200/drd500/d561/d56172b4fr0.jpg)


6.(http://image.allmusic.com/00/amg/cov200/drc800/c893/c89332kp77j.jpg)

7.(http://image.allmusic.com/00/amg/cov200/drc600/c623/c6239116o37.jpg)

8.(http://image.allmusic.com/00/amg/cov200/drc600/c625/c62578g1qr1.jpg)

9.(http://image.allmusic.com/00/amg/cov200/drf500/f555/f55576e1tkg.jpg)

10.(http://image.allmusic.com/00/amg/cov200/drc400/c480/c4800398hm0.jpg)

but i guess some of yall wasnt ready 4 a couple of those albums..especially ugk,bust down,redman ,willie d and nip...





There were better albums in 92oose beaides the "babbage"

1.Above The Law-Black Mafia Life(Tis is how real G-Funk sounds like)
2.Tweedy Bird Loc-187 Ride By(T-Bird kickin' knowledge as usual)
3.Gang Starr-Daily Operation-(This album is better than D-R-E's career from 92oose to present times)
4.Esham-Vol 1.Judgement Day-(First solid release from the boogieman himself)
5.South Central Cartel-SC Madness(Real Gangstas,Real Situations,Real Lyrics)

There! :oThe "babbage" ain't shit!I proved My point Shieeet! :o >:( :D
Title: Re:Rhythm-al-ism or Dre's Chronic 2001
Post by: nibs on March 06, 2004, 11:15:00 PM
tweedy bird loc's album was terrible.  willie d's album was terrible.  black mafia life might have been g-funk, but it was nowhere near as refined as on the chronic (which is extremely raw compared to doggystyle).  and certainly big hutch recognized this, because he smoothed out that atl sound alot for uncle sam's curse.
Title: Re:Rhythm-al-ism or Dre's Chronic 2001
Post by: D.R.E.-Dogg on March 07, 2004, 02:24:18 AM
lmao @tweedy bird and all that shit over The Chronic

anyway, for me it's 2001 by far
Title: Re:Rhythm-al-ism or Dre's Chronic 2001
Post by: Lil Jay on March 07, 2004, 03:17:13 AM
today its 2001, tomorrow Rhythm-al-ism really
Title: Re:Rhythm-al-ism or Dre's Chronic 2001
Post by: Bojakabo on March 07, 2004, 07:56:48 AM
rythmalism is a more consistent record, one of very few album i can listen to without skippin a track
Title: Re:Rhythm-al-ism or Dre's Chronic 2001
Post by: PhantomChild on March 07, 2004, 10:25:18 AM
tweedy bird loc's album was terrible.  willie d's album was terrible.  black mafia life might have been g-funk, but it was nowhere near as refined as on the chronic (which is extremely raw compared to doggystyle).  and certainly big hutch recognized this, because he smoothed out that atl sound alot for uncle sam's curse.

I take Tweedy more serious than punk ass Dr.Dre  anyday,it may not be better to,i haven't even listened to 187 Ride By yet,I just really don't like Dr.Dre I guess!
Title: Re:Rhythm-al-ism or Dre's Chronic 2001
Post by: PhantomChild on March 07, 2004, 10:30:54 AM
lmao @tweedy bird and all that shit over The Chronic

anyway, for me it's 2001 by far

Sorry Dude,Daily Operation is by far way more better and refreshing than"Chronic"will ever be!
Title: Re:Rhythm-al-ism or Dre's Chronic 2001
Post by: Ras Kass' Toothpick on March 07, 2004, 04:40:54 PM
2001 is better lyrically, no thanks to Dre. That album started out good, then it got wack towards the end. I think Rhythm-al-ism is consistent throughout the whole album.

I think that Dre sounds as good as he ever has on that CD.  Everyone came thru on that album, including Dre (check "The Watcher" for evidence).  The reason I think the second half might suffer is just because of the garbage skits in the way but it's still not enough to bring it down.

The fact that people don't see things the way you do pisses you off, doesn't it?

Not really, I just state my views and what I notice.  (which is always right BTW)
Title: Re:Rhythm-al-ism or Dre's Chronic 2001
Post by: BL7 on March 08, 2004, 02:04:21 AM
Dre doesn't write his own rhymes, homie. That's why I said:

 
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2001 is better lyrically, no thanks to Dre.


Quik & Dre have two different styles. You prefer Dre's, and I prefer Quik's.


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Not really, I just state my views and what I notice.  (which is always right BTW)

LOL. You don't think saying "Damn this board has got to hell.  Rhythm-al-ism better than 2001 are you kidding me?  People on here just have to be different than the norm huh?" is going overboard?

Title: Re:Rhythm-al-ism or Dre's Chronic 2001
Post by: js83 on March 08, 2004, 02:09:03 AM
Rhythm-al-ism

i think its one of the best produced albums from da west...quik is really talented...
Title: Re:Rhythm-al-ism or Dre's Chronic 2001
Post by: f0n|{sta on March 08, 2004, 05:31:02 AM
no question...Rhythm-Al-Ism
Title: Re:Rhythm-al-ism or Dre's Chronic 2001
Post by: Don Dolla on March 08, 2004, 07:45:45 AM
quik
Title: Re:Rhythm-al-ism or Dre's Chronic 2001
Post by: Tha Psycho Hustla on March 08, 2004, 09:54:11 AM
I Voted 4 Quik`s LP Cuz Dat Album Will Neva Get Tha Attention And Quik Will Neva Get Tha Respect He Deserves Cuz Tha Industry Iz On DRE/EM/50 Dick
Rhythm-Al-Ism Wuz Classic Fa`Sho But..Chronic Wuz Tyte Even Tho`It Could Be Betta Wit`Sum Features Wit`Daz Warren G And Maybe Sum J-Flexx And Sam Sneed Shit On It..But Dre Wuz/Iz On Em`s Dick...
QUIK`Z THA NAME..I VOTED RHYTHM-AL-ISM