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Lifestyle => Sports & Entertainment => Topic started by: pinche juan on March 10, 2004, 10:03:29 AM
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Brock Lesnar informed WWE management yesterday that his last date for the foreseeable future will be at WrestleMania.
Check back later today for more on this story.
he is leaving to go play in the nfl
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It's noy 100% confirmed yet.
Brock Lesnar quits WWE?
TSN.ca Staff with files from Wrestling Observer &
3/10/2004
Dave Scherer of PWinsider.com and Dave Meltzer of WrestlingObserver.com are both reporting that Brock Lesnar quit the company at last night's SmackDown tapings citing his desire to pursue a career in the National Football League.
The 26 year old Lesnar will face Bill Goldberg at WrestleMania XX on Sunday in what he is allegedly telling insiders will be his final match.
Lesnar allegedly stood up in front of the SmackDown crew yesterday at the pre-show talent meeting and announced his desire to leave the company following WrestleMania to pursue a career in the National Football league. Lesnar told people that he was miserable in the business and was burned out by WWE's hectic travel schedule which has seen him join the crew for shows in places as far away as South Africa and Iraq in the past few months.
Lesnar allegedly thanked Vince McMahon, Jim Ross, Gerry Brisco, Big Show, and Paul Heyman for their help with his career, and said he would return.
This is a sharp turn-about for a man who has attempted to become a cornerstone of the locker room, and who a couple of months ago during a pre-show talent meeting, allegedly said that people who leaked information to the internet would have to deal with him.
A rumour like this seems so ludicrous that it feels like a WrestleMania public relations stunt in order to get hype for the Pay Per View. Lesnar had an illustrious high school and college wrestling career, but isn't known at all for his performance on the grid iron. Lesnar recently signed a 7 year deal with World Wrestling Entertainment, and bought himself a jet to make his trips around the country more comfortable. WWE agreed at the time to pick up the tab for fuel and the pilot for the jet.
TSN.ca is attempting to contact WWE for comment on this story. More on it as it develops.
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I DIDN'T KNOW HE WAS BANGIN SABLE!!! Lucky mofo.
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This is why vince needs stop pushing these new fucks. Lesnar came in and instantly became a monster, and now look at him, he's out the door. But you had guys like Booker who broke his back for wrestling, and never got the true push they deserved to make room for guys like Brock who just don't give a fuck. And face it, Brock DIDN'T draw. The ratings in wrestling have been far inferior to what they were back in the mid to late 90's. I'm glad to see them giving people like Eddie a chance. And they need to keep doing that. Push the eddies, the jerichos, the benoits, and peeps that put thier heart and soul into the sport, and keep the rookies at bay until you see they are commited. Vince needs to evaluate his company better >:(
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^ I think the simple answer is he needs to push the guys with Charisma, like Eddie, Christian, Jericho, etc. those should be all your champions, the ones than can talk. Brock never could talk. I mean he should have been pushed, because he's a monster, but you can't build the whole company around 1 guy or 2 guys.
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this will end up being a work. Remember all these meetings about storylines leaking out? Vince would've sat down, told a few people a different story each, only to find out someones story has made it to the internet
might not be real, but atleast i can hope ;D
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"^ I think the simple answer is he needs to push the guys with Charisma, like Eddie, Christian, Jericho, etc. those should be all your champions, the ones than can talk. Brock never could talk. I mean he should have been pushed, because he's a monster, but you can't build the whole company around 1 guy or 2 guys."
Lesnar started out as a monster then became a much more rounded character , his mic skills have greatly improved since his debut and are still improving
also i don't blame Lesnar for wanting to leave , the schedule for the WWE (especially Smackdown crew) is really demanding , if he can find a better way of life in football then hey good luck to ya
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As many of you know yesterday was one of the biggest news days we have had in the last year or so. We continue to hear good and bad things about Brock Lesnar leaving WWE. Some people have been questioning the fact of the entire situation as to whether it's a work. All signs right now point to this being completely real and simply the fact that Lesnar is fed up with the travel schedule.
Lesnar is leaving WWE on the best conditions possible given the situation. Obviously, WWE is upset at the loss of a young star such as Brock but understand how unhappy he really is.
Brock will be attending today's press conference at Planet Hollywood in Manhattan. Isn't it funny that WWE has told people that anyone associated with wrestling websites will not be considered “the press”.
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This is why vince needs stop pushing these new fucks. Lesnar came in and instantly became a monster, and now look at him, he's out the door. But you had guys like Booker who broke his back for wrestling, and never got the true push they deserved to make room for guys like Brock who just don't give a fuck. And face it, Brock DIDN'T draw. The ratings in wrestling have been far inferior to what they were back in the mid to late 90's. I'm glad to see them giving people like Eddie a chance. And they need to keep doing that. Push the eddies, the jerichos, the benoits, and peeps that put thier heart and soul into the sport, and keep the rookies at bay until you see they are commited. Vince needs to evaluate his company better >:(
Brock Lesnar was becoming the biggest name in the WWE, he's a bigger heal than HHH who's supposed to be the top heal. And Brock isn't like Goldberg who only cares about money and not the business. Lesnar does care about the business he just can't take the travel schedule. So maybe he is trying the NFL or maybe he's just taking a tempory leave, but there has been a rumour of him wanting to take a break for a few months now.
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I don't agree with you bro. Nothing personal. If he had the heart for it, he would tough it out like every other person on the roster. He was only a rising star cause he was givin his career on a siver platter due to his size. His charisma was low, and his mic skills while improved are still pretty bad. I just think it's a mistake to give so much opportunity to guys like Lesnar who hadn't put in any work. He might be deserving of a big push at THIS point in his career, but not the first day he laced up the boots like he was given. It's unfair to the guys who put in work. Has to be a morale killer.
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^ I agree totally with your evaluation of him, but I can see why Vince pushed him. He worked dark matches for a full year before he came into the WWE on-screen, so he's somebody they were grooming to be huge. I still say what killed him was his mike skills STILL sucked, like you said.
Shit, just look at that videogame commercial where he has a bra and panties match with Torrie Wilson. He even fucked THAT up. The guy just can't talk.
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^ I agree totally with your evaluation of him, but I can see why Vince pushed him. He worked dark matches for a full year before he came into the WWE on-screen, so he's somebody they were grooming to be huge. I still say what killed him was his mike skills STILL sucked, like you said.
Shit, just look at that videogame commercial where he has a bra and panties match with Torrie Wilson. He even fucked THAT up. The guy just can't talk.
How did he fuck that up? The reason he got the push was the fans were responding to him, he was becoming a huge star because fans respect the fact that we have never seen anyone like Lesnar before in the history of this business. Remeber fans wanted him to beat The Rock for the titleover a year ago. He's getting better and better with the mic, that's one of the reason's Paul Heyman isn't with him anymore. And he does care about the business, but the travel is too much. A lot of guys are or were thinking of quitting because of the travel. Nothing killed Brock Lesnar, he's one of four heavyweight contenders that people care about (Eddie, Angle, & Cena being the others) he was and is the biggest heel on Smackdown! and pretty close to ebing the most over heel in the WWE.
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nothing "killed" Brock Lesnar , his mic skills are good :his promo on Eddie Guerrero "these ppl swam a long way to get here" was great and his promo askin to get a match with Goldberg had some good acting for a wrestler
his workrate is awesome and among the best in WWE
he isn't a draw? few ppl are nowadays
"But you had guys like Booker who broke his back for wrestling, and never got the true push"
no offense but Booker T sucks , he was WCW champion in the dying days of WCW , he's very bland and hasn't changed his catchphrases in like 3 years , and has worked with Austin , The Rock and The Undertaker and hasn't gotten over to main event level despite working with super main event guys, ppl like him (i don't)
but not to the point of seeing him as a credible champ
in WWE land he's an upper mid carder at best and thank god for that
oh yeah , also he doesn't deserve a bigger push than he has now
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I didn't care for Booker T growing up, until I saw a Nitro in person. He was the most fun to watch at the show. Hall, Nash, Lugar, and most of the top guys looked like statues out there. Goldberg was just getting hot, and he only did a spear as a run in type thing, but for his full match, Booker was exciting to watch, and I have respect for that. His catch phrases may have gotten old, but you have to have a chance, and good writers to get over with the crowd. Believe what you want, but Edge, Christian, Angle, and even the Rock to some extent rely on writers for their stuff. Don't believe me? Read Angle and Rocks books. So it's not fair to bring up Bookers catch phrases.
You can say what you want about Brocks Mic skills, but he sounds like a constipated woman. Plus he has some of the better minds in wwe writing his material, and still it comes out wrong, or rushed ect.
Not sure why people are defending him. He's leaving the business. He's turning his back on YOU the fans, cause the travel is rough. Fuck that, make your million or 2 a year and deal with it for long enough to say you had a real career in the wwe.
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^^We should be thankful for having seen someone liek Lesnar, because we have never seen anyone like Brock before him, and probably never will again.
Remember Goldberg is leaving because he is getting enough money, all Brock is unhappy with is the travel, Goldberg doen't even do those shows outside of North American
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Again, why are you defending a guy that's leaving? If Brock stays, then power to him. I don't dislike Brock. It's not his fault he's been pushed so hard, but he's the one who is leaving, and that is shitty for the fans.
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Article from www.tsn.ca/wrestling
Dogg: No Brock complaints here
TSN.ca Staff
3/12/2004
With two days left until WrestleMania, I'm sure that World Wrestling Entertainment would love nothing more than to get die-hard wrestling fans talking and excited about Sunday's big event.
Instead, the company faces the fallout of reports that Brock Lesnar - one of its youngest and most popular superstars - will end his wrestling career after his much-hyped match with Bill Goldberg.
How ironic is that? All this time the web was hammered with speculation that Goldberg himself was going to make an exit after WrestleMania, and along comes news that Brock gave his resignation to Vince McMahon on Tuesday and announced it to his co-workers backstage. The wrestler once known as 'The Next Big Thing,' was reportedly burned out by WWE's hectic travel schedule which has seen him join the crew for shows in places as far away as South Africa and Iraq in the past few months.
The news has drawn out a wide range of reactions and emotions from wrestling fans:
The first reaction: Who's going to win the match?
At one end of the ring, you have Brock who is allegedly going off to the greener pastures of the NFL come Monday. At the other end, you have a guy who may also be stepping out on the back end of a reported one-year contract that ends after Sunday night's event.
To take a quote from liveaudiowrestling.com writer John Pollock, it's safe to say that no main event has had this much backstage controversy going into it since Michaels and Bret from the 1997 Survivor Series. This time you have two guys who are planning for this Sunday to be their last match with the company.
If the reports of Brock's and Goldberg's departure are true, this could go down as the most controversial WrestleMania match of all-time. Who does Vince McMahon put over: the guy going exit stage left or the guy leaving exit stage right?
My answer - Who cares? For the first time in years, WWE has successfully booked a match where by default, the outcome will be completely unpredictable.
Not bad for a bout that most people predicted would be a seven-minute squash (hey, it still could be). Just sit back and enjoy it.
The second reaction: Brock's walking out on us.
There has been a lot of undeserved heat on poor Brock for leaving WWE, which culminated with rabid New York fans shouting 'quitter' at the WrestleMania news conference Thursday.
If Brock really is leaving because of the hectic work schedule, who are we as wrestling fans to complain? You have to tip your hat to this young man for making such a big - and courageous - decision.
There is a lot of sex appeal that comes with being a celebrity like a top-level WWE superstar. The paychecks and royalties are beyond your wildest dreams, you get to see the world three times over, and you have the love and respect of fans wherever you go.
But little do most fans know, there is a heavy price to pay for such fame and fortune. The shows we see live and on television may be pre-determined and orchestrated, but the athleticism, pain and brutal lifestyle that comes with it are very real.
The aspect of athleticism and pain have always been well documented. Where the actual lifestyle is concerned, a memorable 2002 feature following Winnipeg's Chris Jericho on CTV's W-5 revealed another relatively unknown aspect of the business - the work schedule. Loving to perform and loving to entertain is one thing, but the hard knocks and bumps can pale in comparison to not seeing your friends and family for weeks or months at a time.
Touring with WWE isn't summer camp, ladies and gentlemen. As most will recall from that television feature, Jericho was driving his own car (no limo as most people expect) from Milwaukee to Chicago in the middle of the night. He was very frank and honest about the travel, saying that he doesn't get time off and that he's pretty much on the road all year long. As an 'independent contractor' with WWE, he is also responsible for paying for his own travel. Unless your last name is McMahon, you're not going to be jetting everywhere you go. You're logging in long hours behind the wheel for 40 to 50 weeks of the year doing almost 200 shows.
That being said, is it WWE's fault for having such a hectic work and travel schedule? Not really. Clowns, elephants, lions, tigers and acrobats have been doing it under a tent for more than a century.
Granted, it's easy for any young fan to say this would be the dream life to live. But let's remember that most of these stars have friends, wives, husbands and children. They have real lives, and being on the road for such long periods of time can have a negative effect on such lives.
Kudos to Brock for making the decision to quit now rather than mail in half-assed efforts as the months or years go by.
The third reaction: How could Brock Lesnar walk out on the company after all they've done for him?
Brock doesn't owe anyone anything. In his brief, two-year stint the 26-year-old has given us nothing but memorable matches and moments. Who could forget his impressive array of squashes when he debuted? His victories over such stars as Hulk Hogan, The Rock, The Undertaker and Kurt Angle? How about 'ring-breaking' suplex with Big Show last summer?
At his young age, the only direction Brock could go was up. He was nowhere near the point of his career where he should be passing the torch to someone else. If anything, Brock's absence will pave the way for other stars to grab the spotlight.
The only thing Brock owes us is a Shooting Star Press, and that should come on Sunday night.
All the best to you for the future, Brock. And if life outside of wrestling doesn't quite work out, I think it's safe to say you can always come back.
For TSN.ca/wrestling, I'm K-Dogg from the Spanish Announce Table. Enjoy WrestleMania, everyone.
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"Not sure why people are defending him. He's leaving the business. He's turning his back on YOU the fans, cause the travel is rough. Fuck that, make your million or 2 a year and deal with it for long enough to say you had a real career in the wwe."
why am i defending him? because few people other than myself realise that these wrestlers ARE HUMAN AND THAT WRESTLING IS THERE JOB!!!
haven't any of you felt like quitting your job because it sucks?I'm sure u have and might have quit but ur lucky that u don't have millions of people who criticise ur every move
Brock is human and he feels that he made a mistake , wrestling is not for him and he wants out , we all make mistakes don't we?
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Brock isn't quitting because he doesn't like wrestling, he's quitting because he doesn't like the travel
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"Brock isn't quitting because he doesn't like wrestling, he's quitting because he doesn't like the travel"
ughh i meant the whole package that comes with pro-wrestling (travel etc)
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I don't hate Brock, I just hate the fact that the wwe offered him EVERYTHING he could want, and it still wasn't enough to keep him. Just doesn't sit well with the "fan" in me. It's my opinion, I'm not trying to force it on anyone.
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Lesnar story doubted story from www.slam.ca/wrestling
According to a report in the ‘Star Tribune’ newspaper out of Minneapolis - St. Paul, Minnesota, the NFL’s Minnesota Vikings have heard the news like everyone else but nothing is in the works with Lesnar. Mike Tice, the coach of the Vikings, told reporter Mark Craig that the franchise hasn’t even spoken to Lesnar but it is true the team is looking for a defensive lineman.
Lesnar’s college wrestling coach also told the ‘Star Tribune’ that he doesn’t put any stock in the rumour as Lesnar has expressed an interest in a football career before but never explored the option.
"He's making millions in wrestling; he just bought a plane," Gophers wrestling coach J Robinson said. "What would you do? Give it all up with no guarantee of making it in the NFL? I think they're trying to hype WrestleMania."
Earlier this week, news circulated that Lesnar made his retirement announcement to the entire Smackdown! staff before the taping on Tuesday night. It is claimed that he cited stress and the travel schedule as the main reasons why his match at WrestleMania XX will be his last. Since Lesnar's foe at 'Mania - Bill Goldberg - is rumoured to be leaving the WWE after the event, some believe the Lesnar story is all a work to inject interest into the match.