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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: Nima - Dubcnn.com on March 12, 2004, 11:46:42 AM
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seriously, name me ONE person who can touch him SKILL, TALENT and INTELLIGENCE wise.
im not sayin hes my FAV rapper, but hes the BEST, IMO.
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im not sayin hes my FAV rapper, but hes the BEST, IMO.
same here
Tash is my fav but he isnt the best
but Ras Kass is def. the best mc
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I'm with y'all. Pac is my favorite all-time and Crooked I is my favorite right now, but Ras is THE greatest lyricist ever. Period.
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he isn't my favorite, but if you say best by the raps that he creates, I agree. he has amazing lyrics, and makes them rhyme, and they are intelligent and teach a lesson or tell a story. Just sit back and listen, and how can you not just say: "damn, that was amazing, you gotta be one smart mutha fucka to come up with that:
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Yeah,probably.He's got the lyrics but he ain't got the beats,I mean seriously,his songs are cool,the beats are pretty good but he should do more stuff like the Golden Child Remix.He should be doing straight underground shit with all them scratches & stuff like that.Those beats fit him the best.Just listen to Spit Venemous.
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Yeah,probably.He's got the lyrics but he ain't got the beats,I mean seriously,his songs are cool,the beats are pretty good but he should do more stuff like the Golden Child Remix.He should be doing straight underground shit with all them scratches & stuff like that.Those beats fit him the best.Just listen to Spit Venemous.
yeah, he should fuck more with those underground crews IMO, like hieroglyphics, likwit (props for your sig taz ;)), viosnaries (their previous collab was tite as hell), living legends, etc.
a song by Madlib and Ras Kass would prolly be some g.o.a.t. song material if theyre doing it right
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seriously, name me ONE person who can touch him SKILL, TALENT and INTELLIGENCE wise.
im not sayin hes my FAV rapper, but hes the BEST, IMO.
Ras Kass and intelligence in the same phrase? Man something is wrong! He's probably to be considered the dumbest rapper ever. For real! If you talk about his lyrics, yeah they are tight, maybe he's the best lyricist ever, yeah. But c'mon.. cut the word intelligence!
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I dunno, I think thats taking it abit far saying hes the greatest ever...
I respect your opinion but Im always gonna say BIG was the best who ever did it.
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seriously, name me ONE person who can touch him SKILL, TALENT and INTELLIGENCE wise.
im not sayin hes my FAV rapper, but hes the BEST, IMO.
Ras Kass and intelligence in the same phrase? Man something is wrong! He's probably to be considered the dumbest rapper ever. For real! If you talk about his lyrics, yeah they are tight, maybe he's the best lyricist ever, yeah. But c'mon.. cut the word intelligence!
dude is one of the knowledgable persons ive talked to.. believe me, hes very intelligent. i know why u are saying that and we're not discussing DUI now, we're talkin bout hiphop
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props for your sig taz
I feel I've got a duty since I'm a mod,that's how I do it :)
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props for your sig taz
I feel I've got a duty since I'm a mod,that's how I do it :)
haha, yeah, thats cool :)
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greatest ever no
best rapper alive yes
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seriously, name me ONE person who can touch him SKILL, TALENT and INTELLIGENCE wise.
im not sayin hes my FAV rapper, but hes the BEST, IMO.
Ras Kass and intelligence in the same phrase? Man something is wrong! He's probably to be considered the dumbest rapper ever. For real! If you talk about his lyrics, yeah they are tight, maybe he's the best lyricist ever, yeah. But c'mon.. cut the word intelligence!
Nima's right,Ras Kass is hella intelligent,Ras prooved this quite a few times,I ain't gonna say any examples,but i'm tellin you,he is intelligent.
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props for your sig taz
I feel I've got a duty since I'm a mod,that's how I do it :)
haha, yeah, thats cool :)
I got this shit up on other forums too.
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Ras is THE greatest lyricist ever. Period
peace
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seriously, name me ONE person who can touch him SKILL, TALENT and INTELLIGENCE wise.
im not sayin hes my FAV rapper, but hes the BEST, IMO.
Ras Kass and intelligence in the same phrase? Man something is wrong! He's probably to be considered the dumbest rapper ever. For real! If you talk about his lyrics, yeah they are tight, maybe he's the best lyricist ever, yeah. But c'mon.. cut the word intelligence!
dude is one of the knowledgable persons ive talked to.. believe me, hes very intelligent. i know why u are saying that and we're not discussing DUI now, we're talkin bout hiphop
Yeah. I know what you mean. I just cant call him intelligent. He's knowledgable, that's the right word.
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Lyrics wise he`s good , far from the best . And as best rapper ever , hell no ! A great mc should have charisma , original flow and good use of his/hers voice , great lyrics and personality . Ras Kass lacks many of thoose things
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obviously you haven't heard much ras kass if you don't think he is intelligent. getting a dui has nothing to do with intelligence. when you are drunk, no matter who u are, and how smart you are, you tend to make bad decisions. Especially the people who "seem" the smartest. such as someone who gets straight A's thru HS, goes to a great college on the eastcoast, but hardly ever parties. How do u think they would act when drunk? Probably a lot dumber than someone like me, who is not that scholarly, but I do party a lot.
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seriously, name me ONE person who can touch him SKILL, TALENT and INTELLIGENCE wise.
How do you see the difference between skill and talent?
And he's far from the best rapper ever. If you don't considered consistency, impact, influence, albums and longevity and it's just based on skills then he'd be in my top twenty. If you don't consider flow, voice and delivery and just focus on how he is as a lyricist then he'd be in my top ten, probably five.
And to answer the question, Rakim.
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obviously you haven't heard much ras kass if you don't think he is intelligent. getting a dui has nothing to do with intelligence. when you are drunk, no matter who u are, and how smart you are, you tend to make bad decisions. Especially the people who "seem" the smartest. such as someone who gets straight A's thru HS, goes to a great college on the eastcoast, but hardly ever parties. How do u think they would act when drunk? Probably a lot dumber than someone like me, who is not that scholarly, but I do party a lot.
Sorry but this is what i call an excuse! Nobody told him to drink all that shit. If he's as intelligent as you say, he'd have known that it's wrong to drink like that. A mature man doesnt do that. Cause, like you said, when you do that, you tend to make bad decisions and to loose your control. Saddest thing is that sometimes you do something negative to you, sometimes you do something negative to somebody else. But still.. if you intelligent, then you dont put yourself in that situation. I drink, but i never got drunk. I'm intelligent. Not Ras Kass. Please!
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^lmaooo @ tha non-smokin, non-drinkin ass L7s up in this bitch......
I use 2 fuc wit this bitch, 4.2 gpa, 1st in her school, fine as fuc, got her license and got a DUI tha second week......
People make wrong choices, DUI is 1 of tha stupidest, but no way U can base a person's IQ & Intelligence on that particular decision......maybe ACB has had 1 of his people in a DUI case.....I have too, had a homie die over and another homie in prison as we speak......I'm not trying 2 justify anything, just speakin on wats real.....
Rass Kass is tha shit.
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Ras Kass did have a prior vehicular manslaughter charge on his record (he killed someone) as well as another DUI. So it's three strikes. I like Kass, but he's done the crime and been caught for it 3 times. He has killed someone. Plus he runned away from the police. I understand you mentality. I fuck with ppl with your mentality like everyday. You are an open book to me when you talk like that (cause i've heard it thousands of times). But in the real word, that's something stupid enought to say it's WRONG to say no rappers alive are more intelligent than him. Nima explained me he was referring to his lyrics, then ok. Even if the whole "Catch me if you can" thing was dumb, but ok. I got him. But please dont say not to judge the intelligence of some1 by a DUI.
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I agree with you Nima. Ras is definitly one of the most talented mc's, no question.
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ras kass is damn tight...but the best????...maybe
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ras kass is damn tight...but the best????...maybe
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one of the best ever,I heard van gough recently and I must say,it's a shame that priority never put that out.
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Only Song I´ve Heard Of Ras Kass Iz GHETTO FABOLOUSn With Mack 10 And Dr.Dre..Tyte Song..Everybody´s Talkin`About How Great He Iz Lyrically And Shit..Send Sum Tyte Lyric Quotes By Ras.
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Only Song I´ve Heard Of Ras Kass Iz GHETTO FABOLOUSn With Mack 10 And Dr.Dre..Tyte Song..Everybody´s Talkin`About How Great He Iz Lyrically And Shit..Send Sum Tyte Lyric Quotes By Ras.
my favorite lol:
"i say some shit so nasty i make lil kim blush"
he has many more, and way better ones, but this is my favorite one
oh yea, another
"if ure looking for sympathy, u better look between the R and T, in the fucking dictionairy"
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First, knowledge doesnt have much shit to do with intelligence.
Second I dont think his material is THAT amazing.. not at all.. dont get how he and the best MC ever can be named in one sentence, but since yall agree on that, maybe Im wrong.
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seriously, name me ONE person who can touch him SKILL, TALENT and INTELLIGENCE wise.
CANIBUS
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seriously, name me ONE person who can touch him SKILL, TALENT and INTELLIGENCE wise.
CANIBUS
hehe i knew some1 would say that.. i dunno, 'bus just bores me
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Yeah i like Bis more too.
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Nas: skill, talent & intelligence.
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Nas: skill, talent & intelligence.
Nas too, yeah.
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Yeah Ras is definitely up there as one of the best ever. His only problem for me is consistancy. Sometimes he completly blows me away on a track and seems untouchable, and then you listen to some of his songs and he just sounds like any rapper. If he could consistantly put out dope material then he would definitely have a good claim to best ever.
Favourite Ras quote:
"You ain't dope just cause you sniff if, or lace your blunt wit it,
That just makes you a wack rapper, and a drug addict, get it"
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You all knew i had to make an appearance in this thread since i have been reppin Ras for time...
;D
Not gonna bother saying why he's my fav rapper but instead im just gonna list my top 4 MCs ever.
1) Ras Kass (SOI is my best album ever)
2) Chino
3) Bus
4) Nas.
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You all knew i had to make an appearance in this thread since i have been reppin Ras for time...
Man with that pic in your sig you can make an appearance in every threads, lol! :o 8)
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Man with that pic in your sig you can make an appearance in every threads, lol! :o 8)
lol
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my fav is Dre.. and D.O.C., Ren..
but yes, i agree, ras is the best
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drink listerine/brush my teeth with amphetamine/so i can sound fresh/and say dope things in between
tite as fuck!!!
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Pharoahe Monch >=< Ras Kass
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seriously, name me ONE person who can touch him SKILL, TALENT and INTELLIGENCE wise.
im not sayin hes my FAV rapper, but hes the BEST, IMO.
Kool G Rap
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yea the people who can come close to me are Nas, Pharaoh, maybe bus
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seriously, name me ONE person who can touch him SKILL, TALENT and INTELLIGENCE wise.
im not sayin hes my FAV rapper, but hes the BEST, IMO.
This seems to be the general consensus...why? Probably because he's got the raw skills but he doesn't how to make a good song that people can like and relate to...I dont mean he doesn't know how to make club hits, I mean songs that people ENJOY LISTENING TO. As far as intelligence goes, he's definitely got a vocabulary and he's well-versed in history, but I've also heard him say some extremely ignorant things about whites and Jews that don't do anything but make him look stupid and upset that he's never blown up bigtime. On "I Aint Fuckin With You" from Rasassination, he said "fuck white people in general"...not only ignorant but probably taking away from his sales too. You wanna know what I think the best Ras Kass lyric is? "Damn, wishing we was still little kids/ But we grown men now homie, it is what it is" from It Is What It Is. Why? Not because it was lyrically complex and mind-blowing, because you can relate it and just be like "damn Ras really drove the point home with that". I think every rapper, whether consciously or sub-consciously, plays a role, they have a character that they portray to the public based on what they say or do, and the character Ras portrays doesn't seem like a pleasant character that people can identify or even want to try to understand.
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'take ya on Jerry Springer and beat your ass legally' lol
but he spits too many rhymes to do with Pac...'Come with me, like T U P A C'... heard that 50 times from Ras Kass...
Definately spits some ill lines, but Im behind the Nas movement in this thread. Prefer Ras over Canibus though, never ever liked Canibus, skilled rapper, but never got into him
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Canibus is not intelligent, you can tell that from interviews. He's a dictionary MC that uses big words for the sake of it and some times doesn't even make sense.
It's legibly unimaginable, mathematically incalculable
Inextricably infalible
Let's not forget utterly impossible or
Morally unsermountable to assume that I could lose if I battled you
^^^ Gimme a fucking break
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^ kurupt is also guilty of that.. canibus can come tight too tho, i just dont like his voice.
You wanna know what I think the best Ras Kass lyric is? "Damn, wishing we was still little kids/ But we grown men now homie, it is what it is" from It Is What It Is. Why? Not because it was lyrically complex and mind-blowing, because you can relate it and just be like "damn Ras really drove the point home with that".
damn i been bumpin rasassination and that track (mostly for the beat though :D)along with interview with a vampire a lot lately.. look back a few weeks i put up a post saying i.w.a.v is deeper than nature of the threat.
ras is my favourite mc, no doubt. normally i'm more a beats and flow person, than one into lyrical depth..
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'take ya on Jerry Springer and beat your ass legally' lol
eminem says that on role model, whos is that originaly,??? who copied who??
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ooops my bad, thats the Em line
Ras says 'Everynight is off the ringer, thats guarenteed, just like a fist fight on Jerry Springer'
i think lol
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^ was just gonna post the same
Every day of my life is off the ringer
That's guaranteed, like a fistfight on Jerry Springer
I got the hottest flow to hit the street since lava
So holla, we all hustle for dollar dollars
from ghetto fabulous
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Ras Kass has the lyrics...He doesn't have the flow, voice, and/or charisma to be the best rapper...To be the best, you need the total package.