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Title: Dre goin to abandon Detox
Post by: Throwback on March 24, 2004, 07:34:18 AM
he aint gonna drop this album :(

http://www.sohh.com/thewire/read.php?contentID=5670
Title: Re:Dre goin to abandon Detox
Post by: Don Seer on March 24, 2004, 07:37:23 AM
damn we had this rumour in another form recently where 50 said he was dropping it, and having all the beats..
Title: Re:Dre goin to abandon Detox
Post by: platinumk777 on March 24, 2004, 07:37:50 AM
what a waste
Title: Re:Dre goin to abandon Detox
Post by: CRAFTY on March 24, 2004, 07:39:58 AM
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Dre will now have more time to work on a slew of up and coming projects

True, but that shouldn't be a reason to give up Detox. We've been waiting for a while now on that album, why not wait a (few) year(s) more, it's allright with me!

Damn...this is very bad news.
Title: Re:Dre goin to abandon Detox
Post by: T-Dogg on March 24, 2004, 07:55:08 AM
A damn shame... :-\
Title: Re:Dre goin to abandon Detox
Post by: Hatesrats™ on March 24, 2004, 07:59:51 AM
Danm!!

no "Say Hi to the Bad guy" Crooked I
"OH my God" Rakim
& now "Detox"...lol

^^3 of the most talked about^^
over the last couple of years.. :-\

Hip-hop is getting stale now!!!
most of the newer act's suck...IMO
Popular music swallow's

Oh well there's always the shelf...
Hatesrats 2oooIV
Title: Re:Dre goin to abandon Detox
Post by: UKnowWhatItIs: welcome to my traps....game over on March 24, 2004, 08:02:21 AM
WTF?What an asshole!He better release this shit,fuuuuuuuuuuuuuck!WTF was he thinkin?!WWWWWWTTTTTTTTTFFFFFFFFFFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!Tell me God damn it!Fuck them others,he gotta release this shit!Man,WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!????????
Title: Re:Dre goin to abandon Detox
Post by: Adam Donnelly on March 24, 2004, 08:12:37 AM
Bet Jimmy said
'Lets just put Busta out'  >:(
Title: Re:Dre goin to abandon Detox
Post by: SGV on March 24, 2004, 08:37:23 AM
*Watches Dre give away his best beats to East Coast acts*


Title: Re:Dre goin to abandon Detox
Post by: Hittman2001 on March 24, 2004, 08:43:02 AM
maybe he'll put out another aftermath compilation instead...which is what his albums are anyway
Title: Re:Dre goin to abandon Detox
Post by: Leggy Hendrix on March 24, 2004, 08:53:26 AM
why does dre do this?first rakim now this.but i suppose he'll be putting in some serious work with em, busta, game, 50, lloyd banks, young buck and stat quo all working on albums
Title: Re:Dre goin to abandon Detox
Post by: T-Dogg on March 24, 2004, 08:58:11 AM
maybe he'll put out another aftermath compilation instead...which is what his albums are anyway

A kind of hasty generalization that one, taken that he's only released one solo album under the label and the only Aftermath artists on it besides himself were Hittman and Eminem. With Eminem on 2 tracks, at that. The rest of the features didn't have anything to do with the label besides being artists Dre worked with before.
Title: Re:Dre goin to abandon Detox
Post by: Hittman2001 on March 24, 2004, 09:23:16 AM
yeah, thats my bad, i worded it wrong.  but, this news is starting to sink in.  hopefully we'll get more than one aftermath release a year, and probably never hear a dre produced album ever again.  so hopefully that means we should be hearing about at least 4-5 dre produced tracks for every aftermath artist coming out (stat quo, the game, eve, busta, eminem, 50, and that joint deal he has with the governor)  maybe this will all work out for the better when it comes to a business standpoint...but from a fan's standpoint i'm very upset about this news.  detox was what i was looking forward to after rakim's album...but now that both ain't happening i dont know where i stand when it comes to following rap music anymore.  i think mellowman needs to come on here and explain.  first rakim, now this, after being hyped up so much i feel we need some type of explanation.
Title: Re:Dre goin to abandon Detox
Post by: Conan on March 24, 2004, 09:23:25 AM
Hmm, maybe I'm analysing this situation a little too much...but it isn't it a possibility that this could be a publicity stunt? There's no question that once this issue of 'XXL' hits the shelves Dre's supposed announcement will cause an uproar in the rap world. If he hears just how badly people were anticipating his final release it might give him the push that he needs to go full-steam on the project. It would certainly do his career no bad publicity-wise, as his name will be in a lot of people's mouths after this, but I don't think its a good move to pull on his fans. I dunno, I don't think he'd be so quick to drop the apparently large amount of material that was recorded in consideration to make ''Detox''. If he ever drops the album after making this news it is safely assured that A LOT of people will pick it up.
Title: Re:Dre goin to abandon Detox
Post by: AlerG on March 24, 2004, 09:59:46 AM
damn, this is wack...dre should sign to shady, lol they don't seem to have trouble putting out any album they want, peace.
Title: Re:Dre goin to abandon Detox
Post by: Danté Williams on March 24, 2004, 10:24:11 AM
All that "too busy" shit, mayne I don't buy it. How many beats a year does Dre make? Can't he work on his own album meanwhile? Every other producer/rapper do it.

Anyway, I don't believe that rumor, he'll drop the album whenever he wants. And that'll be 2005.
Title: Re:Dre goin to abandon Detox
Post by: The Predator on March 24, 2004, 10:24:56 AM
I thought Eminem said Detox were'nt gonna be his last album that Dre likes to challenge himself and advance or was that bullshit?

I hope this Detox quit shit aint true and its on hold or something.

No NWA album, no Rakim, no Detox and proably no fuckin Ice Cube produced album.

If this shit is true i hope busta flops.
Title: Re:Dre goin to abandon Detox
Post by: Lil Jay on March 24, 2004, 10:31:04 AM
WTF...who gives a fuck about a busta rhymes album...i want a Dre album god damnit  >:(
Title: Re:Dre goin to abandon Detox
Post by: PLANT on March 24, 2004, 10:53:13 AM
I never got myself hyped up for this album.  Did yall expect it to come out soon or something  ???
Title: Re:Dre goin to abandon Detox
Post by: R-Tistic on March 24, 2004, 11:01:07 AM
I'd rather hear a Dre album than to hear all of these albums: Busta, Eminem, Young Buck, New 50, Lloyd Banks, and the The game. If this is true, Dre is a mark azz faggot. Makes no sense 2 me. I knew it wasn't gonna be out til I am a senior in college, (2005-2006) so I wasn't really anticipatin it because then I'd just get let down a grip of times as always. But fuggit, maybe somebody else from the west needs to step their game up a few notches. Maybe Quik can drop an album that is at the level of Chronic or 2001, he's been close twice and some say he's topped one of em.
Title: Re:Dre goin to abandon Detox
Post by: BL7 on March 24, 2004, 11:22:56 AM
I never got myself hyped up for this album.  Did yall expect it to come out soon or something  ???

My thoughts exactly. ;D
Title: Re:Dre goin to abandon Detox
Post by: SGV on March 24, 2004, 11:24:43 AM
There's plenty of producers out there who produce more than 1 albums worth of beats a year. Dre is on some pussy shit. He's so afraid of failure he refuses to put out beats. I could careless, I think we all knew this album would never drop. Jimmy Iovine calls the shots, Dre does what he's told.
Title: Re:Dre goin to abandon Detox
Post by: D1G1T4L on March 24, 2004, 11:33:29 AM
hm you guys are suprised? he couldnt even find a single beat for 213 project and he is going to release detox? lol
i bet since he didnt give any beats to snoop for his last solo and 213 project, he would sound like a bitch calling snoop and asking him "Hey want to appear on detox" and we all know detox without snoop aint going to be the same
Title: Re:Dre goin to abandon Detox
Post by: PLANT on March 24, 2004, 11:44:30 AM
hm you guys are suprised? he couldnt even find a single beat for 213 project and he is going to release detox? lol
i bet since he didnt give any beats to snoop for his last solo and 213 project, he would sound like a bitch calling snoop and asking him "Hey want to appear on detox" and we all know detox without snoop aint going to be the same
Exactly man...Dre sold out on the coast big time.  He looks stupid IMO.  What he really needs to do is get back to the WC and get off Eminems dick, and 50s dick and fuck all there affiliates D12 and GUnit, and stop doing gay shit with Mary J and Eve.  Dre is being Gay.  WTF is he thinking?  
Title: Re:Dre goin to abandon Detox
Post by: Ðøšïå on March 24, 2004, 12:16:51 PM
my guess would be he is thinking about $$$. And he will get a lot of that if he puts out those other albums.
Title: Re:Dre goin to abandon Detox
Post by: 7even on March 24, 2004, 12:30:26 PM
he's a moron
Title: Re:Dre goin to abandon Detox
Post by: Conan on March 24, 2004, 12:35:20 PM
hm you guys are suprised? he couldnt even find a single beat for 213 project and he is going to release detox? lol
i bet since he didnt give any beats to snoop for his last solo and 213 project, he would sound like a bitch calling snoop and asking him "Hey want to appear on detox" and we all know detox without snoop aint going to be the same
Exactly man...Dre sold out on the coast big time.  He looks stupid IMO.  What he really needs to do is get back to the WC and get off Eminems dick, and 50s dick and fuck all there affiliates D12 and GUnit, and stop doing gay shit with Mary J and Eve.  Dre is being Gay.  WTF is he thinking?  

The way I see it, Dre appears to only be concerned with working with established artists that have already proven themselves to be commercially successful. Its sad to think about it, but it just seems like Dre has given up on the West Coast. It seems like he is not at all concerned with working with Snoop (no production on 213 or 'Paid Tha Cost...'. They were supposed to record a track for the forthcoming Quincy Jones CD but, surprise surprise, it doesn't appear on the track list) and all his former ''projects'' seems to have been abandoned. Think about it: how else do you explain that there is apparently no NEW Dre production on Knoc-turn'al's album (I've heard that all the Dre produced tracks were intended for Knoc's original album and none if it new - although its merely a rumour). Or how about the dropping of Hittman? Or the sudden defection of the Game from a solo Aftermath artist to G-Unit/Aftermath? Matter of fact - how many times have we heard Game over Dre beats? Or how about him never appearing in the video for Xzibit's 'Symphony in X Major' where he not only produced but spat a verse? All goes to suggest that Dre has little time for West Coast artists anymore. Same seems to go for the East Coast too: he tried to experiment with Rakim - but would rather stick to the ''old familiars'' like Em and 50.

Its a sad state of affairs when Dr. Dre, the West Coast's most well-known and influential producer (alongside Quik, who receives nowhere near the level of attention that Dre attains), decides to hand out a load of ''Detox'' considered instrumentals to 50 Cent over the likes of Snoop or Xzibit - or an up-and-comer like Game or Crooked I.

As much as I am a fan of his, I do get the impression that the Doc is a ''yes-man'' to Jimmy Iovine. Take for example the Warren G situation. Dre produces ''Lookin' At You'' off of Warren's ''Return of the Regulator'' and initially features on the track but is mysteriously taken off of the cut for reasons even Warren doesn't know. Was Dre perhaps under the influence of Iovine that he shouldn't appear on a single for an artist that doesn't have the same ''profile'' as he does? Anyway, next thing you know Dre's off of the track - and that's his half-brother!

I dunno, I wonder what goes on inside Dre's head these days. Judging by his current amount of production and guest spots/available tracks I'd guess: not very much.
Title: Re:Dre goin to abandon Detox
Post by: Lord Funk on March 24, 2004, 12:35:35 PM
Here's how I view it...

Dre doesn't have to put out an album to eat off. I'm sure he's sitting on a pile of cash most of us could only dream of - he probably lives quite comfortably off what Em's albums make alone. And as far as I'm aware he's not under any contractual obligation to Interscope to drop another CD.

So the only reason he has for dropping an album is for the sake of it - for the art, for hip-hop.

If he's canning Detox it obviously doesn't mean that much to him. If he doesn't have the heart to record an album, doesn't feel he owes the fans or no longer has the inspiration, then I'd rather he disappears.
Title: Re:Dre goin to abandon Detox
Post by: Conan on March 24, 2004, 12:38:08 PM
Here's how I view it...

Dre doesn't have to put out an album to eat off. I'm sure he's sitting on a pile of cash most of us could only dream of - he probably lives quite comfortably off what Em's albums make alone. And as far as I'm aware he's not under any contractual obligation to Interscope to drop another CD.

So the only reason he has for dropping an album is for the sake of it - for the art, for hip-hop.

If he's canning Detox it obviously doesn't mean that much to him. If he doesn't have the heart to record an album, doesn't feel he owes the fans or no longer has the inspiration, then I'd rather he disappears.

Spot on man. If ''Detox'' doesn't mean that much to him, why let it mean that much to us?
Title: Re:Dre goin to abandon Detox
Post by: way2fonky313 on March 24, 2004, 12:49:32 PM
thats really disappointing. id rather have that over any other album by any artist, besides quik.
Title: Re:Dre goin to abandon Detox
Post by: LyRiCaL_G on March 24, 2004, 12:59:16 PM
man id rather hear dres album....with all the guests on it or without than any of the other albums he workin on...and im lookin forward to all of them, but a dre album is way sicker, only ever comes once in long muthafuckin time sta.....i dont think jimmy had much to say about this, even if jimmy didnt want dre to do detox im sure dre would do what he wants with thsi album, he dont gotta do nuttin fo the rest of his life and he'd still be makin nuff dollarz. but damn, why drop detox this deep into it, dre seems to be givin up or choosin the eazy ways these dayz to quik, choosin to work with cats who know how to do hits and shit rather than upcomin cats who he can mold into stars n shit and what happened to him n snoop man?......no one knows......man dre got all the money in the world man, he could split with jimmy, get with some real niggaz and do his thang instead of workin for this clown......

but we'll see what happens, lets hope dre will still do this and have something to say about detox himself sometime soon.........homie needs to leave his house or the studio once in a while and see whats gwarnin in the world, what the streets be lookin fo.......

man first rakim, now this.......damn...........

oh n yo to the kat who was talkin about his work with knoc, yeah its true, he shit on that was meant for the 1st albu, thats how old it is


i dono what to say about dre anymo man, imma big fan of his to but he needs to realise, if u in the game, u gotta go full steam instead of fuckin around with people and the fans or get the fuck out

peace
Title: Re:Dre goin to abandon Detox
Post by: PhantomChild on March 24, 2004, 01:03:16 PM
Dre can release Detox and just do 2-3 songs,and let the rest of his people do it,I promuse you Hip-Hop isn't that bad as people want you to think,If people like Dre had more hope,we would hear some even greater music than ever before!But on the diily-O,Fuck Dr.Dre! ;D
Title: Re:Dre goin to abandon Detox
Post by: R-Tistic on March 24, 2004, 01:45:44 PM
I say fuggit, and lets just hope Scott Storch and Fred wreck keep droppin heaters.
Title: Re:Dre goin to abandon Detox
Post by: LyRiCaL_G on March 24, 2004, 02:48:26 PM
^^^yes but they aint even close to dre's level.....id rather hear a melman beat over them 2 but wheres he gone since doin nuff shit for dre that never gets released ........i think its pretty sad if he really has said, fuck detox fo real
Title: Re:Dre goin to abandon Detox
Post by: On The Edge of Insanity on March 24, 2004, 04:09:33 PM
This is why Dre can't be considered one of the best producers ever, cause it appears he cares too much about commercial success of projects these days, and now is just giving up on a project cause he is scared of failure. How many Dre productions have we heard recently? Hardly any at all.

People like Quik, DJ Premier, Pete Rock, even Battlecat, consistantly drop dope shit, bring up unestablished artists, and don't care about commercial success as long as they are dropping stuff they consider dope.

Dre has just become a sucker for fame, and to be honest, recently Scott Storch has been making much better Dre sounding beats than Dre himself, and what does that tell you?
Title: Re:Dre goin to abandon Detox
Post by: D1G1T4L on March 24, 2004, 06:29:35 PM
my guess would be he is thinking about $$$. And he will get a lot of that if he puts out those other albums.

man how much money does he need to release something that is not about money? i mean he has been making music forever, donated 1 million dollars to 9/11 victims...... why would he need more money?
Title: Re:Dre goin to abandon Detox
Post by: D1G1T4L on March 24, 2004, 06:46:20 PM
man Scott Storch  and Fred Wreck do hella tight beats, at least we still got them  8)
Title: Re:Dre goin to abandon Detox
Post by: Trauma-san on March 24, 2004, 07:03:04 PM
why does dre do this?first rakim now this.

No, first Ice Cube, Rage, RBX, Nate Dogg, King T, Eve, Hittman, etc. etc. etc. a slew of other people we probably don't even know about, THEN this.  
Title: Re:Dre goin to abandon Detox
Post by: Trauma-san on March 24, 2004, 07:04:55 PM
Dre is a mark azz faggot.

You should think about why 1 man you've never met's decision to not release an album right now makes you assume he's a faggot.  
Title: Re:Dre goin to abandon Detox
Post by: Trauma-san on March 24, 2004, 07:08:05 PM
This is why Dre can't be considered one of the best producers ever,


Read that line again.  Are you really that stupid?  He "can't be considered ONE of the best producers ever" ?  He's EASILY one of the best producers ever, in any category of music, and arguably by anyone the best hiphop producer of all time.  You can argue that one,but there's no question he's ONE of the best, easily.  
Title: Re:Dre goin to abandon Detox
Post by: Eddie G. on March 24, 2004, 07:53:37 PM
Fuck Dre.  He doesnt give a flying fuck about his fans, and he thinks that he can lead everyone around cuz hes supposedly number 1.  Well fuck him, hopefully Dextox will get bootlegged and then we can all enjoy it without him gettin any money from it.  That'll teach him a lesson.
Title: Re:Dre goin to abandon Detox
Post by: smerlus on March 24, 2004, 08:44:36 PM
HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGE blow to the west coast......this just set the westcoast back 3-4 years....cause all i hear on the radio is the same shit.....everyone says the only west you hear on the radio is Dre and Snoop....Snoop already sold out, and now no Dre.......things don't look good at all


Title: Re:Dre goin to abandon Detox
Post by: Darksider on March 24, 2004, 08:49:39 PM
i still think we gonna see the cd....
Title: Re:Dre goin to abandon Detox
Post by: KING VerbalAssaulta on March 24, 2004, 08:52:53 PM
i've been posting it for years that it wouldnt come out(same for oh my god)...dre's lazy  8)
Title: Re:Dre goin to abandon Detox
Post by: Suffice on March 24, 2004, 08:55:17 PM
why are u guys all acting like it's not Dre's fault? The truth of the matter is...Dre is a punk bitch! He's severely overrated, as i'm sure he has a "slew" of ghost-producers like Mel Man, Kon Artis, and Scott Storch who make the majority of his beats. Dre fucked too many people over, and now, he's fucking over all the people who have been waiting for his album. I'm NEVER EVER buying an Aftermath release, even if it's Crooked I or Pharoahe Monch. Fuck Dre
Title: Re:Dre goin to abandon Detox
Post by: Bomb-A® on March 24, 2004, 09:58:52 PM
the only thing more disappointing about dre scrapping detox is that 50 and busta are gonna get all the beats......hope he gives them to game...atleast summ of them



peace
Title: Re:Dre goin to abandon Detox
Post by: SGV on March 24, 2004, 10:32:18 PM
See, everyone now knows what I'm talking about. Dre is severly overrated.
Title: Re:Dre goin to abandon Detox
Post by: MANBEARPIG. on March 24, 2004, 10:41:48 PM
Fuck Dre.  He doesnt give a flying fuck about his fans, and he thinks that he can lead everyone around cuz hes supposedly number 1.  Well fuck him, hopefully Dextox will get bootlegged and then we can all enjoy it without him gettin any money from it.  That'll teach him a lesson.



Hell Yea!
Title: Re:Dre goin to abandon Detox
Post by: eNgIeS on March 24, 2004, 11:33:13 PM
Dre is a mark azz faggot.

You should think about why 1 man you've never met's decision to not release an album right now makes you assume he's a faggot.  

This is why Dre can't be considered one of the best producers ever,


Read that line again.  Are you really that stupid?  He "can't be considered ONE of the best producers ever" ?  He's EASILY one of the best producers ever, in any category of music, and arguably by anyone the best hiphop producer of all time.  You can argue that one,but there's no question he's ONE of the best, easily.  

I agree with what Trauma said. SOme people have no brains, like this idiot i quoted below

See, everyone now knows what I'm talking about. Dre is severly overrated.

SGV I am tired of seeing you write redicolous shit. U think that ur opinion is like a benchmark for hip hop or something, like if u say Dr.Dre is a shit producer, its not just your opinion, its a fact in your mind

Regardless of what u think the proof is in the pudding, Dres produced more hits & classic songs than anyone else in rap, ever. Yes sure he doesnt release as much as others, only coz he wants to put out the best shit, & he spends hours working over the track & putting in or taking out even the smallest things until its just right

You're just another hip hop nazi tryin to controll people

(http://www.timb0.freeservers.com/soup.jpg)

Caption "No Dr. Dre productions for you! GET OUT!"

(http://www.chad-o.com/photos/pre_9-11_nyc/Soup_Nazi_Instructions.jpg)
Title: Re:Dre goin to abandon Detox
Post by: Lil Jay on March 25, 2004, 01:46:21 AM
the only thing more disappointing about dre scrapping detox is that 50 and busta are gonna get all the beats


co-sign. Ill wait for the XXL magazine, hopefully they have a Dre interview about it

hopefully Dextox will get bootlegged and then we can all enjoy it without him gettin any money from it.  That'll teach him a lesson.


LOL thats cold


Title: Re:Dre goin to abandon Detox
Post by: jerrod on March 25, 2004, 06:21:36 AM
DETOX DELAY PT2
Dedicato | 25.03.2004 | 09:22
Dre just putting Detox on hold and he wanna work on his album, according to Aftermath sources. He just pushed the release date back. So you can expect "Detox" in the future. You also can expect the "old" Detox Beats on Games, 50's, Em's, Busta's and Eve's album.
Title: Re:Dre goin to abandon Detox
Post by: Lil Jay on March 25, 2004, 06:35:27 AM
You also can expect the "old" Detox Beats on Games, 50's, Em's, Busta's and Eve's album.



(http://www.wtv-zone.com/fantome/smileys/puke-smiley.gif)
Title: Re:Dre goin to abandon Detox
Post by: T-Dogg on March 25, 2004, 06:42:55 AM
You also can expect the "old" Detox Beats on Games, 50's, Em's, Busta's and Eve's album.



(http://www.wtv-zone.com/fantome/smileys/puke-smiley.gif)

For Game? That's cool. The rest don't really need 'em. I guess 1 or 2 for Em and 50 each wouldn't hurt - fuck it, I'm a fan of theirs - but Busta, Eve... Naw...

But honestly I don't believe just anybody can get Dre's beats. As much as I'd like to hear somebody like Bad Azz or Sly Boogy or some other West Coast talent to spit on Dre's beats, I ain't seeing it happening. Dre is, I guess sadly, at such a high stature that he's out of their reach. They certainly have the talent, but they ain't got the connection. Well at least there's two new guys from the west working with Dre - Knoc & Game.
Title: Re:Dre goin to abandon Detox
Post by: BL7 on March 25, 2004, 06:46:43 AM
You also can expect the "old" Detox Beats on Games, 50's, Em's, Busta's and Eve's album.





(http://www.wtv-zone.com/fantome/smileys/puke-smiley.gif)

 ;D

I don't really mind, though. I like Dre, but outside of his albums & the shit he does for Snoop, I ain't feeling his productions. Plus all the latest shit he produced has been (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/yabbse/YaBBImages/thumbdown.gif)
Title: Re:Dre goin to abandon Detox
Post by: SGV on March 25, 2004, 09:52:31 AM

SGV I am tired of seeing you write redicolous shit. U think that ur opinion is like a benchmark for hip hop or something, like if u say Dr.Dre is a shit producer, its not just your opinion, its a fact in your mind
Damn right! Look at everyones comments. I've been saying the same shit for a minute now. It's before you eyes man. Done whining now?
Title: Re:Dre goin to abandon Detox
Post by: On The Edge of Insanity on March 25, 2004, 11:18:10 AM
Trauma and whoever the other guy was, why does it make me a dumbass to say that Dre isn't one of the best producers ever? Seriously he has produced two album front to back that I consider classic (Chronic and Doggystyle), but since then (even including 2001) he hasn't produced a fully cohesive album by himself. In the early-mid nineties when he was actually hot, he hardly did any beats for other artists (even his fellow Death Row inmates), yet at the back end of the nineties and since 2000 he has been producing for loads of people, but hasn't really made a single beat that has really impressed me, and that I have been able to vibe to.

The truely great hiphop producers are:
Pete Rock
DJ Premier
DJ Muggs
DJ Quik

All of these have produced more dope albums from back to front, and have consistantly produced better beats for other artists than Dre has.

That is why I don't even consider Dre one of the greatest.
Title: Re:Dre goin to abandon Detox
Post by: Don Breezio on March 25, 2004, 11:19:34 AM
Trauma and whoever the other guy was, why does it make me a dumbass to say that Dre isn't one of the best producers ever? Seriously he has produced two album front to back that I consider classic (Chronic and Doggystyle), but since then (even including 2001) he hasn't produced a fully cohesive album by himself. In the early-mid nineties when he was actually hot, he hardly did any beats for other artists (even his fellow Death Row inmates), yet at the back end of the nineties and since 2000 he has been producing for loads of people, but hasn't really made a single beat that has really impressed me, and that I have been able to vibe to.

The truely great hiphop producers are:
Pete Rock
DJ Premier
DJ Muggs
DJ Quik

All of these have produced more dope albums from back to front, and have consistantly produced better beats for other artists than Dre has.

That is why I don't even consider Dre one of the greatest.

Amen
Title: Re:Dre goin to abandon Detox
Post by: Lord Funk on March 25, 2004, 12:53:50 PM
Trauma and whoever the other guy was, why does it make me a dumbass to say that Dre isn't one of the best producers ever? Seriously he has produced two album front to back that I consider classic (Chronic and Doggystyle), but since then (even including 2001) he hasn't produced a fully cohesive album by himself. In the early-mid nineties when he was actually hot, he hardly did any beats for other artists (even his fellow Death Row inmates), yet at the back end of the nineties and since 2000 he has been producing for loads of people, but hasn't really made a single beat that has really impressed me, and that I have been able to vibe to.

The truely great hiphop producers are:
Pete Rock
DJ Premier
DJ Muggs
DJ Quik

All of these have produced more dope albums from back to front, and have consistantly produced better beats for other artists than Dre has.

That is why I don't even consider Dre one of the greatest.

Props... I agree with everything you say. For Dre to still be living off a rep based on what he acheived a decade ago is ridiculous.
Title: Re:Dre goin to abandon Detox
Post by: LyRiCaL_G on March 25, 2004, 01:15:06 PM
man thats bullshit, dre will go down as the best rapper/producer of all time.....and even with all his ghost writers n shit.......dre been pionerrin this shit for years, imo sickest hiphop producer, def the best and will without doubt go down as one of the greatest if not the greatest.....at the end of the day, he'll have his name next to all the others considered great......he already does......dre is the sickest producer no doubt.....i aint even gonna post another comment on this, im jus sayin.....dre aint one of the best?......thats bullshit imo.....
Title: Re:Dre goin to abandon Detox
Post by: biggeazy-e on March 25, 2004, 01:19:29 PM
See, everyone now knows what I'm talking about. Dre is severly overrated.

now that was stupid..... (http://www.layitlow.com/forums/html/emoticons/twak.gif)
Title: Re:Dre goin to abandon Detox
Post by: R-Tistic on March 25, 2004, 02:36:36 PM
Personally, I can see this arguement go from all angles, especially being that I am a producer.

In some ways, it is hard to give him props since there is much suspicion about what he has and hasn't produced over the years, and even back to doggystyle and chronic it's a lot of discussion that he didn't produce some of it. This will make us all wonder, but nobody knows the truth except them. Now IF he didn't do but as much as they say, which is addin some drums, and mixin beats somebody else does, he doesn't deserve as much credit as some give him. Buut...who knows how many other producers have done these types of things? It's coo when people like DJ Quik get somebody to play an instrument on their song, but if a producer does the same thing as Dre and nobody knows it, they don't deserve as much credit either.
Title: Re:Dre goin to abandon Detox
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on March 25, 2004, 10:46:28 PM
Dre doesn't care about the fans...Isn't it obvious?
Title: Re:Dre goin to abandon Detox
Post by: The Predator on March 25, 2004, 10:56:02 PM
Made a million plus and still don't give a motherfuck
Motherfucker I'm Dre - I don't need your respect
I don't need to make another album bitch I don't gotta do shit
I do it because I want to not to stay in the game

 :P :P :P


Title: Re:Dre goin to abandon Detox
Post by: eNgIeS on March 25, 2004, 11:04:35 PM
man thats bullshit, dre will go down as the best rapper/producer of all time.....and even with all his ghost writers n shit.......dre been pionerrin this shit for years, imo sickest hiphop producer, def the best and will without doubt go down as one of the greatest if not the greatest.....at the end of the day, he'll have his name next to all the others considered great......he already does......dre is the sickest producer no doubt.....i aint even gonna post another comment on this, im jus sayin.....dre aint one of the best?......thats bullshit imo.....

Correct
Title: Re:Dre goin to abandon Detox
Post by: eNgIeS on March 25, 2004, 11:35:34 PM

SGV I am tired of seeing you write redicolous shit. U think that ur opinion is like a benchmark for hip hop or something, like if u say Dr.Dre is a shit producer, its not just your opinion, its a fact in your mind
Damn right! Look at everyones comments. I've been saying the same shit for a minute now. It's before you eyes man. Done whining now?


Obviously in your dictionary "everyone" means "a handfull of people"

I dont care if its your opinion, if you dont like Dre's shit thats your choice, but stop talking like its a fact

Your just a punk who's been on the net for years always trying to be "cool" by going against the grain. Werent u the same kid making Death Row Suge dick sucking websites since like 1998-1999?

Wanna be gangsta, wigga as 50 says "you'z a wanksta & you need to stop frontin'"

(http://www.somethingawful.com/cliff/ihateyou/page-136-06.jpg)

Nice to see you wearing red for your boyfriend Suge
Title: Re:Dre goin to abandon Detox
Post by: Game Warden on March 26, 2004, 01:26:25 AM
WTF...who gives a fuck about a busta rhymes album...i want a Dre album god damnit  >:(


^^^Exactly.

I'm sick of busta and his wack ass.

Dre needs to re-entice Ice Cube to comin' back and give him his full attention so we can get the golden age of Rap back.

*throws up the W & plays YOU KNOW HOW WE DO IT - ICE CUBE*
Title: Re:Dre goin to abandon Detox
Post by: Bomb-A® on March 26, 2004, 07:03:49 AM
The truely great hiphop producers are:
Pete Rock
DJ Premier
DJ Muggs
DJ Quik

alrite the dre hating is picking up momentum but saying that muggs is better than dre???? wtf is wrong wit yall

id rather have a game album this yr than dre's. if dre was gonna release detox this yr, some other shady/aftermath album would be pushed back and that would probably be game's. this way a game album sounds closer than it did before. im in no hurry for a dre album. its gonna come and when it does i hope yall bitches are still around here.



peace



peace
Title: Re:Dre goin to abandon Detox
Post by: SGV on March 26, 2004, 01:30:23 PM

SGV I am tired of seeing you write redicolous shit. U think that ur opinion is like a benchmark for hip hop or something, like if u say Dr.Dre is a shit producer, its not just your opinion, its a fact in your mind
Damn right! Look at everyones comments. I've been saying the same shit for a minute now. It's before you eyes man. Done whining now?


Obviously in your dictionary "everyone" means "a handfull of people"

I dont care if its your opinion, if you dont like Dre's shit thats your choice, but stop talking like its a fact

Your just a punk who's been on the net for years always trying to be "cool" by going against the grain. Werent u the same kid making Death Row Suge dick sucking websites since like 1998-1999?

LMAO! Jimmy Iovine? Is that you? Damn, I'm sorry I hurt you so bad.

LMAO @ Me making Deathrow websites. Ask Nima, he had to teach me all the code and shit for Dubcnn. I wouldn't know the first thing about making a website. You're an extreme homo.
Title: Re:Dre goin to abandon Detox
Post by: Bramsterdam (see ya) on March 26, 2004, 08:01:57 PM
A damn shame... :-\
Title: Re:Dre goin to abandon Detox
Post by: D1G1T4L on March 26, 2004, 08:05:52 PM
he should give all the beats to Ice Cube and Snoop
Title: Re:Dre goin to abandon Detox
Post by: eNgIeS on March 26, 2004, 10:33:48 PM

SGV I am tired of seeing you write redicolous shit. U think that ur opinion is like a benchmark for hip hop or something, like if u say Dr.Dre is a shit producer, its not just your opinion, its a fact in your mind
Damn right! Look at everyones comments. I've been saying the same shit for a minute now. It's before you eyes man. Done whining now?


Obviously in your dictionary "everyone" means "a handfull of people"

I dont care if its your opinion, if you dont like Dre's shit thats your choice, but stop talking like its a fact

Your just a punk who's been on the net for years always trying to be "cool" by going against the grain. Werent u the same kid making Death Row Suge dick sucking websites since like 1998-1999?

LMAO! Jimmy Iovine? Is that you? Damn, I'm sorry I hurt you so bad.

LMAO @ Me making Deathrow websites. Ask Nima, he had to teach me all the code and shit for Dubcnn. I wouldn't know the first thing about making a website. You're an extreme homo.

If Jimmy Iovine lives in Australia & has been posting on WCC since the day it began (also associated with overseer & other board vets on the Dre2001 forums), then I guess I am him ::)

Must have got you confused with someone else, u ever Death Row dick ride though coz i'm pretty sure thats where i remember your name from, from ages ago even

& wow look at the maturity, i guess since i'm Jimmy Iovine so I must be attracted to guys, hold on not attracted, EXTREMELY ATTRACTED ::) yep sure

& you dodged the rest of the post, why dont have the balls to confront it ?
Title: Re:Dre goin to abandon Detox
Post by: The Watcher on March 29, 2004, 05:30:58 PM
http://www.allhiphop.com/hiphopnews/?ID=2996

Dre said he will never record another studio album again. His last effort was Chronic 2001, which was released in November of 1999.
Title: Re:Dre goin to abandon Detox
Post by: PhantomChild on March 29, 2004, 05:54:13 PM
See, everyone now knows what I'm talking about. Dre is severly overrated.

You right!You Right!

Dr.Dre hasn't dropped a classic album ever!Ya'll need to stop getting irate about about punk ass dre dropping this bullshit!DJ Slip,BC Powda,Ronnie Ron,Quik,are way better producers than this clown!Payce!
Title: Re:Dre goin to abandon Detox
Post by: PhantomChild on March 29, 2004, 05:58:18 PM
WTF...who gives a fuck about a busta rhymes album...i want a Dre album god damnit  >:(


^^^Exactly.

I'm sick of busta and his wack ass.

Dre needs to re-entice Ice Cube to comin' back and give him his full attention so we can get the golden age of Rap back.

*throws up the W & plays YOU KNOW HOW WE DO IT - ICE CUBE*

Plaesssssssssse!Ice Cube's wack ass fell-off imo in '92.What the WC needs is *No More Wack-Ass Hollywood Sellouts!"