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Lifestyle => Sports & Entertainment => Topic started by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on April 01, 2004, 03:30:31 PM
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I hope everyone is clear on this...It was a Roman official who made the decision to have Jesus executed...I think mostly everyone knows this by now, after all the drama this film has caused, but I'm just making sure.
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Who cares, great film. lol
Does it really matter though, nobdoy alive can actually say what is accurate or not so it might as well just be left as it is.
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I'm just saying, as to what I've read and heard from historians...PeACe
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Maybe we watched different movies, but the Passion I saw had a roman official okay his death. Influenced by Jewish pressure, which is accurate.
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Maybe we watched different movies, but the Passion I saw had a roman official okay his death. Influenced by Jewish pressure, which is accurate.
The movie made it look as if Jews forced Romans to kill Jesus, hence people claiming the movie to be anti-Semitic.
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I didn't take it that way at all. Pressure or not, the romans were the one with the authority to make the decision. Otherwise the jews would have killed him themselves. People who say the movie is anti semitic in my opinion are being over sensitive. What happened, happened. I don't understand why it's a big deal anyways. Ya'll don't believe in Jesus as the son of god anyways so why does it matter if he's just another man? Doesn't make sense to me.
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I honestly don't care, I liked the movie...I was just pointing that out.
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If you didn't care, then why did you take the time to make a thread about it?
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In the Bible it says the Jews where chanting for Piolt to kill Jesus.
Many Rabbis have said that this movie isn't anti-semetic
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there are inacuracies in the passion....but they're VERY small, and all deal with the devil in the movie .
but in the bible it says that pilot gave the people(the jews) the chance to have a known killer and theif or jesus freed....and the jews chose the killer. then pilot washed his hands to this and let the people have what they wanted.
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I hope everyone is clear on this...It was a Roman official who made the decision to have Jesus executed...I think mostly everyone knows this by now, after all the drama this film has caused, but I'm just making sure.
The movie doesn't portray that the Jews had Jesus killed. The Bible, and the movie, both suggest that Pilate had Christ killed, but as mentioned above, Pilate apparently didn't want to do it.... He had a council with Christ, and asked him if he had told people he was the son of God... Christ said "Whom do you say I am?" or something like that... Later, Pilate said "I find no fault in this man", but DID have Christ crucified, because there were thronging crowds demanding it. He even tried to let Christ go, by asking the Jews whom they would have him release, Jesus, or a thief he had in prison, and they all chanted the thief should be released. That's how the movie portrays it, and that's how the bible portrays it. Don't get so uptight, nobody hates Jews over that, it was the plan from before the existance of the earth for Christ to die in that manner.
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I'm not getting uptight, I'm just stating my belief.
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The movie was incredible . Jesus went through all that shit so we can be saved . And Mel Gibson is a genius
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I'm not getting uptight, I'm just stating my belief.
So let me get this straight. You're a jew; and as such, don't accept the new testament or the gospels describing Christ's last days. You don't even accept he's christ; and based on that, say "this movie's inaccurate", lie about what happened in the movie, and then when it's pointed out that the movie is exactly in line with what the New Testament says, you say "I'm just stating my belief"? Who's the one being inaccurate here? You're the one saying things are in the movie that clearly *ARENT in the movie.
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but in the bible it says that pilot gave the people(the jews) the chance to have a known killer and theif or jesus freed....and the jews chose the killer. then pilot washed his hands to this and let the people have what they wanted.
Thats exactly how i thought it was...
and trauma.. Nobody hates the jews over the death of christ... lol...
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I'm not getting uptight, I'm just stating my belief.
So let me get this straight. You're a jew; and as such, don't accept the new testament or the gospels describing Christ's last days. You don't even accept he's christ; and based on that, say "this movie's inaccurate", lie about what happened in the movie, and then when it's pointed out that the movie is exactly in line with what the New Testament says, you say "I'm just stating my belief"? Who's the one being inaccurate here? You're the one saying things are in the movie that clearly *ARENT in the movie.
Are you that stupid? Do you think so many people were claiming the movie was anti-Semitic for no reason? Mel Gibson, whos father is an open anti-semite, was clearly interpreting the bible in his own anti-Semitic way...EVERYTHING was exaggerated as to how it was written...Church's have even apoligized, and put out statements that the Jews were not to blame for the death of Jesus...And your gunna come here and tell me that it's 100% accurate? Get the fuck out of here.
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It's a movie. You were not there, so how can you claim if it is or is not accurate? For every minister you claim to have heard apologizing about it's content, I've heard another claiming that it probably was even more brutal. No one knows, so why try to claim its inaccurate?
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EVERYBODY that i know blames the Jews i never heard anybody except outside this bored blame the romans
im just saying tho...
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but in the bible it says that pilot gave the people(the jews) the chance to have a known killer and theif or jesus freed....and the jews chose the killer. then pilot washed his hands to this and let the people have what they wanted.
Thats exactly how i thought it was...
and trauma.. Nobody hates the jews over the death of christ... lol...
I don't hate Jews. I even have a few Jew friends. Never had anything against them.
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No one knows, so why try to claim its inaccurate?
It's my opinion... ::)
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lol, okay nik, I'm glad you started a thread trying to inform the masses about the inaccuracies of the movie... in your opinion.
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I didn't take it that way at all. Pressure or not, the romans were the one with the authority to make the decision. Otherwise the jews would have killed him themselves. People who say the movie is anti semitic in my opinion are being over sensitive. What happened, happened. I don't understand why it's a big deal anyways. Ya'll don't believe in Jesus as the son of god anyways so why does it matter if he's just another man? Doesn't make sense to me.
I agree
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I'm not getting uptight, I'm just stating my belief.
So let me get this straight. You're a jew; and as such, don't accept the new testament or the gospels describing Christ's last days. You don't even accept he's christ; and based on that, say "this movie's inaccurate", lie about what happened in the movie, and then when it's pointed out that the movie is exactly in line with what the New Testament says, you say "I'm just stating my belief"? Who's the one being inaccurate here? You're the one saying things are in the movie that clearly *ARENT in the movie.
Are you that stupid? Do you think so many people were claiming the movie was anti-Semitic for no reason? Mel Gibson, whos father is an open anti-semite, was clearly interpreting the bible in his own anti-Semitic way...EVERYTHING was exaggerated as to how it was written...Church's have even apoligized, and put out statements that the Jews were not to blame for the death of Jesus...And your gunna come here and tell me that it's 100% accurate? Get the fuck out of here.
Don't argue with the big boys, you're in over your head.
First, Yes, people ARE claiming the movie's anti-semitic for no reason. Mel Gibson's dad is Mel Gibson's dad; not Mel Gibson. You should be intelligent enough to discover that one on your own. "Everything was exxagerated to how it was written". .. give me 1 example. Church's have apologized... for what? They didn't have anything to do with the movie. When have I said it's 100% accurate? I said it's inline with the New Testament, which you don't believe in! So, you get the hell out of here. You don't know what your'e talking about, and you don't even hold the same points through the thread.
YOU DONT BELIEVE IN THE NEW TESTAMENT.
If you did, you'd be a christian, not a Jew.
THE MOVIE IS BASED ON THE NEW TESTAMENT.
Therefore, you really don't have any room to comment, do you? To you, a Jew, the entire movie is false.
How do you not understand that? LOL
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couple of churches apologized 2 look sicc and kiss ass....but what tha fuc was they even apologizing about? they was confused just like many priests are....
and NIK, how u gone say shit was exagerrated? u weren't there, maybe it wasn't exagerrated ENOUGH.....lol, shit, no one knows.....according to the new testament dats exactly wat happened, there might have been even more shit goin on dat no one knows about....
and finally like trauma mentioned yur belief is bullshit....it's like sayin tha icing on tha cake is too sweet when u aint even tasted it.....u dont even believe in this movie as a whole, so how can u have a belief in a small detail of it?
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DAYMn TRAUMA, you're the most arrogant person i've ever seen online. If you were so smart you wouldn't be spending hours online proving everybody wrong (in your opinion) and finding random ass websites and posting them all over the place. Anyway, if u think you're building a credibility for yourself and a reputation of a Big Boy, you're mistaken. This is Online, nobody gives a fuck here. Nobody is even gonna meet you in real life, so get a fuckin full time job and stop being such a fuckin asshole to everyone.
And about the movie...do ya'll even actually know if jesus existed??? How the hell do u know? The bible isn't to be taken literally, so maybe jesus is just a character they made up to represent the quintessence of this religion. Maybe Jesus was actually a group of dissidents who started their own religion. All this has been fed 2 u since you were born, and so u think christ was real. But u can't prove it.
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^ Let me show you what I mean by "Big Boys".
You just claimed I was arrogant, but yet you're so arrogant, in 2 sentences you dismiss the faith of a BILLION people worldwide, as well as a BILLION who have died christians.
Who's the arrogant one?
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if he even knows what arrogant means....
look here lil cuzzin....ain't no one sure of anything, dats why it's called faith, so respect theirs and they'll respect yours....NIK's faith in this thread doesn't make sense, dats why it got called upon....He is stating that tha Jews weren't that harsh on jesus as it is portrayed in tha movie....but Jews don't even believe what went on in tha movie even happened....so who is he to say if they were harsh or not? he's a jew....he doesn't believe in tha movie 4 god's sake... lol....not so hard 2 understand....
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no, i just belive in common sense, and i don't belive things until i see some facts. Son of God and all that, isn't to be taken literally. People act like jesus was literally son of god. I don't belive in unrealistic things until 1) i see them 2)i get real PROOF
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and finally like trauma mentioned yur belief is bullshit....it's like sayin tha icing on tha cake is too sweet when u aint even tasted it.....u dont even believe in this movie as a whole, so how can u have a belief in a small detail of it?
You and Trauma are both really dumb as fuck if you think Jews don't believe in the story of Jesus...LMAO...We believe Jesus existed, and we believe in the events that went on in the movie...The only thing we don't believe is that he was the son of God...So you basically just killed your whole argument with that last sentence.