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Title: Vibe Magazine
Post by: Mua ha ha on April 22, 2004, 01:08:23 AM
I was checkin out the recent issue of Vibe (with Alicia Keys on the cover), and realized the amount of corporate involvement involved with rap and hip-hop today... Not that it wasn't already apparent. But, (if you have a copy of that issue), flip through it page by page. About 95% of the time, either the left or right page will be an advertisement for something... Shit, the first 10-15 pages are nothing but advertisements anyway. The only two consecutive pages of useful information I saw was in fact, the article on Alicia.

Since I've stopped reading the Sauce a long time ago, I have no clue as to what the magazine looks like today, but the last thing I remember about it is alot of ads and Made Men shit...

I just found that rather weird. Other than that, this topic really has no other purpose.
Title: Re:Vibe Magazine
Post by: Jome on April 22, 2004, 05:46:13 PM
That's American magazine & TV shows..
It's amazing how commercialized it is..

When they air TV-shows like e.g. Jay Leno show over here, duke says "We'll be right back" "Stay tuned" etc. like 15 times in the show, and then the camera fades out, etc.. so when Americans have 15 breaks in 1 show, the average European country have 1-2, or max 3 breaks..

What I guess must be the most annoying for Americans, is when they go to commercials, and when they return: "That's all for today, catch the show tomorrow, good night!!"

Doesn't that piss you off.. ?


Title: Re:Vibe Magazine
Post by: smerlus on April 22, 2004, 05:56:27 PM
i hate on south park where the beginning song plays followed directly by a commercial....the song is what? 1:20 long?
Title: Re:Vibe Magazine
Post by: Trauma-san on April 22, 2004, 05:59:43 PM
^ It's not like that.  I dunno how they edit it for over there, but there definately aren't 15 breaks in a show.

If you've got a half hour show, it starts at like 10 or whatever, they'll take a break at about 10:08, for 2 minutes, then another one at 10:20 or so, then end the show at 10:28.  SOMETIMES, they'll go to a commercial at 10:27, come back at 10:29, and then start the next show immediately after the previous one finishes up (credits, etc.).

So usually, there are 3 breaks in a half hour.  Most half hour shows are actually 24 minutes long, not counting the 6 minutes of commercials during and after.  two 2 minute breaks, and 1 2 minute break afterwards.  

A long show like Leno (hour long) will have a break at 10:08 or so, another break at 10:22 or so, a break at 10:35 or so, a break at 10:50, and then a break at 10:56, come back and finish up in a minute or two, then commercials afterwards.  The beginning and middle won't have many commercials but they do a lot towards the end of the show.  

So the most commercial breaks you ever have are 6 an hour.
Title: Re:Vibe Magazine
Post by: Trauma-san on April 22, 2004, 06:00:57 PM
i hate on south park where the beginning song plays followed directly by a commercial....the song is what? 1:20 long?

The way they do that is, they end the previous show at 10:59, and then with no commercials, start southpark at 11.  They play the opening song, then go to the commercial they would have gone to at the end of the last hour, that they didn't take.  
Title: Re:Vibe Magazine
Post by: smerlus on April 22, 2004, 06:02:16 PM
i probably thought commercials did play because of how the ccredits role and they are always announcing some shit or another
Title: Re:Vibe Magazine
Post by: Jome on April 22, 2004, 06:23:17 PM
^ It's not like that.  I dunno how they edit it for over there, but there definately aren't 15 breaks in a show.

If you've got a half hour show, it starts at like 10 or whatever, they'll take a break at about 10:08, for 2 minutes, then another one at 10:20 or so, then end the show at 10:28.  SOMETIMES, they'll go to a commercial at 10:27, come back at 10:29, and then start the next show immediately after the previous one finishes up (credits, etc.).

So usually, there are 3 breaks in a half hour.  Most half hour shows are actually 24 minutes long, not counting the 6 minutes of commercials during and after.  two 2 minute breaks, and 1 2 minute break afterwards.  

A long show like Leno (hour long) will have a break at 10:08 or so, another break at 10:22 or so, a break at 10:35 or so, a break at 10:50, and then a break at 10:56, come back and finish up in a minute or two, then commercials afterwards.  The beginning and middle won't have many commercials but they do a lot towards the end of the show.  

So the most commercial breaks you ever have are 6 an hour.

Yeah, I exaggerated when I said 15 breaks..
So you basically have 6 breaks an hour, depending on the show..
The rule over here is 1 break every 30 minutes, so it's 2 an hour..

Means that you have 3 times as many breaks as us..
Each break here is usually 2-3 minutes commercials + 30 seconds selfpromoting their TV-shows.. 3 mins in total.

Title: Re:Vibe Magazine
Post by: 7even on April 22, 2004, 06:32:13 PM
basically the only american programme I watch live is NBA Basketball. other shit I download - with the commercials cut already out of course. Aint no thing with more interrupting than NBA Basketball. The game takes like twice as long, if it's tight maybe even longer LoL than it would without any pause. Over here Soccer is the most common sport to watch, and it has only 15 minutes pause compared to 90 minutes game, only 10 of those 15 minutes are commercials.
Title: Re:Vibe Magazine
Post by: Mua ha ha on April 22, 2004, 10:47:38 PM
Shiet, I think that the only show on TV right now that actually DOES have 15 breaks in it is the Chappelle show... I hate that crap.

But the Season I DVD fuckin kicks ass. Get it if you don't have it. (Although, I do agree that Season II is better than season one... I'll definately buy the SII DVD the day it comes out)...
Title: Re:Vibe Magazine
Post by: Don Breezio on April 22, 2004, 10:50:57 PM
Shiet, I think that the only show on TV right now that actually DOES have 15 breaks in it is the Chappelle show... I hate that crap.

But the Season I DVD fuckin kicks ass. Get it if you don't have it. (Although, I do agree that Season II is better than season one... I'll definately buy the SII DVD the day it comes out)...

yeah they have too many breaks...and i wish they wouldn't show that damn old dude singing "chappelles show" between each one...it sucks though that it does that in the dvd cuz you hear it like every couple minutes and it annoys the fuck out of me
Title: Re:Vibe Magazine
Post by: Trauma-san on April 23, 2004, 09:18:56 AM
^ It's not like that.  I dunno how they edit it for over there, but there definately aren't 15 breaks in a show.

If you've got a half hour show, it starts at like 10 or whatever, they'll take a break at about 10:08, for 2 minutes, then another one at 10:20 or so, then end the show at 10:28.  SOMETIMES, they'll go to a commercial at 10:27, come back at 10:29, and then start the next show immediately after the previous one finishes up (credits, etc.).

So usually, there are 3 breaks in a half hour.  Most half hour shows are actually 24 minutes long, not counting the 6 minutes of commercials during and after.  two 2 minute breaks, and 1 2 minute break afterwards.  

A long show like Leno (hour long) will have a break at 10:08 or so, another break at 10:22 or so, a break at 10:35 or so, a break at 10:50, and then a break at 10:56, come back and finish up in a minute or two, then commercials afterwards.  The beginning and middle won't have many commercials but they do a lot towards the end of the show.  

So the most commercial breaks you ever have are 6 an hour.

Yeah, I exaggerated when I said 15 breaks..
So you basically have 6 breaks an hour, depending on the show..
The rule over here is 1 break every 30 minutes, so it's 2 an hour..

Means that you have 3 times as many breaks as us..
Each break here is usually 2-3 minutes commercials + 30 seconds selfpromoting their TV-shows.. 3 mins in total.



So, if that's true, then how do they play Jay Leno?  Doesn't that screw your schedule all up?  You'd only have 52 minutes of T.V., including the commercials.  All the shows must start 8 minutes earlier every hour over there if they're from America.  
Title: Re:Vibe Magazine
Post by: Jome on April 23, 2004, 01:11:07 PM

So, if that's true, then how do they play Jay Leno?  Doesn't that screw your schedule all up?  You'd only have 52 minutes of T.V., including the commercials.  All the shows must start 8 minutes earlier every hour over there if they're from America.  

It's 50-52 minutes TV, with a 3 minute commercial in the middle of the show, and then 3-4 minutes at the end of the show, + 1-2 minutes selfpromotion, 1 hour in all.

When you have commercials in the end of the show, it's easier to grab a bite, go to the toilet, etc.. you get a little longer, but a lot fewer breaks..
Title: Re:Vibe Magazine
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on April 23, 2004, 04:18:20 PM
I fuckin' hate when they play movies on TV, and every 10 minutes there's a damn commercial break...That's why I never watch movies on TV.
Title: Re:Vibe Magazine
Post by: West C. Connected on April 23, 2004, 05:10:28 PM
Vibe - XXL - The Source


Buy three of them at the same time, you'll notice they're exactly the same.
Title: Re:Vibe Magazine
Post by: Trauma-san on April 23, 2004, 08:39:11 PM

So, if that's true, then how do they play Jay Leno?  Doesn't that screw your schedule all up?  You'd only have 52 minutes of T.V., including the commercials.  All the shows must start 8 minutes earlier every hour over there if they're from America.  

It's 50-52 minutes TV, with a 3 minute commercial in the middle of the show, and then 3-4 minutes at the end of the show, + 1-2 minutes selfpromotion, 1 hour in all.

When you have commercials in the end of the show, it's easier to grab a bite, go to the toilet, etc.. you get a little longer, but a lot fewer breaks..


What i'm saying is, it doesn't add up.  In America, the Leno show is actually only 48 minutes of television.  You're telling me in Sweden or wherever you are, they show 52 minutes of it.  That's impossible, therefore, they must have the same amount of commercials, at least during Leno, which you chastisized us for, that they do in America, or it would fuck up your programming schedule.  
Title: Re:Vibe Magazine
Post by: Jome on April 23, 2004, 09:54:52 PM
What i'm saying is, it doesn't add up.  In America, the Leno show is actually only 48 minutes of television.  You're telling me in Sweden or wherever you are, they show 52 minutes of it.  That's impossible, therefore, they must have the same amount of commercials, at least during Leno, which you chastisized us for, that they do in America, or it would fuck up your programming schedule.  

I checked, and it's actually 55 minutes in total, not 60 mins.
So 48 minutes show, 3 mins commercial in the middle, and 4 mins afterwards.

The show doesn't get so chopped up that way..

Title: Re:Vibe Magazine
Post by: Rain on April 23, 2004, 11:26:36 PM
in Australia its pretty similar to how you've all been describing - 3 breaks per 30 minutes pretty much however the best channel - SBS - has about 7 minutes of commercials between shows and none during the shows that means we get South Park, Pizza, Chappelle Show, Quads, foreign films etc without commercials in the middle which is pretty good
Title: Re:Vibe Magazine
Post by: T-Dogg on April 24, 2004, 05:53:33 AM
The programming schedule doesn't get fucked up at all... Just leave the useless math out of it. There's one break for every 30 minute show. For 45 minute shows there's 2 breaks, for 1 hour shows there's 3. Then after each show there's a bit longer commercial break (or sometimes a 5 minute news flash).

As an example let's take Conan O'Brien. I've noticed that Conan's show has commerical slots always in the same places.

1 - After the 1st sketch/before the first guest
2 - After the 1st guest/before 2nd sketch
3 - After 2nd sketch/before 2nd guest
4 - After 2nd guest/before 3rd guest
5 - after 3rd guest/before "That's our show, good night"

But when they show it here, they only show commercials in slots 1 and 3. Then after the show they have a longer commercial break - go to the bathroom, fix yourself a sandwich, then the next show is on.

Another example - a sitcom. 22 minutes, right? One 3-4 minute break in the middle, another 4-5 minutes after the credits roll.
Title: Re:Vibe Magazine
Post by: Jome on April 24, 2004, 07:11:13 PM
The programming schedule doesn't get fucked up at all... Just leave the useless math out of it. There's one break for every 30 minute show. For 45 minute shows there's 2 breaks, for 1 hour shows there's 3. Then after each show there's a bit longer commercial break (or sometimes a 5 minute news flash).

As an example let's take Conan O'Brien. I've noticed that Conan's show has commerical slots always in the same places.

1 - After the 1st sketch/before the first guest
2 - After the 1st guest/before 2nd sketch
3 - After 2nd sketch/before 2nd guest
4 - After 2nd guest/before 3rd guest
5 - after 3rd guest/before "That's our show, good night"

But when they show it here, they only show commercials in slots 1 and 3. Then after the show they have a longer commercial break - go to the bathroom, fix yourself a sandwich, then the next show is on.

Another example - a sitcom. 22 minutes, right? One 3-4 minute break in the middle, another 4-5 minutes after the credits roll.


I guess Finland have more commercials than Sweden & Norway then..
Denmark have slightly more, but probably not as much as you described.

22-24 minutes sitcoms usually doesn't have breaks at all here.. maybe 20-30 seconds break with self-promotion.. (e.g. Stay tuned for "King of Queens" after Friends and 20 seconds with King of Queens clips..)

Title: Re:Vibe Magazine
Post by: West C. Connected on April 25, 2004, 06:00:24 AM
In the Netherlands it's like this

Fresh Prince of Bel-Air (woohoo old skoooool) starts at 8:00 PM. There's a break at like 8:12 PM till 8:15. It ends at like 8:27 or something, and then there's a break till 8:30 and then the next show starts.
Title: Re:Vibe Magazine
Post by: 7even on April 25, 2004, 07:44:44 AM
In the Netherlands it's like this

Fresh Prince of Bel-Air (woohoo old skoooool) starts at 8:00 PM. There's a break at like 8:12 PM till 8:15. It ends at like 8:27 or something, and then there's a break till 8:30 and then the next show starts.

you got dubbed sitcoms?
Title: Re:Vibe Magazine
Post by: West C. Connected on April 25, 2004, 08:07:58 AM
In the Netherlands it's like this

Fresh Prince of Bel-Air (woohoo old skoooool) starts at 8:00 PM. There's a break at like 8:12 PM till 8:15. It ends at like 8:27 or something, and then there's a break till 8:30 and then the next show starts.

you got dubbed sitcoms?

Subtitles.