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Title: Did Puffy produce Changes by 2pac?
Post by: teecee on May 20, 2004, 09:29:27 AM
Ok, i know, i know Suge and Puff had major beef so it wouldnt make sense, its my boy who wants to know.  I cant argue with him cuz it doesnt actually say who produced the song anywhere.

I mean, it does sample a 80's hit (a diddy specialty) and that does sound like puff on those two lines "i gotta get paid"....etc

does anyone know, cuz i know puff couldnt have did it

also, was this song completed before he died, or after?  i know parts of the verses are from I wonder if heaven got a ghetto, but not all......peace
Title: Re:Did Puffy produce Changes by 2pac?
Post by: .:Hercy Buggz:. on May 20, 2004, 10:14:28 AM
i thought the same thing too...it sounds like diddy is doin adlibs on the song
Title: Re:Did Puffy produce Changes by 2pac?
Post by: teecee on May 20, 2004, 11:17:36 AM
ya, it seems to make sense that diddy did the song, does anyone know for sure who produced it?
Title: Re:Did Puffy produce Changes by 2pac?
Post by: mauzip on May 20, 2004, 11:43:23 AM
it doesn't say who produced it in the credits of his greatest hits album or on the single. on the single it does say that afeni shakur is the exectutive producer though ???
Title: Re:Did Puffy produce Changes by 2pac?
Post by: dexter on May 20, 2004, 11:46:49 AM
Puff doesnt produce west coast artist.
Title: Re:Did Puffy produce Changes by 2pac?
Post by: T-Dogg on May 20, 2004, 12:11:19 PM
also, was this song completed before he died, or after?  i know parts of the verses are from I wonder if heaven got a ghetto, but not all......peace

As far as I know, Pac recorded the song before dying, but it wasn't mixed into its current state until after his death.
Title: Re:Did Puffy produce Changes by 2pac?
Post by: ··: O.G Kody™ :·· on May 20, 2004, 12:15:43 PM
I can't imagine Puff produced this.
Title: Re:Did Puffy produce Changes by 2pac?
Post by: mauzip on May 20, 2004, 12:18:10 PM
oh and i think he just redid some lines from i wonder if heaven got a ghetto and that they didn't sample it.
Title: Re:Did Puffy produce Changes by 2pac?
Post by: white Boy on May 20, 2004, 12:20:13 PM
http://www.deaddisc.com/bh/2Pac_Greatest_Hits.htm
Title: Re:Did Puffy produce Changes by 2pac?
Post by: mauzip on May 20, 2004, 12:26:23 PM
http://www.deaddisc.com/bh/2Pac_Greatest_Hits.htm

doesn't say who produced it ;)
Title: Re:Did Puffy produce Changes by 2pac?
Post by: Lord Funk on May 20, 2004, 12:31:26 PM
My guess is Soulshock & Karlin - has their sound to me.

Shit song, whoever did it :P ;)
Title: Re:Did Puffy produce Changes by 2pac?
Post by: teecee on May 20, 2004, 05:25:29 PM
Actually, if anything it has Puffy's sound to be honest.......seriously, jacks an 80's hit, has a puff sound alike on it, the drums,  man someone prove this wrong cuz i wonder who the hell did this song.

Maybe Afei got Puff to do it and then never said who produced it to not piss suge off.  


Anyone know who produced this track
Title: Re:Did Puffy produce Changes by 2pac?
Post by: Young Dan Iza on May 20, 2004, 05:26:19 PM
the trackmasters produced changes, thats why afeni shelled out big buck for them to produce until the end of time, they tried 2 make lightning strike twice but it didnt work by sampling 2 1980s songs
Title: Re:Did Puffy produce Changes by 2pac?
Post by: TheDRU on May 20, 2004, 05:46:49 PM
bahahahahahahah bahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re:Did Puffy produce Changes by 2pac?
Post by: white Boy on May 20, 2004, 05:53:59 PM
http://www.deaddisc.com/bh/2Pac_Greatest_Hits.htm

doesn't say who produced it ;)
in the list of producers Puff isnt listed...
Title: Re:Did Puffy produce Changes by 2pac?
Post by: teecee on May 20, 2004, 06:16:03 PM
Trackmasters produced it?  That would make sense i guess, got any proof or is this just a guess?
Title: Re:Did Puffy produce Changes by 2pac?
Post by: hector on May 20, 2004, 06:47:22 PM
I dunno who produced it but I would bet a million bucks that puffy didn't.  trust me, EVERYONE would know if puffy produced that song, especially since all that pac/badboy beef.  Plus puffy would probably use some shameless plug saying how he  produced it, and how he wants to end the beef he had with pac, blah blah blah.
Title: Re:Did Puffy produce Changes by 2pac?
Post by: teecee on May 20, 2004, 07:17:09 PM
Ya, i know, i never really though puff did the song either, but it DOES sound like him on there, and it IS an 80's song jacked.  My boy swears its produced by Puff, so someone show some PROOF that someone else did it.  If trackmasters did the song, why didnt they get the credits.....
Title: Re:Did Puffy produce Changes by 2pac?
Post by: Darksider on May 20, 2004, 08:48:20 PM
yeah i thought the whole time the trackmasters did the song....but i dont know for surew
Title: Re:Did Puffy produce Changes by 2pac?
Post by: KURUPTION-81 on May 22, 2004, 01:20:32 PM
got this from hitemup.com

it says D.Evans in credits, which is Deon Evans aka Big D The Impossible, he made OG beat, which as I know ain`t that diff from released one, pz


Title: Re:Did Puffy produce Changes by 2pac?
Post by: teecee on May 22, 2004, 02:34:59 PM
Him, he produced some other tracks for Pac, right?  I think he  did the original version around the time of I Wonder If heave Got a Ghetto, and then for the greatest hits someone redid the song
Title: Re:Did Puffy produce Changes by 2pac?
Post by: pappy on May 22, 2004, 07:54:43 PM
trackmasters produced it,  its even in the booklet for pac's greatest hits
Title: Re:Did Puffy produce Changes by 2pac?
Post by: js83 on May 22, 2004, 11:26:07 PM
why the hell would puffy produce a pac song?...dumb question.
Title: Re:Did Puffy produce Changes by 2pac?
Post by: mauzip on May 23, 2004, 05:06:43 AM
trackmasters produced it,  its even in the booklet for pac's greatest hits

I'd like to see scans of that booklet of yours :-X
Title: Re:Did Puffy produce Changes by 2pac?
Post by: KURUPTION-81 on May 23, 2004, 05:39:08 AM
in the booklet it doesnt say who produced it all it says is:

written by T shakur, D Evans, B Hornsby

We all know who T Shakur is, B Hornsby is Bruce Hornsby who sung the original version called the way it is.  producers are also credited as writters meaning D Evans must have produced the song. If u look in the booklet u will see that Brendas Got A Baby also has writing credits by D Evans as i stated earlier D Evans is also known as Big D The Impossible. it states that Big D produced Brendas got a baby meaning that Big D also produced changes.

Not Trackmasters not Puffy but Big D the impossible AKA D Evans produced changes.  ;D
Title: Re:Did Puffy produce Changes by 2pac?
Post by: West C. Connected on May 23, 2004, 06:01:52 AM
^ So it was Puffy right? ;D
Title: Re:Did Puffy produce Changes by 2pac?
Post by: KURUPTION-81 on May 23, 2004, 08:12:33 AM
^ So it was Puffy right? ;D

 ;D
Title: Re:Did Puffy produce Changes by 2pac?
Post by: Don Seer on May 23, 2004, 01:56:23 PM
i can tell you bruce hornsby fans HATE this song.

guy hated it so much that it was deleted from my MP3 jukebox at work to stop me playing it. lol
Title: Re:Did Puffy produce Changes by 2pac?
Post by: Xan.G on May 24, 2004, 02:37:41 AM
in the booklet it doesnt say who produced it all it says is:

written by T shakur, D Evans, B Hornsby

We all know who T Shakur is, B Hornsby is Bruce Hornsby who sung the original version called the way it is.  producers are also credited as writters meaning D Evans must have produced the song. If u look in the booklet u will see that Brendas Got A Baby also has writing credits by D Evans as i stated earlier D Evans is also known as Big D The Impossible. it states that Big D produced Brendas got a baby meaning that Big D also produced changes.

Not Trackmasters not Puffy but Big D the impossible AKA D Evans produced changes.  ;D


nice deducing my dear watson...
Title: Re:Did Puffy produce Changes by 2pac?
Post by: KURUPTION-81 on May 24, 2004, 11:48:23 AM
i can tell you bruce hornsby fans HATE this song.

guy hated it so much that it was deleted from my MP3 jukebox at work to stop me playing it. lol

So true when ever i play changes my dad always gives me the story about how rappers just steal songs and that the original is always better lol.