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Title: EXTREME blood loss at WWE Judgment Day
Post by: platinumk777 on May 23, 2004, 07:36:09 PM
Did any of you catch the Guerrero vs Bradshaw match Judgment Day? Guerrero botched his blade job, and as a result, ended up losing an approximate of 1.5 to 2 pints of blood. After the match, he went into shock and was taken to the hospital to be treated with IV fluids. And just this week on Smackdown, Guerrero turned pale and passed out due to overexhaustion and the effects of the blood loss. Paramedics rushed in, gave him oxygen and rushed him out.

I've watched wrestling for 15 years, and I've never seen anyone lose blood the way Guerrero did last week. In a matter of seconds after the blade job, the blood was squirting so much that he was covered in blood from his forehead to his waist. Believe it or not, this made me more squeamish than the beheading video.

http://www.4w-wrestling.com/ppv2/index05.shtml (http://www.4w-wrestling.com/ppv2/index05.shtml)

I think this pic was taken 3-4 seconds after the blade job. Feel free to browse the pics and see the damage. I remember the crowd screaming "ohhhhhhhhh" in shock when they saw that image. It was just too intense, and I'm pretty concerned for this guy, cause he's in terrible shape right now.

Did any of you see this? What did you think about it?
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Post by: JTSimon on May 23, 2004, 07:51:40 PM
Ahhh I could never cut myself.
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Post by: ecrazy on May 23, 2004, 09:05:16 PM
My little godson was near the front row and he said that a lady next to him turned her head the rest of the match and didnt really want to see anymore, he told me it looked like any other match with blood in it, nothing out of the ordinary

I did not see the match, so  i cannot elaborate on this, but that is actual testimony from someone who was actually there
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Post by: .:DayGoStyLz:. on May 23, 2004, 11:49:11 PM
its wrestling...he wasnt really cut... ::)
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Post by: ARYC on May 24, 2004, 05:38:41 AM
"its wrestling...he wasnt really cut... "

lol tell me ur kidding ....

as for sick blade jobs ... this one ranks up there with
Jay Briscoe VS Samoa Joe in he steel cage
Title: Re:EXTREME blood loss at WWE Judgment Day
Post by: Perfection on May 24, 2004, 07:22:40 AM
its wrestling...he wasnt really cut... ::)

Its clear you don't know a thing about wrestling. That's not fake blood, its real and those are real cuts that they have from being cut open. Eddie was sent to the Hospital because of his blood loss and he passed out for real. If you think its fake look at that cut that Eddie has on his forehead.

You're just one of those Assholes who don't understand the sacrifices they give and what they put their body through in that ring to entertain the audience.
Title: Re:EXTREME blood loss at WWE Judgment Day
Post by: AlerG on May 24, 2004, 08:57:31 AM
i did not see the match but now i'd really like to check it out...

you guys act like it hurts when they cut themselves, when in reality it compared to when you cut yourself with a razor...i remember reading that there is a spot on your forhead that if you cut it the right way it'll bleed like crazy and that's why they only cut themselves on their forheads and not anywhere else...don't think they're sacrificing themselves when cutting their heads, think of it as sacrifice when they do moonsaults off cages, moves outside the ring, and shit like chairshots...the  cuts really aren't bad at all...although this guerro shit sounds like an acception, peace.
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Post by: .:DayGoStyLz:. on May 24, 2004, 11:15:14 AM
its wrestling...he wasnt really cut... ::)

Its clear you don't know a thing about wrestling. That's not fake blood, its real and those are real cuts that they have from being cut open. Eddie was sent to the Hospital because of his blood loss and he passed out for real. If you think its fake look at that cut that Eddie has on his forehead.

You're just one of those Assholes who don't understand the sacrifices they give and what they put their body through in that ring to entertain the audience.

lol!!

u honestly believe that if Eddie really collapsed like he did in the ring....lookin like he was havin a seizure, Bradshaw would have REALLY jumped on top of him and pinned him? lol cmon man...if he was really that messed up, then he could have died...and definetely Bradshaw jumpin ontop of him, coulda killed him. Let me guess, u think that Bradshaw and him really hate eachother in real life too huh? lol. Cmon, be real homie.

Yes, wrestlers do really get hurt sometimes....but guess what. When they get hurt, its by ACCIDENT!! they arent REALLY fighting eachother (news flash!!!). I used to think they were REALLY fighting eachother also....but i was 9, then i grew up lol
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Post by: Perfection on May 24, 2004, 11:27:45 AM
its wrestling...he wasnt really cut... ::)

Its clear you don't know a thing about wrestling. That's not fake blood, its real and those are real cuts that they have from being cut open. Eddie was sent to the Hospital because of his blood loss and he passed out for real. If you think its fake look at that cut that Eddie has on his forehead.

You're just one of those Assholes who don't understand the sacrifices they give and what they put their body through in that ring to entertain the audience.

lol!!

u honestly believe that if Eddie really collapsed like he did in the ring....lookin like he was havin a seizure, Bradshaw would have REALLY jumped on top of him and pinned him? lol cmon man...if he was really that messed up, then he could have died...and definetely Bradshaw jumpin ontop of him, coulda killed him. Let me guess, u think that Bradshaw and him really hate eachother in real life too huh? lol. Cmon, be real homie.

Yes, wrestlers do really get hurt sometimes....but guess what. When they get hurt, its by ACCIDENT!! they arent REALLY fighting eachother (news flash!!!). I used to think they were REALLY fighting eachother also....but i was 9, then i grew up lol

I wasn't talking about Smackdown!, Eddie collapsed after the PPV and was rushed to Hospital after the PPV which is what I said before. And if its do fake lets see you go into the ring with one of these guys, and you'll see how fake it is.
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Post by: Montana00 on May 24, 2004, 12:46:00 PM
i used to watch wcw when i was a kid and stopped.

can someone please explain to me about this blood.

i used to see wwf people get blown open in the head by a chair and stuff.

how real is this, and how do they get all these cuts
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Post by: bez on May 24, 2004, 12:47:40 PM
Its fake but it has its limits.  its fake as in its an act, everything is staged but of course being slammed down onto the canvas is gunna hurt a bit but the point is these guys are trained to do it.

How do you know Eddie was rushed to hospital?  They didn't pull the "Oh no the wrestler has been put into the ambulance on the stretcher and hes being rushed to hopsital" scene again did they?  JR and King act all shocked, we watch as the ambulance drives off.  In the meantime when we cut back to JR and King the Ambulance turns around and comes back to the area, drops Eddie back off, Eddie gets out tired from his match.  no Injury.
Title: Re:EXTREME blood loss at WWE Judgment Day
Post by: platinumk777 on May 24, 2004, 01:41:40 PM
Its fake but it has its limits.  its fake as in its an act, everything is staged but of course being slammed down onto the canvas is gunna hurt a bit but the point is these guys are trained to do it.

How do you know Eddie was rushed to hospital?  They didn't pull the "Oh no the wrestler has been put into the ambulance on the stretcher and hes being rushed to hopsital" scene again did they?  JR and King act all shocked, we watch as the ambulance drives off.  In the meantime when we cut back to JR and King the Ambulance turns around and comes back to the area, drops Eddie back off, Eddie gets out tired from his match.  no Injury.

Dude, I'm just as skeptic as the next man... I've given up on wrestling a long time ago. But you can't fake turning white like a ghost, and passing out like he did. You remember when Shawn Michaels had passed out once in the ring also, and they had to give him oxygen and carry him out. Well, that was proved to be legit, and this one is no different. And during Smackdown (when this happened), everyone stopped, and the announcers came to the ring... the announcers!! These guys don't budge for shit, but given the severity of the situation, they actually came into the ring to see how Guerrero was doing. I'm sure you know a thing or two about wrestling, and I'm sure you know that announcers don't get involved to sell a wrestler's injury.

C'mon guys... at least watch Judgment Day before you insist that he wasn't hurt at all. What next? Austin didn't break his neck in the ring? Mick Foley didn't suffer a severe concussion during Hell In A Cell? Wrestling is fake, but you'd be stupid to say that these guys are simply "great actors" selling their injuries.

Title: Re:EXTREME blood loss at WWE Judgment Day
Post by: Montana00 on May 24, 2004, 06:10:24 PM
so how do they actually get bloody.

cuz ive seen bits and pieces of wwe and they always have bloody forheads.

is that real blood?
Title: Re:EXTREME blood loss at WWE Judgment Day
Post by: mrtonguetwista on May 24, 2004, 07:16:59 PM
Just part of the storyline.  Just like the mom heart attack. ::)
Title: Re:EXTREME blood loss at WWE Judgment Day
Post by: ARYC on May 24, 2004, 09:26:57 PM
"can someone please explain to me about this blood."

the wrestler has a tiny blade hidden in his boots or wherever , and he uses it to cut himself open really quickly.......... someitmes a little bit f blood comes out but sometimes all hell breaks loose if they go to deep with the cut
Title: Re:EXTREME blood loss at WWE Judgment Day
Post by: JTSimon on May 24, 2004, 09:45:33 PM
http://wrestlingexposed.com/info/secrets.shtml (http://wrestlingexposed.com/info/secrets.shtml)
Title: Re:EXTREME blood loss at WWE Judgment Day
Post by: Montana00 on May 25, 2004, 12:36:46 PM
i could never cut myself. im afraid of blades and injections
Title: Re:EXTREME blood loss at WWE Judgment Day
Post by: Nutty on May 25, 2004, 05:01:52 PM
Sure everything's staged, they plan everything b4 hand, but the hits, the blood, the moves are all real. The reason wrestlers continue is so the match isn't interupted, and when it is, it is something serious........shit's stopped.......remember Owen Hart? There have been matches where wrestlers have passed out, there was a wcw match w/ Sid Vicious, where he broke his ankle........the match went on for a few minutes.

In the pics, Eddie doesn't look too bad.

Hey, who's Samoa Joe?
Title: Re:EXTREME blood loss at WWE Judgment Day
Post by: .:DayGoStyLz:. on May 25, 2004, 11:12:23 PM
Its fake but it has its limits.  its fake as in its an act, everything is staged but of course being slammed down onto the canvas is gunna hurt a bit but the point is these guys are trained to do it.

How do you know Eddie was rushed to hospital?  They didn't pull the "Oh no the wrestler has been put into the ambulance on the stretcher and hes being rushed to hopsital" scene again did they?  JR and King act all shocked, we watch as the ambulance drives off.  In the meantime when we cut back to JR and King the Ambulance turns around and comes back to the area, drops Eddie back off, Eddie gets out tired from his match.  no Injury.

lol preach Bez!!!!

like i said, some of these guys are good athletes.  But Frenchy cant seem to admit that yes, it is FAKE. if every Football game that was played, was pre-arranged...and the winner was known before the game, then what would u call it? especially if when they tackled eachother, they TRIED not to hurt eachother...only occasionally hurting eachother on accident. Would it be fake? Id have to say....yes lol. Like i said, when i was 9...i thought it was real, when i was real little i believed in Santa Clause and the Easter Bunny....some of us grow up and realize things for what they are, some of us dont...
Title: Re:EXTREME blood loss at WWE Judgment Day
Post by: bez on May 26, 2004, 08:38:45 AM
Ya no what I don't even believe that anybody in WWE uses blades.  Maybe in extreme wrestling like ECW or some Japenese shit but in the worlds most popular Wrestling compnay I can't see blades and real blood being used.

Any time you see blood on a wrestler it looks fake anyway.  I don't think that carrying blades into the ring and having REAL-BLOOD present when inside and outside the ring is appropriate for the WWE.  Blood capsules are likely to be used.

PlatniumMK, the announces coming into the ring doesn't mean shit.  All thats means is before the match they all talked and said "Right Eddie you will collapse in the ring, to add to this affect the announces will come into the ring and check on him", its all part of the show.

Man I have been watching wrestling for years and I have seen many incidents when oxygen has been used and shit.  You wanna know how an incident is real, THEY DON'T SHOW IT.  Such as Owen hart and such as all the shit you see on that advert where it says "Don't try this at home".  You see clips of Angle when Triple H gave him the fucked up pedigree on the table, Triple H's knee, Beniot slipped disk, Owen Hart, I think even Droz is in their too.  I can't actually remember sitting there and seeing any of these incidents happening live as they unfolded on the Raw or Smackdown.

If he really did collapse and shit then he wouldn't be appearing in the ring for at least another 6 months, but no doubt he'll be having a steel cage triple threat match in the near future.
Title: Re:EXTREME blood loss at WWE Judgment Day
Post by: mrtonguetwista on May 26, 2004, 01:53:05 PM
Yeah..if it were a real "serious" incident, I hardly believe he would be in action 48hrs later at the taping of Smackdown on Tues. night.





Question:  When the girl got her head cut off by Jason at Crystal Lake in Friday the 13th....was that real?? ::)
Title: Re:EXTREME blood loss at WWE Judgment Day
Post by: Rudki on May 26, 2004, 02:10:07 PM
Bez, no offence but you are being really dumb.......

ive been watchin wrestling for WELL over a decade and i know the ins and outs......

You see clips of Angle when Triple H gave him the fucked up pedigree on the table, Triple H's knee, Beniot slipped disk, Owen Hart, I think even Droz is in their too.  I can't actually remember sitting there and seeing any of these incidents happening live as they unfolded on the Raw or Smackdown

who says these had to happen on those 2 shows? they do show pay per view too ya know......Kurt and HHH's table incident occured at summerslam 2001 in the triple threat match w/ the rock.....

also YES blades are used, plenty of times ive seen the camera pan away from the wrestler, sometimes they fuck up and still focus on the wrestler, and yes u can see them blade somtimes, Fully loaded 99- austin and takers first blood match i think it was taker , could have been austin- either way i saw clearly them blading themselves.
Title: Re:EXTREME blood loss at WWE Judgment Day
Post by: bez on May 26, 2004, 03:34:05 PM
Whatever man.  The advert shows Angle sitting on a seat recoving from the incident moments after it happended.  Thats my point, if they do occur then everything stops.  
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Post by: Perfection on May 26, 2004, 03:39:44 PM
The only thing really fake is that the winner is planned ahead. Other than that it's pretty much real. Those chairs are real chairs, that sound you hear when someone gets hit by a chair is the sound of steel hitting skull.
Title: Re:EXTREME blood loss at WWE Judgment Day
Post by: bez on May 26, 2004, 07:18:30 PM
Its a fact that the chairs are made out of like the shittyest steel their is, the chairs are desiged to take most of the impact.  Jesus christ.

All of the props are designed in ways to make them look real, but perform in such a way that it won't actually hurt the wrestler in a bad way.  Sure taking a shot over the head with a chair will hurt for like a few seconds but if it was a real fully loaded steel chair it would probably crack the skull open.  The tables, barbed wire, chairs, ladders, wood, sledgehammers, are all designed and used in ways to make sure they don't actually physically injure the wrestler.
Title: Re:EXTREME blood loss at WWE Judgment Day
Post by: platinumk777 on May 26, 2004, 09:16:08 PM
http://www.lordsofpain.net/news/2004/articles/1085597841.php (http://www.lordsofpain.net/news/2004/articles/1085597841.php)
http://www.4w-wrestling.com/newsline/87603906.shtml (http://www.4w-wrestling.com/newsline/87603906.shtml)

Just wanted to prove that his blood loss has really affected his performance, but of course you all blew it out of proportion. It's all good though

Question:  When the girl got her head cut off by Jason at Crystal Lake in Friday the 13th....was that real?? ::)

Lame
Title: Re:EXTREME blood loss at WWE Judgment Day
Post by: bez on May 26, 2004, 09:41:28 PM
http://www.lordsofpain.net/news/2004/articles/1085597841.php (http://www.lordsofpain.net/news/2004/articles/1085597841.php)
http://www.4w-wrestling.com/newsline/87603906.shtml (http://www.4w-wrestling.com/newsline/87603906.shtml)

Just wanted to prove that his blood loss has really affected his performance, but of course you all blew it out of proportion. It's all good though


proves nothing, your just going by what a Wrestling site says, their information is probably unfounded.  The owners of that site are probably gullable fans too.  

If he lost that much blood he wouldn't even be in the ring for a start.  He would be in a hosptial bed or at home resting.  People read and think to much into what a website says.  Its either 1 of to things:

1)  It was all staged

or

2)  It was real

Now if it was staged then this would give Eddie the ability to come to the next house show and do his thing, they would probably give him the night off actual wrestling to make the illusion that he really got hurt more  of a real feeling, this will also allow him to rest a bit more from the match.

Or if it was real, then he wouldn't be there at all.  
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Post by: ARYC on May 26, 2004, 10:13:41 PM
"Hey, who's Samoa Joe"

Samoa Joe is my favorite wrestler (a close second is American Dragon) he works for various independent promotions around the US and even in Europe and Japan.
He's been the RoH (ring of honor) champion for about 14 months now and HE RULZ ALL

oh yeah and Bez WWE wresters do use the blades , just watch the RVD/Kane cage match , when the camera caught RVD trying to cut himself with a BLADE


as for the Jay Briscoe/Samoa Joe bleeding thing , Jay Briscoe lost so much blood it was UNBELIEVABLE , i wish i could find the pics they are probably somewhere on the ring of honor site (www.rohwrestling.com) , but the pictures aren't as good as the ones i saw like 2 months ago

untill i find them this is the best i can do:(copy and paste it)

http://www.whacks.bizland.com/ROH/DSC07632.jpg


Title: Re:EXTREME blood loss at WWE Judgment Day
Post by: platinumk777 on May 26, 2004, 10:18:46 PM
Excessive blood loss isn't considered an injury in the WWE... it's not the type of thing that requires rest from work. If you feel good enough to compete, then you do so, if not, you don't. Guerrero obviously felt the effects while physically performing, and I'm saying it's fully justified because I saw the match, and I saw the bloodshed.

And he DID go to the hospital, and DID stay overnight to recover from the blood loss. Unless of course you don't believe me, because all my information are from these unreliable wrestling sites, and I'm just a gullible fan  ::)

Also, Guerrero is the world heavyweight champion, so he does have the responsibility of showing up at events, don't you think? As long as he carries that belt, and is able to stand on his feet, he has to show up at events, but given his situation, he's getting cut from house shows, because those are expendable.

One last thing Bez... did you even see the match??
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Post by: bez on May 26, 2004, 10:53:42 PM
I still don't believe it.  If he was as bad as ya'll are making him out to of been then he wouldn't of been at the next show.  I never saw the match no, but this isn't intended to be an argument, its simply putting my opinions and points across.

A blade surly only produces a tiny cut, he wouldn't of lost enough blood to visit the hospital then surly.

Yes he has a responsibility but my point is if you are in bad heath he wouldn't be there, he would be in a hospital bed for days/weeks!
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Post by: ARYC on May 27, 2004, 01:18:34 AM
"A blade surly only produces a tiny cut, he wouldn't of lost enough blood to visit the hospital then surly."

depends on how deep u dig and how big the cut is , if it's a tiny cut , u barely bleed , if u dig deep all hell breaks loose
Title: Re:EXTREME blood loss at WWE Judgment Day
Post by: bez on May 27, 2004, 01:23:59 AM
"A blade surly only produces a tiny cut, he wouldn't of lost enough blood to visit the hospital then surly."

depends on how deep u dig and how big the cut is , if it's a tiny cut , u barely bleed , if u dig deep all hell breaks loose

And I am guessing all hell broke loose because if there was so much blood, he must of cut very deep, if he lost so much blood, he would of been in hosptial for days.
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Post by: ARYC on May 27, 2004, 01:53:38 AM
"And I am guessing all hell broke loose because if there was so much blood, he must of cut very deep,"

yes

"if he lost so much blood, he would of been in hosptial for days."

ever heard of wrestlers working through pain , injuries and sickness becasue the companny can't afford to let them take time off at the moment?
that's what's happening with Eddie and probably a whole bunch of guys in WWE

Also are you saying that Eddie used a "blood capsule"? is that your great explanation for the blood?
if so , then watch the match and u can clearly SEE THE BLOOD PRACTICALLY SQUIRTING FROM THE GUY'S FOREHEAD

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Post by: .:DayGoStyLz:. on May 29, 2004, 11:53:28 AM
quick question for everyone in here....how old is everyone?

im not bein an asshole, just seriously asking...how old everyone is. Cus its honestly AMAZING to me that any adult would still believe this shit is real. Actually, that anyone over the ager of 12 would think this is real. So im just curious. Every argument made by the "wrestling is actually real" supporters...is based on what they SAW on Raw or Smackdown lol. "i saw him bleeding!" Yah, ive seen David Copperfield make the Statue of Liberty dissapear too...what does that mean? U know how EASY it is to stage real blood in one of these events? Plus, how come sometimes wrestlers get this huge amount of a blood on them out of nowhere...then..magically a minute later...no MORE blood? lol. if u cut yurself deep enough that your whole face is covered in blood...chances are, it wont STOP bleeding during the match. Thered be more...and more...and more...until u were rushed away in an ambulance. Ultimate fighting fighters dont even suffer that much bloodloss...and their fighting is definetely real. What would make the staged, performance of wrestlin realer then that?

Plus, have any of u ever seen interviews with wrestlers after their career...when someone asks them if its fake, they NEVER SAY NO.  they either just say yes, or laugh it off....why? cus they know that everyone else already KNOWS its real. Except for the few little kids out there...and dumb redneck hicks who havent caught up with the rest of us. lol

*shakin my head*
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Post by: platinumk777 on May 29, 2004, 02:37:36 PM
^^^^
-I'm 21
-I have no doubt in my mind wrestling is staged
-Officially stopped being a fan of wrestling 2-3 years ago, but I check it out once in a blue moon

Your post is totally irrelevant. When did I state that Guerrero's blood loss made wrestling a whole lot more real? I'm arguing that his blood loss was a serious matter and will have affected his performance. For more info...

http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?board=2;action=display;threadid=52953 (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?board=2;action=display;threadid=52953)

Quick to judge, but not too quick yourself
*shaking my head*

Title: Re:EXTREME blood loss at WWE Judgment Day
Post by: Montana00 on May 29, 2004, 03:18:38 PM
Cant we all just agree that wrestling sucks?

its just an action soap opera
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Post by: ARYC on May 29, 2004, 11:02:55 PM
"chances are, it wont STOP bleeding during the match. Thered be more...and more...and more...until u were rushed away in an ambulance."

umm did u watch the match? the bleeding didn't stop , and there was "more...and more...and more"


"Ultimate fighting fighters dont even suffer that much bloodloss...and their fighting is definetely real."

i'm gonna explain it to u as if ur dumb (i know , i know it's quite a stretch of the imagination  ::) )

case 1:
have u ever been punched in the face ? yes
did it hurt? yes
how much did u bleed ? i didn't , i got a bruise
 
case 2:
have u ever cut urself shaving ? yes
did it hurt ? no
how much did u bleed?  quite a bit

now can u connect the dots ? or do u have to spell it out for u?
case 1 is what happens in UFC
case 2 is what happens in WWE
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Post by: .:DayGoStyLz:. on May 30, 2004, 04:45:27 AM
"chances are, it wont STOP bleeding during the match. Thered be more...and more...and more...until u were rushed away in an ambulance."

umm did u watch the match? the bleeding didn't stop , and there was "more...and more...and more"


"Ultimate fighting fighters dont even suffer that much bloodloss...and their fighting is definetely real."

i'm gonna explain it to u as if ur dumb (i know , i know it's quite a stretch of the imagination  ::) )

case 1:
have u ever been punched in the face ? yes
did it hurt? yes
how much did u bleed ? i didn't , i got a bruise
 
case 2:
have u ever cut urself shaving ? yes
did it hurt ? no
how much did u bleed?  quite a bit

now can u connect the dots ? or do u have to spell it out for u?
case 1 is what happens in UFC
case 2 is what happens in WWE

u forgot one important aspect...their wrestling, not having a knife fight lol. they "hit" eachother in the face the whole match...well, let me reword that...u believe that they hit eachother in the face the whole match. hmmm....they dont bruise very easily do they? lol. how many bruises do u ever see on them?? so your argument makes no sense whatsoever. even the stupidest wrestling fan in the world (dont worry yalllllll...im sure there are stupider ones in the world then the ones on the board) would be able to see how fake wrestling is. like i said, i used to watch it...and like tha platinum guy said, i check it out sometimes still. but that doesnt keep me from understanding it for what it is...not sports...but sports ENTERTAINMENT. they dont really wrestle, they dont really fight, they dont really try to hurt eachother. Owen Hart didnt really fly around the arena...he was on a string, and his name wasnt the Blue Blazer...lol. He was a "wrestler" who played a part...like all the rest. And occasionally (like him) "wrestlers" get hurt...on accident. When u STAGE a fight scene...and people ACCIDENTALLY get hurt...its NOT a real fight. Sounds simple, but for some reason...so hard for people to understand lol. How many broken bones has Jacky Chan had in his career of movie making? TONS....far more then any "wrestler" out there...but that doesnt mean he was really fighting the people in his movies does it?
Title: Re:EXTREME blood loss at WWE Judgment Day
Post by: bez on May 30, 2004, 04:51:18 AM
Couldnt of said it better.
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Post by: .:DayGoStyLz:. on May 30, 2004, 04:52:30 AM
^^^^
-I'm 21
-I have no doubt in my mind wrestling is staged
-Officially stopped being a fan of wrestling 2-3 years ago, but I check it out once in a blue moon

Your post is totally irrelevant. When did I state that Guerrero's blood loss made wrestling a whole lot more real? I'm arguing that his blood loss was a serious matter and will have affected his performance. For more info...

http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?board=2;action=display;threadid=52953 (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?board=2;action=display;threadid=52953)

Quick to judge, but not too quick yourself
*shaking my head*



lol...funny u make the comment about "quick to judge, but not too quick yourself"...

if u feel my post is "irrelevant" to what u said...then maybe it wasnt directed at u lol

for the record, no i dont believe Eddie's so called bloodloss was real. Theyve been doin this shit for yearssss...shit, decades. The reason i stopped watching wrestling was for 2 reasons. 1, its fake....2, everything they do now..theyve done before. So called bleeding wrestlers....wrestlers going to the hospital....fake broken arms, legs, whateva. And through all the heavy bloodloss "wrestlers" supposedly go through....all the being rushed to the hospital....they somehow manage to be fine 2 days later lol. cmon. The French guy i think made the comment about them being amazing at recovering from injuries. Yah...right. They all just some sorta superhuman Wolverine thing goin on that real athletes just dont have lol.
Title: Re:EXTREME blood loss at WWE Judgment Day
Post by: Perfection on May 30, 2004, 08:22:25 AM
^^^^
-I'm 21
-I have no doubt in my mind wrestling is staged
-Officially stopped being a fan of wrestling 2-3 years ago, but I check it out once in a blue moon

Your post is totally irrelevant. When did I state that Guerrero's blood loss made wrestling a whole lot more real? I'm arguing that his blood loss was a serious matter and will have affected his performance. For more info...

http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?board=2;action=display;threadid=52953 (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?board=2;action=display;threadid=52953)

Quick to judge, but not too quick yourself
*shaking my head*



lol...funny u make the comment about "quick to judge, but not too quick yourself"...

if u feel my post is "irrelevant" to what u said...then maybe it wasnt directed at u lol

for the record, no i dont believe Eddie's so called bloodloss was real. Theyve been doin this shit for yearssss...shit, decades. The reason i stopped watching wrestling was for 2 reasons. 1, its fake....2, everything they do now..theyve done before. So called bleeding wrestlers....wrestlers going to the hospital....fake broken arms, legs, whateva. And through all the heavy bloodloss "wrestlers" supposedly go through....all the being rushed to the hospital....they somehow manage to be fine 2 days later lol. cmon. The French guy i think made the comment about them being amazing at recovering from injuries. Yah...right. They all just some sorta superhuman Wolverine thing goin on that real athletes just dont have lol.

Eddie had to go to the hospital because of his blood loss at Judgement, he went into shock while at the hospital, they wanted to give Eddie a blood transfusion. Now until the Great American Bash Eddie is only allowed to work at the most 5 minute matches.
Title: Re:EXTREME blood loss at WWE Judgment Day
Post by: bez on May 30, 2004, 09:22:57 AM
^^^^
-I'm 21
-I have no doubt in my mind wrestling is staged
-Officially stopped being a fan of wrestling 2-3 years ago, but I check it out once in a blue moon

Your post is totally irrelevant. When did I state that Guerrero's blood loss made wrestling a whole lot more real? I'm arguing that his blood loss was a serious matter and will have affected his performance. For more info...

http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?board=2;action=display;threadid=52953 (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?board=2;action=display;threadid=52953)

Quick to judge, but not too quick yourself
*shaking my head*



lol...funny u make the comment about "quick to judge, but not too quick yourself"...

if u feel my post is "irrelevant" to what u said...then maybe it wasnt directed at u lol

for the record, no i dont believe Eddie's so called bloodloss was real. Theyve been doin this shit for yearssss...shit, decades. The reason i stopped watching wrestling was for 2 reasons. 1, its fake....2, everything they do now..theyve done before. So called bleeding wrestlers....wrestlers going to the hospital....fake broken arms, legs, whateva. And through all the heavy bloodloss "wrestlers" supposedly go through....all the being rushed to the hospital....they somehow manage to be fine 2 days later lol. cmon. The French guy i think made the comment about them being amazing at recovering from injuries. Yah...right. They all just some sorta superhuman Wolverine thing goin on that real athletes just dont have lol.

Eddie had to go to the hospital because of his blood loss at Judgement, he went into shock while at the hospital, they wanted to give Eddie a blood transfusion. Now until the Great American Bash Eddie is only allowed to work at the most 5 minute matches.

LOL, BULLSHIT.  He prob didn't even go to hospital, your just typing what you have read, doesn't mean it is true.  Unless you saw him in the hospital then you have no right to believe it.  Its all in the storyline.  If all that was true then he would'nt have a limit of 5 matches, he would have 0.  He wouldnt even be appearing at the shops.
Title: Re:EXTREME blood loss at WWE Judgment Day
Post by: platinumk777 on May 30, 2004, 09:46:56 AM
^^^

dude, your skepticism is really starting to become annoying. You haven't even admitted to watching the match yet, so who are you to insist that his injury was bullshit? Just download the damn match an watch it, then make your comments
Title: Re:EXTREME blood loss at WWE Judgment Day
Post by: bez on May 30, 2004, 10:02:39 AM
I dont need to watch it to know its fake and bullshit.
Title: Re:EXTREME blood loss at WWE Judgment Day
Post by: bez on May 30, 2004, 10:50:26 AM
^^^

dude, your skepticism is really starting to become annoying. You haven't even admitted to watching the match yet, so who are you to insist that his injury was bullshit? Just download the damn match an watch it, then make your comments

Just peeped the match, ok theres blood but its not like I aint ever seen that before.  He carries on wrestling in the match ffs, all part of the show.  If the injury was that bad the match wudda been stopped instantly when it happended or minutes after it did.  The fact that he carried on wrestling for like another 15 minutes says something.
Title: Re:EXTREME blood loss at WWE Judgment Day
Post by: Perfection on May 30, 2004, 12:18:57 PM
^^^^
-I'm 21
-I have no doubt in my mind wrestling is staged
-Officially stopped being a fan of wrestling 2-3 years ago, but I check it out once in a blue moon

Your post is totally irrelevant. When did I state that Guerrero's blood loss made wrestling a whole lot more real? I'm arguing that his blood loss was a serious matter and will have affected his performance. For more info...

http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?board=2;action=display;threadid=52953 (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?board=2;action=display;threadid=52953)

Quick to judge, but not too quick yourself
*shaking my head*



lol...funny u make the comment about "quick to judge, but not too quick yourself"...

if u feel my post is "irrelevant" to what u said...then maybe it wasnt directed at u lol

for the record, no i dont believe Eddie's so called bloodloss was real. Theyve been doin this shit for yearssss...shit, decades. The reason i stopped watching wrestling was for 2 reasons. 1, its fake....2, everything they do now..theyve done before. So called bleeding wrestlers....wrestlers going to the hospital....fake broken arms, legs, whateva. And through all the heavy bloodloss "wrestlers" supposedly go through....all the being rushed to the hospital....they somehow manage to be fine 2 days later lol. cmon. The French guy i think made the comment about them being amazing at recovering from injuries. Yah...right. They all just some sorta superhuman Wolverine thing goin on that real athletes just dont have lol.

Eddie had to go to the hospital because of his blood loss at Judgement, he went into shock while at the hospital, they wanted to give Eddie a blood transfusion. Now until the Great American Bash Eddie is only allowed to work at the most 5 minute matches.

LOL, BULLSHIT.  He prob didn't even go to hospital, your just typing what you have read, doesn't mean it is true.  Unless you saw him in the hospital then you have no right to believe it.  Its all in the storyline.  If all that was true then he would'nt have a limit of 5 matches, he would have 0.  He wouldnt even be appearing at the shops.

You're a real ignorant person aren't you? Like I said in the other topic, the article about Eddie, the guy who reported it Dave Meltzer only reports the real news of wrestling, he report storylines, he reports real injuries. And you don't believe that Eddie got 16 stitches even though you won't just watch and look at Eddie's forehead . You're just one of those people who even after being presented with facts and various reports won't believe something because it doesn't fit into how you believe things.
Title: Re:EXTREME blood loss at WWE Judgment Day
Post by: bez on May 30, 2004, 12:25:12 PM
^^^^
-I'm 21
-I have no doubt in my mind wrestling is staged
-Officially stopped being a fan of wrestling 2-3 years ago, but I check it out once in a blue moon

Your post is totally irrelevant. When did I state that Guerrero's blood loss made wrestling a whole lot more real? I'm arguing that his blood loss was a serious matter and will have affected his performance. For more info...

http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?board=2;action=display;threadid=52953 (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?board=2;action=display;threadid=52953)

Quick to judge, but not too quick yourself
*shaking my head*



lol...funny u make the comment about "quick to judge, but not too quick yourself"...

if u feel my post is "irrelevant" to what u said...then maybe it wasnt directed at u lol

for the record, no i dont believe Eddie's so called bloodloss was real. Theyve been doin this shit for yearssss...shit, decades. The reason i stopped watching wrestling was for 2 reasons. 1, its fake....2, everything they do now..theyve done before. So called bleeding wrestlers....wrestlers going to the hospital....fake broken arms, legs, whateva. And through all the heavy bloodloss "wrestlers" supposedly go through....all the being rushed to the hospital....they somehow manage to be fine 2 days later lol. cmon. The French guy i think made the comment about them being amazing at recovering from injuries. Yah...right. They all just some sorta superhuman Wolverine thing goin on that real athletes just dont have lol.

Eddie had to go to the hospital because of his blood loss at Judgement, he went into shock while at the hospital, they wanted to give Eddie a blood transfusion. Now until the Great American Bash Eddie is only allowed to work at the most 5 minute matches.

LOL, BULLSHIT.  He prob didn't even go to hospital, your just typing what you have read, doesn't mean it is true.  Unless you saw him in the hospital then you have no right to believe it.  Its all in the storyline.  If all that was true then he would'nt have a limit of 5 matches, he would have 0.  He wouldnt even be appearing at the shops.

You're a real iggroant person aren't you? Like I said in the other topic, the article about Eddie, the guy who reported it Dave Meltzer only reports the real news of wrestling, he report storylines, he reports real injuries. And you don't believe that Eddie got 16 stitches even though you won't just watch and look at Eddie's forehead . You're just one of those people who even after being presented with facts and various reports won't believe something because it doesn't fit into how you believe things.

Well considering I don't know what iggroant means I doubt I'm that.  Maybe you should spend some of the time you spend watching wrestling and analysing it studying.

I don't give a fuck what person reports this who reports that, how do you know he isn't hired by the WWE to write these so called true reports.

I have said I have watched the match, yes there is blood, yes it does look nasty but its nothing I havn't seen in wrestling before.  The fact that you say he collapsed after the show says it all, he was able to carry on wrestling!, if he was that bad, he wouldn't of been able too.  Show me a pic of his 16 stitches!
Title: Re:EXTREME blood loss at WWE Judgment Day
Post by: .:DayGoStyLz:. on May 30, 2004, 02:18:51 PM
^^^^
-I'm 21
-I have no doubt in my mind wrestling is staged
-Officially stopped being a fan of wrestling 2-3 years ago, but I check it out once in a blue moon

Your post is totally irrelevant. When did I state that Guerrero's blood loss made wrestling a whole lot more real? I'm arguing that his blood loss was a serious matter and will have affected his performance. For more info...

http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?board=2;action=display;threadid=52953 (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?board=2;action=display;threadid=52953)

Quick to judge, but not too quick yourself
*shaking my head*



lol...funny u make the comment about "quick to judge, but not too quick yourself"...

if u feel my post is "irrelevant" to what u said...then maybe it wasnt directed at u lol

for the record, no i dont believe Eddie's so called bloodloss was real. Theyve been doin this shit for yearssss...shit, decades. The reason i stopped watching wrestling was for 2 reasons. 1, its fake....2, everything they do now..theyve done before. So called bleeding wrestlers....wrestlers going to the hospital....fake broken arms, legs, whateva. And through all the heavy bloodloss "wrestlers" supposedly go through....all the being rushed to the hospital....they somehow manage to be fine 2 days later lol. cmon. The French guy i think made the comment about them being amazing at recovering from injuries. Yah...right. They all just some sorta superhuman Wolverine thing goin on that real athletes just dont have lol.

Eddie had to go to the hospital because of his blood loss at Judgement, he went into shock while at the hospital, they wanted to give Eddie a blood transfusion. Now until the Great American Bash Eddie is only allowed to work at the most 5 minute matches.

if he was really hurt, why was he wrestling on Raw? When he supposedly fell out in the ring...and Bradshaw jumped on him and pinned him. If he was really hurt, he wouldnt have been in the ring in the first place. How the hell do u manage to believe everything u read, and see on tv? i mean cmon man. Its kinda sad. U didnt answer my question either, how old are u?

like i said, theyve been playing that Ambulance/fake trip to the hospital gig for years...definetely before u even watched wrestling. I used to see them do it when was like 8 yrs old watchin this shit. It was fake then, and just as fake now. Nobody ever answered my question either...these guys supposedely beat on eachother the whole match...how come none of them ever have bruises? Black eyes? Do they have make-up artists covering it up for them? lol. Not to mention, they only have CUTS...or bandages on, when it plays in the story line (like Eddie's). If the steel chairs were real like u think they are...one regular shot to the head would give someone a cracked skull (like Bex said), and a concussion for sure. They get hit ALL the time with these things...then are wrestling 3 days later...with no marks lol. If u were hit in the face or head with a steel chair (a real one, not the ones from wrestling) do u think youd be fine a couple of days later...and have no marks on u whatsoever? lol yah right.
Title: Re:EXTREME blood loss at WWE Judgment Day
Post by: Perfection on May 30, 2004, 05:51:37 PM
^^^^
-I'm 21
-I have no doubt in my mind wrestling is staged
-Officially stopped being a fan of wrestling 2-3 years ago, but I check it out once in a blue moon

Your post is totally irrelevant. When did I state that Guerrero's blood loss made wrestling a whole lot more real? I'm arguing that his blood loss was a serious matter and will have affected his performance. For more info...

http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?board=2;action=display;threadid=52953 (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?board=2;action=display;threadid=52953)

Quick to judge, but not too quick yourself
*shaking my head*



lol...funny u make the comment about "quick to judge, but not too quick yourself"...

if u feel my post is "irrelevant" to what u said...then maybe it wasnt directed at u lol

for the record, no i dont believe Eddie's so called bloodloss was real. Theyve been doin this shit for yearssss...shit, decades. The reason i stopped watching wrestling was for 2 reasons. 1, its fake....2, everything they do now..theyve done before. So called bleeding wrestlers....wrestlers going to the hospital....fake broken arms, legs, whateva. And through all the heavy bloodloss "wrestlers" supposedly go through....all the being rushed to the hospital....they somehow manage to be fine 2 days later lol. cmon. The French guy i think made the comment about them being amazing at recovering from injuries. Yah...right. They all just some sorta superhuman Wolverine thing goin on that real athletes just dont have lol.

Eddie had to go to the hospital because of his blood loss at Judgement, he went into shock while at the hospital, they wanted to give Eddie a blood transfusion. Now until the Great American Bash Eddie is only allowed to work at the most 5 minute matches.

LOL, BULLSHIT.  He prob didn't even go to hospital, your just typing what you have read, doesn't mean it is true.  Unless you saw him in the hospital then you have no right to believe it.  Its all in the storyline.  If all that was true then he would'nt have a limit of 5 matches, he would have 0.  He wouldnt even be appearing at the shops.

You're a real iggroant person aren't you? Like I said in the other topic, the article about Eddie, the guy who reported it Dave Meltzer only reports the real news of wrestling, he report storylines, he reports real injuries. And you don't believe that Eddie got 16 stitches even though you won't just watch and look at Eddie's forehead . You're just one of those people who even after being presented with facts and various reports won't believe something because it doesn't fit into how you believe things.

Well considering I don't know what iggroant means I doubt I'm that.  Maybe you should spend some of the time you spend watching wrestling and analysing it studying.

I don't give a fuck what person reports this who reports that, how do you know he isn't hired by the WWE to write these so called true reports.

I have said I have watched the match, yes there is blood, yes it does look nasty but its nothing I havn't seen in wrestling before.  The fact that you say he collapsed after the show says it all, he was able to carry on wrestling!, if he was that bad, he wouldn't of been able too.  Show me a pic of his 16 stitches!

Just look at Eddie's head and you'll see the stitches. Dave Meltzer publishes the Wrestling Observer which doesn't focus on the WWE, he reports real news from the WWE, TNA, guys who are going to Japan, and all other wrestling organzations. It seems to me that if he was working for Vicne he would just be reporting WWE news and no one would really take him seriously. Isn't that right you ASSHOLE!!!! MOTHERFUCKER!! During that match you can tell that Eddie is showing the affects of what is to come after the match. This may come as a shock to you but you can get injuried in wrestling, I know seemingly by your logic you think that no one can get hurt in wrestling, but that's where you're wrong. Guys get hurt in every match some seriously, and some minor, but I bet you don't have the balls to go and see how tough you are, so you can prove everything that you have said.
Title: Re:EXTREME blood loss at WWE Judgment Day
Post by: Perfection on May 30, 2004, 05:58:10 PM
^^^^
-I'm 21
-I have no doubt in my mind wrestling is staged
-Officially stopped being a fan of wrestling 2-3 years ago, but I check it out once in a blue moon

Your post is totally irrelevant. When did I state that Guerrero's blood loss made wrestling a whole lot more real? I'm arguing that his blood loss was a serious matter and will have affected his performance. For more info...

http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?board=2;action=display;threadid=52953 (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?board=2;action=display;threadid=52953)

Quick to judge, but not too quick yourself
*shaking my head*



lol...funny u make the comment about "quick to judge, but not too quick yourself"...

if u feel my post is "irrelevant" to what u said...then maybe it wasnt directed at u lol

for the record, no i dont believe Eddie's so called bloodloss was real. Theyve been doin this shit for yearssss...shit, decades. The reason i stopped watching wrestling was for 2 reasons. 1, its fake....2, everything they do now..theyve done before. So called bleeding wrestlers....wrestlers going to the hospital....fake broken arms, legs, whateva. And through all the heavy bloodloss "wrestlers" supposedly go through....all the being rushed to the hospital....they somehow manage to be fine 2 days later lol. cmon. The French guy i think made the comment about them being amazing at recovering from injuries. Yah...right. They all just some sorta superhuman Wolverine thing goin on that real athletes just dont have lol.

Eddie had to go to the hospital because of his blood loss at Judgement, he went into shock while at the hospital, they wanted to give Eddie a blood transfusion. Now until the Great American Bash Eddie is only allowed to work at the most 5 minute matches.

if he was really hurt, why was he wrestling on Raw? When he supposedly fell out in the ring...and Bradshaw jumped on him and pinned him. If he was really hurt, he wouldnt have been in the ring in the first place. How the hell do u manage to believe everything u read, and see on tv? i mean cmon man. Its kinda sad. U didnt answer my question either, how old are u?

like i said, theyve been playing that Ambulance/fake trip to the hospital gig for years...definetely before u even watched wrestling. I used to see them do it when was like 8 yrs old watchin this shit. It was fake then, and just as fake now. Nobody ever answered my question either...these guys supposedely beat on eachother the whole match...how come none of them ever have bruises? Black eyes? Do they have make-up artists covering it up for them? lol. Not to mention, they only have CUTS...or bandages on, when it plays in the story line (like Eddie's). If the steel chairs were real like u think they are...one regular shot to the head would give someone a cracked skull (like Bex said), and a concussion for sure. They get hit ALL the time with these things...then are wrestling 3 days later...with no marks lol. If u were hit in the face or head with a steel chair (a real one, not the ones from wrestling) do u think youd be fine a couple of days later...and have no marks on u whatsoever? lol yah right.

He wasn't on Raw because of two reasons, one he's on Smakcdown and two he was still in the hospital on Monday. Before Judgement Day Eddie was suppose to wrestling a 15 minute match at the house show on the Monday and on Smackdown, but because of what happen he didn't wrestle and was in the ring on that Smackdown for like a mintue. The angle of what is going on right now wasn't thought of till the day of Smackdown because they had to think of a way that could be why Eddie couldn't wrestle. The doctors aren't allowing Eddie to be in the ring for more than 5 mintues until Great American Bash. Guess what we're going on 3 weeks now and Eddie still has that huge scare on his forehead.
Title: Re:EXTREME blood loss at WWE Judgment Day
Post by: Perfection on May 30, 2004, 06:10:19 PM
^^^^
-I'm 21
-I have no doubt in my mind wrestling is staged
-Officially stopped being a fan of wrestling 2-3 years ago, but I check it out once in a blue moon

Your post is totally irrelevant. When did I state that Guerrero's blood loss made wrestling a whole lot more real? I'm arguing that his blood loss was a serious matter and will have affected his performance. For more info...

http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?board=2;action=display;threadid=52953 (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?board=2;action=display;threadid=52953)

Quick to judge, but not too quick yourself
*shaking my head*



lol...funny u make the comment about "quick to judge, but not too quick yourself"...

if u feel my post is "irrelevant" to what u said...then maybe it wasnt directed at u lol

for the record, no i dont believe Eddie's so called bloodloss was real. Theyve been doin this shit for yearssss...shit, decades. The reason i stopped watching wrestling was for 2 reasons. 1, its fake....2, everything they do now..theyve done before. So called bleeding wrestlers....wrestlers going to the hospital....fake broken arms, legs, whateva. And through all the heavy bloodloss "wrestlers" supposedly go through....all the being rushed to the hospital....they somehow manage to be fine 2 days later lol. cmon. The French guy i think made the comment about them being amazing at recovering from injuries. Yah...right. They all just some sorta superhuman Wolverine thing goin on that real athletes just dont have lol.

Eddie had to go to the hospital because of his blood loss at Judgement, he went into shock while at the hospital, they wanted to give Eddie a blood transfusion. Now until the Great American Bash Eddie is only allowed to work at the most 5 minute matches.

LOL, BULLSHIT.  He prob didn't even go to hospital, your just typing what you have read, doesn't mean it is true.  Unless you saw him in the hospital then you have no right to believe it.  Its all in the storyline.  If all that was true then he would'nt have a limit of 5 matches, he would have 0.  He wouldnt even be appearing at the shops.

You're a real iggroant person aren't you? Like I said in the other topic, the article about Eddie, the guy who reported it Dave Meltzer only reports the real news of wrestling, he report storylines, he reports real injuries. And you don't believe that Eddie got 16 stitches even though you won't just watch and look at Eddie's forehead . You're just one of those people who even after being presented with facts and various reports won't believe something because it doesn't fit into how you believe things.

Well considering I don't know what iggroant means I doubt I'm that.  Maybe you should spend some of the time you spend watching wrestling and analysing it studying.

I don't give a fuck what person reports this who reports that, how do you know he isn't hired by the WWE to write these so called true reports.

I have said I have watched the match, yes there is blood, yes it does look nasty but its nothing I havn't seen in wrestling before.  The fact that you say he collapsed after the show says it all, he was able to carry on wrestling!, if he was that bad, he wouldn't of been able too.  Show me a pic of his 16 stitches!

Oh yeah one more thing:
Ignorant means not knowing, ignoring the facts.
Title: Re:EXTREME blood loss at WWE Judgment Day
Post by: .:DayGoStyLz:. on May 31, 2004, 01:11:54 AM
^^^^
-I'm 21
-I have no doubt in my mind wrestling is staged
-Officially stopped being a fan of wrestling 2-3 years ago, but I check it out once in a blue moon

Your post is totally irrelevant. When did I state that Guerrero's blood loss made wrestling a whole lot more real? I'm arguing that his blood loss was a serious matter and will have affected his performance. For more info...

http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?board=2;action=display;threadid=52953 (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?board=2;action=display;threadid=52953)

Quick to judge, but not too quick yourself
*shaking my head*



lol...funny u make the comment about "quick to judge, but not too quick yourself"...

if u feel my post is "irrelevant" to what u said...then maybe it wasnt directed at u lol

for the record, no i dont believe Eddie's so called bloodloss was real. Theyve been doin this shit for yearssss...shit, decades. The reason i stopped watching wrestling was for 2 reasons. 1, its fake....2, everything they do now..theyve done before. So called bleeding wrestlers....wrestlers going to the hospital....fake broken arms, legs, whateva. And through all the heavy bloodloss "wrestlers" supposedly go through....all the being rushed to the hospital....they somehow manage to be fine 2 days later lol. cmon. The French guy i think made the comment about them being amazing at recovering from injuries. Yah...right. They all just some sorta superhuman Wolverine thing goin on that real athletes just dont have lol.

Eddie had to go to the hospital because of his blood loss at Judgement, he went into shock while at the hospital, they wanted to give Eddie a blood transfusion. Now until the Great American Bash Eddie is only allowed to work at the most 5 minute matches.

if he was really hurt, why was he wrestling on Raw? When he supposedly fell out in the ring...and Bradshaw jumped on him and pinned him. If he was really hurt, he wouldnt have been in the ring in the first place. How the hell do u manage to believe everything u read, and see on tv? i mean cmon man. Its kinda sad. U didnt answer my question either, how old are u?

like i said, theyve been playing that Ambulance/fake trip to the hospital gig for years...definetely before u even watched wrestling. I used to see them do it when was like 8 yrs old watchin this shit. It was fake then, and just as fake now. Nobody ever answered my question either...these guys supposedely beat on eachother the whole match...how come none of them ever have bruises? Black eyes? Do they have make-up artists covering it up for them? lol. Not to mention, they only have CUTS...or bandages on, when it plays in the story line (like Eddie's). If the steel chairs were real like u think they are...one regular shot to the head would give someone a cracked skull (like Bex said), and a concussion for sure. They get hit ALL the time with these things...then are wrestling 3 days later...with no marks lol. If u were hit in the face or head with a steel chair (a real one, not the ones from wrestling) do u think youd be fine a couple of days later...and have no marks on u whatsoever? lol yah right.

He wasn't on Raw because of two reasons, one he's on Smakcdown and two he was still in the hospital on Monday. Before Judgement Day Eddie was suppose to wrestling a 15 minute match at the house show on the Monday and on Smackdown, but because of what happen he didn't wrestle and was in the ring on that Smackdown for like a mintue. The angle of what is going on right now wasn't thought of till the day of Smackdown because they had to think of a way that could be why Eddie couldn't wrestle. The doctors aren't allowing Eddie to be in the ring for more than 5 mintues until Great American Bash. Guess what we're going on 3 weeks now and Eddie still has that huge scare on his forehead.

as if they couldnt create a fake scar on his head? lol. Raw, Smackdown...whatever show it was when Bradshaw pinned Eddie after he collapsed in the ring...that isnt the point. the point is, if it were real...Bradshaw would not have jumped on him in the condition Eddie was in. Eddie (if it were real) could have died from Bradshaw jumping on him in that condition. Also, like Bez said...everything u, and others on here use as arguments are either what youve seen on Raw or Smackdown...or, what youve read from wrestling websites and wrestling reporters. i dont recall seeing any of this stuff on Sportcenter. lol.
Title: Re:EXTREME blood loss at WWE Judgment Day
Post by: ARYC on May 31, 2004, 05:49:29 AM
"they dont really fight, they dont really try to hurt eachother"

u didn't understand what i was saying .
u said that the UFC's fights are real yet they don't lose as much blood as WWE wrestlers

I used the example of "cutting urself shaving" to explain WWE wrestlers's case because it's basically the same thing.
u bleed a lot but it doesn't hurt.

then i used the example of getting punched in the face ot UFC fighter's case becasuse a pucnh hurts but it doesn't make u bleed

YOU totally got it mixed up and started saying that my point is irrelevent beacuse WWE wrestlers don't get bruises .... WELL DUH YOU DUMBASS!!!! that's the point i made !!
WWE wrestlers DON'T GET BRUISES , UFC FIGHTERS DO
THAT'S WHAT I SAID WITH MY PREVIOUS POST BUT APPARENTLY YOU COULDN'T EVEN UNDERSTAND THAT ANALOGY

BTW I'm NOT arguing to prove that Guerrero went to the hospital or not because I don't know .
I'm arguing because u guys are saying that  the blood is fake.
Title: Re:EXTREME blood loss at WWE Judgment Day
Post by: bez on May 31, 2004, 09:05:59 AM
^^^^
-I'm 21
-I have no doubt in my mind wrestling is staged
-Officially stopped being a fan of wrestling 2-3 years ago, but I check it out once in a blue moon

Your post is totally irrelevant. When did I state that Guerrero's blood loss made wrestling a whole lot more real? I'm arguing that his blood loss was a serious matter and will have affected his performance. For more info...

http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?board=2;action=display;threadid=52953 (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?board=2;action=display;threadid=52953)

Quick to judge, but not too quick yourself
*shaking my head*



lol...funny u make the comment about "quick to judge, but not too quick yourself"...

if u feel my post is "irrelevant" to what u said...then maybe it wasnt directed at u lol

for the record, no i dont believe Eddie's so called bloodloss was real. Theyve been doin this shit for yearssss...shit, decades. The reason i stopped watching wrestling was for 2 reasons. 1, its fake....2, everything they do now..theyve done before. So called bleeding wrestlers....wrestlers going to the hospital....fake broken arms, legs, whateva. And through all the heavy bloodloss "wrestlers" supposedly go through....all the being rushed to the hospital....they somehow manage to be fine 2 days later lol. cmon. The French guy i think made the comment about them being amazing at recovering from injuries. Yah...right. They all just some sorta superhuman Wolverine thing goin on that real athletes just dont have lol.

Eddie had to go to the hospital because of his blood loss at Judgement, he went into shock while at the hospital, they wanted to give Eddie a blood transfusion. Now until the Great American Bash Eddie is only allowed to work at the most 5 minute matches.

LOL, BULLSHIT.  He prob didn't even go to hospital, your just typing what you have read, doesn't mean it is true.  Unless you saw him in the hospital then you have no right to believe it.  Its all in the storyline.  If all that was true then he would'nt have a limit of 5 matches, he would have 0.  He wouldnt even be appearing at the shops.

You're a real iggroant person aren't you? Like I said in the other topic, the article about Eddie, the guy who reported it Dave Meltzer only reports the real news of wrestling, he report storylines, he reports real injuries. And you don't believe that Eddie got 16 stitches even though you won't just watch and look at Eddie's forehead . You're just one of those people who even after being presented with facts and various reports won't believe something because it doesn't fit into how you believe things.

Well considering I don't know what iggroant means I doubt I'm that.  Maybe you should spend some of the time you spend watching wrestling and analysing it studying.

I don't give a fuck what person reports this who reports that, how do you know he isn't hired by the WWE to write these so called true reports.

I have said I have watched the match, yes there is blood, yes it does look nasty but its nothing I havn't seen in wrestling before.  The fact that you say he collapsed after the show says it all, he was able to carry on wrestling!, if he was that bad, he wouldn't of been able too.  Show me a pic of his 16 stitches!

Just look at Eddie's head and you'll see the stitches. Dave Meltzer publishes the Wrestling Observer which doesn't focus on the WWE, he reports real news from the WWE, TNA, guys who are going to Japan, and all other wrestling organzations. It seems to me that if he was working for Vicne he would just be reporting WWE news and no one would really take him seriously. Isn't that right you ASSHOLE!!!! MOTHERFUCKER!! During that match you can tell that Eddie is showing the affects of what is to come after the match. This may come as a shock to you but you can get injuried in wrestling, I know seemingly by your logic you think that no one can get hurt in wrestling, but that's where you're wrong. Guys get hurt in every match some seriously, and some minor, but I bet you don't have the balls to go and see how tough you are, so you can prove everything that you have said.
LMAO!!!!  Man he's selling it.  Just because he gets up and stumbles around for a bit doesn't mean hes really feeling it.  Hes selling that fact that hes just been twated with a chair.  People do get hurt in wrestling, but when they do, EVERYTHING STOPS.  You think Droz was able to carry on with a broken neck, you think Owen was able to get up and carry on, NO because they where real serious injurys.  This isn't, he wouldn't of carried on with the match if he was that badly hurt.  JESUS your so fucking stupid, its fake, its an act, its a show, its entertainment, its planned, its pretty much safe.  But when something does go wrong, everything stops, including the broadcast of it.

Title: Re:EXTREME blood loss at WWE Judgment Day
Post by: ARYC on May 31, 2004, 10:39:59 AM
"You think Droz was able to carry on with a broken neck, you think Owen was able to get up and carry on, NO because they where real serious injurys."

how about when Austin broke his neck (against owen hart) and continued the match ? how about when HHH tore his quad and continued the match ?

Eddie was able to carry on despite the blood loss .
I don't know how bad Eddie's shape is (if he's gone to the hospital or not) but he did pull out a very gutsy effort by continuing the match .
 
Title: Re:EXTREME blood loss at WWE Judgment Day
Post by: .:DayGoStyLz:. on May 31, 2004, 11:40:48 AM
Bez...this is honestly fucking amazing lol

out of all the arguments ive had on here, with religious fanatics, racists, etc....this is by far the stupidest lol. an argument to try n prove that wrestling is fake LOL! And on top of that, the people we're arguing with use the latest episode of Raw as their "proof" that wrestling is real.

"it has to be real, i saw him on Raw...and he was staggered! No one could ever make that up!" lol..

i cant count the number of times ive seen wrestlers get knocked down by punches that dont connect lol.

Oh and Fattak, what youre arguing has nothing to do with what im arguing apparently....so if youre going to respond, respond to what this whole topic is about now. Wrestling...fake...or not. If u think its fake, go ahead n say it. If u think its real, then youre more retarded then i thought.

people dont seem to ever answer my questions either about this. how come these wrestlers DONT have bruises ever on them?/ they always magically dissappear a day later (unless it fits into the storyline somehow). ALL of them would be bruised up damn near 365 days out of the year if these were real fights. Rick Flair would be suffering from SEVERE arthritis if this were real. Jazz would break Trish Stratus in half if this were real. From what i know Eddie Guererro is gay in real life, if this were real...his "character" would be gay also. Every Single wrestler that wrestled Yokozuna back in the day and lost, would have either been killed...or sufferred broken ribs when he would sit on them. Every single wrestler who EVER received a pile-driver would have had a broken neck (no, not just the wrestlers who didnt do it correctly). Hulk Hogan would not have been wrestling and fuckin 70 if this were real lol. Ken Shamrock would have beat the shit out of all these dummies, if this were real. The results would be posted on Sportcenter if this were real. And every show would be on PPV, not on tv..if this were real.

Oh, last but not least...i wouldnt be in the middle of this stupid fuckin argument with a bunch of "believe everything on TV", naive, gullable retards. But hey...this kinda shit is funny anyways...
Title: Re:EXTREME blood loss at WWE Judgment Day
Post by: platinumk777 on May 31, 2004, 05:39:49 PM
lol, haven't checked this thread for a day, day and a half, and yet, somebody's taken real offense to me, dropping my karma down continually *cough*Daygostylz*cough*

get over it, man. here, chew on this *props*, it'll make you feel better
Title: Re:EXTREME blood loss at WWE Judgment Day
Post by: .:DayGoStyLz:. on June 01, 2004, 03:22:14 AM
lol, haven't checked this thread for a day, day and a half, and yet, somebody's taken real offense to me, dropping my karma down continually *cough*Daygostylz*cough*

get over it, man. here, chew on this *props*, it'll make you feel better


lol Karma? are u serious? the only people who ever give a shit about Karma are those who bring it up...find out how many times ive ever even talked about it before now lol.

it aint the Karma man, its just the annoying fact of having to argue with someone about whether or not wrestling is fake when the whole "thinking" world already knows it is lol.
Title: Re:EXTREME blood loss at WWE Judgment Day
Post by: da_notorious_mack on June 01, 2004, 03:42:05 AM
lol@bez an daygo..next youll probably say the undertakers "buried alive" match wasnt real....


LMAO..like daygo said,....theyve worked every angle a million odd times...
Title: Re:EXTREME blood loss at WWE Judgment Day
Post by: ARYC on June 01, 2004, 05:34:01 AM
"Wrestling...fake...or not"

of course wrestling is fake and pre-determined , but the blood is real
that's what i've been saying this entire thread
Title: Re:EXTREME blood loss at WWE Judgment Day
Post by: KING VerbalAssaulta on June 01, 2004, 10:39:32 AM
Did any of you catch the Guerrero vs Bradshaw match Judgment Day? Guerrero botched his blade job, and as a result, ended up losing an approximate of 1.5 to 2 pints of blood. After the match, he went into shock and was taken to the hospital to be treated with IV fluids. And just this week on Smackdown, Guerrero turned pale and passed out due to overexhaustion and the effects of the blood loss. Paramedics rushed in, gave him oxygen and rushed him out.

I've watched wrestling for 15 years, and I've never seen anyone lose blood the way Guerrero did last week. In a matter of seconds after the blade job, the blood was squirting so much that he was covered in blood from his forehead to his waist. Believe it or not, this made me more squeamish than the beheading video.

http://www.4w-wrestling.com/ppv2/index05.shtml (http://www.4w-wrestling.com/ppv2/index05.shtml)

I think this pic was taken 3-4 seconds after the blade job. Feel free to browse the pics and see the damage. I remember the crowd screaming "ohhhhhhhhh" in shock when they saw that image. It was just too intense, and I'm pretty concerned for this guy, cause he's in terrible shape right now.

Did any of you see this? What did you think about it?

(http://www.ebaumsworld.com/forumfun/negative9.jpg) i cant believe some people still think wrestling is real  ::)
Title: Re:EXTREME blood loss at WWE Judgment Day
Post by: ARYC on June 01, 2004, 10:51:49 AM
"i cant believe some people still think wrestling is real"

who , in this thread , has said that wrestling is real , as in thinks that the wrestlers really hit each other ?
or is it that you have been waiting so long to use that 6th sense pic for so long that ur twisting people's words in order to have a reason to use it ?





Title: Re:EXTREME blood loss at WWE Judgment Day
Post by: .:DayGoStyLz:. on June 01, 2004, 10:56:40 AM
"i cant believe some people still think wrestling is real"

who , in this thread , has said that wrestling is real , as in thinks that the wrestlers really hit each other ?
or is it that you have been waiting so long to use that 6th sense pic for so long that ur twisting people's words in order to have a reason to use it ?







talk to Frenchy...
Title: Re:EXTREME blood loss at WWE Judgment Day
Post by: ARYC on June 01, 2004, 11:20:15 AM
"talk to Frenchy"
no he said that Eddy the INJURY was real , had he said "Bradshaw beat up Eddie so bad he ended going to the hospital because of all the blood he lost" THEN he would be saying that wrestling is real
Title: Re:EXTREME blood loss at WWE Judgment Day
Post by: .:DayGoStyLz:. on June 01, 2004, 03:54:37 PM
"talk to Frenchy"
no he said that Eddy the INJURY was real , had he said "Bradshaw beat up Eddie so bad he ended going to the hospital because of all the blood he lost" THEN he would be saying that wrestling is real

how long have u been on this board?? LOL If he comes on here and says that yes, wrestling is FAKE with no if's ands or BUTS...argument over. But goodluck lol
Title: Re:EXTREME blood loss at WWE Judgment Day
Post by: Sikotic™ on June 01, 2004, 04:22:56 PM
I was watching that shit at my friends house. His forehead got fucked up.
Title: Re:EXTREME blood loss at WWE Judgment Day
Post by: platinumk777 on June 01, 2004, 06:30:24 PM
Did any of you catch the Guerrero vs Bradshaw match Judgment Day? Guerrero botched his blade job, and as a result, ended up losing an approximate of 1.5 to 2 pints of blood. After the match, he went into shock and was taken to the hospital to be treated with IV fluids. And just this week on Smackdown, Guerrero turned pale and passed out due to overexhaustion and the effects of the blood loss. Paramedics rushed in, gave him oxygen and rushed him out.

I've watched wrestling for 15 years, and I've never seen anyone lose blood the way Guerrero did last week. In a matter of seconds after the blade job, the blood was squirting so much that he was covered in blood from his forehead to his waist. Believe it or not, this made me more squeamish than the beheading video.

http://www.4w-wrestling.com/ppv2/index05.shtml (http://www.4w-wrestling.com/ppv2/index05.shtml)

I think this pic was taken 3-4 seconds after the blade job. Feel free to browse the pics and see the damage. I remember the crowd screaming "ohhhhhhhhh" in shock when they saw that image. It was just too intense, and I'm pretty concerned for this guy, cause he's in terrible shape right now.

Did any of you see this? What did you think about it?

(http://www.ebaumsworld.com/forumfun/negative9.jpg) i cant believe some people still think wrestling is real  ::)

Here, since you're amused by these shitty pics, and no one asked you a fuckin thing...

(http://www.ebaumsworld.com/forumfun/stfu7.jpg)

I was correct in the assumption that his blood loss did take its toll on him. Aside from Bez, who actually DID read what I was saying, some of you idiots, namely this faggot verbalassaulta who ends his post off by saying "i cant believe some people still think wrestling is real  ::)"... I suggest you thoroughly read every post made before you come in with a wise ass comment. Besides, your -153 Karma proves your word doesn't mean shit on this board.

Was I too quick in assuming that Guerrero passing out on Smackdown was legit? Yes. Was I too quick in assuming that his blood loss was a serious matter, and hardly comparable to other blade jobs performed in wrestling history? Not whatsoever.

Now, before idiots like Verbalassaulta step in and try to act smart, lemme write this in big fonts, and hopefully it might sink in for some of you thickheaded fucks...

I KNOW WRESTLING IS FAKE, AND I'M THE LAST TO ARGUE THAT

I just started this thread to hear from others who saw the match too, with absolutely no intentions of debating or arguing. Instead, my thread has attracted people who haven't even seen the match, biting my head off, because they think I'm a firm believer in wrestling. So to those who are going to post only to accuse me of believing in wrestling, solely because I acknowledged the severity of the blood loss, I say pretty please, with a cherry on top, shut the fuck up.

Now feel free to *diss* me and put up funny little ebaumsworld pictures depicting how stupid I am, because I honestly am sick and tired of arguing pointlessly. Thanks to those who actually posted relevant comments in this thread (even though they were few)
Title: Re:EXTREME blood loss at WWE Judgment Day
Post by: da_notorious_mack on June 02, 2004, 04:16:07 AM
good post MK..but dude you seem a bit hung up on karma..thats twice in this thread alone youve mentioned it...NOOOOBOOOOODDDDY CARRRRRRRRRRRRRES....


oh yah did anyone see that Rocky film..i hope rocky's okay..did u see all the blood he lost OMG.....lol
Title: Re:EXTREME blood loss at WWE Judgment Day
Post by: ARYC on June 02, 2004, 09:19:06 AM
"how long have u been on this board?? LOL If he comes on here and says that yes, wrestling is FAKE with no if's ands or BUTS...argument over. But goodluck lol"

HAH!!! IN YOUR FACE BIATCH!!!
Title: Re:EXTREME blood loss at WWE Judgment Day
Post by: bez on June 02, 2004, 12:26:48 PM
I know what he means though.  This thread has gone from talking about the blood and blading to actually questioning wheather wrestling is real or fake.  

My point is, he may of cut too deep, he may of lost some blood but I doubt he lost that much that he did actually collapse and is actually feeling the effects of it.  As I have said if it was as serious as everyone is making out the match wouldn't of continued.

This thread is dumb now, I suggest everyone just lets it go, its not getting anyone n e where, ppl have voiced their views and opinions, just leave it be.
Title: Re:EXTREME blood loss at WWE Judgment Day
Post by: .:DayGoStyLz:. on June 02, 2004, 03:37:46 PM
"how long have u been on this board?? LOL If he comes on here and says that yes, wrestling is FAKE with no if's ands or BUTS...argument over. But goodluck lol"

HAH!!! IN YOUR FACE BIATCH!!!

in whos face? i didnt see him admit how ubnbelievably fake wrestling is yet.
Title: Re:EXTREME blood loss at WWE Judgment Day
Post by: .:DayGoStyLz:. on June 02, 2004, 03:39:50 PM
good post MK..but dude you seem a bit hung up on karma..thats twice in this thread alone youve mentioned it...NOOOOBOOOOODDDDY CARRRRRRRRRRRRRES....


oh yah did anyone see that Rocky film..i hope rocky's okay..did u see all the blood he lost OMG.....lol

lol@ tha Karma shit...

oh, and yah..i heard Rocky lost a lot of blood in that movie. He wasnt allowed to make a movie for a few months, (ordered by doctors lol). But, he's ok now...there isnt a mark on him.
Title: Re:EXTREME blood loss at WWE Judgment Day
Post by: ARYC on June 03, 2004, 05:25:36 AM
"in whos face? i didnt see him admit how ubnbelievably fake wrestling is yet."  

may i direct ur attention to:


"Now, before idiots like Verbalassaulta step in and try to act smart, lemme write this in big fonts, and hopefully it might sink in for some of you thickheaded fucks...

I KNOW WRESTLING IS FAKE, AND I'M THE LAST TO ARGUE THAT"

 frenchy is captain MK


so i resume :IN YOUR FACE BIATCH!!!!!!
 
Title: Re:EXTREME blood loss at WWE Judgment Day
Post by: .:DayGoStyLz:. on June 03, 2004, 01:44:22 PM
"in whos face? i didnt see him admit how ubnbelievably fake wrestling is yet."  

may i direct ur attention to:


"Now, before idiots like Verbalassaulta step in and try to act smart, lemme write this in big fonts, and hopefully it might sink in for some of you thickheaded fucks...

I KNOW WRESTLING IS FAKE, AND I'M THE LAST TO ARGUE THAT"

 frenchy is captain MK


so i resume :IN YOUR FACE BIATCH!!!!!!
 


youre right...my bad, you proved your point that wrestling is fake...