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DUBCC - Tha Connection => Outbound Connection => Topic started by: Nima - Dubcnn.com on June 01, 2004, 03:48:42 AM
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Seriously, ain't nothing released that can touch this, West, East, South, Midwest.
This cat been taking over the game and he deserves it, he brought MUSIC back into mainstream HipHop, hes original. AND his rapping is good too, he might not be the most lyrical and metaphorical speaking cat, but he has a message and delivers that well.
I know we've had tons of Kanye thread lately but I just wanted to make another one :P ;D
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haha.. yeah i've pretty much bumped it to death now :)
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To each his own but, "he might be the most lyrical and metaphorical speaking cat"? You must have not heard alot of decent music, EVER. Kanye's flow is total garbage, he needs to stick to producing and even the sped up samples is getting old.
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Yup I agree, by far the best album of 2004. And I agree, he brought MUSIC back, and came with something original and fresh, and I like the sound of it. not just the same ole, same ole thing. Some ppl dont like his rapping style, but I think he's pretty good at it and has progressed a lot
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To each his own but, "he might be the most lyrical and metaphorical speaking cat"? You must have not heard alot of decent music, EVER.
I think he wanted to say "he might NOT be the most lyrical and metaphorical speaking cat, but...."
makes more sense dude
and everyone knows that he doesnt have a flow like a Crooked I but he's decent
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To each his own but, "he might be the most lyrical and metaphorical speaking cat"? You must have not heard alot of decent music, EVER. Kanye's flow is total garbage, he needs to stick to producing and even the sped up samples is getting old.
oh shit LOL i forgot the NOT i meant he might NOT be haha
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like ive said before. he aint that great with his lyrics, but the music and the simplicity of the lyrics bring back a sense of nostalgia of old hip hop music which was more positive and simple. and agree best album of 2004 so far. i like how he is able to relate to all levels of rap/hiphop... hes got talib and mos def and common(3 of the best in the game).. and then hes got people like Jay Z, twista and Ludacris.... and man he knows what the fuck is up..going to Bosko! minus breathe in breathe out, i liked every song on this album. Him and Lil jon pretty much have the game on lock right now. and thats why they have the lil jon workout plan. is that shit even released yet?
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I had the potential to be album of the year but the CD has like 8 skippers outta 20 tracks. The other 12 tracks are great but there is a lot of bullshit on there. I still think that Royce Da 5'9" has the best album this year.
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I still think that Royce Da 5'9" has the best album this year.
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I still think that Royce Da 5'9" has the best album this year.
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well, i'd definitely agree on best...uhm, let's call it 'mainstream' album of 2004. There were a few others I really luved, but College Dropout was one of the best fa sure. Like Nima and a couple others said, he might not be a lyricist the calibre of Nas or Crooked I, but his lyrics are well delivered and he got an own, unique style lyrically which is more important than bein able to kick doubles and shit IMO. And production-wise he's a genius and most songs on his album are proof of that
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strong disagree. kanye is as overrated as it can get.
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Death Is Certain >>> College Dropout
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It's the best of 04, but that ain't sayin' much.
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The album is whack. Some of the beats are nice but his lyrics and chorus's are just horrible. Twista's album is the best album from this year.
peace
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This is the only album I've bought this year.
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^^^^^^^same here......shits hot......he may not have a great flow....but he gets his fuckin message across.....i love that shit...
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well, i'd definitely agree on best...uhm, let's call it 'mainstream' album of 2004. There were a few others I really luved, but College Dropout was one of the best fa sure. Like Nima and a couple others said, he might not be a lyricist the calibre of Nas or Crooked I, but his lyrics are well delivered and he got an own, unique style lyrically which is more important than bein able to kick doubles and shit IMO. And production-wise he's a genius and most songs on his album are proof of that
^^^^I agree.
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my verdicts still out i havn't heard any actual released album that i have been taken back from or even bumped alot, well actually i have hi-c's album. i hope the second half of the year is a bit more fruitfull
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DOPE ALBUM!
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it took me a while to get into this album, there are still parts i dont feel.. but at first i didnt feel the concept (esp. with all the skits) and didnt feel the general vibe, thought it was too ermm 'fluffy' i guess... but i got into it..
i'll only play these tracks if i'm in the car... (ultra fussy when driving.. lol)
All Falls Down, Spaceship (sometimes), Jesus Walks, Never Let Me Down, Slow Jamz, Through The Wire and Last Call.
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His next album gonna be called "Late Registration" right?
Kanye West is a dumbfuck...he must be really upset he couldn't graduate ::)
Whats next "Course Forgiveness" or "Finals Week" ?
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His next album gonna be called "Late Registration" right?
Kanye West is a dumbfuck...he must be really upset he couldn't graduate ::)
Whats next "Course Forgiveness" or "Finals Week" ?
LOL,
I dont care what his albums are called as long as he keeps droppin fresh shit.
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Only classic joint to drop this year so far.............
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I love this album jus like seer it took a while for me to fully enjoy it and I bump more or elss the same joints:
All Falls Down, Spaceship, Jesus Walks, Breathe in Breathe Out, Last Call, Family business(rarely), School Spirit...no skits they are funny but there are too many :-X
Last Call is prolly my fav from the album
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I made a thread about a week after this album dropped "College Dropout is CLASSIC" and I still feel the same way. Def. agree with Nima, the best album by far dropped this year, and will still be one of the best for years to come IMO.
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What I can't understand, is how it's possible to dislike Jay-Z and still be a Kanye fan.. :D :P
As a rapper, Kanye is Jay-Z light, but with production skills as well..
Not to mention, Jay-Z albums often have some of the same vibe as CG..
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yep 8)
i was about to make the same post some days ago..but forgot about it..lol
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What I can't understand, is how it's possible to dislike Jay-Z and still be a Kanye fan.. :D :P
As a rapper, Kanye is Jay-Z light, but with production skills as well..
Not to mention, Jay-Z albums often have some of the same vibe as CG..
kiss it.. i dunno.. i just dont vibe off of jay-z... and freely admit its on more of a personal level than anything else.
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LOL did anyone read the .nfo of Kanye_West-Unreleased_Joints_Vol_2-VLS-2004-RFL? ;D
ллн Dear Kanye West олл
ллн олл
ллн I hate to say this , but I hate you. олл
ллн олл
ллн I hate the fact that you sample just as much as P. олл
ллн Diddy did when he was called Puff Daddy. олл
ллн олл
ллн I saw that you had a car accident and for a minute олл
ллн you made me feel kind of sympathetic and a little bit олл
ллн psyched up that you made a song with your mouth wired олл
ллн shut, then i realised what a mediocre rapper you are. олл
ллн олл
ллн I hate that every damn time I turn on my radio or олл
ллн television I hear your voice, something you produced or олл
ллн see your face. Yes Kanye, I do hate you ! олл
ллн олл
ллн Did the whole World get brainwashed by you олл
ллн for a minute?... олл
ллн олл
ллн the sped up vocals thing was ok for a second, олл
ллн but has been done to death. олл
ллн олл
ллн I often wonder if you wasn't associated with Jay-Z олл
ллн how many kids would check for you? олл
ллн олл
ллн their is nothing new or original on this album. олл
ллн "Kanye" is NOT the saviour of Hip Hop. олл
ллн олл
ллн Your album is weak and boring, as a rap listener since олл
ллн 1982 I have seen too much hype over substance & this олл
ллн is a clear case of that. олл
ллн олл
ллн I feel like you are struggling to match words олл
ллн together like a colorblind person struggles to find олл
ллн a matching pair of socks. Instead of nodding my head олл
ллн to most of the songs, I sit, puzzled, staring at my олл
ллн stereo trying to fiqure out what you are saying. олл
ллн олл
ллн Maybe if you had stayed in college a little олл
ллн longer you would be able to come up with a more олл
ллн complex rhyme scheme- not the grade school word олл
ллн play your working with now. олл
ллн олл
ллн Kanye , stick to producing man , and try formulating a олл
ллн joint without sampling all the damm time. олл
ллн олл
ллн Your appraoch and marketing is spot on , the way you олл
ллн tried to make yourself accepted by the "backpack" олл
ллн and "jiggy" community was very clever marketing. олл
ллн However i find it hard to believe i am the only олл
ллн person who thinks your album is weak , you have the олл
ллн weakest flow and are lame when riding beats. Your олл
ллн is like a cheap Talib Kweli with an even worse flow олл
ллн Face it , you can't rap and can barely even rhyme олл
ллн I find it amazing that people think your CD is good олл
ллн at all... олл
ллн олл
ллн Just because you reviewed it 300 times yourself, олл
ллн calling it 5 stars... олл
ллн олл
ллн Personally i don't believe the hype... олл
ллн it's no wonder the price of this CD isdropping like олл
ллн a rock , олл
ллн because it's terrible . олл
ллн олл
ллн In fact , it's the most OVERRATED CD I've heard олл
ллн in years! Your flow is garbage. олл
ллн A friend of mine had the audacity to compare this олл
ллн abominable collection of trash to 'Illmatic' олл
ллн ...ILLMATIC!! Touching again upon his subject олл
ллн matter, I must say, that your lyrical content олл
ллн is nothing more than the sum total of years of олл
ллн recycled verbal trash. The paucity of lyrical олл
ллн invention and uniqueness is disturbing, unacceptable олл
ллн and just plain garbage.. I 'spose the 'R' was correct олл
ллн when he said that no one could 'Follow The Leader' олл
ллн ....you sure as hell couldn't! олл
ллн олл
ллн That everyone rates your CD a ridiculous 5-stars олл
ллн is not indicative of its true worth, but more олл
ллн evident of the state of major label hip hop as олл
ллн being in the lyrical doldrums. олл
ллн That we've been plagued with lyrical redundancy олл
ллн for so long is the reason why College Dropout олл
ллн is lauded as the next best thing. It's absurd. олл
ллн олл
ллн The fact that reviewers are giving this album олл
ллн five stars and claiming how it's a move for олл
ллн hip hop in the right direction just shows how олл
ллн sorry hip hop has become over the last decade олл
ллн But even more desperate than that is how you олл
ллн constantly throw "material things" in our face олл
ллн to prove you've made it. олл
ллн олл
ллн Man I remeber when people said that rappers like олл
ллн Willie D(from the Geto Boys) were trash, but at олл
ллн least he had the decency to make a song called олл
ллн "Go Back to School". You have a whole nutha agenda. олл
ллн You would love for everyone to become uneducated олл
ллн idiots like yourlself. In theory, I guess it олл
ллн makes perfect sense-cause only a brain-dead олл
ллн zombie would spend Ѓ15 bucks on a cd like this. олл
ллн олл
ллн Dumbed down for the masses-that's what this music олл
ллн is. You are rapidly becoming the poster child for олл
ллн the staement "ignorance is bliss" олл
ллн You need to finish your degree because once people олл
ллн find out you have hoodwinked them, your career will олл
ллн be over. олл
ллн олл
ллн P.S. I'm not being a hater, I'm just tellin' it like олл
ллн it is. олл
ллн олл
ллн Rocket Man. олл
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As I read the above letter to kanye "Selfish" by Slum Villiage came in SIRIUS sattelite radio television thingy, A track produced by Kanye with no..NO sped up vocals, just straight up production where Kanye spits on the second verse and KILLS the track, the best verse I've heard in a long time might I add. That song alone discredits everything in the above letter to Kanye. Props to Kanye for being in demand and slaying the rap game in front of and behind the mic, keep doin ya thing.
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LMFAO @ that letter. that is sum funny ass shit.
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As I read the above letter to kanye "Selfish" by Slum Villiage came in SIRIUS sattelite radio television thingy, A track produced by Kanye with no..NO sped up vocals, just straight up production where Kanye spits on the second verse and KILLS the track, the best verse I've heard in a long time might I add. That song alone discredits everything in the above letter to Kanye. Props to Kanye for being in demand and slaying the rap game in front of and behind the mic, keep doin ya thing.
No doubt, remember he gotta make room for Ma$e too now, he back! 8)
Oh yeah, and fuck a Nelly, he's back 100% with Bad Boy!
I'm the oldest member on the Bad Boy team,
and I'ma make this nigga Puff mad more cream.
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Last Call is prolly my fav from the album
yup, i loved that joint since day 1.
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Dear Kanye West
I hate to say this , but I hate you.
P.S. I'm not being a hater
::)
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What I can't understand, is how it's possible to dislike Jay-Z and still be a Kanye fan.. :D :P
As a rapper, Kanye is Jay-Z light, but with production skills as well..
Not to mention, Jay-Z albums often have some of the same vibe as CG..
A "light" Jay-Z? Are you serious. They're completely different. What makes Kanye stand out is that he's relateable. While he does have some typical Hip Hop content from time to time, he usually spits shit people can be like "Oh yea, I did that..." Most rappers talk about pushing crack, pushing Bentleys(which Kanye does, too), Pimping and various other things I don't do. Kanye may not be complex, but he's a VERY good emcee. You don't gotta be Chino XL to be considered a dope emcee. Kanye comes with dope lines, great hooks, good concepts and just an overall genuine vibe. He(along with 9th Wonder) is bringing back that Golden Era feel, without over doing it. Hands down, College Dropout is the best album of the year, I don't see how it's not. Aside from the skits, I only skipped that track with Luda, the rest got major play.
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Aside from the skits, I only skipped that track with Luda, the rest got major play.
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A "light" Jay-Z? Are you serious. They're completely different. What makes Kanye stand out is that he's relateable. While he does have some typical Hip Hop content from time to time, he usually spits shit people can be like "Oh yea, I did that..." Most rappers talk about pushing crack, pushing Bentleys(which Kanye does, too), Pimping and various other things I don't do. Kanye may not be complex, but he's a VERY good emcee. You don't gotta be Chino XL to be considered a dope emcee. Kanye comes with dope lines, great hooks, good concepts and just an overall genuine vibe. He(along with 9th Wonder) is bringing back that Golden Era feel, without over doing it. Hands down, College Dropout is the best album of the year, I don't see how it's not. Aside from the skits, I only skipped that track with Luda, the rest got major play.
Jay-Z is no Ras Kass neither, Kanye is similar to Jay-Z in many ways, and if you ask him, I'm sure that he will tell you that he's very Jay-Z influenced..
Jay-Z is considered "God MC" by many, even many rappers, he's considered top 5 by MANY people, he comes with dope lines, good hooks, and all the other stuff you can say about Kanye..
Kanye is a good rapper in many ways, but overall he's years & multiple albums behind Jay-Z.
"They're completely different" is not true at all, there's plenty of similarities.
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Oh ok, so any rapper who comes with good hooks and dope lines is Jay-Z light? LMAO.
Listen to their content. Kanye talks about his being self concious, his family, his accident, getting girls, Jesus, school, working 9 to 5, social issues, etc. Jay-Z is more on some random player shit. He talks about hustling in the street, sometimes he'll get introspective, for the most part it's just generic studio thug music.
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I personally think Kanye is very good as a producer. We forget also that Dilated Peoples This Way has no speed vocals, and same with Get By by Talib Kweli. As a producer, Kanye also did the Alicia Keys You Don't Know My Name, and that new Brandy song. Kanye is doing his thing, and what's wrong with his production style. Dr. Dre has had the same style since B-Please, and most every producer has their style they stick too. Kanye's is more of Hip-Hop on a commercial level, it works for him, let it be. No hating.
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this is NOT the best album of 2004, kanye west is GOOD @ rappin but just an avarage producer IMO
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Oh ok, so any rapper who comes with good hooks and dope lines is Jay-Z light? LMAO.
Listen to their content. Kanye talks about his being self concious, his family, his accident, getting girls, Jesus, school, working 9 to 5, social issues, etc. Jay-Z is more on some random player shit. He talks about hustling in the street, sometimes he'll get introspective, for the most part it's just generic studio thug music.
I'm not saying they're sound-a-likes, but there's similarities..
Take a listen to some newer Kanye tracks, what does he rap about..
Picking up girls, model chicks, about being famous & becoming a big name, drinking, clubbing, driving fast cars, ordering Bentleys, fashion stuff, shouting out his people, etc..
Kanye is going to be rapping more and more about stuff like this, the bigger he gets, and the more fame he gets..
Jay-Z changed from poor street hustler slangin crack to big-time rich C.E.O. playboy mogul dude, and Kanye looks ready to go the same way.. they rap about what they live like, not only like they did when they didn't have it all.. (http://community.allhiphop.com/images/smilies/fragend013.gif)
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Jay-Z is garbage don't compare him to Kanye West in anyway.
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he's a new fad....in the last year i've heard the term classic thrown around far too many times...GRODT, Black Album, College Dropout.... funny thing is that only time can say what is classic or not...
i still see clubs play something off of doggystyle or chronic and fill the dance floor. now that's classic music....
i'm not saying these albums aren't classic, but we'll see....doubt it though
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I still think that Royce Da 5'9" has the best album this year.