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Title: What do you consider old school
Post by: pappy on June 14, 2004, 08:42:51 PM
I dunno i was talkin to some1 an they were like ooo shit this album is old school.  The album was mobb deep - the infamous.  I was like ummmm yea old school.  so what do you guys consider old school
Title: Re:What do you consider old school
Post by: Trauma-san on June 14, 2004, 08:43:52 PM
89' back in Rap.  '78 back in everything else.  
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Post by: Suga Foot on June 14, 2004, 08:48:01 PM
for the most part I consider anything from 1991 and back old school.  
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Post by: GangstaBoogy on June 14, 2004, 08:50:27 PM
not what BET thinks. on 106 & park they be havin missy elliot as the old school jam
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Post by: Trauma-san on June 14, 2004, 09:13:52 PM
Man, sometimes I think "A.J. oughta get smacked in the head" but then I think "Fuck, I'd act like an idiot for money, too".  I'd say Xzibit was old school if I got paid what they get paid.
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Post by: white Boy on June 15, 2004, 06:10:39 PM
id say like 94 and before, in rap
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Post by: Tha Crip on June 15, 2004, 07:37:36 PM
eric b & rakim/big daddy kane/krs 1......those dudes r old school in my book
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Post by: DAYUM on June 15, 2004, 09:01:03 PM
before 90
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Post by: Primo on June 15, 2004, 09:53:04 PM
Eric B and Rakim, Big Daddy Kane, Grandmaster Flash etc.  

It bothers me when people say "OO thats mad old school"

I was bumping WU Tang Forever and a dude was like this shits old school I was like this shit was made in 97..

I noticed mostly kids that got into hip hop when Eminem came out say that.
Chicks usually say it too.
Title: Re:What do you consider old school
Post by: Kill on June 16, 2004, 11:35:51 AM
Real old school, like Pr1mo said, early RUN-DMC, Grandmaster Flash, Sugarhill Gang etc. ...from Kool Herc to BDP maybe

After that it gets kinda difficult...i wouldn't exactly call Step In The Arena or even Mecca And The Soul Brother old school, but sumhow it ain't what i'd call 'new school' either...sumwhere in between to me

anyways, IMO nothing that dropped after Illmatic can be called old school anymore...before that u can argue maybe
Title: Re:What do you consider old school
Post by: West C. Connected on June 16, 2004, 12:00:17 PM
It depends on the style. Nothing after 96/97 is what I call real old skool, but I use old skool as a style, not a date. Like, Premo is still old skool, Dre in N.W.A. was old skool, him now is not old skool. But that's just me, and I'm insane. :D
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Post by: soopadoopaflykid on June 16, 2004, 04:23:34 PM
90 and keep goin back
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Post by: PLANT on June 16, 2004, 04:43:53 PM
When I was a kid I was growing up on Public Enemy, Maestro Fresh Wes, Bel Biv Devoe ect.   That shit is old school IMO.
Title: Re:What do you consider old school
Post by: N-Sane Brain on June 17, 2004, 02:27:16 AM
It's hard to say a certain date for the beginning of the newskool, like Kill said there are a couple of releases that you can't describe anymore.

Actually I wouldn't call the rap today newskool, it's nothing for me anymore. Not that I hate the rap of the new millenium, but the newskool ended in like '98 for me, now it's un-describe-able :D Mainstream/Underground era or whatever...

Consusing, I know, but just like my Dutch homie: I'm an insane muthafucka :D
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Post by: M Dogg™ on June 17, 2004, 11:17:13 AM
Old school you can tell by the quality of the recording. Anything pre OG Chronic to me is old school. Ice Cube with his hard AmeriKKKa'z Most Wanted sound, N.W.A. old school 2nd II None, that old school N2Deep shit, SCC with You Gotta Deal Wit It, Eric B. & Rakim, LL Cool J with Around the Way Girl, Public Enemy up until Don't Trust It, During 1993, I think production of rap started becoming better quality, so pre-1993, or pre OG Chronic in late 1992, is old school to me. From 1992-1999 I'd say that's like the middle school, with 1996 being the year hip-hop feel apart with 'Pac's death and in 1997 the lines between underground and commercial started becoming more clear. In 1999 I think it became very clear, and we are now in the modern era of hip-hop were instead of someone catching a buzz on the streets like a DMX, Nas, Snoop, or anybody, now a rapper has to have a few underground records before they can become famous. Before it was featured on a few tracks and people will hear you, now it's put a few underground tracks, and get a hot single. That I think started in 1999, shown by how Mos Def wasn't a commercial sucess. So pre-1999 is a different era, still pre-1993 is old school.
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Post by: Throwback on June 17, 2004, 01:17:11 PM
that thing that the beastie boys do is pretty old school for me too though. so every thing that sounds like that and pre '94 is old school IMO
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Post by: smerlus on June 17, 2004, 01:24:53 PM
i say:

Beginning - 90: Old School

90 - 98 - The Golden Age

98 - Today: The Dark Ages
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Post by: OpTiCaL on June 17, 2004, 02:37:27 PM
i say:

Beginning ?

86 - 90 (Old School):

90 - 98 - The Golden Age - (92-96 Platinum Age)

98 - 02: The Dark Ages:

New Beginning

? 02 - ?

Title: Re:What do you consider old school
Post by: M Dogg™ on June 17, 2004, 05:15:36 PM
If you go by ages... it's weird, to me old school/new school is the sound, producer driven. Era's are how rappers go.

1979-1886 old school

1986-1989 true school

1988-1995 gangsta rap era

1994-1997 costal war era

1997-1999 the aftermath of 'Pac and Biggie's death

1999-2002 the commercial years

2002-now for the ladies era
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Post by: The Predator on June 18, 2004, 12:31:21 AM
Afrika Bambatta is old skool.
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Post by: N-Sane Brain on June 18, 2004, 02:46:31 PM
1886 old school

That can definitely be called oldskool, without a doubt :D

1986-1989 true school

1988-1995 gangsta rap era

1994-1997 costal war era

'88 is two things, '94 is two things ??? Just a typo I think, but good listing.
Title: Re:What do you consider old school
Post by: white Boy on June 18, 2004, 03:29:11 PM
1886 old school

That can definitely be called oldskool, without a doubt :D

1986-1989 true school

1988-1995 gangsta rap era

1994-1997 costal war era

'88 is two things, '94 is two things ??? Just a typo I think, but good listing.
lmao..
Title: Re:What do you consider old school
Post by: M Dogg™ on June 18, 2004, 03:31:38 PM
'88 is two things, '94 is two things ??? Just a typo I think, but good listing.

Notice both 1988 and 1994 are considered the two best years in hip-hop. 1988 and 1989 were both true school eras in the east coast, but in 1988 N.W.A. brought in gangsta rap in the west, and well gangsta rap basically died with 2Pac in 1996, I'd say 1995 is the end with it being the esculation of the costal wars. 1994 on the east was the east coast comeback to set up the coastal wars. Between 1988 and 1996, all types of shit happened in rap that can't even be lable as one era.
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Post by: Juronimo on June 20, 2004, 04:10:21 PM
Old school to me is anything before 1990. It had a certain raw energy to it before then. After 1990, the sound became more refined.
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Post by: willie_d on June 22, 2004, 04:42:33 AM
I guess it depends on what time you grow up.
To me, old school is the era of Treacherous Three and Funky Four Plus One. Others call my man Kane, Ra, and Kris One old school but to me that's the Golden Age.
I guess someone 18 years old would tell that Biggie's Life After Death is old school.
Title: Re:What do you consider old school
Post by: BIG.DADDY on June 22, 2004, 05:20:19 AM
I consider songs that have the (4) 16 bar verse format with a real DJ scratching or cutting instead of the now average singy songy hook. I dont want to put a date on it because anyone could follow this format and be considered old school.
Title: Re:What do you consider old school
Post by: OpTiCaL on June 22, 2004, 10:16:35 AM
Willie_D :

Thats what we trying to say, nice one bro
Title: Re:What do you consider old school
Post by: CRAFTY on June 22, 2004, 11:03:09 AM
Pac summed it all up in "Old School", from MATW...he mentions a lot of cats: from Eric B & Rakim to Melle Mel, Doug E. Fresh to Kurtis Blow, etc...
It's actually sort of a Hip-Hop history lesson for those that don't know shit about old school Hip-Hop 8)