West Coast Connection Forum
DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: lil layzie on June 15, 2004, 03:35:44 AM
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Na mean na mean...... 8)
Everyones talking about eastcosat artists,every radio station plays east coast and south dirrty bullshit.....who the fuck gone chjange that snoop wont.......or maybe he will......
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general consensus is that they been blackballed by east coast player haters.
whoever controls the airwaves controls the sales.
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Well,why dont california have a radio station who plays only westcoast music,but a big one so that the new yorkers can listen to it.....shit the industry is a bitch,just like my ex girl,but i fucked her just like the west gone fuck the industy......oh yeah! ;D
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because the cali radio stations are owned by the same people who own all the other ones everywhere.. they play what those people with the power and money want them to play.
just because a radio station is IN the west coast doesnt mean its RUN by the west coast.
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because the cali radio stations are owned by the same people who own all the other ones everywhere.. they play what those people with the power and money want them to play.
just because a radio station is IN the west coast doesnt mean its RUN by the west coast.
That's what I was going to say. Bein that I am from L.A. and still keep up on everything goin on there, I realize the stations play a little bit of LA rap, but the fact that they don't play shit LA in turn makes LA people hate on LA rap. You don't know how many fake ass NY people are in LA that I know. I mean people who only think NY rappers are tite, basically worshippin Jadakiss, always wearin Flat brims, usin east coast slang, and thinkin Multis are 10 times as important as delivery. It's so many people in LA who don't know who Crooked I or Sly Boogy or Ras Kass are, and LA people know nothin about Bay Area rappers, but who are they to blame?
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whoever controls the airwaves controls the sales.
And that's a sad thing, period.
Whatever happened to actually caring about the music instead of just being interested in artists who move a lot of units?
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the problem is the marketplace is biased towards profit.
an example.
behind the scenes. say 2 rappers have the same song, same delivery everthing.
1.. one is young has decent looks. will appeal to teenage girls.
2.. the other isnt too hot...(e.g. bad azz.. lol)
looks aside, theres another factor.
3.. has a decent deal
4.. will get paid pennies
who are they gonna put out?
on the looks thing alone..
they'll put out '1' because they can get this guy all over MTV
on the money thing
they'll put out '4' because they stand to make more profit.
stop living in a fantasy world and remember that the second word in "music business" is business, and remember that is the one that rules logic there.
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whoever controls the airwaves controls the sales.
And that's a sad thing, period.
Whatever happened to actually caring about the music instead of just being interested in artists who move a lot of units?
Well, It's not the fact that people will only buy music that sells...it's that they buy what they hear. I know people outside of L.A. who woulda bought Suga Free, but they didn't know he existed until I played it for them. That's how it is with most music. Some people are brainwashed and will only buy what is on TV and radio...but some people would buy music that is good, but they don't even know it exists.
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thats why i say fuck the radio 8)
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LOL, the funniest and most ironic thing about the whole thing is that even on this forum most people sleep on the westcoast. The bay gets absolutely no luv, and if you and dpg/aftermath/deathrow related, than at least 50% of this forum won't even check you out.
I've made many many topics about dope westcoast acts, and at least 95% of this forum doesn't give a shit. I've even upped many westcoast songs, for dudes to check out, but no one gives a shit. It was really funny to see the thread about Dr. Dre producing a track for Mac Dre's latest album. So many more people on this forum checked it out, just cuz they heard bout Dr. Dre producing a track for him. What's really sad tho is that Khayree produced many many tracks for Mac Dre that are a million times better than that dr. dre track.
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It was really funny to see the thread about Dr. Dre producing a track for Mac Dre's latest album. So many more people on this forum checked it out, just cuz they heard bout Dr. Dre producing a track for him.
I think some of the bay area artists are great, but the last good album by Mac Dre was the Rompilation. That was a while ago.
I'll put it this way. When I saw the tracklisting for E-40's Breakin' News, I saw the name Rankin' Scroo. If it wasn't for the fact that I actually copped the album and liked the work he put in, I wouldn't give a rats ass what he has done.
From my perspective, I think west coast artists just need to say fuck this east/west shit and try to get some exposure on some east coast artists shit. That is the only way the west will come back. E-A-Ski knows that. That's why he's getting down with Kay Slay. Same thing with 40 and DJ Quik. It's not fair, but it's not like if you sit here complaining about it, the suits are just gonna be like "oh, maybe we should play Keak Da Sneak just because some guys in Oakland want us to." But I know what you are talking about because they only played Gangsta Nation for about a month up here in Minneapolis and they never played the second single. The way my friend puts it (excuse the slur), he says the west coast is too nigger. Again, BS. But the kid is way to in to his MTV and I'm sure that's how a lot of these other kids think.
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Mac dre has dropped a lot of dope albums since rompilation. like I said, peeps on this forum sleep.
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Mac dre has dropped a lot of dope albums since rompilation. like I said, peeps on this forum sleep.
Just because you think they are good doesn't mean I would. That's not sleepin', that's preference.
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Mac dre has dropped a lot of dope albums since rompilation. like I said, peeps on this forum sleep.
Just because you think they are good doesn't mean I would. That's not sleepin', that's preference.
he has eazily dropped better albums than rompilation, since it was released. I don't know if you checked them out or not, I can't see how you would say they are crappy tho if u really have checked them. Rapper Gone Bad is way better than Rompilation.
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The West gotta step it up too and put out some shit that's undeniable to anyone's ear, even the haters. It goes both ways in my eyes.
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The West gotta step it up too and put out some shit that's undeniable to anyone's ear, even the haters. It goes both ways in my eyes.
that holds no water at all. Ja Rule and Nelly both sold millions of copies of their albums, while DJ Quiks' album UTI didn't do shit. ain't no way in hell those albums were even 10% as good as quik's album. Roscoe's album was great, it didn't sell for shit, meanwhile missy elliot is on every radio station, and probably selling millions of copies. very rarely does music sales have anything to do with talent in this day in age.
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^ yes but those sold off the back of a previously built "mtv fanbase" and with an established 'mtv image' whereas quik doesnt have that to build upon. he has a fan base that can barely push him to gold every release.
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^ yes but those sold off the back of a previously built "mtv fanbase" and with an established 'mtv image' whereas quik doesnt have that to build upon. he has a fan base that can barely push him to gold every release.
Took the words right outta my mouth :)
The new generation of hip-hop listeners don't even know Quik's name. There's no way Nelly or Murphy Lee or any of those cats put out better shit than Quik, but they got the money and backing.
Also, when I was talking about the West isn't putting out anything that's undeniable, I mean that it isn't nothing we haven't heard before. The West needs some originality.
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Here in the Grimey east I have heard some west coast shit that is in the regular rotation. They play Xzibit, WSC, Knoc, i remember hearing WCs The Streetz song regularly. I have 4 hip hop stations to choose from. I do like some rappers from the West but they gotta be tight..I think the case is westcoast heads need to open there ears up and listen to underground cats from the east.
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Why do you base it on the Eastcoast?
There's a big Underground scene in NYC, but their music isn't aired in the radio either. It's not the Eastcoast that is mainly played, it's the mainstream (but yes, the most mainstream music is probably from the Eastcoast). But what about Lil' Jon, N.E.R.D., Ludacris, Chingy, Nelly, J-Kwon, etc. All from the South or the Midwest.
Even big Eastcoast cats like KRS or Public Enemy are rarely played on radio.
RADIO! These suckers never play me
Or Chuck - But do you think we really give a...?
So the problem with the radio isn't an ignorance against the Westcoast, it's against unpopular music.
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^On point^ The eastcoast underground is just as big as the westcoast underground if not bigger.
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people on here just don't understand that there are fads in this world, and things go out of style.
My fav type of music by far is funk, g-funk, p-funk. that shit was popular in the first half of the nineties, very popular. in fact the most popular rap out there. its a fad just like anything else. Look how popular hula hoops used to be? You never see one of them nowadays. Look how popular action movies starring people like Arnie, Van Dam, Sly Stone, etc were at one point. those actors or their type of action movie is not popular at all anymore. There is fads in EVERYTHING.
I still luv funk rap over anything else, even tho most people don't dig it anymore. The westcoast makes rap that pretty much all has the same distinct sound/flow of an album. The south does the same, and so does the eastcoast.
Like dude said, its not about where the music comes from, its about what kind of music is popular. The west's type of music was popular in the 90's, and the south wasn't even hardly heard of, beside a few rappers. the problem is, the west still makes the same type of sounding music. its good for fans like me, but not good for rappers wanting to go platinum and sell lots of records.
but just because music is not popular, does not mean that it is not good music. and vice versa.
the westcoast is gonna be kept on the downlow untill:
A) they create a new style that happens to catch the public's attention.
B) gangsta rap/funk rap somehow becomes in style again (this is highly unlikely)
C) Some person(s) decides to invest a shitload of money into westcoast rap and promote and market the shit out of rappers out here.
what I think will happen:
someone is gonna come out the westcoast with a style that is A LOT different than the typical westcoast cat. Someone else who is a smart business man, and a good ear, is gonna invest money into this rapper. with investment comes promotion. with promotion comes airplay. with airplay comes sales and popularity. with sales and popularity comes other people hopping on the bandwagon tryna do the same thing. and so many other new and up and comming rappers will try to duplicate that style, some way or another. How long will this take to happen? I have no idea.
A lot of people think that the Game is this rapper, but I disagree. He brings nothing new at all to the table. He may have great sales, and may become very popular himself, but for rap as a whole, he won't do anything.
and its gonna take new rappers to bring back the west. As much as I luv these old established guys, they can't do it, because they are nothing new. and as much as people say snoop and dre are the ones who can do it, I disagree. Again they may have great sales themselves, and may be very popular, but as a whole for rap, they aren't gonna do anything anymore.