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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: UKnowWhatItIs: welcome to my traps....game over on June 20, 2004, 10:54:33 AM
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Props to WCRydaz
As yall know Tray Dee is locked up and awaiting trial. Well in the next coming weeks his trial will begin, and he is facing a 20 year sentence. Let's hope all goes well and the vet can continue to drop them hits for us fans.
This news comes straight from the man himself, big thanks to Hu$tleboy Floyd and E.White-who is serving his time right now also- for the news.
Man,this shits sad,this dude is like already forty or somethin like that.& what was this for?For shooting at some people,stealing a car & a gun?I'm sure its about sth else we dont know about.
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Although I like him a lot as a rapper, I'll say:
DON'T DO THE CRIME IF YOU CAN'T DO THE TIME.
Rappers are not special individuals. Criminal actions should be punished.
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lol Im qoutoing my post from Gangsta Shit for the 3rd muthafuckin time.
I feel the same way but this dude didnt kill anybody & he's gettin 20 years!Other people commit murder & get like 8 years.Plus this just means we aint ever gonna get an album from Tray Deee.
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^ Well,theoretically it's possible for him to make an album when he's 60...I bet he'd be able to drop some pretty dope rhymes after having the opportunity of perfecting them for 20 years!Also,he'd be willing to spit some venom...60 year-old Tray Deee going at 53 year old Snoop. ;D ;D ;D
But nevertheless,we probably won't get a Tray Deee album and that's sad.
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tracey deee already done major time if he gets put back in they'll probably be pushing for maximum sentence
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Although I like him a lot as a rapper, I'll say:
DON'T DO THE CRIME IF YOU CAN'T DO THE TIME.
Rappers are not special individuals. Criminal actions should be punished.
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damn that sucks
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:'( :'( :'(
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damn that sucks
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It sucks from a fan's point of view, but he deserves adequate punishment, like anybody would. I just wonder if 20 years are adequate
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sad
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This will be good for society, Tray Deee is a criminal and belongs in jail.
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This will be good for society, Tray Deee is a criminal and belongs in jail.
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^^yall are morons Tray Deee is one of the realest rappers left...
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DON'T DO THE CRIME IF YOU CAN'T DO THE TIME.
Criminal actions should be punished.
It sucks from a fan's point of view, but he deserves adequate punishment, like anybody would. I just wonder if 20 years are adequate
that's pussy talk. you people must be joking. all this pussy talk disgusts me. these people don't have any respect for the streets. these fucking pussies don't appreciate the streets and think this shit is a game. tray dee deserves to go to prison??? muthafuckaz should get slapped in the fucking mouth for saying some shit like that. these are the same muthafuckaz that snitch to the police and don't understand why you never snitch to the police, even on your enemies. it's the game. cats are out there struggling, trying to keep their heads above water, trying to get ahead. when someone gets caught up in some shit [like this] you don't hate on them. you respect the game. you respect their hustle. snitching is a violation. hating is a violation. these cats are walking around in violation and don't even know.
all these cats talking that "let justice be served talk" clearly have never seen any parts of the streets. this is the mtv crowd that thinks all this shit is a fucking joke or something. the same cats that hear a muthafucka shout thug life and m.o.b. and run around with m.o.b. cats and then get all shocked and amazed when dude gets shot. that want to hate on a dude facing 20 years. "tray dee is a criminal. ras kass is a menace." whiny bitches. cats that call the fbi if any of their friends were engaging in "unsavory conduct". i'm looking at the by products of the commercialization of hip hop, this is the mtv generation that doesn't think shit is real. cats that don't truly respect the message (positive or negative) or the people. and i for one am disgusted. i'm looking around, and it's like i accidentally walked into the middle of a britney spears concert. or maybe the rnc convention. either way i'm appalled.
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Props to WCRydaz
Let's hope all goes well and the vet can continue to drop them hits for us fans.
LOL
How about
"Let's hope all goes well and another life long thug who doesn't have the sense god gave him gets locked the fuck up so we got one less asshole runnin' down the street shooting people"
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DON'T DO THE CRIME IF YOU CAN'T DO THE TIME.
Criminal actions should be punished.
It sucks from a fan's point of view, but he deserves adequate punishment, like anybody would. I just wonder if 20 years are adequate
that's pussy talk. you people must be joking. all this pussy talk disgusts me. these people don't have any respect for the streets. these fucking pussies don't appreciate the streets and think this shit is a game. tray dee deserves to go to prison??? muthafuckaz should get slapped in the fucking mouth for saying some shit like that. these are the same muthafuckaz that snitch to the police and don't understand why you never snitch to the police, even on your enemies. it's the game. cats are out there struggling, trying to keep their heads above water, trying to get ahead. when someone gets caught up in some shit [like this] you don't hate on them. you respect the game. you respect their hustle. snitching is a violation. hating is a violation. these cats are walking around in violation and don't even know.
all these cats talking that "let justice be served talk" clearly have never seen any parts of the streets. this is the mtv crowd that thinks all this shit is a fucking joke or something. the same cats that hear a muthafucka shout thug life and m.o.b. and run around with m.o.b. cats and then get all shocked and amazed when dude gets shot. that want to hate on a dude facing 20 years. "tray dee is a criminal. ras kass is a menace." whiny bitches. cats that call the fbi if any of their friends were engaging in "unsavory conduct". i'm looking at the by products of the commercialization of hip hop, this is the mtv generation that doesn't think shit is real. cats that don't truly respect the message (positive or negative) or the people. and i for one am disgusted. i'm looking around, and it's like i accidentally walked into the middle of a britney spears concert. or maybe the rnc convention. either way i'm appalled.
LOL You must be a Hood Superstar. FUCK THE HOOD. FUCK LIVING POOR. FUCK BREAKING THE LAW. FUCK DRUGS. FUCK MURDER. FUCK BLACK ON BLACK CRIME. FUCK SLINGIN ROCKS. FUCK GANGS. FUCK CRIMINALS. FUCK MURDERERS. FUCK RAPISTS. FUCK DEROGATORY MUSIC. FUCK BEING REAL. FUCK YOU BEING DISGUSTED. FUCK BRITNEY SPEARS. SORRY, JUST HAD TO THROW THAT IN THERE. FUCK THE RNC BEING SOLD OUT. FUCK UNSAVORY CONDUCT. FUCK LYING FOR YOUR FRIENDS. FUCK FRIENDS THAT ARE CRIMINALS. FUCK RESPECT FOR THE STREETS. FUCK THE STREETS, PERIOD. FUCK 'THE GAME'.
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I'm a firm believer in an eye for an eye so despite the fact that I thoroughly enjoy his music......... Death penalty.
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FUCK THE HOOD. FUCK LIVING POOR. FUCK BREAKING THE LAW. FUCK DRUGS. FUCK MURDER. FUCK BLACK ON BLACK CRIME. FUCK SLINGIN ROCKS. FUCK GANGS. FUCK CRIMINALS. FUCK MURDERERS. FUCK RAPISTS. FUCK DEROGATORY MUSIC. FUCK BEING REAL.
look. you're clearly not from the streets. you don't understand how shit works. "the hood" is not lawless; it's self policing. the hood doesn't need outsiders meddling and interfering with the internal affairs. it's a communal thing and you're not a member of the community.
let's get specific. everything you're kicking right now is primarily based on negative stereotypes. murder, gangs, black on black crime...ya ya ya. talk to cats in the streets and they'll tell you what the fuck happened. that shit was never a major problem until drugs hit the streets and shit got very ugly and very crazy. noone liked that shit, but it was something people had to deal with. the whole situation was bad, and everyone knows who allowed that shit to get pumped into the streets. and in the late 80's and early 90's you could lock one individual up and another would take their place. however, for example, in nyc if you take a trip through [most] any hood right now you'll see that shit is getting much better; and old timers will tell you things are getting back to the way they were. not nearly there, but starting to get back. muthafuckaz [outsiders with power] have started wiping their fucking asses, knocced off the genocidal practices and started to shut down the flow of drugs through the communities. and shit is getting better and much less crazy. but "the hood" is, was, and always will be self policing.
clowns like you build up strawmen arguments to act like you have some insight. no one was ever pro-rape, or pro-murder or pro-black on black crime. for you to even think that is assinine. even suggesting that "keeping it real" equates to being "pro-murder" is assinine. suggesting that the hood is some sort of lawless place inhabited by consciousless sociopaths is purely ignorant. it only reflects how clueless some people are about how things work "in the hood". and it's exactly this type of cluelessness and ignorance that people want to keep out. the streets are self-policing because it has to be that way. because outsiders like yourself with these negatively stereotypical and racist views try to come in "claiming to be doing good" and only fuck shit up. it's a community thing and you're just an outsider that doesn't get it.
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Well, I wish him the best of luck. It's fucked up what he did, and he put himself in that situation, oh well.
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hope Tray Deee has fun in prison, i'll make sure i pay my taxes so he always has a prison to wake up in...
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DON'T DO THE CRIME IF YOU CAN'T DO THE TIME.
Criminal actions should be punished.
It sucks from a fan's point of view, but he deserves adequate punishment, like anybody would. I just wonder if 20 years are adequate
that's pussy talk. you people must be joking. all this pussy talk disgusts me. these people don't have any respect for the streets. these fucking pussies don't appreciate the streets and think this shit is a game. tray dee deserves to go to prison??? muthafuckaz should get slapped in the fucking mouth for saying some shit like that. these are the same muthafuckaz that snitch to the police and don't understand why you never snitch to the police, even on your enemies. it's the game. cats are out there struggling, trying to keep their heads above water, trying to get ahead. when someone gets caught up in some shit [like this] you don't hate on them. you respect the game. you respect their hustle. snitching is a violation. hating is a violation. these cats are walking around in violation and don't even know.
all these cats talking that "let justice be served talk" clearly have never seen any parts of the streets. this is the mtv crowd that thinks all this shit is a fucking joke or something. the same cats that hear a muthafucka shout thug life and m.o.b. and run around with m.o.b. cats and then get all shocked and amazed when dude gets shot. that want to hate on a dude facing 20 years. "tray dee is a criminal. ras kass is a menace." whiny bitches. cats that call the fbi if any of their friends were engaging in "unsavory conduct". i'm looking at the by products of the commercialization of hip hop, this is the mtv generation that doesn't think shit is real. cats that don't truly respect the message (positive or negative) or the people. and i for one am disgusted. i'm looking around, and it's like i accidentally walked into the middle of a britney spears concert. or maybe the rnc convention. either way i'm appalled.
shut the fuck up with that shit. "the streets is a game" homie dont tell me i never seen the streets, i grew up in east la. muthafuckas need to realize they cant be "gangsta rappers" they're either a gangsta or a rapper. we've clearly seen the path tray dee chose. and that's coming from a fan, man i love tray dee's music and i wanted to see an album from him. but that's on him if he wanna pull some stupid shit. i wont support his ass. and you can try and live by "the streets game" but what the fuck you doin sittin in front of a computer screen for.
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FUCK THE HOOD. FUCK LIVING POOR. FUCK BREAKING THE LAW. FUCK DRUGS. FUCK MURDER. FUCK BLACK ON BLACK CRIME. FUCK SLINGIN ROCKS. FUCK GANGS. FUCK CRIMINALS. FUCK MURDERERS. FUCK RAPISTS. FUCK DEROGATORY MUSIC. FUCK BEING REAL.
look. you're clearly not from the streets. you don't understand how shit works. "the hood" is not lawless; it's self policing. the hood doesn't need outsiders meddling and interfering with the internal affairs. it's a communal thing and you're not a member of the community.
let's get specific. everything you're kicking right now is primarily based on negative stereotypes. murder, gangs, black on black crime...ya ya ya. talk to cats in the streets and they'll tell you what the fuck happened. that shit was never a major problem until drugs hit the streets and shit got very ugly and very crazy. noone liked that shit, but it was something people had to deal with. the whole situation was bad, and everyone knows who allowed that shit to get pumped into the streets. and in the late 80's and early 90's you could lock one individual up and another would take their place. however, for example, in nyc if you take a trip through [most] any hood right now you'll see that shit is getting much better; and old timers will tell you things are getting back to the way they were. not nearly there, but starting to get back. muthafuckaz [outsiders with power] have started wiping their fucking asses, knocced off the genocidal practices and started to shut down the flow of drugs through the communities. and shit is getting better and much less crazy. but "the hood" is, was, and always will be self policing.
clowns like you build up strawmen arguments to act like you have some insight. no one was ever pro-rape, or pro-murder or pro-black on black crime. for you to even think that is assinine. even suggesting that "keeping it real" equates to being "pro-murder" is assinine. suggesting that the hood is some sort of lawless place inhabited by consciousless sociopaths is purely ignorant. it only reflects how clueless some people are about how things work "in the hood". and it's exactly this type of cluelessness and ignorance that people want to keep out. the streets are self-policing because it has to be that way. because outsiders like yourself with these negatively stereotypical and racist views try to come in "claiming to be doing good" and only fuck shit up. it's a community thing and you're just an outsider that doesn't get it.
God damn... this guy gives me hope about people understanding the 'hood.
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when did this become about the streets? can we keep it on topic about Tray Deee i wanna hear this dude rap again unlike most of the fucking board wtf ive seen alot of hate for the west coast on this board lately wtf?
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I'm a firm believer in an eye for an eye so despite the fact that I thoroughly enjoy his music......... Death penalty.
Death penalty? Is you crazy? I agree that since doing a crime the man should do his time in jail, but death penalty? Fuck that. Nobody should get the death penalty. You give that to a murderer, then you're a murderer yourself. And you ain't any better than him then.
Too bad this shit had to happen to Tray Deee though. No more rhymes from him I guess... I know he should be in jail for doing a crime, and I agree to that, but still it saddens me it had to be him.
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DON'T DO THE CRIME IF YOU CAN'T DO THE TIME.
Criminal actions should be punished.
It sucks from a fan's point of view, but he deserves adequate punishment, like anybody would. I just wonder if 20 years are adequate
that's pussy talk. you people must be joking. all this pussy talk disgusts me. these people don't have any respect for the streets. these fucking pussies don't appreciate the streets and think this shit is a game. tray dee deserves to go to prison??? muthafuckaz should get slapped in the fucking mouth for saying some shit like that. these are the same muthafuckaz that snitch to the police and don't understand why you never snitch to the police, even on your enemies. it's the game. cats are out there struggling, trying to keep their heads above water, trying to get ahead. when someone gets caught up in some shit [like this] you don't hate on them. you respect the game. you respect their hustle. snitching is a violation. hating is a violation. these cats are walking around in violation and don't even know.
all these cats talking that "let justice be served talk" clearly have never seen any parts of the streets. this is the mtv crowd that thinks all this shit is a fucking joke or something. the same cats that hear a muthafucka shout thug life and m.o.b. and run around with m.o.b. cats and then get all shocked and amazed when dude gets shot. that want to hate on a dude facing 20 years. "tray dee is a criminal. ras kass is a menace." whiny bitches. cats that call the fbi if any of their friends were engaging in "unsavory conduct". i'm looking at the by products of the commercialization of hip hop, this is the mtv generation that doesn't think shit is real. cats that don't truly respect the message (positive or negative) or the people. and i for one am disgusted. i'm looking around, and it's like i accidentally walked into the middle of a britney spears concert. or maybe the rnc convention. either way i'm appalled.
first off, i just wrote a long ass response to this and my comp crashed, so i'll make it a lil shorter this time
u need to shut up with that snitchin shit. I could snitch on several people and i'd never do that, that's a rather stupid conclusion from what i said there.
I'ma quote C-Bo on this: "You niggas is doin crime when u not ready to do the time...how can u be in the game"...so i guess he must be on sum pussy shit too. So as you said the hood is self-policing, but that means hood rules colliding with US laws is only logical, since the hood is not officially excluded from the latter. Now I understand u are appalled by the simple-mindedness and the ignorance of certain people or by posts like Trauma's. But sayin the game justifies any action is simple-minded and ignorant too. A criminal should be judged by his crime and his personal situation and his environment, and that's exactly why i was talkin about adequate punishment, adequate meaning considering all aspects there are to a crime. "It's the streets/game, so u gotta have luv for it" is definitely too simple cuz it's quite close to servin as an excuse for doin anything
btw, going from all i know i agree with ur second post
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anyone wishing death or jail on another a man who never committed a crime against you or someone you know personally is on some bullsh*t for real.
FREE TRAY DEEEE!!!
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god i knew this was going to start again...
i said this last time...
1 ) tray deee has already served one or more lengthy prison terms. they -are not- going to go easy on him. plus i believe he still on parole.. parole violation + a new sentence for this new crime... ouch! whichever way = habitual criminal!
2 ) you dont know what the hell he did.. for all you know it was a murder, or something you would find utterly repulsive.
3) people screaming 'free tray deee' under these circumstances look like idiots!
YES its a damn shame it looks like he's going to jail, YES its a shame he cant provide for his fam... but theres 10s of 1000s of people in the same situation and you dont give a fuck about them. all you want its music, you're being selfish and ignorant to the fact that the man has obviously done a crime, obviously hadn't learnt from his proper experiences, and obviously glorified crime in his music... yeah you can call him 'tha realest' now.. but it doesnt mean he gets a pass from the legal system! unless he's got johnny cochran on his bench...
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I'm a firm believer in an eye for an eye so despite the fact that I thoroughly enjoy his music......... Death penalty.
Death penalty? Is you crazy? I agree that since doing a crime the man should do his time in jail, but death penalty? Fuck that. Nobody should get the death penalty. You give that to a murderer, then you're a murderer yourself. And you ain't any better than him then.
Believe what you want, it's all opinions. An eye for an eye. If Tray Dee took a life his life should be taken.
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in the civilised world the death sentance is never right, its a juvenile, immature response.
secondly.. if he was up for murder i'm sure we'd already know about it.
quit creating rumours!
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I'm a firm believer in an eye for an eye so despite the fact that I thoroughly enjoy his music......... Death penalty.
Death penalty? Is you crazy? I agree that since doing a crime the man should do his time in jail, but death penalty? Fuck that. Nobody should get the death penalty. You give that to a murderer, then you're a murderer yourself. And you ain't any better than him then.
Too bad this shit had to happen to Tray Deee though. No more rhymes from him I guess... I know he should be in jail for doing a crime, and I agree to that, but still it saddens me it had to be him.
My thoughts exactly...
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in the civilised world the death sentance is never right, its a juvenile, immature response.
Disagree. So he should be allowed to suck tax dollars away from hard-working people?
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in the civilised world the death sentance is never right, its a juvenile, immature response.
Disagree. So he should be allowed to suck tax dollars away from hard-working people?
shut up about it here, and take your ignorance to TOT.
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lol,fuck death penalties,thats some straight bullshit,u dont get that type of shit for stealing shit
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in the civilised world the death sentance is never right, its a juvenile, immature response.
Disagree. So he should be allowed to suck tax dollars away from hard-working people?
it costs much more money for a criminal to be sentanced to death row than to life in prison... if you tally up all the costs for a defender, his numerous appeals that can keep him on death row for dozens of years while tieing up the courts, and other bullshit
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I had to do an essay on Capital Punishment for a course I took and I must say that there is not enough substantial evidence to suggest that the death penalty is a successful deterrant of murder, at least from what I researched. Unfortunately, I completed this essay quite a long time ago so I can't give any figures but I'm sure I could find some to back up my claim. I've personally never believed in it as I feel that the people (not all, but certainly some) who commit crimes such as murder have already accepted their fates and would rather die than spend the rest of their lives in jail. I agree with 'Seer here: the death penalty is not only juvenile but in many cases it is not a satisfactory punishment. The people who commit such horrific crimes don't deserve to escape from the pain and anguish they have caused others, and should be forced to live with this for the rest of their lives.
As for the people saying ''Free Tray Deee'', I can only ask ''why''? I'm a fan like everybody else here but why do you people want to see him freed so badly? Because he's a nice person? Or simply because you want to hear some of his music? Why should Tray Deee be allowed to walk away from a crime from he was involved in just to satisfy those who want to hear some new tracks by him? Its not even that you want to see him freed because he is innocent, its because some of you feel he should get away with what he did because he is an entertainer. That is some of the most ignorant justification I've ever heard.
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put it like thiis - most if not all rapper has been involved with criminal activities in some way or another. Do you hope they all get caught too??? When you listen to E-40 or Yukmouth talking about dope slanging or violenet activities do you hope that they slip up or are in the wrong place and the wrong time and are sentenced to major time in jail??? Many rappers are doing it, Tray Dee was just one of the ones that got caught.
It's disgusting to me that you can listen to and appreciate the realness of a rapper like Tray Deee but as soon as he's facing time in jail y'all are hoping he gets locked up for good or some shi*t???
What the fucc is going on here???
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no you idiot people arent saying that all.
we're saying, if he did do the crime people shouldnt be expecting his freedom because he's a rapper.
it sounds like groupies would want him forgiven him even if he had killed someone. thats wrong!
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i already said shut up on the capital punishment issue, anymore and i'll lock this thread.
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I don't hope that Tray Deee gets locked up. However, I do think he deserves what he is facing. If anything, I would have hoped that as a successful rap artist who has featured on platinum albums and receives a lot of respect wouldn't have been stupid enough to do what Tray did. ''Don't do the crime, if you can't do the time''. I just don't believe that celebrities should assume being a star should place you above the law (although in some cases it would appear that certain celebs could get away with anything).
When I listen to the likes of Yuk, it doesn't mean that I agree with everything that he says. Listening to a Yukmouth album doesn't brainwash me into believing that everything that he discusses on record is correct or justifiable. I listen to his music for entertainment, and try not to take it so seriously.
Basically, if a rapper gets busted for gun possession or some shit like that, who's fault is that? It sure isn't mine. I would probably just be surprised that they could be so stupid. In fact, Mystikal and C-Murder's cases spring to mind...
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in the civilised world the death sentance is never right, its a juvenile, immature response.
Disagree. So he should be allowed to suck tax dollars away from hard-working people?
shut up about it here, and take your ignorance to TOT.
Shall do sir. *Salutes Overseer*
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As for the people saying ''Free Tray Deee'', I can only ask ''why''? I'm a fan like everybody else here but why do you people want to see him freed so badly? Because he's a nice person? Or simply because you want to hear some of his music? Why should Tray Deee be allowed to walk away from a crime from he was involved in just to satisfy those who want to hear some new tracks by him? Its not even that you want to see him freed because he is innocent, its because some of you feel he should get away with what he did because he is an entertainer. That is some of the most ignorant justification I've ever heard.
I can only speak for myself, but there is good reason to say "Free Tray Deee". Do you think the legal system is fair and serves justice? Do you think police officers are not involved in the same or worse crimes that they people they are arrest?
It's true that we don't know what the charges are and what Tray Deee is accused of doing and if he was guilty of killing an innocent person or something liek that maybe he should do hard time BUT I don't think he did kill an innocent person or anything like that. More than likely it was drug related or sometime of assault charge. As dude aboce said Tray Deee has already done hard time before. What type of job oppurtunities exist for someone like that? What choices do they have to provide income for their family once the records stop selling?
If Tray Deee was involved distributing and selling drugs or something related to that I don't really feel like anyone should wish a jail sentence on him. If he wasn't doing it someone else would of been. The way the system is set up, cops usually only go after the medium to little guys in terms of drug dealers while collecting major $$$ from the guys at the top. They just make the occasional arrest on the little guy so that the cops look like they care and are doing their job etc.
Alternatively if Tray Dee was involved with an assault it was probably on someone who is also gang related and knows what the fucc is going on. I hiighly doubt Tray Dee would have attacked someone without a good reason too.
Shiiiit, Tray could have even just been arrested for carrying a gun or some sh*t like that. We all know the jelousy and envy that exists in the world and I'm not gonna persecute a guy for carrying a weapon to protect himself wjen it's more than likelly that there are muthafuccas actively looking to rob or kill him if the opportunity arose.
All I'm saying is, the system is setup that almost anybody who is gang related can get arrested and sentenced to jail sentences whether or not the crimes occured or were worthy of punishment. The legal system has prove do be unfair and unjust on numerous occasions. I wish death or jail on no man. Particulary someone liek Tray Deee.
FREE TRAY DEEE!!!
oh and if police wanted to, the dude in your avatar could easily get locked up at anytime. We all know Yuk and a lot of rappers like him consume and possess large quantities of drugs, carry guns and other weapons, are affiliated with gang members and other criminals, etc. etc. all of which are illegal. However I certainly hope that Yuk doesn;t get locked for it and the same for anyone else like him....
that's all I have to say
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i already said shut up on the capital punishment issue, anymore and i'll lock this thread.
ok hitler ::) what are you trying to do? kill free thought? this is a message board made for discussion
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As for the people saying ''Free Tray Deee'', I can only ask ''why''? I'm a fan like everybody else here but why do you people want to see him freed so badly? Because he's a nice person? Or simply because you want to hear some of his music? Why should Tray Deee be allowed to walk away from a crime from he was involved in just to satisfy those who want to hear some new tracks by him? Its not even that you want to see him freed because he is innocent, its because some of you feel he should get away with what he did because he is an entertainer. That is some of the most ignorant justification I've ever heard.
I can only speak for myself, but there is good reason to say "Free Tray Deee". Do you think the legal system is fair and serves justice? Do you think police officers are not involved in the same or worse crimes that they people they are arrest?
It's true that we don't know what the charges are and what Tray Deee is accused of doing and if he was guilty of killing an innocent person or something liek that maybe he should do hard time BUT I don't think he did kill an innocent person or anything like that. More than likely it was drug related or sometime of assault charge. As dude aboce said Tray Deee has already done hard time before. What type of job oppurtunities exist for someone like that? What choices do they have to provide income for their family once the records stop selling?
If Tray Deee was involved distributing and selling drugs or something related to that I don't really feel like anyone should wish a jail sentence on him. If he wasn't doing it someone else would of been. The way the system is set up, cops usually only go after the medium to little guys in terms of drug dealers while collecting major $$$ from the guys at the top. They just make the occasional arrest on the little guy so that the cops look like they care and are doing their job etc.
Alternatively if Tray Dee was involved with an assault it was probably on someone who is also gang related and knows what the fucc is going on. I hiighly doubt Tray Dee would have attacked someone without a good reason too.
Shiiiit, Tray could have even just been arrested for carrying a gun or some sh*t like that. We all know the jelousy and envy that exists in the world and I'm not gonna persecute a guy for carrying a weapon to protect himself wjen it's more than likelly that there are muthafuccas actively looking to rob or kill him if the opportunity arose.
All I'm saying is, the system is setup that almost anybody who is gang related can get arrested and sentenced to jail sentences whether or not the crimes occured or were worthy of punishment. The legal system has prove do be unfair and unjust on numerous occasions. I wish death or jail on no man. Particulary someone liek Tray Deee.
FREE TRAY DEEE!!!
oh and if police wanted to, the dude in your avatar could easily get locked up at anytime. We all know Yuk and a lot of rappers like him consume and possess large quantities of drugs, carry guns and other weapons, are affiliated with gang members and other criminals, etc. etc. all of which are illegal. However I certainly hope that Yuk doesn;t get locked for it and the same for anyone else like him....
that's all I have to say
you dont even know what you're talking about. you're so fuckin ignorant. you dont even know what he did but yet you say free tray dee. i dont think you dont know him personally so why say "i dont think he would do something like that"
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goldeneyeoutlaw...STFU and quit trying to be smart..
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i already said shut up on the capital punishment issue, anymore and i'll lock this thread.
ok hitler ::) what are you trying to do? kill free thought? this is a message board made for discussion
how about u have a nice piece of stfu cake.
the thread is about tray deee, not capital punishment.
lincoln has already done 'the right thing' and made a thread in TOT.
and lastly you dont back chat me or you can have a nice piece of "gtfo" cake.
and damn 'goldeneyeoutlaw' what kinda shit are you taking?
now listen to this.
i asked Jwonder why tray deee caught his case on this board for all to see. because i said i wasnt happy with buying 'free tray deee' shirt when i dont know why he's being held. i explained that in my view its stupid to co-sign or support something you do not understand the details of. he respected (ish) my decision, but didnt give anything away.
are you really that much of a groupie to be screaming blindly "free tray deee" ?
You have NO IDEA what he did.. something that carries a possible 20 years in jail -must- be deep shit.. right?
and I must say again NO ONE here is wishing jail upon him. we're just saying that if the punishment fits the crime then so be it!
but we dont even know what the crime is.
i'm pretty sure there is a parole violation thrown in there, which is serious enough on its own. i've heard 3 seperate rumours all of which are bad enough to put him away for at least 5 years for each count + the violation. plus for all this known (and another rumour) this *may be* his 3rd strike, unfortunate.. but you'd think he'd be careful?
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Just checkin' in. Is he locked up yet? I mean, I don't want a motherfucker like that runnin' around on the streets! Shit might be dangerous.
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from the news believe they got him until trial. you'd assume so with all this "free tray deee" speak.. people saying his trial starts in 2 weeks.. so i expect we'll hear more.
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dude if u heard this guy on howard stern, how he had beat up like 500 people before and shit.. fuckin crazy. i wouldnt be surprised if like 25% or more of those beatdowns ended in murder too. sometimes it really amuses me why we would even listen to a gangster rapper. im sure some of the people that we listen to are ex-murderers/killers like tray dee which im 99.999% positive is one. hes done put in his work to gain his OG status.. . it just makes me wonder what makes it so acceptable about him that makes us want to listen to him. i understand that the environemnt plays a large influence on how one grows up, but now that hes fairly rich, he shouldnt be involving himself with this type of shit, endangering his freedom and shit. but yeah. dont get me wrong though, this is just shit i wonder, so the same story applies to me., i still listen to tracy davis.
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i already said shut up on the capital punishment issue, anymore and i'll lock this thread.
ok hitler ::) what are you trying to do? kill free thought? this is a message board made for discussion
how about u have a nice piece of stfu cake.
the thread is about tray deee, not capital punishment.
lincoln has already done 'the right thing' and made a thread in TOT.
and lastly you dont back chat me or you can have a nice piece of "gtfo" cake.
and damn 'goldeneyeoutlaw' what kinda shit are you taking?
now listen to this.
i asked Jwonder why tray deee caught his case on this board for all to see. because i said i wasnt happy with buying 'free tray deee' shirt when i dont know why he's being held. i explained that in my view its stupid to co-sign or support something you do not understand the details of. he respected (ish) my decision, but didnt give anything away.
are you really that much of a groupie to be screaming blindly "free tray deee" ?
You have NO IDEA what he did.. something that carries a possible 20 years in jail -must- be deep shit.. right?
and I must say again NO ONE here is wishing jail upon him. we're just saying that if the punishment fits the crime then so be it!
but we dont even know what the crime is.
i'm pretty sure there is a parole violation thrown in there, which is serious enough on its own. i've heard 3 seperate rumours all of which are bad enough to put him away for at least 5 years for each count + the violation. plus for all this known (and another rumour) this *may be* his 3rd strike, unfortunate.. but you'd think he'd be careful?
I said in my post that I don't know what the charges are and if they were something like killing an innocent person then Tray Deee DOES deserve to do hard time.
Y'all don't know waht the fuccin charges are either YET you are assuming the worst. YES I could be wrong and maybe his crimes are so horrible that jail is deserved and I would agree with that for some crimes (murder of innocent people, rape stc.). BUT You all could be wrong and the charges could be simple drug or gun pocession. No one knows.
Until we know otherwise, I'll give dude the benifit of the doubt and scream "FREE TRAY DEEE" all day if I want to....
sh*t ya'll are praticallly screaming "HANG TRAY DEEE"
so yeah. we are ALL a little stupid to be making assumptions given that we don't know the facts and we have different opinion. i respect y'alls opinions and I'd expect y'all to respect mine.
it's all good though. I wish everyone on here health, wealth and hapinesss and have no bad feeling towards y'all. I also wish the same health, wealth and hapiness to Tray Deee.
peace
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no we aren't assuming the worst.
we're sitting on the fence because we dont have facts!
if he appears innocent to me i'll scream 'free tray deee', put a banner up.. whatever.. if he isnt, he isnt.
he hasnt asked us to do anything. he hasnt proclaimed his innocence.
an example i used last time was.. ras kass the "free ras kass" campaign was to free him from priority NOT jail. he fully accepted, understood and made it clear he was in the wrong. he was on the run to sort his family situation out. we knew the details, we weren't co-signing something out of love for his music. now he's in jail, he's just doin his bid, theres no 'free ras' campaign anymore.
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This is the worst news for rap since 2Pac died. I wish Tray Deee the best of luck, and I hope he gets a smaller sentence. Free Tray Deee.
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Damn that's sum messed up news. He's kool peoples too.
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Hope he gets locked the fuck up ! And I hope he learns to not commit thoose stupid crimes again