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Title: 213 - The Hard Way -> Tracklist + Good Quality Cover
Post by: mauzip on July 03, 2004, 02:45:20 PM
(http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0002CHI8I.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg)

Somebody made a post about this on the WCRydaz forum. On amazon.de (http://www.amazon.de/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0002CHI8I/qid=1088891035/sr=1-16/ref=sr_1_8_16/028-4975776-3251708) there's a tracklist of the 213 album...

1.Intro
2.Twist Yo Body
3.Absolutely
4.Sassy Ways
5.Groupie Luv
6.Wait A Minute
7.Another Summer
8.213 The Gangsta Clicc
9.Ups & Downs
10.Gotta Find A Way
11.Joysticc
12.Rick James Interlude
13.Mary Jane
14.MLK
15.Whistle While U Hustle
16.Lil Girl
17.She Wasn't Feelin' Me
18.Give It Up
19.Never Love A Ho
20.Appreciation
21.So Fly
 
And according to Mr. Cynikal is MLK the same as Eastside LB.
Title: Re: 213 - The Hard Way -> Tracklist + Good Quality Cover
Post by: Don Seer on July 03, 2004, 03:01:46 PM
cool.. props :)
Title: Re: 213 - The Hard Way -> Tracklist + Good Quality Cover
Post by: Ras Kass' Toothpick on July 03, 2004, 03:04:55 PM
Too many tracks.
Title: Re: 213 - The Hard Way -> Tracklist + Good Quality Cover
Post by: Gotti......Xl on July 03, 2004, 03:16:13 PM
That shit suck's
Title: Re: 213 - The Hard Way -> Tracklist + Good Quality Cover
Post by: 2paclbc on July 03, 2004, 03:20:55 PM
tight
Title: Re: 213 - The Hard Way -> Tracklist + Good Quality Cover
Post by: Maestro Minded on July 03, 2004, 04:01:06 PM
i think that the tracklisting is fake.... "sassy ways" was released like ages ago...
Title: Re: 213 - The Hard Way -> Tracklist + Good Quality Cover
Post by: Bramsterdam (see ya) on July 03, 2004, 04:10:03 PM
no dolla dolla bill???      thats shitty..


props mauz
Title: Re: 213 - The Hard Way -> Tracklist + Good Quality Cover
Post by: Storm on July 03, 2004, 04:21:27 PM
fake or not, this album is gonna be dope. can't wait to get it.
Title: Re: 213 - The Hard Way -> Tracklist + Good Quality Cover
Post by: Nima - Dubcnn.com on July 03, 2004, 04:30:44 PM
i still think its hilarious how snoop is the only one to have both the hat and the briefcase lol.

yeah, unfortunately no dolla bill..

i duno the tracklisting looks pretty legit to me
Title: Re: 213 - The Hard Way -> Tracklist + Good Quality Cover
Post by: Jome on July 03, 2004, 05:05:27 PM
Amazon is notorious for putting up fake tracklists, often half a year before the album's due..
Look at their feet in the pic.. the "greenroom" use is a little too obvious.. lol
Title: Re: 213 - The Hard Way -> Tracklist + Good Quality Cover
Post by: mauzip on July 03, 2004, 05:40:48 PM
Amazon is notorious for putting up fake tracklists, often half a year before the album's due..
Look at their feet in the pic.. the "greenroom" use is a little too obvious.. lol

You actually think a site like amazon.com puts up fake tracklists? ::)  :-\ No, they don't. Jome, sites like amazon.com and cduniverse.com get tracklists from record companies or distribution companies and a lot of times those tracklists aren't final tracklists. That, Jome, are what we call advance tracklists :)
Title: Re: 213 - The Hard Way -> Tracklist + Good Quality Cover
Post by: Tha Psycho Hustla on July 03, 2004, 05:44:56 PM
No Featurings?Tha Covah Iz Kinda Shitty I Think 4 Album Like Dat They Should Make A Betta Covah
I Think It`s Gon`B Dope 8)
Title: Re: 213 - The Hard Way -> Tracklist + Good Quality Cover
Post by: We Fly High on July 03, 2004, 06:08:38 PM
yeah i dunno about reusing the sassy ways track, and So fly was just a song over the recent monica beat. i dont think they would be so quick to jack a beat, and use it on their own album.
Title: Re: 213 - The Hard Way -> Tracklist + Good Quality Cover
Post by: Eddie G. on July 03, 2004, 06:36:47 PM
I think the tracklisting is tite besides the re-using of "Yo Sassy Ways" and "So Fly," too bad they didn't have more songs to use so we could hear more ;D
Title: Re: 213 - The Hard Way -> Tracklist + Good Quality Cover
Post by: Jome on July 03, 2004, 06:46:49 PM
You actually think a site like amazon.com puts up fake tracklists? ::)  :-\ No, they don't. Jome, sites like amazon.com and cduniverse.com get tracklists from record companies or distribution companies and a lot of times those tracklists aren't final tracklists. That, Jome, are what we call advance tracklists :)

Yeah, I guess that's why Amazon missed on ALL 19 tracks they put up on the Banks tracklist, except the 2 singles already out.
That's why Amazon missed pretty bad on Cassidy's album, 50 Cent's album, and also on Jadakiss "Kiss of death" before correcting it after it's been ripped.
Except 50, that's just the recent examples, they do it all the time, can't bother to find more examples.

CDuniverse & RNS usually got a better clue than Amazon or XXL/The Source.
Ohh, and "Yo Sassy Ways" and "So Fly" sounds real.. yeah right. lol



Title: Re: 213 - The Hard Way -> Tracklist + Good Quality Cover
Post by: mauzip on July 03, 2004, 06:52:13 PM
You actually think a site like amazon.com puts up fake tracklists? ::)  :-\ No, they don't. Jome, sites like amazon.com and cduniverse.com get tracklists from record companies or distribution companies and a lot of times those tracklists aren't final tracklists. That, Jome, are what we call advance tracklists :)

Yeah, I guess that's why Amazon missed on ALL 19 tracks they put up on the Banks tracklist, except the 2 singles already out.
That's why Amazon missed pretty bad on Cassidy's album, 50 Cent's album, and also on Jadakiss "Kiss of death" before correcting it after it's been ripped.
Except 50, that's just the recent examples, they do it all the time, can't bother to find more examples.

CDuniverse & RNS usually got a better clue than Amazon or XXL/The Source.
Ohh, and "Yo Sassy Ways" and "So Fly" sounds real.. yeah right. lol

That's to weed out leaks. For example, almost every advance tracklist of Cash Money albums in the last 2 years are completely different than the final tracklist. I actually have the advance of Project English and none of the songs are on the retail version.

Discussion closed.
Title: Re: 213 - The Hard Way -> Tracklist + Good Quality Cover
Post by: Jome on July 03, 2004, 07:00:46 PM
That's to weed out leaks. For example, almost every advance tracklist of Cash Money albums in the last 2 years are completely different than the final tracklist. I actually have the advance of Project English and none of the songs are on the retail version.

Discussion closed.

Aka fake tracklist.
I don't care if the label makes it, or some fan moron make it.
Amazon will put any tracklist they see on the net, as opposed to CDUniverse and more reliable sites.

Example, Amazon had this up until recently:

1. Intro
2. Start of An Era
3. Time's Up (Feat. Eminem)
4. Hungry
5. Pressure
6. Banger
7. Showtime (Feat. Dr. Dre, Eminem & 50 Cent)
8. Warrior
9. Trouble
10. Southside (Feat. 50 Cent & Tony Yayo)
11. On Fire
12. Ride For You (Feat. Alicia Keys)
13. Tha Anthem
14. Lay Low (Feat. Game & Young Buck)
15. Money In The Bank
16. Unspoken Wordz
17. Liars (Feat. 50 Cent)
Bonus Track
18. Smile (Feat. 50 Cent)
19. You (Feat. 50 Cent)

Real tracklist:

1.    "Ain't No Click" (feat. Tony Yayo)
2.    "Playboy"
3.    "Warrior"
4.    "On Fire"
5.    "I Get High" (feat. Snoop Dogg/50 Cent)
6.    "I'm So Fly" (feat. Timbaland)
7.    "Work Magic" (feat. Young Buck)
8.    "If You So Gangsta"
9.    "Warrior Pt. 2" (feat. Nate Dogg/50 Cent/Eminem)
10.    "Karma"
11.    "When The Chips Are Down" (feat. Game, The)
12.    "Til The End"
13.    "Die One Day"
14.    "South Side Story"

Conclusion: Amazon puts up farfetched tracklist for the X'th time, Amazon = NOT Reliable.

Title: Re: 213 - The Hard Way -> Tracklist + Good Quality Cover
Post by: mauzip on July 03, 2004, 07:03:41 PM
You don't get my point. The tracks in those "fake" tracklists as you like to call them are actually recorded and the tracklist is sent in by the record company or whatever does that. Conclusion: I am right (again).
Title: Re: 213 - The Hard Way -> Tracklist + Good Quality Cover
Post by: Jome on July 03, 2004, 07:09:09 PM
You don't get my point. The tracks in those "fake" tracklists as you like to call them are actually recorded and the tracklist is sent in by the record company or whatever does that. Conclusion: I am right (again).

No.
They're fan-made.
They pop up on some board, and suddenly Amazon puts it up.
There's NO WAY Dre made 3 tracks for Banks + Alicia Keys collabo + 2 Eminem tracks + Em/50/Dre track and then they ALL get scrapped.
It's fantasy, not advances.

Try again.
Amazon = Puts up tracklists on a regular basis.

Title: Re: 213 - The Hard Way -> Tracklist + Good Quality Cover
Post by: mauzip on July 03, 2004, 07:16:17 PM
LOL I already proved my point and you still say I'm not right ::)

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Title: Re: 213 - The Hard Way -> Tracklist + Good Quality Cover
Post by: Jome on July 03, 2004, 08:17:05 PM
LOL I already proved my point and you still say I'm not right ::)

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I guess you don't get the difference between fake tracklistings, and advance tracklistings.
I could make up a tracklist right now, and call it "the advance", but would it be the advance..?
No.

Peep this:
Fake
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Advance
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See the difference.. ??
I even put it in familiar Orange to make it easier..  :D

Title: Re: 213 - The Hard Way -> Tracklist + Good Quality Cover
Post by: Danté Williams on July 03, 2004, 08:48:46 PM
Sounds strange.

No "Dolla dolla bill". "Sassy ways" was released almost 3 years ago. "I'm fly" is the kind of track no one would have said would end in the final album. And what about "LB is a muthafucka"?
Title: Re: 213 - The Hard Way -> Tracklist + Good Quality Cover
Post by: R-Tistic on July 03, 2004, 08:53:43 PM
This is a hard azz cover. I realize there are some people who will never be satisfied with the album, so they will never like any cover they use either.
Title: Re: 213 - The Hard Way -> Tracklist + Good Quality Cover
Post by: Eddie G. on July 03, 2004, 10:35:27 PM
Sounds strange.

No "Dolla dolla bill". "Sassy ways" was released almost 3 years ago. "I'm fly" is the kind of track no one would have said would end in the final album. And what about "LB is a muthafucka"?
Damn, I forgot about LB is a Muthafucka, that better make the final cut >:(
Title: Re: 213 - The Hard Way -> Tracklist + Good Quality Cover
Post by: Sven on July 04, 2004, 03:33:55 AM
I'm sorry Jome. This tracklist matches with the review of the advance (or retail) given to XXL I guess... well at least 90% cause I can't find "My Dirty Hoe"on there...

http://www.wcrydaz.com/media/newsimages/213-review.jpg

props tp wcrydaz

Tight tracklist, nice review = dope album! Hopefully...
Title: Re: 213 - The Hard Way -> Tracklist + Good Quality Cover
Post by: Bigg Baller Loc on July 04, 2004, 03:47:23 AM
Toon's cover is better
Title: Re: 213 - The Hard Way -> Tracklist + Good Quality Cover
Post by: ··: O.G Kody™ :·· on July 04, 2004, 04:09:07 AM
That shit suck's

How can you say that? Have you heard it?
Title: Re: 213 - The Hard Way -> Tracklist + Good Quality Cover
Post by: ExZit on July 04, 2004, 04:12:12 AM
this album might be really good...
Title: Re: 213 - The Hard Way -> Tracklist + Good Quality Cover
Post by: Danté Williams on July 04, 2004, 04:24:09 AM
"Twist yo body" - Hi-Tek
"She wasn't feelin me" - Josef
"Groupie Luv" - DJ Pooh
"Never love a ho" - Battlecat
"My dirty ho" - J-Hen
"Joystick" - Terrace Martin
"Another summer" - Kanye West
"Mary Jane" - Quazi
"Wait a minute (Lonely girl)" - Nottz



Don't look like a good collection of producers to me. Where's the Warren Gs, Dres, Quiks, Damizzas, Fredwrecks...where the good producers is at (aside from Battlecat) ?
Title: Re: 213 - The Hard Way -> Tracklist + Good Quality Cover
Post by: Sven on July 04, 2004, 05:27:23 AM
Welll...

Hi-Tek did a very good jon on the allstars album, Pooh is classic, Battlecat is funky, Kanye always comes with nice beats and I thinks he fits in perfect. I have not heard of the others before... so no need to complain cause there's still 10 more tracks!
Title: Re: 213 - The Hard Way -> Tracklist + Good Quality Cover
Post by: CRAFTY on July 04, 2004, 05:41:25 AM
this album might be really good...
Title: Re: 213 - The Hard Way -> Tracklist + Good Quality Cover
Post by: Nima - Dubcnn.com on July 04, 2004, 06:00:58 AM
Josef produced Pimp Slapp'd and Bacc on The Blocc

Terace is a very young up andcoming prducer whos been working wit Battlecat, Tha Chill and Josef

nima
Title: Re: 213 - The Hard Way -> Tracklist + Good Quality Cover
Post by: Gangstauu on July 04, 2004, 06:10:28 AM
hopefully this aint true

The best track from the advance "I Need A Bitch" aint even on it!! :'(
Title: Re: 213 - The Hard Way -> Tracklist + Good Quality Cover
Post by: Danté Williams on July 04, 2004, 06:22:14 AM
Welll...

Hi-Tek did a very good jon on the allstars album, Pooh is classic, Battlecat is funky, Kanye always comes with nice beats and I thinks he fits in perfect. I have not heard of the others before... so no need to complain cause there's still 10 more tracks!
Josef produced Pimp Slapp'd and Bacc on The Blocc

Terace is a very young up andcoming prducer whos been working wit Battlecat, Tha Chill and Josef

nima

Yeah, I'm not saying they are bad producers, but I would expect top notch producers for top notch artists and a 10+ years anticipated project. Anyway, don't pay me much attention, I'm still pissed Warren aint producing.
Title: Re: 213 - The Hard Way -> Tracklist + Good Quality Cover
Post by: Timmeeeehh on July 04, 2004, 07:44:55 AM
I don't trust the tracklist, but everything I heard yet from 213 sounded really dope...
So when it's released, I'll check it out for sure.... Ehm... released, yeah, somebody knows when it's gonna be released?
Title: Re: 213 - The Hard Way -> Tracklist + Good Quality Cover
Post by: Real American on July 04, 2004, 08:49:51 AM
The album cover sucks. They should have made an old school album cover with them wearing khakis and chucks and sitting on a porch in the ghetto or something. That would have been tight.
Title: Re: 213 - The Hard Way -> Tracklist + Good Quality Cover
Post by: .:Hercy Buggz:. on July 04, 2004, 08:53:39 AM
Quote
1.Intro
2.Twist Yo Body
3.Absolutely
4.Sassy Ways
5.Groupie Luv
6.Wait A Minute
7.Another Summer
8.213 The Gangsta Clicc
9.Ups & Downs
10.Gotta Find A Way
11.Joysticc
12.Rick James Interlude
13.Mary Jane
14.MLK
15.Whistle While U Hustle
16.Lil Girl
17.She Wasn't Feelin' Me
18.Give It Up
19.Never Love A Ho
20.Appreciation
21.So Fly
 

Hopefully So Fly,Sassy Ways , Find a Way wont be on there  and i think it will be a dope album since we heard some of the tracks


Never Love A Ho  (is also known as Fallin in Love Again)
Wait A Minute (is also known as Lonely Girl and this shit is tight)
MlK (also Known as Eastside LB)
Groupie Luv

I hope Dolla Bill will make the final cut though this shit is dope



Title: Re: 213 - The Hard Way -> Tracklist + Good Quality Cover
Post by: .:Hercy Buggz:. on July 04, 2004, 08:54:42 AM
The album cover sucks. They should have made an old school album cover with them wearing khakis and chucks and sitting on a porch in the ghetto or something. That would have been tight.

what if they dont feel like that anymore
Title: Re: 213 - The Hard Way -> Tracklist + Good Quality Cover
Post by: mauzip on July 04, 2004, 10:36:43 AM
hopefully this aint true

The best track from the advance "I Need A Bitch" aint even on it!! :'(

Hey that leaves room for other songs we wouldn't hear otherwise ;) :)
Title: Re: 213 - The Hard Way -> Tracklist + Good Quality Cover
Post by: Eddie G. on July 04, 2004, 10:58:23 AM
"Twist yo body" - Hi-Tek
"She wasn't feelin me" - Josef
"Groupie Luv" - DJ Pooh
"Never love a ho" - Battlecat
"My dirty ho" - J-Hen
"Joystick" - Terrace Martin
"Another summer" - Kanye West
"Mary Jane" - Quazi
"Wait a minute (Lonely girl)" - Nottz



Don't look like a good collection of producers to me. Where's the Warren Gs, Dres, Quiks, Damizzas, Fredwrecks...where the good producers is at (aside from Battlecat) ?
I was thinking the same thing, and these are the tracks that they were talking about, meaning that these are the standout tracks on the album.  If there was a Dre or Quik beat, they would have talked about it in the review.