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Joe Budden Catches Heat from Black Americans for Life
The organization Black Americans for Life is urging blacks to protest BMG Entertainment, the parent group of Usher's record label, LaFace, over the lyrics on an Usher remix by rapper Joe Budden that advocate violence against pregnant women. On the remix of "Confessions," Budden rhymes, "Pray that she abort that/ If she's talkin' bout keepin' it/ One hit to the stomach/ She's leakin' it." The group is also requesting that the remix be pulled immediately.
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Alternative article:
Women’s Groups Protest Joe Budden, He Responds
An underground mixtape remix to Usher's hit song "Confessions" has come under fire by a pro-life group, due to some controversial lines by rapper Joe Budden.
Black Americans for Life, an outreach of the National Right to Life Committee which represents 3000 chapters in all 50 states and the District of Columbia , took issue with the line: "Pray that she abort that if she's talkin' 'bout keepin' it/One hit to the stomach, she's leakin' it."
They charge that the song has started to get airplay on some radio stations.
The mixtape version is Budden's spin on thoughts that might course through a man's mind when he finds out he is powerless when it comes to the question of abortion.
"Its some mixtape s**t that didn't even travel too far," Budden told AllHipHop.com. "Everybody's heard the original Usher song and I'm just saying what a guy's mindstate is when he's put in that situation. Like it or not, that's a guy's mind state. That's how it can be when you are put in a powerless situation."
The director for Black Americans for Life said the organization is urging African-Americans to call radio stations that might air the song and request that it be pulled from play lists.
"These lyrics are demeaning and outright violent toward both women and unborn children," said Day Gardner, director of Black Americans for Life. "It is appalling to suggest that a man attack a woman to cause the death of her unborn child."
Another organization, Care Net, a network of 750 crisis pregnancy centers, joined in and launched a grass roots campaign today (July 1) calling on Island/Def Jam records and radio stations to pull their support of the song as well.
"Are they concerned that one in three African American pregnancies end in abortion, that over 1,200 black children die every day, and an estimated 70 percent of abortion providers are in minority neighborhoods?" asked Star Parker, a member of Care Net's board of directors. "Abortion in the black community has become a form of genocide."
In light of the political climate, Budden questioned the motives of his detractors.
"Its real funny how these people grab what they want to grab," he charged. "The lyrics don't support beating on women. I don't even say that I am beating on women."
Budden himself went through a stormy two-year relationship with the mother of his child and ironically, Budden was a victim of domestic violence when his ex-girlfriend stabbed him, nearly killing him.
Though he never pressed charges, he temporarily stayed with her and they have a child together, Joe Jr.
""When you get somebody pregnant, you can make suggestions, but the bottom line is they [women] have the end say-so," Budden said. "As a guy, you wonder 'What can I do to take that power away?' As negative as it is, that's what comes to mind. That still doesn't make [violence against women] alright and I don't support that. In Hip-Hop, we talk about reality and what is the truth and that is the truth. I might stir up a lot of confusion, but if you don't like it, turn it off."
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I don't think music should be censored AT ALL. But, he's really an idiot for saying something like that, it just shows the world how much of an asshole he really is. I've never liked that piece of shit, besides the fact that he can't rap, he's a moron.
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I don't think music should be censored AT ALL. But, he's really an idiot for saying something like that, it just shows the world how much of an asshole he really is. I've never liked that piece of shit, besides the fact that he can't rap, he's a moron.
lol interesting....
so what do you really feel about him?
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I don't think music should be censored AT ALL. But, he's really an idiot for saying something like that, it just shows the world how much of an asshole he really is. I've never liked that piece of shit, besides the fact that he can't rap, he's a moron.
Couldnt Have Said It Better Myself
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"Pray that she abort that/ If she's talkin' bout keepin' it/ One hit to the stomach/ She's leakin' it."
thats a good punchline IMO
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I don't think music should be censored AT ALL. But, he's really an idiot for saying something like that, it just shows the world how much of an asshole he really is. I've never liked that piece of shit, besides the fact that he can't rap, he's a moron.
Co-sign
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But, he's really an idiot for saying something like that, it just shows the world how much of an asshole he really is. I've never liked that piece of shit, besides the fact that he can't rap, he's a moron.
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"Pray that she abort that/ If she's talkin' bout keepin' it/ One hit to the stomach/ She's leakin' it."
thats a good punchline IMO
It's a good punchline - if you are a wifebeater and babykiller.
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"Pray that she abort that/ If she's talkin' bout keepin' it/ One hit to the stomach/ She's leakin' it."
thats a good punchline IMO
It's a good punchline - if you are a wifebeater and babykiller.
LMAO
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"Pray that she abort that/ If she's talkin' bout keepin' it/ One hit to the stomach/ She's leakin' it."
thats a good punchline IMO
It's a good punchline - if you are a wifebeater and babykiller.
LMAO
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"Pray that she abort that/ If she's talkin' bout keepin' it/ One hit to the stomach/ She's leakin' it."
thats a good punchline IMO
It's a good punchline - if you are a wifebeater and babykiller.
LMAO
true
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hes an idiot
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Why has no one whent mad at Brotha Lynch?
Some of you must have heard Return Of Da Baby Killa...
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"What I need to do is kick the bitch in the tummy"
Ice Cube said this 14 years ago and no one said anything then.
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Maybe Joe is talkin some shit that he has done...Game should whoop his ass...
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"What I need to do is kick the bitch in the tummy"
Ice Cube said this 14 years ago and no one said anything then.
So that makes it OK to say/do it today.. ?
Half this board was 2-3 years back then and yourself was 4, you mad because no one posted it up on a non-existant message board on the non-existing internet.. ?
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"What I need to do is kick the bitch in the tummy"
Ice Cube said this 14 years ago and no one said anything then.
So that makes it OK to say/do it today.. ?
Half this board was 2-3 years back then and yourself was 4, you mad because no one posted it up on a non-existant message board on the non-existing internet.. ?
No, I never justified it. I just found it strange this is causing controversy with an organization and it didn't 14 years ago. I don't see how I'm "mad".
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No, I never justified it. I just found it strange this is causing controversy with an organization and it didn't 14 years ago.
The real question is, how much did you know about rap/hiphop and black rights organizations when you were 4 years old..
The only thing I remember from being 4-9 years, is how to beat those other kids in kindergarden, much less what was in the news..
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What an Ass this guy is. He'll end up dead, that's the only thing that keeps me satisfied about idiots like this. Guys like him are the reason the avg. life expectancy for a black man is 35. I blame Usher, the record label, Budden, and the distributor. If it was a job, everybody'd lose theirs, but since they just do records, they can say and promote whatever they want. And THEN the sick fuck has the balls to try and excuse it, no remorse, he doesn't care what he said. Usher needs to speak out and distance himself from this shit, this is rediculous. Rap is a fucking joke. It's NOT o.k. to act like you're going to make a woman miscarriage. This guy represents the dredges of society. This is what we want our kids to hear? Assholes.
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What an Ass this guy is. He'll end up dead, that's the only thing that keeps me satisfied about idiots like this. Guys like him are the reason the avg. life expectancy for a black man is 35. I blame Usher, the record label, Budden, and the distributor. If it was a job, everybody'd lose theirs, but since they just do records, they can say and promote whatever they want. And THEN the sick fuck has the balls to try and excuse it, no remorse, he doesn't care what he said. Usher needs to speak out and distance himself from this shit, this is rediculous. Rap is a fucking joke. It's NOT o.k. to act like you're going to make a woman miscarriage. This guy represents the dredges of society. This is what we want our kids to hear? Assholes.
WTF did Usher do you moron
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yet again trauma speaks without knowing the facts properly.. :D
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As noted above
''Cause all I saw was Ice Cube in court
Paying a gang on child support
Then I thought deep about giving up the money
What I need to do is kick the bitch in the tummy'' Cube
This shit aint new rappers have been busting these type of lyrics for years.
Controversy sells even more records. Proven again and again over the years.
''You dont like it dont listen to it'' NWA
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What an Ass this guy is. He'll end up dead, that's the only thing that keeps me satisfied about idiots like this. Guys like him are the reason the avg. life expectancy for a black man is 35. I blame Usher, the record label, Budden, and the distributor. If it was a job, everybody'd lose theirs, but since they just do records, they can say and promote whatever they want. And THEN the sick fuck has the balls to try and excuse it, no remorse, he doesn't care what he said. Usher needs to speak out and distance himself from this shit, this is rediculous. Rap is a fucking joke. It's NOT o.k. to act like you're going to make a woman miscarriage. This guy represents the dredges of society. This is what we want our kids to hear? Assholes.
WTF did Usher do you moron
Since it's on Usher's song it would be smart for him to publicly condemn what Budden said, and request Budden be removed from the remix. This way Usher maintain's a positive image in the mainstream, which is very important to his career.
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Maybe Joe is talkin some shit that he has done...Game should whoop his ass...
damn, you are a true stan.
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I mean:
Guys like him are the reason the avg. life expectancy for a black man is 35. I blame Usher.
Usher didn't do shit and if you would've read the fucking article you would've known that.
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damn, people are always looking for something to complain about...whiners....
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It is from a mixtape remix, since when does the record label deal with mixtape shit & he cant be removed from it either.
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yet again trauma speaks without knowing the facts properly.. :D
I know the facts. It's Usher's song. Period. He's responsible, as well.
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I mean:
Guys like him are the reason the avg. life expectancy for a black man is 35. I blame Usher.
Usher didn't do shit and if you would've read the fucking article you would've known that.
ITS USHER'S SONG. HE NEEDS TO SAY SOMETHING.
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It is from a mixtape remix, since when does the record label deal with mixtape shit & he cant be removed from it either.
Then can't they issue a statement or something? They don't give a fuck, and I hear Usher on it, so it's Usher's deal as well. Fuck both of them.
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First off if anywun has a clue...Usher dont got a baby momma it wuz bullshyt 2nd...if u think Joe budden is a baby killer after that shyt he weunt thru wit his grl and havin a kid ur a dumb ass jus like those people protesting who dont catch the meaning of the song...a mans minstate...which is true i kno alot of people who been thru that and they told me thats pretty much how you think if your scared about it....and westside that dont like Joe and his lyrics must be a Game fane since hes from LA....must be nice to kno the guy tryna hold it down for the west is getting his ass kicked by a nigga who only sold 500k albums. damn shame.
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It's all unnecessary talk about this. He was talking about what goes through a guys mind when it happens, he wasn't endorsing it. If that shit happened to me, I wouldn't do it, but I know it'd cross my mind atleast once.