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Canadafreepress.com -- Politically Incorrect
Poll: over 40% of Canadian teens think America is "evil"
by Arthur Weinreb, Associate Editor, Canada Free Press
June 30, 2004
Can West News Services, owners of several Canadian newspapers including the National Post as well as the Global Television Network commissioned a series of polls to determine how young people feel about the issues that were facing the country’s voters. Dubbed "Youth Vote 2004", the polls, sponsored by the Dominion Institute and Navigator Ltd. were taken with a view to getting more young people involved in the political process.
In one telephone poll of teens between the ages of 14 and 18, over 40 per cent of the respondents described the United States as being "evil". That number rose to 64 per cent for French Canadian youth.
This being Canada, the amount of anti-Americanism that was found is not surprising. What is significant is the high number of teens who used the word "evil" to describe our southern neighbour. As Misty Harris pointed out in her column in the Saskatoon Star Phoenix, evil is usually associated with serial killers and "kids who tear the legs off baby spiders." These teens appear to equate George W. Bush and Americans with Osama bin Laden and Hitler, although it is unknown if the teens polled would describe the latter two as being evil. Whether someone who orders planes to be flown into heavily populated buildings would fit that description would make a good subject for a future poll.
The Liberal government came into power in 1993 gushing anti-Americanism. Former Prime Minister Jean Chrétien’s communications director, Francoise Ducros, made headlines when she referred to President Bush as a moron. Liberal MP Carolyn Parrish was picked up on a boom microphone saying, "Damn Americans — I hate those bastards". Not only did Parrish not apologize for her remarks, but she later appeared on a television show hosted by alleged comedian Mike Bullard and laughed about the incident. Parrish played to the anti-Americanism of the youthful studio audience by saying that she couldn’t guarantee that she wouldn’t do it again.
Not only did then Prime Minister Jean Chrétien not take any action against his staff or caucus members, he himself engaged in America-bashing. The depth of his anti-Americanism surfaced shortly after the 9/11 attacks when he blamed the arrogance and greed of the West (read the United States) for those attacks.
When Paul Martin assumed office last December, the childish cheap shots ended but, if anything, anti-Americanism became stronger.
Anti-Americanism played a prominent role in the election strategy of the Liberals. Paul Martin portrayed himself as the saviour of Canadian medicare while saying that if Stephen Harper and the Conservative Party of Canada came to power they would introduce "American-style" health care. Martin was happy to take credit for cutting taxes and eliminating the deficit during the 1990s when he was Minister of Finance, but he referred to tax cuts included in the Conservative Party platform as being "American-style tax cuts". Canadians who favour lower taxes or the private delivery of health care services or smaller governments or anything similar to what is found in the United States were called "un-Canadian" by Paul Martin.
It is therefore not surprising that a high percentage of Canadian youth think that the United States is evil. Nor is it surprising that this feeling is more pronounced in Quebec where Bloc Quebecois leader Gilles Duceppe said that he would rather live under the United Nations than the Stars and Stripes. The left wing Canadian political parties, aided by their supporters in the elite media don’t seem to be able to say anything positive about Canada without denigrating the United States in the process.
The poll results reflect that anti-Americanism will be solidly entrenched in future generations of Canadians. As well as listening to the propaganda espoused by their political leaders and the media, these kids have no experience with what constitutes real evil. They live in a country that much like pre-9/11 America, thinks that terrorist attacks are something that happens in other countries. And as the World War II veterans slowly die off, they have no conviction of the evil that the allies risked their lives to defeat.
With anti-Americanism playing such a prominent role in this past election campaign, it is no wonder that the United States was viewed in such a negative light.
Arthur Weinreb, a lawyer and author, is Associate Editor Canadafreepress.com. He can be reached at: aweinreb@interlog.com
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blame canada, blame canada....
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last time checked i could give a shit about canada, and the people.
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I knew that in Canada people were indoctrinated with left wing ideology, but this is insane.
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Canadians proved in the last election that they aren't the brightest people.
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Canadians proved in the last election that they aren't the brightest people.
>:(
Not our fault we care more about hockey than Politics.
Well, at least I didn't vote in this thing. I don't think americans are evil =/. Unlike most dumbass Canadians we have here in Surrey, who believe americans are evil and stupid.
I like americans, especially the females :D. I go to washington state about a dozen times in the summer and I got family in New York, California and Texas. They're not evil!
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99% of Americans think Muslims are evil lol, what's the point.
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99% of Americans think Muslims are evil lol, what's the point.
Really, this smilie is just made for you!
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we're having that one!
* adds it to the collection *
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99% of Americans think Muslims are evil lol, what's the point.
Really, this smilie is just made for you!
(http://www.wutangcorp.com/images/smilies/loser.gif)
the other american patriots (I know you're dutch, which makes it even weirder) at least TRY to argue my points. what's the deal with pure insulting.
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99% of Americans think Muslims are evil lol, what's the point.
Do you really expect me to bring up arguments why I posted that smilie? ::)
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Oh yeah... I also wanna say this:
I'm not an "American partriot". I'm just sick and tired of people who generalize Americans and you are one of them. It's just not right. Just because you don't like the American foreign politics doesn't mean you have to dislike Americans. Most of the people of your kind have never even met an American and have never even been to America. You don't know shit about America and Americans. Americans are the kindest and most generous people I have met in my life.
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claiming Im anti-American PEOPLE is like claiming Walker is anti-Canadian people.
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claiming Im anti-American PEOPLE is like claiming Walker is anti-Canadian people.
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99% of Americans think Muslims are evil lol, what's the point.
Good point.
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on most telephone polls i'm a black lady with 14 children so what's the point?
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on most telephone polls i'm a black lady with 14 children so what's the point?
on most telephone polls im a cleptomaniac lol. one time they called me about ice cream an i was like why buy ice cream when you could just steal it lol. an they were like excuse me sir. i was like i steal it i dont pay an they were like ummm you have a good day sir *hangs up*
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on most telephone polls i'm a black lady with 14 children so what's the point?
on most telephone polls im a cleptomaniac lol. one time they called me about ice cream an i was like why buy ice cream when you could just steal it lol. an they were like excuse me sir. i was like i steal it i dont pay an they were like ummm you have a good day sir *hangs up*
i usually have to go because i have to beat on Jerome
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To be honest, I don't hate America as much as people might think, rather I dislike many of it's policies. But to call it evil is just plain foolish, but most Canadian teens are too busy drinking and smoking weed to actually understand politics. In reality, the US is Canada's best friend in the whole world. If Canada were ever attacked you could be damn sure America would be the first ones helping us out, but if we keep insulting them eventually they won't be there.
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^good point^
This is one of the reasons I don't like our current liberal government. Steven Harper wanted to build a better relationship with the US. These are just children that were polled. I would assume most Canadians would realize that we can't survive as a country without the US. I hear a lot of people say the best thing about being Canadian is that "we're not American". There really isn't much of a difference between the two countries.
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^good point^
This is one of the reasons I don't like our current liberal government. Steven Harper wanted to build a better relationship with the US. These are just children that were polled. I would assume most Canadians would realize that we can't survive as a country without the US. I hear a lot of people say the best thing about being Canadian is that "we're not American". There really isn't much of a difference between the two countries.
Excellent post. Harper said he wanted to build better relations and the faggot ass Bloc Quebecois said that he would make us a US state. Harper made so many great points, he might just have been our best PM ever but now he won't even be given the chance. The fucking Liberals and NDP made up so much bullshit propaganda about Harper it was insane. My fave Harper quote about that was, "They say we've got a hidden agenda. Hey Mr. Martin, where's our money?"
If Harper had been elected we'd have better relations with the US. Now we'll just piss them off more.
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no offense but america would be obligated to help because canada cant defend itself
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no offense but america would be obligated to help because canada cant defend itself
I don't see why America would be obligated, but I agree. Canada can't defend itself. Although apparently we're getting a $5 billion increase in military spending. I wonder where that money's coming from? Oh yeah, the already overtaxed people. >:(
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I don't really c a huge difference between Canada and the U.S when you look at the people and culture. Except in the French Speaking parts .
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I don't see why America would be obligated, but I agree.
America generally would help out any country it has an amicable relationship with militarily. Even though your prime minister thinks we're idiots, we'd be the first ones there (along with England, I'm sure, and Australia) if anything ever happened. We're all about beating somebody's ass, lol. I think Canada, Mexico, England, and Australia will always have the comfort of knowing we would protect them like we would our home land.
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Consider the poll within the context of the Bush administration. Ive thought America was evil for years, but u know us Canadians like our neighbours. Its just that Bush, in his approach, policies and actions is about as un "Canadian" as u can get. So its more anti Bush then anti Americanism up here.
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i say who cares...it's not like canada contributes anything good to the world
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i say who cares...it's not like canada contributes anything good to the world
Yea, but at the same time they don't contribute anything bad either.
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oh yes they do ....
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About the article.
First of all you can suddenly notice how big is the difference between all the interviewed teens (40% thinks USA is evil) and the french Canadian ones in particular (over 64%). It's easy to understand the reason. Second, they have made polls like this one in Italy too, and in Europe in general. And it was something close to 40% too (and we are talking about a pro-Bush Government, here in Italy). So those polls are not really interesting, in my opinions, cause everywhere there's a part of population pro-USA, and the other one, who can do nothing against it, who hates on USA. And to hate on USA means to think they are "evil". You can give this poll all the political interpretations you want/need, but it's a fact that if a 14 years old listen to his daddy call America "evil", he'll repeat it/think it. It's a fact that if the former Prime Minister's communications director calls Bush as a moron and if Carolyn Parrish says "Damn Americans. I hate those bastards!", it will affect common peoples opinion on USA, and the one of teens in particular. In a scenario like this one, i aint surprised some of the teens thinks, like their fathers do, that America is "evil". It's clear that if "Anti-Americanism played a prominent role in the election strategy of the Liberals", a lot of people will think about American the way Liberals do. Where's the surprise? The best comment about the article you can find it in the article itself: "with anti-Americanism playing such a prominent role in this past election campaign, it is no wonder that the United States was viewed in such a negative light".
@7even the Harbinger
99% of Americans think Muslims are evil? Maybe, i give you that. What about.. 99% of muslims think USA is evil? There's a war going on, shit. And propaganda is stronger than ever, during a war. Both sides. The problem is that one side is a "religious" side, and that's the thing i hate with a passion about this situation. Real muslims should not hate on other people, like real catholics should. Real muslims should not support other muslims acting wrong. Instead the truth is that a great percentage of muslims aint talking shit against them bastards beheading innocent people. In America they talked "enought" about the mistakes of Allies, dont they? In the middle east they arent. That's the difference. And i explained it better in that "the hypocricy of muslims" topic.
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i say who cares...it's not like canada contributes anything good to the world
Canada is possibly the greatest country in the world. We contribute lots. We are in tons of countries peacekeeping, we trade with any developing nations that need help, we accept anyone into our society with open arms. I doubt that anyone on this board read about that 9 year old Afghani boy who was sent over to Canada so we could treat his rare heart condition....FOR FREE.
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they contribute alchohol to younger people
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i say who cares...it's not like canada contributes anything good to the world
Canada is possibly the greatest country in the world. We contribute lots. We are in tons of countries peacekeeping, we trade with any developing nations that need help, we accept anyone into our society with open arms. I doubt that anyone on this board read about that 9 year old Afghani boy who was sent over to Canada so we could treat his rare heart condition....FOR FREE.
Quite childish. To say that a country is the greatest country in the world. To take care about that 9 year old Afghani boy was nothing but a political act. You what's not political? What Itay is doing right now in Iraq. We have ITALIAN Red Cross there, while the International Red Cross left Iraq due to a bomb. We got Carabinieri and Police there, helping Iraqi. We got doctors and volounteers, there....FOR FREE. And they're killing us.
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i say who cares...it's not like canada contributes anything good to the world
Canada is possibly the greatest country in the world. We contribute lots. We are in tons of countries peacekeeping, we trade with any developing nations that need help, we accept anyone into our society with open arms. I doubt that anyone on this board read about that 9 year old Afghani boy who was sent over to Canada so we could treat his rare heart condition....FOR FREE.
Quite childish. To say that a country is the greatest country in the world. To take care about that 9 year old Afghani boy was nothing but a political act. You what's not political? What Itay is doing right now in Iraq. We have ITALIAN Red Cross there, while the International Red Cross left Iraq due to a bomb. We got Carabinieri and Police there, helping Iraqi. We got doctors and volounteers, there....FOR FREE. And they're killing us.
How was taking that Afgani boy a political act when it was done 1.After the elections and 2. When there is no political party involved?
I respect what Italy is doing but that does not mean you need to disrespect what Canada does.
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they contribute alchohol to younger people
True that does bother me a bit, but we need tighter US/Canadian borders.
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i say who cares...it's not like canada contributes anything good to the world
Canada is possibly the greatest country in the world. We contribute lots. We are in tons of countries peacekeeping, we trade with any developing nations that need help, we accept anyone into our society with open arms. I doubt that anyone on this board read about that 9 year old Afghani boy who was sent over to Canada so we could treat his rare heart condition....FOR FREE.
Quite childish. To say that a country is the greatest country in the world. To take care about that 9 year old Afghani boy was nothing but a political act. You what's not political? What Itay is doing right now in Iraq. We have ITALIAN Red Cross there, while the International Red Cross left Iraq due to a bomb. We got Carabinieri and Police there, helping Iraqi. We got doctors and volounteers, there....FOR FREE. And they're killing us.
How was taking that Afgani boy a political act when it was done 1.After the elections and 2. When there is no political party involved?
I respect what Italy is doing but that does not mean you need to disrespect what Canada does.
No man, i'm not disrespecting Canada. When i say it's a political act i mean the whole world talked about it in all their newspapers. It's more like promotion. Like when a famous actor donates something with the press filming it on TV. Promotion. For a good reason, but still. FOR FREE? Damn you are talking about 10,000$ max. Other nations are doing more important things for 100,000,000$ or more, in the silence, and to help other people. They are sacrifying human lifes and loosing 20-25 years old guys to help others. It's a political act cause everybody thanked Canada because of that move. But nobody thanx everyday people who, in the silence, are giving their life to save other people's lifes. And i'm not talking about Italians only. Political parties has nothing to do with it. It's promotion, for a country. 10,000$ max to save a guy and let the whole world knows about it is not something "special". To leave everything home and to go to Iraq or Afghanistain helping poor people and risking your life is something "special". That's wassup. I got respect for Canada. For everybody. I just said the truth about that young guy. P.S. I'm happy they did it, dont get me wrong.
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they contribute alchohol to younger people
;D
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I really pisses me off when my friends/co-workers/acquaintances talk shit about the U.S. just cause they think they are arrogant. They don't know (or care) about what America has done for us. It's even worse when a member of our parliament is talking shit about the Americans and she even gets re-elected. It's embarrassing.
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Americans ARE evil. ;D
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I heard something interesting the other day on Southpark of all places, but it made a lot of sense to me. They siad that 1/3 of the world hates the US, because the US doesn't know that 1/3 of the world hates them.
i say who cares...it's not like canada contributes anything good to the world
Canada is a member of the G7, that means out of the over 200 countries in the world, Canada is in the top 7. And how can you say we've never contributed anything good to the world? Ever heard of William Shatner?
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Canada is bomb. I love that place with all my heart.
The way I look at is that 60% of your people don't think America is evil. Thats fine with me.
I don't really care about the other 40% I love all Canadians the same. I'm not ignorant and brainwashed enough to think a whole country is evil.
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Canada is bomb. I love that place with all my heart.
aaaw, that's love. All I can say to you is watch out for the birds.
*I saw a story on the news about birds that attack people in Eugene, OR.
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Canada is bomb. I love that place with all my heart.
aaaw, that's love. All I can say to you is watch out for the birds.
*I saw a story on the news about birds that attack people in Eugene, OR.
Oh shit!!??
Where at?!
I've been going to class everyday, and this bird has been swooping in on me and acting REALLY agressive. It was right next to this Starbucks and a police substation. I wonder if it's the same one?! I've talked to some of my friends and they've had the same shit happen to them and this one girl said the bird took a piece of her hair!
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Canada is bomb. I love that place with all my heart.
aaaw, that's love. All I can say to you is watch out for the birds.
*I saw a story on the news about birds that attack people in Eugene, OR.
Oh shit!!??
Where at?!
I've been going to class everyday, and this bird has been swooping in on me and acting REALLY agressive. It was right next to this Starbucks and a police substation. I wonder if it's the same one?! I've talked to some of my friends and they've had the same shit happen to them and this one girl said the bird took a piece of her hair!
Yeah I think they said it was by a police station.
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Canada is bomb. I love that place with all my heart.
aaaw, that's love. All I can say to you is watch out for the birds.
*I saw a story on the news about birds that attack people in Eugene, OR.
Oh shit!!??
Where at?!
I've been going to class everyday, and this bird has been swooping in on me and acting REALLY agressive. It was right next to this Starbucks and a police substation. I wonder if it's the same one?! I've talked to some of my friends and they've had the same shit happen to them and this one girl said the bird took a piece of her hair!
Yeah I think they said it was by a police station.
HAHAHH! Crazy! Was it in the paper? Or on the news? What Station? Sorry I'm asking so many questions, I just think it's funny that something I was involved in and as small as that made international news!
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HAHAH I just found it:
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/07/17/national/main563855.shtml
You can peep it on the right hand column! Thats not the same area where I got attacked, but it's the same type of bird!
Eugene -
It has been a crazy scene in Downtown Eugene. A stream of attacks has people running, waving their hands and dodging out of the way. Pedestrians are being attacked in broad daylight, seemingly out of nowhere. "It was awful," says one woman.
Innocent victims rarely see it coming. "It scares you, it sort of just drops out of the sky," says a woman who's been hit.
It has been happening for more than a month. Brewers Blackbirds are protecting the territory around their nests. The birds' encounters with passersby have become street theater. "They'll come down there 3 or 4 at a time and some lady will walk by and just get hammered by them," says a witness.
A front office window provides a prime viewing spot for the day long show. "We have some people that really get a kick out of watching people get harried by the birds," says Brian Jacobson from inside the office of Jacqua & Wheatly, P.C.
There is no predicting who will get hit, but some pedestrians seem to draw prolonged attacks. The regulars here come prepared with whatever will keep the dive bombing birds from hitting their target, choosing to open umbrellas, wave papers or turn 360 degrees while watching the sky.
The experienced have conceded the entire sidewalk, choosing the safe side of the street out of the free fire zone. Everyone else is either on the run, armed with protection or a potential victim.
Don't say you have not been warned.
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LOL ^ Was it a pigeon?
In bird related news, my friends were forced to burn some pigeons that had ammassed on his balcony. I disagreed with his eviction methods. Walking towards the lobby, i see a pigeon lying on a side walk with its brains spilt and my friend waving from the balcony.
They're everywhere.
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Canada is bomb. I love that place with all my heart.
aaaw, that's love. All I can say to you is watch out for the birds.
*I saw a story on the news about birds that attack people in Eugene, OR.
Oh shit!!??
Where at?!
I've been going to class everyday, and this bird has been swooping in on me and acting REALLY agressive. It was right next to this Starbucks and a police substation. I wonder if it's the same one?! I've talked to some of my friends and they've had the same shit happen to them and this one girl said the bird took a piece of her hair!
Yeah I think they said it was by a police station.
HAHAHH! Crazy! Was it in the paper? Or on the news? What Station? Sorry I'm asking so many questions, I just think it's funny that something I was involved in and as small as that made international news!
I saw it on the Seattle news a few days ago.
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Canada is bomb. I love that place with all my heart.
aaaw, that's love. All I can say to you is watch out for the birds.
*I saw a story on the news about birds that attack people in Eugene, OR.
Oh shit!!??
Where at?!
I've been going to class everyday, and this bird has been swooping in on me and acting REALLY agressive. It was right next to this Starbucks and a police substation. I wonder if it's the same one?! I've talked to some of my friends and they've had the same shit happen to them and this one girl said the bird took a piece of her hair!
Yeah I think they said it was by a police station.
HAHAHH! Crazy! Was it in the paper? Or on the news? What Station? Sorry I'm asking so many questions, I just think it's funny that something I was involved in and as small as that made international news!
I saw it on the Seattle news a few days ago.
lol same