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Title: Let's say the world took a chance on peace: Who would be in?
Post by: infinite59 on July 20, 2004, 01:37:48 PM
Let's say Nelson Mandela, the Pope, and other world leaders got together and said, "On Jan. 1rst 2005 we are all going to declare world peace.  Whoever is in on this world peace, we want you to destroy all of your weapons of mass destruction, end all of your wars, all of your fighting, put the guns down, and let's give peace a try!"

Who do you think would be in?  Who would be willing to give away their military might to give peace a chance?  Who would be willing to end all their military operations to give peace a chance?  Who has the most to gain?  Who has the most to lose?  Would those who had the most to gain be more willing to give peace a chance, then those who had the most to lose? 

My guess would be that the most powerful nations militarily, would be the last one's to ever give peace a try and dismantle their military operations.
Title: Re: Let's say the world took a chance on peace: Who would be in?
Post by: pappy on July 20, 2004, 01:46:55 PM
very few people would be in it.  from the most powerful nation to the lowest terroist leader.
Title: Re: Let's say the world took a chance on peace: Who would be in?
Post by: infinite59 on July 20, 2004, 01:57:12 PM
very few people would be in it.  from the most powerful nation to the lowest terroist leader.

The poor people that have a great deal to gain, would surely be in on it.
Title: Re: Let's say the world took a chance on peace: Who would be in?
Post by: Sikotic™ on July 20, 2004, 03:04:01 PM
It would be beautiful. Just for a few days no fighting, but too bad the hearts of men are wicked.
Title: Re: Let's say the world took a chance on peace: Who would be in?
Post by: Jome on July 20, 2004, 03:06:53 PM
My guess would be that the most powerful nations militarily, would be the last one's to ever give peace a try and dismantle their military operations.

Sad, but true.
Title: Re: Let's say the world took a chance on peace: Who would be in?
Post by: 7even on July 20, 2004, 03:12:47 PM
Definitely Germany
Title: Re: Let's say the world took a chance on peace: Who would be in?
Post by: GoodLuvn169 on July 20, 2004, 03:24:24 PM
Not too many people.  Although everybody would want to they would be afraid of the people that wouldn't abide to the peace.  And for that sole fact they would keep their guns and weapons of mass destruction.  Everybody would be afraid of the other person.  I hope what I'm saying makes sense.
Title: Re: Let's say the world took a chance on peace: Who would be in?
Post by: Montana00 on July 20, 2004, 07:18:05 PM
middle east is out.
Title: Re: Let's say the world took a chance on peace: Who would be in?
Post by: Trauma-san on July 20, 2004, 09:27:59 PM
Nobody trusts anyone in the world, and conspiracy theories run the day.  So nobody would do it.  @ the same time, saying men's hearts are wicked is rediculous, men do not naturally have wicked hearts.  You're born pure it's the world and your situations and encounters that turn your heart wicked, it's natural state is to be pure and loving. 
Title: Re: Let's say the world took a chance on peace: Who would be in?
Post by: Maradona on July 20, 2004, 11:33:18 PM
middle east is out.

Yup, those damn Iraqis and their WMDs; they attacked us and killed millions of our people. ::)
Title: Re: Let's say the world took a chance on peace: Who would be in?
Post by: Doggystylin on July 20, 2004, 11:42:31 PM
middle east is out.

Your quick to say middle east is out, but not the U.S.? Who has a war going on in 2 countries and the strongest military force in the world? Iraq and Afganistan don't even have a military and the U.S. is still over there fighting them. What middle east country that has a military is engaged in war right now...hmm.... I think it just might be.....

the only true democracy in the middle east


If you don't know who that is then go ask your buddy Woodrow
Title: Re: Let's say the world took a chance on peace: Who would be in?
Post by: Don Rizzle on July 21, 2004, 12:10:44 AM
My guess would be that the most powerful nations militarily, would be the last one's to ever give peace a try and dismantle their military operations.

Sad, but true.

uhuh, but on the other hand the west would have the most to lose
Title: Re: Let's say the world took a chance on peace: Who would be in?
Post by: Don Rizzle on July 21, 2004, 12:35:56 AM
Definitely Germany
They wouldn't need to britain has 25,000 troops there and and america has a fair wack too, many german towns depend on our militry presence, on the positive for us we have plenty of places to practise with our tanks etc. as in britain all we have is the salisbury plain which isn't big enough
Title: Re: Let's say the world took a chance on peace: Who would be in?
Post by: Billy Bollocks on July 21, 2004, 04:52:18 AM
And if theres an alien invasion?

Someone needs to catch up on missed episodes of The Simpsons.
Title: Re: Let's say the world took a chance on peace: Who would be in?
Post by: 7even on July 21, 2004, 06:03:20 AM
Definitely Germany
They wouldn't need to britain has 25,000 troops there and and america has a fair wack too, many german towns depend on our militry presence, on the positive for us we have plenty of places to practise with our tanks etc. as in britain all we have is the salisbury plain which isn't big enough

what the hell do we benefit from stupid jets polluting our air and making noise? the USA is big enough to have their tanks on their fuckin own ground. it's amazing USA/England have the nerve to station their troops here.
Title: Re: Let's say the world took a chance on peace: Who would be in?
Post by: Don Rizzle on July 21, 2004, 06:19:28 AM
And if theres an alien invasion?

Someone needs to catch up on missed episodes of The Simpsons.
maybe this will interest you you can find the whole article here (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/3842031.stm) if u wish

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In November 1989 the fall of the Berlin Wall marked the downfall of communism and the end of the Cold War.

After Germany became reunified France withdrew its troops altogether while Britain and the US slashed the number of men they stationed in the country.

But although the Soviet troops left eastern Germany in the early 1990s there have never been any demands from the German government for the British and Americans to go.

In fact quite the opposite.

The British Army employs nearly 6,000 German workers and British service personnel and their families spend their wages in German shops and restaurants.

Boost to local economy

BFG is estimated to input around 1.5 billion euros a year into the German economy and their departure would be devastating to local businesses.


When bases in the town of Soest, near Dortmund, closed in the early 1990s the local economy was hit badly as there was very little alternative employment locally.
Many empty barracks were used to house German migrants from the former East Germany and the former Soviet Union - known as ubersiedler and aufsiedler respectively - who brought with them social problems and crime.

British Army spokesman Alan Patterson said: "In most of Germany any suggestion that we are moving out is met with a degree of angst and fear from those who really think about it."

A spokesman for the German Embassy in London told BBC News Online: "It is not a topic for political debate in Germany. Nobody is asking for them to go home. We are happy to have them."

There are some, such as the PDS, the former East German communist party, who want the British to leave.

But the ruling Social Democrats, and the opposition Christian Democrats, do not share the PDS's view and the presence of foreign troops has failed to become an issue.

It seems the British troops in Germany are there to stay.
Title: Re: Let's say the world took a chance on peace: Who would be in?
Post by: 7even on July 21, 2004, 06:24:37 AM
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But the ruling Social Democrats, and the opposition Christian Democrats, do not share the PDS's view and the presence of foreign troops has failed to become an issue.

lolol.. I still dont see why. That our main parties want them to stay doesnt mean shit to me, because our parties suck.

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"In most of Germany any suggestion that we are moving out is met with a degree of angst and fear from those who really think about it."


do you believe we're afraid russians might come with tanks and oppress our country as soon as your troops leave? LOL


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The British Army employs nearly 6,000 German workers and British service personnel and their families spend their wages in German shops and restaurants.

ok.. our economy sucks.. but we're not that pathetic yet.
Title: Re: Let's say the world took a chance on peace: Who would be in?
Post by: Don Rizzle on July 21, 2004, 07:16:17 AM
but at the end of the day ur better off with us there than without
Title: Re: Let's say the world took a chance on peace: Who would be in?
Post by: infinite59 on July 21, 2004, 08:49:27 AM
Nobody trusts anyone in the world, and conspiracy theories run the day.  So nobody would do it.  @ the same time, saying men's hearts are wicked is rediculous, men do not naturally have wicked hearts.  You're born pure it's the world and your situations and encounters that turn your heart wicked, it's natural state is to be pure and loving. 

You sound like a Muslim.  Muslim's believe that man is born righteous and in submission to the will of the Creator.  It is society that can teach the child to later reject his true nature.

Your a Christian right?  Don't Christian's believe that man was born in sin and that Jesus Christ had to die on the cross to save their sins, and that they have to believe Jesus died on the cross and be baptized and all that to save themselves from sin?
Title: Re: Let's say the world took a chance on peace: Who would be in?
Post by: Montana00 on July 21, 2004, 10:19:12 AM
....Just because a country doesnt have WMD, and a "large american like" army, doesnt mean there a peaceful country, and cant be enemies.

And when did i say USA would be in on this peace thing? I live here, i know we cant live in peace. The fact is the world will never live in peace.
Title: Re: Let's say the world took a chance on peace: Who would be in?
Post by: 7even on July 21, 2004, 10:20:57 AM
....Just because a country doesnt have WMD, and a "large american like" army, doesnt mean there a peaceful country, and cant be enemies.

And when did i say USA would be in on this peace thing? I live here, i know we cant live in peace. The fact is the world will never live in peace.

Iraq never declared war or threatened America and no Iraqi citizen ever killed an American.

If USA can attack Iraq, they can attack ANY country in the world.
Title: Re: Let's say the world took a chance on peace: Who would be in?
Post by: Thirteen on July 21, 2004, 10:26:12 AM
terrorists don't need any military weapons to kill and that's already been proven. don't think as soon as the U.S. destroys all it's weapons that no crazy country/group of people would try anything. i think if anything, america would be one of the last one's to destroy all their weapons. it's not that we're unwilling, it's that we're not as dumb as iraq  ;D
Title: Re: Let's say the world took a chance on peace: Who would be in?
Post by: 7even on July 21, 2004, 10:28:48 AM
terrorists don't need any military weapons to kill and that's already been proven. don't think as soon as the U.S. destroys all it's weapons that no crazy country/group of people would try anything. i think if anything, america would be one of the last one's to destroy all their weapons. it's not that we're unwilling, it's that we're not as dumb as iraq  ;D

that america attacked nevertheless is one of the most coward and word-breaking things in history. it's a shame how down-played it is.
Title: Re: Let's say the world took a chance on peace: Who would be in?
Post by: white Boy on July 21, 2004, 10:34:36 AM
id like peace, but crime would still happen, and ending terrorism is imposibble. You cant stop people from being greedy, evil, jelouse, hatefull, ect.
Title: Re: Let's say the world took a chance on peace: Who would be in?
Post by: Thirteen on July 21, 2004, 10:39:43 AM
terrorists don't need any military weapons to kill and that's already been proven. don't think as soon as the U.S. destroys all it's weapons that no crazy country/group of people would try anything. i think if anything, america would be one of the last one's to destroy all their weapons. it's not that we're unwilling, it's that we're not as dumb as iraq  ;D

that america attacked nevertheless is one of the most coward and word-breaking things in history. it's a shame how down-played it is.

actually we gave them a list of demands, they just complied with one of them, it's now the american's fault that they comlied with the worst one.

it's like at a stand down when the police yell "come out with your gun down and your hands up or we will shoot" you pretty much should do both so you don't end up with a bullet in your ass
Title: Re: Let's say the world took a chance on peace: Who would be in?
Post by: Montana00 on July 21, 2004, 01:14:57 PM
....Just because a country doesnt have WMD, and a "large american like" army, doesnt mean there a peaceful country, and cant be enemies.

And when did i say USA would be in on this peace thing? I live here, i know we cant live in peace. The fact is the world will never live in peace.

Iraq never declared war or threatened America and no Iraqi citizen ever killed an American.

If USA can attack Iraq, they can attack ANY country in the world.
what does that have to do with what i said?
Title: Re: Let's say the world took a chance on peace: Who would be in?
Post by: RXL on July 21, 2004, 07:50:11 PM
Canada :D
Title: Re: Let's say the world took a chance on peace: Who would be in?
Post by: Maradona on July 21, 2004, 10:59:43 PM
....Just because a country doesnt have WMD, and a "large american like" army, doesnt mean there a peaceful country, and cant be enemies.

And when did i say USA would be in on this peace thing? I live here, i know we cant live in peace. The fact is the world will never live in peace.

Iraq never declared war or threatened America and no Iraqi citizen ever killed an American.

If USA can attack Iraq, they can attack ANY country in the world.
what does that have to do with what i said?

You don't know shit about politics. Just shut the hell up already. I don't blame you for not being able to reply to that post that clearly shows how stupid you really are.
Title: Re: Let's say the world took a chance on peace: Who would be in?
Post by: Don Rizzle on July 22, 2004, 12:47:30 AM
....Just because a country doesnt have WMD, and a "large american like" army, doesnt mean there a peaceful country, and cant be enemies.

And when did i say USA would be in on this peace thing? I live here, i know we cant live in peace. The fact is the world will never live in peace.

Iraq never declared war or threatened America and no Iraqi citizen ever killed an American.

If USA can attack Iraq, they can attack ANY country in the world.
to be fair putin did say they had inteligence iraq was planning an attack on america which they repeated warned america about, although it did come at a very convienent time (only a month or 2 ago), and saddam had proved he couldn't be trusted. i just think we could have gone about it a better way.