West - Minnesota or Lakers
Team to watch is Denver
East - New York or Miami
Team to watch is Detriot
Seriously, Its going to be The CLIPPERS
Shaun Livingston & Elton Brand Are Unstopabble!!!!!!
CLIPPERS BITCH!
What do you mean aint doing shit AGAIN, they made major improvements last year from the season before. Isiah Thomas came in and turned the whole team around. There was like 3 people left from the original roster after he got done trading. He aquired Stephon Marbury for some nobodys and brought in Lenny Wilkens. The team actually made the playoffs this year and that was without Allan Houston who was sitting on the bench for the whole 2nd half of the season. With a few more trades here and there, the Knicks could very well be title contenders.
whoa wait a minute... this thread is "for real"? so we were just pretending in the other thread? ok then.
Houston won't be shit....mc grady ....all he can do is score and dunk , he has no d, he has no leadership skills whatso ever and the 2 reasons why houston made the playoffs in the first place are in orlando right now. Francis and Mobley WILL be MISSED. Yao Ming sux straight up he has a good game every 12 games or so....maybe that's enough in china but this is the NBA .
whoa wait a minute... this thread is "for real"? so we were just pretending in the other thread? ok then.
not so much that everybody was pretending. But if u noticed in the other thread, and most threads like it. 99% of the people responding just pick their favorite team (Big Bad Ass is the 1% i think). So i just wanted to see what everybody would vote on, WITHOUT picking their favorite team. (M-Dogg didnt understand the thread apparently lol).
whoa wait a minute... this thread is "for real"? so we were just pretending in the other thread? ok then.
not so much that everybody was pretending. But if u noticed in the other thread, and most threads like it. 99% of the people responding just pick their favorite team (Big Bad Ass is the 1% i think). So i just wanted to see what everybody would vote on, WITHOUT picking their favorite team. (M-Dogg didnt understand the thread apparently lol).
what about me i should be in that 1%.... i didnt choose the bulls lol
^^LOL...That doesn't make you any cooler; just less of a fan.
^^LOL...That doesn't make you any cooler; just less of a fan.
and a blind fan makes u a better fan? Have a realistic goal.
Give me 10 good reasons why the Lakers will win the NBA FInals. 10 and no bs reasons neither.
You people aren't fans one bit...Have you ever heard of having faith in your team? I mean, come on...You don't see Mich Kupchak, Jerry Buss, and Rudy Tomjanavich running around saying "I think Minnesota will win the championship"...That would just be a slap in the face to the fans...If you're a fan, you root for your team and have faith for your team...When you claim your a fan, and then say "I doubt they have a chance this year," that makes me question your credebility as a fan...With a starting lining that includes the best player in the game (Kobe Bryant), a proven star forward (Lamar Odom), an up and coming star (Caron Butler), a hall of a fame player (Gary Payton), and one of the few good centers in the game (Vlade Divac)...How can you even have the guts to say the Lakers aren't in the run?...That's not a fan, buddy...PeACe
You people aren't fans one bit...Have you ever heard of having faith in your team? I mean, come on...You don't see Mich Kupchak, Jerry Buss, and Rudy Tomjanavich running around saying "I think Minnesota will win the championship"...That would just be a slap in the face to the fans...If you're a fan, you root for your team and have faith for your team...When you claim your a fan, and then say "I doubt they have a chance this year," that makes me question your credebility as a fan...With a starting lining that includes the best player in the game (Kobe Bryant), a proven star forward (Lamar Odom), an up and coming star (Caron Butler), a hall of a fame player (Gary Payton), and one of the few good centers in the game (Vlade Divac)...How can you even have the guts to say the Lakers aren't in the run?...That's not a fan, buddy...PeACe
Clippers goal- Get to the playoffs
Twolves goal- win it all
Spurs goal- win it all
Pitsons goal- Repeat
Heat goal- Eastern Conference Finals
Lakers goal- Start rebuilding, see what kind of damage they can do in the playoffs and IMPROVE to be Next years contenders. Kobe has the talent...its barely his first year to prove what hes made of. I GOTTA SEE TO BELIEVE. PLus Jordan had more help on his team than what kobe has to work with right now. Where are the true 3 pt. shooters? The Rebounders? Top Notch defender?
NIK...ur starting to sound like Jack Haley.
If you're a Clipper fan, you should be pulling for them to make the playoffs...That's the Clippers goal...Lakers goal isn't to make the playoffs, it's to win a championship, and to be a fan, you must have faith...Shaq was slowing down the Lakers, and I think the Lakers improved this year...Kobe wont have a selfish fatso begging for the bell, and complaining that he doesn't get it enough after every game...This is Kobe's Jordan year...PeACe
what has kobe said after shaq was traded away? "its going to be a challenge" "it will be fun" "uphilll battle"
Signs of a contender huh?
what has Jerry and jeanie buss said? "rebuilding", "we have to move on"
WOW ur right nik...they are saying they are going to win it next year
You people aren't fans one bit...Have you ever heard of having faith in your team? I mean, come on...You don't see Mich Kupchak, Jerry Buss, and Rudy Tomjanavich running around saying "I think Minnesota will win the championship"...That would just be a slap in the face to the fans...If you're a fan, you root for your team and have faith for your team...When you claim your a fan, and then say "I doubt they have a chance this year," that makes me question your credebility as a fan...With a starting lining that includes the best player in the game (Kobe Bryant), a proven star forward (Lamar Odom), an up and coming star (Caron Butler), a hall of a fame player (Gary Payton), and one of the few good centers in the game (Vlade Divac)...How can you even have the guts to say the Lakers aren't in the run?...That's not a fan, buddy...PeACe
naw man. Fans dont have to be blind tho. Yeah, u should support your team always. And if youre a real fan u always pull for em. But that doesnt mean you should be unrealistic about shit. There are plenty of Clipper fans in LA...do u think that in order to be a REAL Clipper fan, u should believe that they are winning the title this next year? lol right.
If you're a Clipper fan, you should be pulling for them to make the playoffs...That's the Clippers goal...Lakers goal isn't to make the playoffs, it's to win a championship, and to be a fan, you must have faith...Shaq was slowing down the Lakers, and I think the Lakers improved this year...Kobe wont have a selfish fatso begging for the bell, and complaining that he doesn't get it enough after every game...This is Kobe's Jordan year...PeACe
Clippers goal- Get to the playoffs
Twolves goal- win it all
Spurs goal- win it all
Pitsons goal- Repeat
Heat goal- Eastern Conference Finals
Lakers goal- Start rebuilding, see what kind of damage they can do in the playoffs and IMPROVE to be Next years contenders. Kobe has the talent...its barely his first year to prove what hes made of. I GOTTA SEE TO BELIEVE. PLus Jordan had more help on his team than what kobe has to work with right now. Where are the true 3 pt. shooters? The Rebounders? Top Notch defender?
NIK...ur starting to sound like Jack Haley.
of course they are not picking other teams. but have you heard anybody say "anything short of a championship will be a dissapointment to this upcoming Laker team.
look at the history of the great centers, wait look at the history of the Lakers. Each dynasty has had a legendary center...and when they didnt have a legendary center but a Hall of Fame team they just came oh so close to win it all almost every damn year with West and Baylor. Wilt helped them to get over that hump. The Lakers dont win rings....we get dynasties bro. And a dynasty is not build right away after another one is gone. It takes time. So far it is looking okay. Within in these next 3 years they are going to have to start getting some solid role players to play with kobe.
of course they are not picking other teams. but have you heard anybody say "anything short of a championship will be a dissapointment to this upcoming Laker team.
look at the history of the great centers, wait look at the history of the Lakers. Each dynasty has had a legendary center...and when they didnt have a legendary center but a Hall of Fame team they just came oh so close to win it all almost every damn year with West and Baylor. Wilt helped them to get over that hump. The Lakers dont win rings....we get dynasties bro. And a dynasty is not build right away after another one is gone. It takes time. So far it is looking okay. Within in these next 3 years they are going to have to start getting some solid role players to play with kobe.
One word...Bulls.
Bulls had....
3 pt shooters
Defensive Players everywhere
Rebounders
Lakers have Kobe, KObe, and Kobe with Lamar
Dammit, dont be fucking blind. Its not even close to being the same team.
Remember Detroit did it with Ben Wallace center. And, honestly, he aint that better than Divac and Brian Grant.
^^You've tried what? To tell me that the Spurs were gunna take it this year, and put out the Lakers?...Yea, get your head out your ass...I already saw Jake turn around and say the Spurs were gunna take it this year, and now I'm seeing Javier say Lakers aren't contenders...I don't think I'm gunna follow the trend...PeACe
Remember Detroit did it with Ben Wallace center. And, honestly, he aint that better than Divac and Brian Grant.
for the love of basketball, tell me u were kidding there?
If the Spurs just lost Tony Parker, I doubt you'd lose hope...Kobe Bryant has been the leader ever since Shaq got old & lazy...I'm not blind, Lakers winning the Championship isn't an unreasonable prediction...PeACe
If the Spurs just lost Tony Parker, I doubt you'd lose hope...Kobe Bryant has been the leader ever since Shaq got old & lazy...I'm not blind, Lakers winning the Championship isn't an unreasonable prediction...PeACe
Kobe wasnt the leader man. He was just the one looking for all the attention. That doesnt make him the leader, just a spoiled little brat that cant handle playing his ROLE.
If the Spurs just lost Tony Parker, I doubt you'd lose hope...Kobe Bryant has been the leader ever since Shaq got old & lazy...I'm not blind, Lakers winning the Championship isn't an unreasonable prediction...PeACe
Kobe wasnt the leader man. He was just the one looking for all the attention. That doesnt make him the leader, just a spoiled little brat that cant handle playing his ROLE.
If the Spurs just lost Tony Parker, I doubt you'd lose hope...Kobe Bryant has been the leader ever since Shaq got old & lazy...I'm not blind, Lakers winning the Championship isn't an unreasonable prediction...PeACe
Kobe wasnt the leader man. He was just the one looking for all the attention. That doesnt make him the leader, just a spoiled little brat that cant handle playing his ROLE.
Is it to hard to say Kobe is the best player in the league?
If the Spurs just lost Tony Parker, I doubt you'd lose hope...Kobe Bryant has been the leader ever since Shaq got old & lazy...I'm not blind, Lakers winning the Championship isn't an unreasonable prediction...PeACe
Kobe wasnt the leader man. He was just the one looking for all the attention. That doesnt make him the leader, just a spoiled little brat that cant handle playing his ROLE.
Is it to hard to say Kobe is the best player in the league?
If the Spurs just lost Tony Parker, I doubt you'd lose hope...Kobe Bryant has been the leader ever since Shaq got old & lazy...I'm not blind, Lakers winning the Championship isn't an unreasonable prediction...PeACe
Kobe wasnt the leader man. He was just the one looking for all the attention. That doesnt make him the leader, just a spoiled little brat that cant handle playing his ROLE.
I always hear you talking about how Kobe looks for attention, and how he's not a leader...You're most definitely a hater...Show me proof of Kobe looking for attention... And how is he not a leader when all his teamates have praised him and said they've learned from him one time or another?...Shaq is the one who left, right? It looks like Shaq's the one who wanted the attention...He couldn't handle Kobe getting all the spotlight and attention from Jerry Buss & Mitch Kupchak...Kobe is one of the greatest players to ever play the game...You're just a hater on a message board who can't get his facts straight...End of story.
only because he isnt. What has he done to prove that? How many MVP's does he have? How many times has he lead his team to the championship without SHAQ? And now that Shaq IS gone...LA will be somewhere between 4th and 6th in the west probably. He shoots alot, his game is cold and hot. He isnt consistent. Sounds like the best player in the league to me ::)
Only when Kobe was mature (lol, 20-21) enought to be a starter for the Lakers, and only when Phil arrived to L.A.,
QuoteOnly when Kobe was mature (lol, 20-21) enought to be a starter for the Lakers, and only when Phil arrived to L.A.,I believe it was mainly Phil. Phil helped BOTH shaq and kobe to mature. but towards the end both players started acting like little kids. Even Rodman has said when he got there in 1999 he left because millionaires were bitching too much. Hmm wonder what two players
If the Spurs just lost Tony Parker, I doubt you'd lose hope...Kobe Bryant has been the leader ever since Shaq got old & lazy...I'm not blind, Lakers winning the Championship isn't an unreasonable prediction...PeACe
Kobe wasnt the leader man. He was just the one looking for all the attention. That doesnt make him the leader, just a spoiled little brat that cant handle playing his ROLE.
I always hear you talking about how Kobe looks for attention, and how he's not a leader...You're most definitely a hater...Show me proof of Kobe looking for attention... And how is he not a leader when all his teamates have praised him and said they've learned from him one time or another?...Shaq is the one who left, right? It looks like Shaq's the one who wanted the attention...He couldn't handle Kobe getting all the spotlight and attention from Jerry Buss & Mitch Kupchak...Kobe is one of the greatest players to ever play the game...You're just a hater on a message board who can't get his facts straight...End of story.
Yeah, and Shaq's teammates praised him too. Duncans Teammates praise him. Garnetts praise him. Its called knowing your position on the team. If a role player doesnt get along with a star...the role player goes. You ride Kobe's dick so unbelievably. I would have to say you are BY FAR the biggest dick rider in the world. You should definetely put on a kobe jersey, a skirt, and get some pom poms. Like i said, Kobe has never been MVP...and id be surprised if he ever is lol. MAYBE he has a shot this year cus he can shoot EVERY SINGLE time down the floor like he wants, and try to score his 30-35 points a game that he wants. Meanwhile, his team will lose. Thats a leader huh? Youre so blind its ridiculous. Your team is OBVIOUSLY (to any person who doesnt have Kobe's dick down their throat) worse then last year. Considerably worse. And the worst part is, they are leaving the team in Kobe's hands. He's the only veteran in the game, that isnt mature enough to run a team. If you cant see that taking Shaq OFF the team, makes them weaker...then you know even less about basketball then i thought you did.
As for Kobe bein one of the best of all time....yeah, he's definetely one of the top 50 of all time...or so. He hasnt proved anything yet.
If the Spurs just lost Tony Parker, I doubt you'd lose hope...Kobe Bryant has been the leader ever since Shaq got old & lazy...I'm not blind, Lakers winning the Championship isn't an unreasonable prediction...PeACe
Kobe wasnt the leader man. He was just the one looking for all the attention. That doesnt make him the leader, just a spoiled little brat that cant handle playing his ROLE.
I always hear you talking about how Kobe looks for attention, and how he's not a leader...You're most definitely a hater...Show me proof of Kobe looking for attention... And how is he not a leader when all his teamates have praised him and said they've learned from him one time or another?...Shaq is the one who left, right? It looks like Shaq's the one who wanted the attention...He couldn't handle Kobe getting all the spotlight and attention from Jerry Buss & Mitch Kupchak...Kobe is one of the greatest players to ever play the game...You're just a hater on a message board who can't get his facts straight...End of story.
Yeah, and Shaq's teammates praised him too. Duncans Teammates praise him. Garnetts praise him. Its called knowing your position on the team. If a role player doesnt get along with a star...the role player goes. You ride Kobe's dick so unbelievably. I would have to say you are BY FAR the biggest dick rider in the world. You should definetely put on a kobe jersey, a skirt, and get some pom poms. Like i said, Kobe has never been MVP...and id be surprised if he ever is lol. MAYBE he has a shot this year cus he can shoot EVERY SINGLE time down the floor like he wants, and try to score his 30-35 points a game that he wants. Meanwhile, his team will lose. Thats a leader huh? Youre so blind its ridiculous. Your team is OBVIOUSLY (to any person who doesnt have Kobe's dick down their throat) worse then last year. Considerably worse. And the worst part is, they are leaving the team in Kobe's hands. He's the only veteran in the game, that isnt mature enough to run a team. If you cant see that taking Shaq OFF the team, makes them weaker...then you know even less about basketball then i thought you did.
As for Kobe bein one of the best of all time....yeah, he's definetely one of the top 50 of all time...or so. He hasnt proved anything yet.
You can say I'm a Kobe dickrider, and I can say you're a Kobe hater...I mean, look how much you hate on the guy, it's unbelievable...Even people who hate Kobe admit he's the best in the league right now...And Kobe is anything but inconsistent...You better check yourself man, because you sound stupid...PeACe
If the Spurs just lost Tony Parker, I doubt you'd lose hope...Kobe Bryant has been the leader ever since Shaq got old & lazy...I'm not blind, Lakers winning the Championship isn't an unreasonable prediction...PeACe
Kobe wasnt the leader man. He was just the one looking for all the attention. That doesnt make him the leader, just a spoiled little brat that cant handle playing his ROLE.
I always hear you talking about how Kobe looks for attention, and how he's not a leader...You're most definitely a hater...Show me proof of Kobe looking for attention... And how is he not a leader when all his teamates have praised him and said they've learned from him one time or another?...Shaq is the one who left, right? It looks like Shaq's the one who wanted the attention...He couldn't handle Kobe getting all the spotlight and attention from Jerry Buss & Mitch Kupchak...Kobe is one of the greatest players to ever play the game...You're just a hater on a message board who can't get his facts straight...End of story.
Yeah, and Shaq's teammates praised him too. Duncans Teammates praise him. Garnetts praise him. Its called knowing your position on the team. If a role player doesnt get along with a star...the role player goes. You ride Kobe's dick so unbelievably. I would have to say you are BY FAR the biggest dick rider in the world. You should definetely put on a kobe jersey, a skirt, and get some pom poms. Like i said, Kobe has never been MVP...and id be surprised if he ever is lol. MAYBE he has a shot this year cus he can shoot EVERY SINGLE time down the floor like he wants, and try to score his 30-35 points a game that he wants. Meanwhile, his team will lose. Thats a leader huh? Youre so blind its ridiculous. Your team is OBVIOUSLY (to any person who doesnt have Kobe's dick down their throat) worse then last year. Considerably worse. And the worst part is, they are leaving the team in Kobe's hands. He's the only veteran in the game, that isnt mature enough to run a team. If you cant see that taking Shaq OFF the team, makes them weaker...then you know even less about basketball then i thought you did.
As for Kobe bein one of the best of all time....yeah, he's definetely one of the top 50 of all time...or so. He hasnt proved anything yet.
You can say I'm a Kobe dickrider, and I can say you're a Kobe hater...I mean, look how much you hate on the guy, it's unbelievable...Even people who hate Kobe admit he's the best in the league right now...And Kobe is anything but inconsistent...You better check yourself man, because you sound stupid...PeACe
thats all you came back with? Who sounds stupid? lol. Who are the people that hate kobe that say he's the best in the game? lolol. Did you even watch last season? Did you see the MVP race? I mean come on. The only reason he received more sportcenter coverage then Shaq, was because he cheated on his wife and possibly raped somebody. Its good to be a fan of the guy. But be real. 95% of the people on this board who think he's the top player in the game, are Laker fans. And if he would have left instead of Shaq, you guys would be dickriding Shaq and saying Kobe was overrated lol. Youre such hypocrits. The man is good, obviously...but he has done NOTHING to prove himself the best player in the game. He's won some rings, while playing under Phil Jackson who damn near always wins, and along side Shaq who made Kobe's game better. He has done NOTHING on his own. I repeat...NOTHING. Duncan and Garnett both have excelled while being the only go to guy on their teams. Duncan winning 2 championships that way. Kobe, has been the sidekick But somehow, to you...that makes him the best? LOL.
plus two hall of famers..
Kobe has been one of the best players out for sometime now, and the past 2 years has out scored Shaq on the Lakers team, and in 2002-2003 Kobe was I think second in scoring, with Shaq on his team. Kobe is the man, and should be respected as such. People can hate all they want, but the fact is Kobe can flat out play ball, DayGo likes compare skill levels of people (the stupit Shaq vs. Duncan argument) well not even DayGo can denie that Kobe is the most skilled player out there today. His head sometimes clashes with people, but Kobe has way more skillz than Duncan... lol.