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DUBCC - Tha Connection => Outbound Connection => Topic started by: Jome on July 22, 2004, 07:09:45 PM

Title: Jay-Z is ASCAP'd for Nas "Braveheart party"
Post by: Jome on July 22, 2004, 07:09:45 PM
http://www.ascap.com/ace/search.cfm?requesttimeout=300&mode=results&searchstr=320798054&search_in=i&search_type=exact&search_det=t,s,w,p,b,v&results_pp=30&start=1 (http://www.ascap.com/ace/search.cfm?requesttimeout=300&mode=results&searchstr=320798054&search_in=i&search_type=exact&search_det=t,s,w,p,b,v&results_pp=30&start=1)

ASCAP doesn't BS..  :o :o
Title: Re: Jay-Z ghostwrote for Nas !!
Post by: RXL on July 22, 2004, 07:11:51 PM
What the fuck?  Maybe it's a mistake or something... Jay-Z wouldn't ghostwrite a track on an album that has Ether on it.
Title: Re: Jay-Z ghostwrote for Nas !!
Post by: Jome on July 22, 2004, 07:17:43 PM
I guess that's why Nas later removed the track from the album.. to avoid getting exposed..
"You made it a hot line, I made it a hot song"... hmmmmm.

Nas wrote Will Smith's "Just Cruisin":

http://www.ascap.com/ace/search.cfm?requesttimeout=300&mode=results&searchstr=400174889&search_in=i&search_type=exact&search_det=t,s,w,p,b,v&results_pp=20&start=1 (http://www.ascap.com/ace/search.cfm?requesttimeout=300&mode=results&searchstr=400174889&search_in=i&search_type=exact&search_det=t,s,w,p,b,v&results_pp=20&start=1)
Title: Re: Jay-Z ghostwrote for Nas !!
Post by: jeromechickenbone on July 22, 2004, 07:21:05 PM
when jay says "you made it a hot line, i made it a hot song" he's referencing when he sampled NAS voice on dead presidents on Reasonable
Doubt. I'm pretty sure if Jay was a ghostwriter for Nas, he would have made a HUGE deal about it when they were actively beefin.  I don't believe this is accurate.
Title: Re: Jay-Z ghostwrote for Nas !!
Post by: smartass on July 22, 2004, 07:24:30 PM
I guess that's why Nas later removed the track from the album.. to avoid getting exposed..
"You made it a hot line, I made it a hot song"... hmmmmm.

Nas wrote Will Smith's "Just Cruisin":

http://www.ascap.com/ace/search.cfm?requesttimeout=300&mode=results&searchstr=400174889&search_in=i&search_type=exact&search_det=t,s,w,p,b,v&results_pp=20&start=1 (http://www.ascap.com/ace/search.cfm?requesttimeout=300&mode=results&searchstr=400174889&search_in=i&search_type=exact&search_det=t,s,w,p,b,v&results_pp=20&start=1)
he also wrote gettin jiggy with it and miami

i bet 95% of the people on this site don't know that sauce money wrote ill be missing you, either
Title: Re: Jay-Z ghostwrote for Nas !!
Post by: Doggystylin on July 22, 2004, 07:34:05 PM
when jay says "you made it a hot line, i made it a hot song" he's referencing when he sampled NAS voice on dead presidents on Reasonable
Doubt. I'm pretty sure if Jay was a ghostwriter for Nas, he would have made a HUGE deal about it when they were actively beefin.  I don't believe this is accurate.

exactly
Title: Re: Jay-Z ghostwrote for Nas !!
Post by: Jome on July 22, 2004, 08:18:24 PM
when jay says "you made it a hot line, i made it a hot song" he's referencing when he sampled NAS voice on dead presidents on Reasonable
Doubt. I'm pretty sure if Jay was a ghostwriter for Nas, he would have made a HUGE deal about it when they were actively beefin.  I don't believe this is accurate.

Yeah I know, I was just trying to stir some hysteria..  ;D
I think maybe that Swizz sampled the track, but it's rather strange that Nas is given no writing credits.

Title: Re: Jay-Z ghostwrote for Nas !!
Post by: phoneix66 on July 23, 2004, 09:36:21 AM
That was a horribly wack song, but Nas wrote it. It's a mistake in the database.
Title: Re: Jay-Z ghostwrote for Nas !!
Post by: N-Sane Brain on July 23, 2004, 12:39:27 PM
I guess that's why Nas later removed the track from the album.. to avoid getting exposed...

As far as I know Mary J. wanted the track to be removed, because she didn't want to help Nas or Jigga as long as they were beefing, because she's cool with both of 'em.

...I'm pretty sure if Jay was a ghostwriter for Nas, he would have made a HUGE deal about it when they were actively beefin...

That's what I'm thinking.
Title: Re: Jay-Z ghostwrote for Nas !!
Post by: GangstaBoogy on July 23, 2004, 12:47:26 PM
if Jay was a ghostwriter for Nas, he would have made a HUGE deal about it when they were actively beefin

yup
Title: Re: Jay-Z ghostwrote for Nas !!
Post by: RXL on July 23, 2004, 12:52:51 PM
yeah
Title: Re: Jay-Z ghostwrote for Nas !!
Post by: RuffRyder189 on July 23, 2004, 02:29:38 PM
I guess that's why Nas later removed the track from the album.. to avoid getting exposed..
"You made it a hot line, I made it a hot song"

Jay-Z is talking about Dead Presidents. Nas said that line in The World Is Yours. Then jay-z sampled that line and used it on Dead Presidents 2.



Title: Re: Jay-Z ghostwrote for Nas !!
Post by: 7even on July 23, 2004, 06:12:13 PM
lol@Jome

what's next

Cam'ron ghostwriting for Rakim? lol.
Title: Re: Jay-Z ghostwrote for Nas !!
Post by: RXL on July 23, 2004, 06:39:34 PM
That would be hilarious
Title: Re: Jay-Z ghostwrote for Nas !!
Post by: Darksider on July 23, 2004, 08:09:44 PM
lol@Jome

what's next

Cam'ron ghostwriting for Rakim? lol.
lol
Title: Re: Jay-Z ghostwrote for Nas !!
Post by: Jome on July 23, 2004, 08:44:16 PM
lol@Jome

what's next

Cam'ron ghostwriting for Rakim? lol.

Like Jay-Z and Nas is that far off.. terrible comparison. ::)

Stranger things have happened, and it was not a error in the database, btw.
Swizz Beatz originally planned "Braveheart Party" for Jay-Z, Busta Rhymes & Mary J. Blige, of course under a different name.
Jay didn't want it, but for some reason he got it ASCAP'd, and when Swizz then sold it to Nas, Nas got listed as artist, but Jay in the ASCAP.



I guess that's why Nas later removed the track from the album.. to avoid getting exposed..
"You made it a hot line, I made it a hot song"
Jay-Z is talking about Dead Presidents. Nas said that line in The World Is Yours. Then jay-z sampled that line and used it on Dead Presidents 2.

I said I knew, read the replies before you post.

Title: Re: Jay-Z ghostwrote for Nas !!
Post by: Okka on July 24, 2004, 06:31:00 AM
I think this is fake...Nas & jay was beefin at the time...
Title: Re: Jay-Z ghostwrote for Nas !!
Post by: Jome on July 24, 2004, 07:56:54 PM
I think this is fake...Nas & jay was beefin at the time...

Like I said:

Stranger things have happened, and it was not a error in the database, btw.
Swizz Beatz originally planned "Braveheart Party" for Jay-Z, Busta Rhymes & Mary J. Blige, of course under a different name.
Jay didn't want it, but for some reason he got it ASCAP'd, and when Swizz then sold it to Nas, Nas got listed as artist, but Jay in the ASCAP.

Some dude on another forum called up ASCAP and said he was a young up and coming artist who wanted to use the sample..
He was told to talk with Mary J Blige or/and a certain Shawn C. Carter or their record labels..

Title: Re: Jay-Z ghostwrote for Nas !!
Post by: RXL on July 24, 2004, 10:43:53 PM
I think this is fake...Nas & jay was beefin at the time...

Like I said:

Stranger things have happened, and it was not a error in the database, btw.
Swizz Beatz originally planned "Braveheart Party" for Jay-Z, Busta Rhymes & Mary J. Blige, of course under a different name.
Jay didn't want it, but for some reason he got it ASCAP'd, and when Swizz then sold it to Nas, Nas got listed as artist, but Jay in the ASCAP.

Some dude on another forum called up ASCAP and said he was a young up and coming artist who wanted to use the sample..
He was told to talk with Mary J Blige or/and a certain Shawn C. Carter or their record labels..



Well the ASCAP people would only tell that guy to talk to Mary J/Jay-Z because that's what's marked in their database.  Man he talked to probably doesn't know any better.
Title: Re: Jay-Z ghostwrote for Nas !!
Post by: Doggystylin on July 24, 2004, 10:47:59 PM
I think this is fake...Nas & jay was beefin at the time...

ladies and gentlemen... we have a genious in the house
Title: Re: Jay-Z ghostwrote for Nas !!
Post by: Leggy Hendrix on July 25, 2004, 06:32:59 AM
I think this is fake...Nas & jay was beefin at the time...

ladies and gentlemen... we have a genious in the house

lol...like Jome said, the track was originally intended for Busta Rhymes, Jay Z and Mary J Blige...

i also heard that Jay wrote the hook for mary j for the og track, and she used it in Braveheart Party, and thats why he's credited on ascap...
Title: Re: Jay-Z ghostwrote for Nas !!
Post by: N-Sane Brain on July 25, 2004, 06:35:20 AM
...i also heard that Jay wrote the hook for mary j for the og track, and she used it in Braveheart Party, and thats why he's credited on ascap...

That would make sense.