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Lifestyle => Train of Thought => Topic started by: Maradona on July 24, 2004, 12:04:31 PM
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''Any claim about Iran's direct or indirect links to the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks is fabrication and fantasy,'' Foreign Ministry spokesman Hamid Reza Asefi told the official IRNA news agency.
''It is not strange that some people manage to slip through a country's borders illegally. ... What is funny is the fact that the country which has given them visas, residency permits, pilot training and sabotage training is making such claims,'' he said.
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talk is cheap. we'd fuck them up ;D
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Great response. Iran will win the war of words with the U.S., unlike Sadaam who could've exposed the U.S. but lacked morals and intelligence.
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no he did make the US look stupid but you really can't gloat when you're locked up in prison
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no he did make the US look stupid but you really can't gloat when you're locked up in prison
Saddam wanted to have a 1-on-1 talk with Bush, and have a cameraman there to film it. Bush however, being the coward that he is, refused. Saddam wanted expose everything the U.S. has done in and for Iraq in the last 50 years, and we know Bush doesn't want that, since this whole country's government is based on lies and deception when it comes to foreign relations.
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Great response. Iran will win the war of words with the U.S., unlike Sadaam who could've exposed the U.S. but lacked morals and intelligence.
Thank God you are a very intelligent man!(http://members.lycos.nl/thugpoetry/smilies/biertje.gif)
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you think he'd still speak up anyways if he did have terrible stories....but i digress, that was a funny quote
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Bush is giving us a preview of his plans for his next term if he gets reelected
lol@ the response tho
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Whatd funny is the Facts of us giving them training and visa's and such is complete bullshit, ur a media brain washed morons. yea they come into our country, were on border of afghanistan what can we do? before u have a problem with our border control, fix urs with mexico and u cant even keep cubans n haitians off. and 3rd wuts funny is fucking up Iran, wont happen USA n IRaq tried that before, Iraq was almost taken ovei nstead. USA is occupied with Iraq...ISreal occupied with Palestine...unless u wunt ur country to open for Cuba and North Korea to have a laugh and good time with u being unstable, be my guest, and whats funny is u THINK we have nuke's....of course we wun u to think we dont have them yet =D.....lol u think they would admit to having them so USA could cut off our supply with euopean countries? they r jus waiting for Bush to talk shyt about going over there and trying to fuck with us. this will be Fun...americans and there Ego's bout easily defeating countries. doesn't work like that.
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Whatd funny is the Facts of us giving them training and visa's and such is complete bullshit, ur a media brain washed morons. yea they come into our country, were on border of afghanistan what can we do?
LMAO. I don't think you understood the excerpt. That was the Iranian Foreign Ministry spokesman Hamid Reza Asef who said that about the United States.
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o well in that case....im lovin it =p lol
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No shit Iran would say the oppopiste. ::) They dont want american troops in their country. They have nuceluar weapons and the resources to make them. Its all been proven.
What is funny is the fact that the country which has given them visas, residency permits, pilot training and sabotage training is making such claims[/glow],
How the fuck would we know that they were terriosts ???
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No shit Iran would say the oppopiste. ::) They dont want american troops in their country. They have nuceluar weapons and the resources to make them. Its all been proven.
ah, proven like it was proven that Saddam had WMDs?
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ah, proven like it was proven that Saddam had WMDs?
That was never proven
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No shit Iran would say the oppopiste. ::) They dont want american troops in their country. They have nuceluar weapons and the resources to make them. Its all been proven.
What is funny is the fact that the country which has given them visas, residency permits, pilot training and sabotage training is making such claims[/glow],
How the fuck would we know that they were terriosts ???
First of all, why would they WANT American troops in their country? Is their an International rule that states that every country has to have American troops stationed in their country? What if Iran said they were going to station their troops in the U.S., would the U.S. invite them?
So you say it's all been proven? Will you be willing to present me this PROOF? Because people were saying that there's proof for Iraq's WMDs, but that obviously isn't the case, is it?!
How the fuck would we know they were terrorists? HOW THE FUCK WOULD THEY KNOW?
Just like Mexicans have the ability to illegally cross the border into our country, don't you think that people cross borders in other parts of the world as well?
In conclusion, you're an idiot.
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First of all, why would they WANT American troops in their country? Is their an International rule that states that every country has to have American troops stationed in their country? What if Iran said they were going to station their troops in the U.S., would the U.S. invite them?
No there is no Internation rule that states that every country has to have american troóps in there country.
If Iran said they were going to station their troops in the U.S, the US would not invite them. But we the truth is america is the most powerful country in the world and they can do whatever the fuck they want to do. If they dont like it then thats to bad.
So you say it's all been proven? Will you be willing to present me this PROOF? Because people were saying that there's proof for Iraq's WMDs, but that obviously isn't the case, is it?!
Yes it has been proven. If you read the 9/11 commison it states this.And yes there are no WMDs in Iraq.
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So your response to my first part of the post was that "America can do whatever the fuck it wants, and if a country doesn't like it, too bad"; which isn't much of a response, rather an ignorant statement. However, we'll overlook your stupidity for now, and see if maybe you can give a reasonable response to the second part of my post:
You said "How the fuck would we know they were terrorists?"... My question "HOW THE FUCK WOULD THEY KNOW?"
Just like Mexicans have the ability to illegally cross the border into our country, don't you think that people cross borders in other parts of the world as well?
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But we the truth is america is the most powerful country in the world and they can do whatever the fuck they want to do. If they dont like it then thats to bad.
machiavelli is on his way to take over the crown of ToT rampant owned for a while.
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No shit Iran would say the oppopiste. ::) They dont want american troops in their country. They have nuceluar weapons and the resources to make them. Its all been proven.
very simple fact, if Iran has weapons, we can't do shit about it. Iran is a sovern nation, with the right to build it's own defense, and there are not laws against Iran gaining weapons, unlike Saddam who was ordered by the U.N. to get rid of all it's weapons. Iran has no regulation, so it doesn't matter.
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You said "How the fuck would we know they were terrorists?"... My question "HOW THE FUCK WOULD THEY KNOW?"
Just like Mexicans have the ability to illegally cross the border into our country, don't you think that people cross borders in other parts of the world as well?
Whose "they" when you said " HOW THE FUCK WOULD THEY KNOW?".
very simple fact, if Iran has weapons, we can't do shit about it. Iran is a sovern nation, with the right to build it's own defense, and there are not laws against Iran gaining weapons, unlike Saddam who was ordered by the U.N. to get rid of all it's weapons. Iran has no regulation, so it doesn't matter.
ok, you maybe right, but do you think that the US and the UN would let Iran build WMDs? - knowing that Iran houses terriosts networks and has link to Al Quiada
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how bout the US having WMD. I dont feel good about that. I dont like nations who attack other countries randomly to have such strong weapons, would you?
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how bout the US having WMD. I dont feel good about that. I dont like nations who attack other countries randomly to have such strong weapons, would you?
Your comparing apples to oranges
At least the US doesnt house and support terriosts networks that are most likey to use a WMD for a bad cause like Iraq, Iran, or North Korea.
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how bout the US having WMD. I dont feel good about that. I dont like nations who attack other countries randomly to have such strong weapons, would you?
Your comparing apples to oranges
At least the US doesnt house and support terriosts networks that are most likey to use a WMD for a bad cause like Iraq, Iran, or North Korea.
Terrorism is just a art of war. Dont see how it's worse than unjustified war. Kills less ppl. As far as Im comparing Apples to Oranges, you have hardcore double standards, I dont.
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Terrorism is just a art of war. Dont see how it's worse than unjustified war. Kills less ppl. As far as Im comparing
It depends. Sometimes unjustfied war is worse(germany in WWII) and sometimes terroism is worse(Al Quiada in 9/11). :-\
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Terrorism is just a art of war. Dont see how it's worse than unjustified war. Kills less ppl. As far as Im comparing
It depends. Sometimes unjustfied war is worse(germany in WWII) and sometimes terroism is worse(Al Quiada in 9/11). :-\
so basically, what goes against whites and/or americans is worse?
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so basically, what goes against whites and/or americans is worse?
No, i never said that.
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so basically, what goes against whites and/or americans is worse?
No, i never said that.
by which criteria do you judge then if I may ask?
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by which criteria do you judge then if I may ask?
What do mean? If its worse for americans to get attacked?
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Before 9/11, we housed terriorist we never knew about.
Terrorism is a form of war. So unjust war is like the whole orange, and terrorism is a piece of orange, if you want to use apple and oranges, we can use anything else. Anyways, the fact is, no matter what happens, when people die, that's the worst, no matter what your are, or how you believe.
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by which criteria do you judge then if I may ask?
What do mean? If its worse for americans to get attacked?
I mean what makes you claim this: It depends. Sometimes unjustfied war is worse(germany in WWII) and sometimes terroism is worse(Al Quiada in 9/11).
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I mean what makes you claim this: It depends. Sometimes unjustfied war is worse(germany in WWII) and sometimes terroism is worse(Al Quiada in 9/11).
What do you mean ???
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Terrorism is just a art of war. Dont see how it's worse than unjustified war. Kills less ppl.
Right ::)
I understand why the US has weapons of mass destruction, it's for the same reason North Korea and Iran have them.
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For you fucks who think USA doesnt support terrorism like "iran korea etc"...USA gave Al Quieda 6 billion dollars in 1989 and Cia trained terrorists and paid Isreali's to train al quieda members in Pakistan. so for u fuckz brain washed from the american media, theres a history lesson for ya. =D btw Iran/Iraq doesnt support terrorism in the way you think. they support it as in "ya we dont like americans were not gonna stop you" but its not like they gave them 6 million n trained them. Iran and mos other ocuntries ahrbor less terrorists than America does. and Iran and Syria do support the Hezbollah which they call terrorists are mostly in Jordan and Lebanon sitting on there ocuntries border protecting it from the ISreali's who want the land. so if defending ur country is terrorism then ok yes Iran and Syria support terrorism. i think no middle eastern country supports terrorism. i think certian people do. but a country? now that might be taking it to far.
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For you fucks who think USA doesn't support terrorism like "Iran Korea etc"...USA gave Al Quid 6 billion dollars in 1989 and CIA trained terrorists and paid Israeli's to train AL quid members in Pakistan. so for u fucks brain washed from the American media, theres a history lesson for ya. =D BTW Iran/Iraq doesn't support terrorism in the way you think. they support it as in "ya we dint like Americans were not gonna stop you" but its not like they gave them 6 million n trained them. Iran and mos other countries arbor less terrorists than America does. and Iran and Syria do support the Herbal which they call terrorists are mostly in Jordan and Lebanon sitting on there countries border protecting it from the Israeli's who want the land. so if defending ur country is terrorism then ok yes Iran and Syria support terrorism. i think no middle eastern country supports terrorism. i think certian people do. but a country? now that might be taking it to far.
Wow i cant believe the Ignorance in your post ::) Your saying that the US gave money to Al Quiada? What a dumb fuck...
Reagan gave money to AFGHANISTAN and trained them to fight the Russians(during this time the Russians were our enemy). During that time(80s) Afghanistan was not controlled by a terrorist taliban government. They were peaceful people.
To conclude:
(http://www.alcofielen.com/pics/forumpics/peopleSUCK/yourestupid/bushthinks.jpg)
i think no middle eastern country supports terrorism.
yes Iran and Syria support terrorism
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wow mach, good wun! considering im not talking bout the training against Russians im talking bout recents 90's my friend, stop watching TV and Read, learn a little my friend =D. and the group that rose up as a "militia" to fight against russia was still known as al quieda. they were the same as now USA jsu helped them cuz they didnt like russia. and ya u still wouldnt know a thing or 2 about who supports terrorism or not. ur jus a hard headed American whos just as biased as any other dumb ass. You probly believe that Osoma had to do with 9/11 and Sudaam has links with al quieda.
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wow mach, good wun! considering im not talking bout the training against Russians im talking bout recents 90's my friend, stop watching TV and Read, learn a little my friend =D. and the group that rose up as a "militia" to fight against russia was still known as al quieda. they were the same as now USA jsu helped them cuz they didnt like russia. and ya u still wouldnt know a thing or 2 about who supports terrorism or not. ur jus a hard headed American whos just as biased as any other dumb ass. You probly believe that Osoma had to do with 9/11 and Sudaam has links with al quieda.
Show me proof of when the U.S gave 6 billion dollars to Al Quiada in 1989,
Show me proof of when the U.S trained terror networks.
Show me proof of when the US payed Israel to Train terrorists.
Show me proof that the U.S harbors more terrorists then Iran, Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia, Syria, or Iraq.
Show me proof that Bin Laden has NOTHING to do with 9/11. - because it has been prov-en.
I'm eagerly awaiting your reply.
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actually its the CIA who trained the terorists and payed isreali's =D. look it up urself ur smart enough right? do i need to do everything for you? feed knowledge? heres some, Why on FBI's most wanted Osoma is not wanted for 9/11? strange isn't it? and if u dont kno Al quieda was givin 6 billion in 1989...look it up u'd be suprised. honestly. u should even kno that if ur aware of so many political issues. and U'd prolly act suprised if i told u bout the book the president during Pearl harbor wrote a book saying they kno japan was coming to attack and they let it happen so they could go to war and get out of the great depression.
http://emperor.vwh.net/articles/jared/madein.htm
Even this guy knows more than you. all u need to do is take the time to read my friend. you really think Media whos pro-president wise would say things like this? i wouldn't think so either.
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actually its the CIA who trained the terorists and payed isreali's =D. look it up urself ur smart enough right? do i need to do everything for you? feed knowledge? heres some, Why on FBI's most wanted Osoma is not wanted for 9/11? strange isn't it? and if u dont kno Al quieda was givin 6 billion in 1989...look it up u'd be suprised. honestly. u should even kno that if ur aware of so many political issues.
The CIA is the U.S right. Correct me if I'm wrong...Also about this Al quiada getting 6 BILLION is completely bullshit unless i get some proof.
and U'd prolly act suprised if i told u bout the book the president during Pearl harbor wrote a book saying they kno japan was coming to attack and they let it happen so they could go to war and get out of the gr
eat depression.
How is this Relevent?
http://emperor.vwh.net/articles/jared/madein.htm
Even this guy knows more than you. all u need to do is take the time to read my friend. you really think Media whos pro-president wise would say things like this? i wouldn't think so either.
I dint read conspiracy shit. Shit gets me thinking. Conspiracy theory's are made up of opinionated facts and false articles usually.
I want some hard proof.
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most those "opinions" come from Time and Fox news and such. it all makes sense if u read it all maybe it will open ur eyes a little bit?....they even have a site on how Bush timed everything wrong on Fox News and CNN how he claimed to see the first tower get hit before the first tower was hit and considering no footage is shown of the first tower getting hit, that is kinda funny. its all over the internet all the proof u need. jus take the time. conspieracies do get me thinking to, thats why i started searching these things. half r not true half are. u'd be suprised about lot of things. basicly to me Osoma and Bush r the same people to me.
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For you fucks who think USA doesn't support terrorism like "Iran Korea etc"...USA gave Al Quid 6 billion dollars in 1989 and CIA trained terrorists and paid Israeli's to train AL quid members in Pakistan. so for u fucks brain washed from the American media, theres a history lesson for ya. =D BTW Iran/Iraq doesn't support terrorism in the way you think. they support it as in "ya we dint like Americans were not gonna stop you" but its not like they gave them 6 million n trained them. Iran and mos other countries arbor less terrorists than America does. and Iran and Syria do support the Herbal which they call terrorists are mostly in Jordan and Lebanon sitting on there countries border protecting it from the Israeli's who want the land. so if defending ur country is terrorism then ok yes Iran and Syria support terrorism. i think no middle eastern country supports terrorism. i think certian people do. but a country? now that might be taking it to far.
Wow i cant believe the Ignorance in your post ::) Your saying that the US gave money to Al Quiada? What a dumb fuck...
Reagan gave money to AFGHANISTAN and trained them to fight the Russians(during this time the Russians were our enemy). During that time(80s) Afghanistan was not controlled by a terrorist taliban government. They were peaceful people.
To conclude:
(http://www.alcofielen.com/pics/forumpics/peopleSUCK/yourestupid/bushthinks.jpg)
i think no middle eastern country supports terrorism.
yes Iran and Syria support terrorism
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The U.S. gave money to the Mujahiddeen. You know what they did besides fight the Russians? Burn teachers with acid, forced students to stop going to school, forced boys to fight and women to stay home. The U.S. didn't give a fuck about those people, all they cared about was the Soviets not taking over another country. The U.S. didn't even help rebuild the country, and that is probably one of the biggest factors explaining the open harbor for terrorists in the country. You seriously don't know jack-shit about anything you say.
The U.S., ISI, and Israelis all helped train the Taliban in Pakistan.
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Maradona wins =D btw look up on Time's website or sumtin anything u find legit as hard proof for the 6 billion dollars issue. maybe u'd choke by suprise.
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americans supporting the taliban in afganistan to fight the russians was costing 1 billion dollars a year they said that on secret wars on the history channel or something.
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^^ ya, America always supported their current biggest enemies before they became their enemies... (saddam, bin laden, taliban..)
a few words come to my mind regarding this.. one is irony, the other one is karma and the next one is suspicious.
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The U.S. gave money to the Mujahiddeen. You know what they did besides fight the Russians? Burn teachers with acid, forced students to stop going to school, forced boys to fight and women to stay home. The U.S. didn't give a fuck about those people, all they cared about was the Soviets not taking over another country. The U.S. didn't even help rebuild the country, and that is probably one of the biggest factors explaining the open harbor for terrorists in the country. You seriously don't know jack-shit about anything you say.
Ya i dont give a fuck about those people. Just like they wouldnt give a fuck about the US if we were in that situation. Also, is it the US job to help rebuild the country?You think Afganistan would help rebuild our country?
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well if a country supports a certain group they are then responsible for their actions. just like america said iraq co oporates with terrorists and they are saying it about iran which some people believe is next on bush's list if reelected. its not like we have even rebuilt afganistan or iraq to prewar levels especially as we bombed the shit out of them its our responsibility especially if we trying to prove we don't have totally evil intenrtions in the middle east
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Terrorism is just a art of war. Dont see how it's worse than unjustified war. Kills less ppl. As far as Im comparing Apples to Oranges, you have hardcore double standards, I dont.
Terrorism is a political act, not an act of war
terrorist acts are used to sway a government not to initiate war
so yes it's apples and oranges
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Of course you dont give a fuck bout those people cause maradona just proved everything you were having hard time trying to swallow bout ur countries flaws. and yes they were responsible to rebuild Affghanistan since they promised this in light of this war. they even promised it after all the bombing "trying to kill or capture osoma" and supposedly they r gunna rebuild Iraq to. they are full of shit.
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Terrorism is just a art of war. Dont see how it's worse than unjustified war. Kills less ppl. As far as Im comparing Apples to Oranges, you have hardcore double standards, I dont.
Terrorism is a political act, not an act of war
terrorist acts are used to sway a government not to initiate war
so yes it's apples and oranges
I have my own reasonable way of thinking and often I dont give a fuck how something is defined in a dictionnary or by your dear mr. president
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Terrorism is just a art of war. Dont see how it's worse than unjustified war. Kills less ppl. As far as Im comparing Apples to Oranges, you have hardcore double standards, I dont.
Terrorism is a political act, not an act of war
terrorist acts are used to sway a government not to initiate war
so yes it's apples and oranges
I have my own reasonable way of thinking and often I dont give a fuck how something is defined in a dictionnary or by your dear mr. president
i guess you don't follow history then either do you?
they threatened to cut off that philipino guys head not to declare war, but to get that countries people out of iraq
they bombed spains trains not to declare war on that country but to get their people out of iraq
they kidnap americans not to declare war but to set their opperatives free
should i go on or do you like your own ignorant thinking?
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Terrorism is just a art of war. Dont see how it's worse than unjustified war. Kills less ppl. As far as Im comparing Apples to Oranges, you have hardcore double standards, I dont.
Terrorism is a political act, not an act of war
terrorist acts are used to sway a government not to initiate war
so yes it's apples and oranges
I have my own reasonable way of thinking and often I dont give a fuck how something is defined in a dictionnary or by your dear mr. president
i guess you don't follow history then either do you?
they threatened to cut off that philipino guys head not to declare war, but to get that countries people out of iraq
they bombed spains trains not to declare war on that country but to get their people out of iraq
they kidnap americans not to declare war but to set their opperatives free
should i go on or do you like your own ignorant thinking?
lol@the random history stuff.. just for the sake of frontin I guess?
you look at the small picture (way too small picture). some ppl call that ignorant.
they wont have to declare war lmao, when there actually is war going on - I mean wtf?
they wanted the peeps out of Iraq, as you said. Coo. Now imagine the Iraqi army being so damn strong that they kicked the US armies + allied troops ass so damn bad that they all decide to leave.
Would you call that terrorism? No.
Would you call that trying (and in this case succeeding) getting "their people out of Iraq"? Yes.
Both things have the same intention and could have the same effect if they are successful. The only difference is, one thing they cant do cause the war is imbalanced, the western troops are of course by far too strong, and the other thing they can do.
Attacking with knives from behind and taping it if you have no guns & bombs, so to speak.
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no you're looking at the small picture
why do you think terrorists do terrorists acts to convince governments to change?
because they can't stand up to armies which furthers the fact that they do it for political reasons rather than to declare war
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so ppl just should stand there and do nothing watching their country getting bombed and their kind getting killed although none of them has done anything wrong to the nations that fuck them up? it that what you would do if your parents, sisters, children and relatives are killed for nothing, and your country and race is bombed for nothing, and your army isnt worth a piece of shit, and still ppl have the nerve to call that liberating, while the same ppl dont even consider your race a human being?
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so ppl just should stand there and do nothing watching their country getting bombed and their kind getting killed although none of them has done anything wrong to the nations that fuck them up? it that what you would do if your parents, sisters, children and relatives are killed for nothing, and your country and race is bombed for nothing, and your army isnt worth a piece of shit, and still ppl have the nerve to call that liberating, while the same ppl dont even consider your race a human being?
well they could do something about it....but last time they did that sadaam just gassed a couple hundred thousand people... so i guess they were damned either way
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so ppl just should stand there and do nothing watching their country getting bombed and their kind getting killed although none of them has done anything wrong to the nations that fuck them up? it that what you would do if your parents, sisters, children and relatives are killed for nothing, and your country and race is bombed for nothing, and your army isnt worth a piece of shit, and still ppl have the nerve to call that liberating, while the same ppl dont even consider your race a human being?
well they could do something about it....but last time they did that sadaam just gassed a couple hundred thousand people... so i guess they were damned either way
that's another story and you know it..
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same place, same people, just a different time