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Lifestyle => Sports & Entertainment => Topic started by: Smoke on August 07, 2004, 02:57:28 AM
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Let's discuss about Lakers off-season here.
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I have high hopes for the team...And I still don't think they're done making moves.
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I still don't think they're done making moves either.
I agree. Potentially they have the best roster possible to make trades. Young guys, you know. Small contracts, great flexibility.
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maybe they'll get lucky in the lottery and get a high draft pick...this team is going nowhere
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do realize you just called chris mihm the potential best rebounder...you cant be serious
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We need one more big move. The only thing I didn't like about the last trade is that it seemed like a trade just to trade. We just traded because we can, and that's a really bad sign if a team does that, plus we got rid of a first round draft pick, which if a Nelson type player falls again to number 20, that would be a very bad move on the Lakers.
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you cant count Kobe, Slava and the Rookie, since those ppl just stayed, and that's where it stops. It's not like they got em in exchange for Shaq, Payton or something.
also, dont count Malone (lmao @him being the best PF in the league... you forgot to take your blue pills this mornin?). He hasnt even re-signed with the Lakers, and if he does, read what I wrote regarding Kobe, Slava & this Dude
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Why is it that the only NBA team we talk about is the lakers?
Lets start talking about a team that is going to win some games next season.
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Why is it that the only NBA team we talk about is the lakers?
Lets start talking about a team that is going to win some games next season.
well they made the biggst trades this off-season.
other trades were big too.. houston/orlando for example, but you gotta admit Lakers made a huge change and it's gonna be interesting to see how the Goat-predicted Kobe does without Shoq. The best teams, Minnesota and San Antonio havent changed. And Mavs ruined themselves.
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maybe they'll get lucky in the lottery and get a high draft pick...this team is going nowhere
(http://www.ebaumsworld.com/forumfun/negative11.jpg)
do realize you just called chris mihm the potential best rebounder...you cant be serious
Nobody is saying this team is winning the Championship, fool. I said: Of course they aint pretenders, without Shaq. But they have a young team who can make the Play-Offs, advance, and who can let the Lakers aquire 2 pretty big names in the next 2 years of Free Agency. which is pretty different. And i've said in a lot of posts that It's over! :'( so what the fuck are you talking about? And about Mihm, he ranks #6 in the NBA in Offensive Rebounds Per 48 Minutes (5.6) and #10 in the NBA in Rebounds Per 48 Minutes (14.9). I never said he's better than Shaq, or as good as Shaq, cause he's just a backup center. But stats are stats. Next time you talk with me you betta check yourself, fool.
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you cant count Kobe, Slava and the Rookie, since those ppl just stayed, and that's where it stops. It's not like they got em in exchange for Shaq, Payton or something.
also, dont count Malone (lmao @him being the best PF in the league... you forgot to take your blue pills this mornin?). He hasnt even re-signed with the Lakers, and if he does, read what I wrote regarding Kobe, Slava & this Dude
Kobe and Slava were unrestricted free agents. So i consider them as real aquisitions. Plus matter of fact the fact they signed Kobe was the reason why they traded Shaq, and viceversa. About Malone, i've added it both in the players "lost" or in the players "aquired", in black/white (we still dont know wassup with him). And yes, i think he's the best PF in the league, once again ask Garnett and Duncan about it. Y'all care too much about points scored. Malone can defend, he can pass, he has experience and leadership and IMO he's one of the 3 best PF ever.
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lol, they wont make playoffs with that team. Malone ain't the best PF anymore, maybe he used to be, 5years ago or so, now he looks like grandpa and is too slow for the new "young" lakers team, build around kobe. What if Kobe gets injured, what then? Im waitin new "lakers" post tomorrow this same time ;)
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you cant count Kobe, Slava and the Rookie, since those ppl just stayed, and that's where it stops. It's not like they got em in exchange for Shaq, Payton or something.
also, dont count Malone (lmao @him being the best PF in the league... you forgot to take your blue pills this mornin?). He hasnt even re-signed with the Lakers, and if he does, read what I wrote regarding Kobe, Slava & this Dude
And yes, i think he's the best PF in the league, once again ask Garnett and Duncan about it. Y'all care too much about points scored. Malone can defend, he can pass, he has experience and leadership and IMO he's one of the 3 best PF ever.
the fact you really think malone is still anywhere near duncan and garnett with his 41 years when those 2 dudes are in their prime is fucking annoying.
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Matter of fact Malone's Lakers eliminated Duncan's San Antonio and Garnett's Minnesota last year, thanx to Malone's defence. I didnt find it annoying, i've found it exciting. ;D
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Matter of fact Malone's Lakers eliminated Duncan's San Antonio and Garnett's Minnesota last year, thanx to Malone's defence. I didnt find it annoying, i've found it exciting. ;D
lol. the only difference is Duncan and Garnett OWN their teams, while the Lakers were owned by two players, and none of them was called Malone. Malone on the Lakers is like Hoiberg on the Wolves, lmao.
btw: isnt this the topic that was "deleted"? LMAO.
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lol. the only difference is Duncan and Garnett OWN their teams, while the Lakers were owned by two players, and none of them was called Malone. Malone on the Lakers is like Hoiberg on the Wolves, lmao.
So what? Of course Malone aint the same, phisically speaking, that he used to be 20 years ago. He's 41. But still he embarassed Garnett (20 years younger) and won the battle against Duncan. He's not a superstar no more, ok. But he did his job. He won the "battle" against Duncan and Garnett. So dont act like he's the shittiest PF in the league, cause it's a fact last year he has defeated both Garnett and Duncan. 10-20 years younger.
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Matter of fact Malone's Lakers eliminated Duncan's San Antonio and Garnett's Minnesota last year, thanx to Malone's defence. I didnt find it annoying, i've found it exciting. ;D
lol. the only difference is Duncan and Garnett OWN their teams, while the Lakers were owned by two players, and none of them was called Malone. Malone on the Lakers is like Hoiberg on the Wolves, lmao.
btw: isnt this the topic that was "deleted"? LMAO.
That's true...but the big reason Lakers beat Wolves was BECuASE of malone...Twolves had no one to stop him. Gary or Kobe would drive and Malone would be left wide open to reciece a pass and score easy jump shots..AND HE ALMOST NEVER MISSES THOSE. I saw that over and over agian in that series, it was sad :'(
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Matter of fact Malone's Lakers eliminated Duncan's San Antonio and Garnett's Minnesota last year, thanx to Malone's defence. I didnt find it annoying, i've found it exciting. ;D
lol. the only difference is Duncan and Garnett OWN their teams, while the Lakers were owned by two players, and none of them was called Malone. Malone on the Lakers is like Hoiberg on the Wolves, lmao.
btw: isnt this the topic that was "deleted"? LMAO.
That's true...but the big reason Lakers beat Wolves was BECuASE of malone...Twolves had no one to stop him. Gary or Kobe would drive and Malone would be left wide open to reciece a pass and score easy jump shots..AND HE ALMOST NEVER MISSES THOSE. I saw that over and over agian in that series, it was sad :'(
Exactly. Old School is always better! ;)
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I wonder what's the odds of Rush playing point guard, 'cause my man is too good to be on the bench any longer, and I don't see him getting much playing time off Kobe.
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I wonder what's the odds of Rush playing point guard, 'cause my man is too good to be on the bench any longer, and I don't see him getting much playing time off Kobe.
There's more chances of Kobe running the point than Rush...When they play on the court at the same time, Kobe brings the ball up usually...PeACe
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With Rush, Odom (point forward) and Kobe (can run the point) on the floor i think there're no problems.
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either way. I think my man needs more time on the court. He has too much talent to sit there when we need a shooter on the court.
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The Lakers' Aug. 6 trade with Boston has been amended: Los Angeles receives Jumaine Jones instead of Marcus Banks, and the Celtics keep their 2005 second-round pick. All other terms are unchanged: The Lakers acquire Chris Mihm in a sign-and-trade deal, along with Chucky Atkins, in exchange for Gary Payton, Rick Fox and a future first-round pick.
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No Marcus Banks?? damn, my only reason to like the lakers ;D...well, I actually have to blame payton for not doing the physical ;D
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Now we have 18 SF, lol. Let's hope they'll make at least another trade, cause like that it's a tragedy. ;D
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The change they made Friday was really fucking whack...Why the hell did the Lakers agree to that?
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The change they made Friday was really fucking whack...Why the hell did the Lakers agree to that?
they had too..or i think veto the trade
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But wasn't the trade already done?
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But wasn't the trade already done?
shit, my bad...they did agree
No love from The Glove
All Gary Payton wants is a little respect. And maybe to play for a team other than the Celtics. After the Lakers traded Payton to Boston, the All-Star point guard was reportedly furious, did not show up for his required physical with his new team and, on Aug. 15, told the Riverside (Calif.) Press-Enterprise that he will quit if facing entering the Celtics' training camp in October. Payton said he didn't have anything against the Celtics, but that he felt the Lakers had failed to honor their agreement with him when Payton exercised his one-year $5.4 million contract option to continue to play in Los Angeles. A multi-player trade between the Lakers and Celtics was amended Aug. 13 after Payton refused to report to Boston for a physical by a deadline, the Lakers said. A Celtics spokesman said the team had agreed in advance to waive the requirement that Payton undergo a physical exam on Aug. 13. The amended trade will now give the Lakers 6-foot-8 forward Jumaine Jones instead of guard Marcus Banks, and the Celtics will no longer be required to give up its second-round draft choice. The Celtics expect Payton to report for training camp Oct. 4, a team spokesman said.
I guess the lakers already though about Payton not doing the physical..smart lol
and why they agreed to do that, i have no idea..you're a laker fan, figure it out!
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Well, the trade just went from being decent to being below decent...Lakers are fucking stupid, and if Payton plays for the Celtics, or ends up getting traded for some good players, they'll know it.
Chris Mihm, Chucky Atkins, & Jumain Jones??
Bring back The boy with the future (Marcus Banks), and our 2nd round pick damnit!...Jumain Jones is an underachiever, and played his worst season last year.
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Man, what happened is normal. I mean you have the Celtics who got Payton, Fox, cash and 1st round pick in return. But Fox wanted to retire (he will) and Payton refused to show up for his required physical menacing to retire. So they had to keep Banks (the only good PG left in their roster, with probably West), and trade another player, not a PG. Cause they had Payton menacing them to retire. Lakers accepted Jones, cause probably they wanted Mihm and Atkins from that trade, and didnt really care so much about Banks (trade was done, they couldnt have done nothing more). Banks, a Laker fan since he was 12, is furious at Celtics. He wanted to go to L.A.! But Boston now has only him as PG, and maybe West. So they cant trade him no more.
Trade is Chris Mihm, Chucky Atkins, & Jumain Jones to Lakers.
1st round pick and cash (2m $?) to Boston.
If you see it like that, Lakers won.
Still not a great deal. I mean the team is still incomplete. Mimh is a good back-up center, Atkins is a good back-up PG. Jones we dont need him. We miss 1 starting PG and possibly a 3pts shooter.
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No, because Payton wouldn't have retired if the Lakers would have kept him...Not sure about Fox retiring, he said he would retire last season, but he should finish off his career in Boston, where he started, and I think he will...As for Payton, I think Boston will trade him if he decides not to play...I doubt we'll see Payton retire, that's just a threat...So it's:
Gary Payton, Rick Fox, a 1st Round pick, & $2 mill+ to Boston for Chris Mihm, Chucky Atkins, & Jumain Jones...Like I said, the trade just went from decent to below decent...PeACe
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No homie. Only 2 teams where Payton could go are Los Angeles (Clippers?) and Golden State. But they arent interested.
Fox is discussing with Celtics how to get out the contract and retire. It's sure.
Payton didnt even fly to Boston yet, and he doesnt want to play no more for them.
Right now Boston has no players from this deal.
If they want to trade Payton now, every single team in the NBA knows Payton doesnt want to stay in Boston, so they know Celtics cant make big requests. And if you cant make big requests (like Lakers with Shaq), you never to a good deal. Plus, like I said, Payton want to stay in Cali.
I think he'll retire for real.
And even if Celtics trade him, there are 0% chances they'll get good players in return.
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There are more teams Payton wants to play for, including Houston.
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There are more teams Payton wants to play for, including Houston.
I've read he wants to stay in Cali or Vegas (but there are no NBA teams in Vegas. Yet), cause his kid is about to go to school, and he doesnt want to move from Cali (he has home in L.A., Oakland and Vegas).
Anyway Houston has just signed Bob Sura, Charlie Ward, and has Tyronne Lue as PG. They dont really need Payton IMO.
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Finally some good news for the Lakers. Kobe is pratically 99% safe from the criminal trial, and Malone 99% won't leave, playing another season. Atkins, Kobe, Odom, Malone, Divac + a lot of young guys in the bench can be enought to try to reach the playoffs.