West Coast Connection Forum
DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: Don Seer on October 03, 2002, 12:29:08 PM
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bpg's post made me think about how i've managed to stay on track for 4/5 years straight without veering off to other forms of music.
u cant stay in the same artist and area of a genre all the time... i switch around... i'll have a dre phase, a quik phase... a dpg phase... e-a-ski phase... whatever... all kinds sometimes just dwell on random stuff till summat comes up.
on straying from west coast shit well... i'll check out 'other coast' stuff too.. i listen to a lot of Pete Rock, Gang Starr, Nas and Biggie but i won't really bother checkin shit out too much if i dont like the look or sound of what i hear... e.g. jay-z... eww
like this at the moment... i'm bumping Self Scientific, Del, Heiro, people under the stairs (and buying more hehe) in case ya dont know... its all west coast shit... just not ya gangsta gangsta shiz... gotta find more like it... suggestions?
i will listen to other stuff.. i listen to my fair share of other music.. like indie rock and stuff from my room mate at work.. so i dont need to explore there coz i hear it all without even wanting to. My homies a DJ, he plays Jungle and Nu Skool Breakz, he plays every other week in clubs here. I'm always there whether it be in the club, or out buying tunes. So I know those scenes too.
share how ya'll keep it straight wc, without getting bored
ps.... peep "del feat hiero - burnt" second half of song is dope as fuck
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Well I was heavily into DPG/DEATHROW and all the mainstream/gangsta rap, but now Im getting into more unheard of artists like Richie Rich, AMG and RBX,
Kepp it strictly westcoast \V
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like this at the moment... i'm bumping Self Scientific, Del, Heiro, people under the stairs (and buying more hehe) in case ya dont know... its all west coast shit... just not ya gangsta gangsta shiz... gotta find more like it... suggestions?
Swollen Members God Damnit!! They tight with Del, Dialated, J5 and many many others. Alchemest, Evidence, Joey Chavez, Paul Nice, have all produced for them. CHECK THEM OUT!!
"Ventilate" is an amazing song.
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shoot 50% of my budget goes into music (the other 50 into my cars)
i just use the 3 cd method in my 3 cd stereo
i buy 2 new cd's from 2 different genres EX. David Bowie then something like Pantera....2 cd's i'm not familiar with then one familiar cd that keeps me grounded i listen to the david bowie one all the way through then the , familiar one (let's say efil4zaggin) then after that the Pantera one then the familiar one again just keep balance that's what i do
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King of Toronto
KARDINALL OFFISHAL, them and swollen are really puttin it down for us
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BLACKALICIOUS!!!!!! that group is so good and their ryhmes make sense get the album NIA and BLAZING ARROW
They are wetcoast 2 but it dont matter to them
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King of Toronto
KARDINALL OFFISHAL, them and swollen are really puttin it down for us
By us he means Canada, Swollen Members are from Vancouver, so they ARE westcoast too.
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dubee, jay tee, miami, baby beesh, blue ragg, c-knight, c-lim, perfec, lil' bruce, mac dre, darkside, amg, hi-c, do or die, celly cel, domino, coolio da unda dogg, killa tay, guce, pizzo, messy marv, don cisco, keak da sneak, 3xkrazy, young lay, young droop, ray luv, keita rock, luni coleone, skee 64, mac dre, andre nikatina, mc eiht, mobb figaz, mr. kee, paris, mr. short khop, playa hamm, RBL Possee, the mossie, rappin 4tay.
these guys are all dope westcoast gangsta rappers that get very little if any recognition on this board. So check any of them out.
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like this at the moment... i'm bumping Self Scientific, Del, Heiro, people under the stairs (and buying more hehe) in case ya dont know... its all west coast shit... just not ya gangsta gangsta shiz... gotta find more like it... suggestions?
You want West Coast (non-gangsta) Hip hop? Here goes...
Abstract Rude
Abstract Tribe Unique
Aceyalone
Automator (Dan "The Automator" Nakamura)
Beat Junkies ("The World Famous Beat Junkies")
Blackalicious
Casual
Colored Section
Coup
Defari
Del The Funky Homosapien
Dilated Peoples
DJ Q-Bert
Domino
Foreign Legion
Freestyle Fellowship
Hieroglyphics
Hobo Junction
Invisibl Skratch Piklz
Jurassic 5
Living Legends
Lootpack
MURS
Mystik Journeymen
Peanut Butter Wolf
Pep Love
Pharcyde
Phoenix Orion
Project Blowed
Projecto: 2501
Rasco
Self Scientific
Souls of Mischief
Swollen Members
Various Blends
;D
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ahhh yeah... i got some Freestyle Fellowship and Pharcyde will have to do some exploring ;D
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Phil Da Agony & King T (although he's kinda OG but not in an annoying way)
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I got some Jurassic 5 coming later today. i never really checked them out properly before.
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i never listened only to westcoast rap...i bump alot of trance, house, reaggee, metal and so on too...everything i like to hear.
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I own more westcoast material than anything else but I love all hip-hop, from every coast. It's just my major faves happen to come from the west and I do enjoy that whole sound the most, it doesn't necesserily have to be gangsta rap though, I find as i've gotten older i've become more interested in more concious types of hip-hop. I'm also a huge fan of RnB/Soul, but I don't really buy music from any other genre, simply 'cos I know they will be a waste of money because there's so much going on in hip-hop and RnB that I never get tired and never have felt the need to stray.
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It's the diversity of West Coast Hip Hop that keeps me from getting tired of it, from the gangsta shit to the underground artists, it helps to keep things fresh.
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Reggae & HipHop/Rap is the music i buy, but i listen to all kinds of music - I listen 2 whatever i think is good.
On the Reggae side - you all should give Alpha Blondy a try (i think most of u already did) cuz that some shit 2 lay back 2.
On the hiphop side - i know that most of u americans are kinda sceptic 2 Swedish hiphop, i dont know why but... i mean i listen alot 2 Mc Solaar even if i cant understand shit of what he´s saying (d/l "Hasta La Vista" oooooweee!!!)
So i dont think that u dislike it cuz u dont understand Swedish, but damn listen 2 the beats, cuz most of the hiphop from sweden from 92-2000 is str8 westcoast man, and i happen 2 know many of u like to listen 2 beats with a rapper that flows good - well u got it right here in Sweden.
Give theese a try:
Infinite Mass - Area turns red
Latin Kings - Gussen
Looptroop - Long arm of the law
Petter feat. Looptroop - Top Dogz
Infinite Mass - Caught up in da game
Latin Kings - Borta i tankar
Fjärde Världen - Riktiga Proffs (This beat kicks azz, kinda like Slam harder by ONYX)
Latin Kings - Mitt kvarter
Latin Kings - Skön våg
Infinte Mass - Mah boys
This is the songs with a REAL G-FUNK feel to them, you will LOVE theese beats, guaranteed - period.
Give them a try it takes about 10 minutes of your time.
Peace
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i'm bumping Jurassic 5 - Quality Control right now.. i recognise some of it so the homie neckio must have played it when i used to share an office with him.
i've heard some swedish stuff (thanks to exzit) Infinite Mass is ok, Ro-Cee is very funny. (i've only heard getting all the babes')
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I got through the whole morning at work with that Del song 'burnt' on repeat :)
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i'm bumping Jurassic 5 - Quality Control right now.. i recognise some of it so the homie neckio must have played it when i used to share an office with him.
i've heard some swedish stuff (thanks to exzit) Infinite Mass is ok, Ro-Cee is very funny. (i've only heard getting all the babes')
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I got through the whole morning at work with that Del song 'burnt' on repeat :)
Hey Overseer, listen: take 10 minutes of your time and d/l ALL theese songs cuz u really missing something if u dont.
Hit me back right here if you DO take the time to d/l it.
If theese beats werent something special, i wouldnt tell u to d/l that shit cuz i hate when people do that to me, ya know: Hey Yo Rob d/l this shit, its off the hook!!! And then it turns out to be nothing special ya know.
Peace
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i've heard some swedish stuff (thanks to exzit) Infinite Mass is ok, Ro-Cee is very funny. (i've only heard getting all the babes')
;D ..im hookin ya azz up! ;)
Ro-Cee is takin the gangsta shit all the way..lol.. its funny, and its tight.. good production ;D
all the tracks rob said is dope... éxcept fjärde världen, the beat is pretty weak, and i just dont like them.. :D
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i'm bumping Jurassic 5 - Quality Control right now...
Quality Control is a classic album!!! I haven't checked out Power In Numbers yet, but J5's EP is also really dope.
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For west coast hip hop I would recommend The Coup. Especially check out tracks like: "Fat Cats, Bigga Fish", "Santa Rita Weekend", and "Me and Jesus the Pimp in a '79 Granada Last Night".
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West Coast Underground Gangsta Rap is kinda boring. They dont really have much to offer, a few banging beats here and now, and some of them have a nice style (X-Raided) but on the whole, they wack. Underground West Coast music, along the lines of Jurassic 5 & Ras Kass are a lot better. They have dope lyrics, a better message and overall they make better music.
The west is still way behind the East Coast though, East Coast has taken over the West since about 1996. The East arent renowned for their amazing beats, but they are on a higher level lyrically, and thats what makes them better. The West has too much of a gangsta image, its boring and played. Eastcoast is way more diverse, even their commercial artists are dope as fuck (Nas on Stillmatic, Illmatic, It Was Written), and they still got the tight underground heads (Chino XL).
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I keep shit together by stayin open minded and takin in hip hop from all sides. For the most part.. Im a Westcoast head.. and tend to get stuck on certain songs. Like for instance. Here is whats in my Compaq iPaq that I bump when at work.. or when I used to take the bus daily..
Big Lurch Feat. Roger Jr. - Wanna Take You Home
Onyx - Gangsta
2Pac And Spice 1 - 1 Day At A Time
2Pac - Hell For A Hustla (Mike Dean Mix)
Kurupt And WC - Gangsta Shit
Daz And Kurupt - So Lonely
Outlawz - Breakin The Rules
Outlawz - Hennessey And Weed
Mista CaNE - Almost Famous
Mista CaNE - Now We Begin
Mista CaNE - Do It
Bone Thugs - Cleveland
Dana Dane - Once Again (Battlecat)
Goldie Loc - Groove On
Kay Cavie Feat. Kokane - Baller Product
Vol 10 Feat. Kokane - Stick Yourself
This is just a list of songs that Ive been stuck on for a while. But when I need to break the mold.. I did through my Eastcoast archives and pull out:
Any Bootcamp Clique album (have the whole catalog OG)
Any Nas Album - Ive been feelin him alot more lately
The Kreators Out Of Boston.. HOT AS Hell.. they did a song with Guru
Old School Pete Rock And CL Smooth.
Old School Gangstarr - Whos Gonna Take The Weight.. (my old jam)
I even got some ooooold shit:
Super Lover C And Cassanova Rud - Girls I Got Em Locked
so alot of times I just keep my ears open really. Ive been into alot of
Defari
lately.. Peanut Butter Wolf.. etc. Loot Pack and the entire Stones Throw label. Mad Lib and the crew.
Im into all that kinda shit. Rass.. Mikah 9 and The Freestyle Fellowship. The Wascals and Quinton. LA Symphony.. and solo Fat Lip shit. Been into all that lately. Pz.
Axle
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laugh if u will ............ i know a lot of u all like micheal jackson so u can't really laugh at me :D
but check out almost any album by PRINCE hes amazing , he even inspired me to go and learn musical instuments ... the best albums i have heard by him anyway are the "Symbol" one thats the one with My name is Prince and Sexy Muthafucker on it lol ... and of course "Purple Rain"
if u like music esp hiphop u should check out symbol coz it has a hip hop influnce + guitars .. its very cool 8) laugh if u will ...
i don't listen to Prince to stay cool ... ;D
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laugh if u will ............ i know a lot of u all like micheal jackson so u can't really laugh at me :D
but check out almost any album by PRINCE hes amazing , he even inspired me to go and learn musical instuments ... the best albums i have heard by him anyway are the "Symbol" one thats the one with My name is Prince and Sexy Muthafucker on it lol ... and of course "Purple Rain"
if u like music esp hiphop u should check out symbol coz it has a hip hop influnce + guitars .. its very cool 8) laugh if u will ...
i don't listen to Prince to stay cool ... ;D
Aint nobody laughin big homie.. Thats props in my book. Prince is a legend. Hella tight post.
Ax
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U cant go wrong with a bit of MJ in ure stereo every know and then. He is the only artist that is non hip hop that i listen too.
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Aint nobody laughin big homie.. Thats props in my book. Prince is a legend. Hella tight post.
Ax
I was bout to say the same thing. Prince is an amazing talent, alot of other great artists have spawned from what he created back in the day.
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About this topic, i myself have never been a complete westcoast head..........but the westcoast is what made me LOVE HIP HOP........before the Chronic, Doggystyle, and Regulate, i was only into Naughty, Public Enemy, and a couple others (i was only like 12), but when i heard Snoop, it brought me into a whole different world. From there, i just researched back the westcoast and got into NWA and Eazy and all that, and then branched out into people like MC EIHT, too SHort, RAS KASS, and SPice 1. After that, i got into the eastcoast, mainly thorugh Gangstarr, Wu Tang, and Nas.....then for awhile i stopped feeling the westcoast (except Ras) for a while as i thought NAS outclassed anyone i had heard (I soon realized there is room for all kinds of music however)......now, i can get into anything and i have a huge selection of hiphop over a very broad range. To me, if you stay stuck in just purely westcoast, you won't appreciate it as much or give yourslef a chance to grow........
AXLE: that's dope you got all the BOOT CAMP albums (u feeling there new one), and that u down with Pete & CL......i never knew you were into the east like that(it was much better back then). also, that is a dope list of songs you dropped, i was surprised how good Mista Cane is, and i also got the PAC/spice 1 track, and it may replace Jealous Got Me Strapped as my fav. Pac/Spice track.........thanks man
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About this topic, i myself have never been a complete westcoast head..........but the westcoast is what made me LOVE HIP HOP........before the Chronic, Doggystyle, and Regulate, i was only into Naughty, Public Enemy, and a couple others (i was only like 12), but when i heard Snoop, it brought me into a whole different world. From there, i just researched back the westcoast and got into NWA and Eazy and all that, and then branched out into people like MC EIHT, too SHort, RAS KASS, and SPice 1. After that, i got into the eastcoast, mainly thorugh Gangstarr, Wu Tang, and Nas.....then for awhile i stopped feeling the westcoast (except Ras) for a while as i thought NAS outclassed anyone i had heard (I soon realized there is room for all kinds of music however)......now, i can get into anything and i have a huge selection of hiphop over a very broad range. To me, if you stay stuck in just purely westcoast, you won't appreciate it as much or give yourslef a chance to grow........
AXLE: that's dope you got all the BOOT CAMP albums (u feeling there new one), and that u down with Pete & CL......i never knew you were into the east like that(it was much better back then). also, that is a dope list of songs you dropped, i was surprised how good Mista Cane is, and i also got the PAC/spice 1 track, and it may replace Jealous Got Me Strapped as my fav. Pac/Spice track.........thanks man
Thanks alot TeeCee. I would have added that Jealus Got Me Strapped (..bust'in mutha fuckaz.. wit my back against the wall.. uugg) but I've played that song OUT! So now its One Day At A Time. Songs with an emotional feel. Thats kinda what Im workin with now ah dayz.
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Yea.. Ive been a big Boot Camp fan since Who Got The Props. Most dissed the Coco Brovaz album.. but I loved it. I thought the addition of Boogie Brown as a producer was the right move. Most BCC fans hated the change from the Beatminerz sound.. Boogie Brown did alot of production that Boot Camp comp For The People. Mad "bumpplez" on that album. I just downloaded the rip.. but want to wait until I get the OG this afternoon before listening to it. Im hopin that they push this dude named "Swan" to the forefront. He killed it on The BDI album on a track called "Ill Be DAMMED" Woooo thats a heater. Check that TeeCee and holla back with some feedback for me. Id be interested in hearing your opinion. If you need any of their albums, holla.. I know that your good for buyin the OG. Pz.
Axle
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Ax... you mention Stones Throw... i guess you know Breakestra.. i'm a big fan ;D
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Ax... you mention Stones Throw... i guess you know Breakestra.. i'm a big fan ;D
OH FA SHO!!
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I got this EP OG and its bangin
Got me excited there O'Seer. Thats some real deep shit.
Link to purchase: (its in stock too. so pull out your credit card and ORDER IT)
http://cdnow.com/switch/from=cr-9635397-1/target=buyweb_purchase/itemid=1492922
Axle
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Thanks Axle, appreciate it man.......i am downloading the song off the BDI album right now, and i might have to take you up on your offer for some BCC albums, i have a couple but not everything, just the early classics......
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Thanks Axle, appreciate it man.......i am downloading the song off the BDI album right now, and i might have to take you up on your offer for some BCC albums, i have a couple but not everything, just the early classics......
Yea.. no doubt TeeCee. Check that song and pay attention to Swan. Hes so fuckin Ill. Mad slept on and under rated. Holla on the music. Doors always open. Pz.
Ax
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yeah i got that on 7 inch and CD - hehe
also got their album, but i still only have an mp3 of 'the live mixtape part 1' coz thats rare as hell
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Hate if you will..but
What is Real hip-hop, the discription of real-hip-hop is always a very wack debate considering that Real Hip-hop music was created by spinning two records of popular music and making song's that gave life to a party. So in Essence Hip-hop music is feel good music aswell as tales of streetlife.
Both genres of music can survive in the world of Hip-hop.
"Pop music Fucked The Street's and made a baby Called Rap music"
So ImO
This whole "Underground" discussion is played out..
It's just an excuse for peep's who haven't gotten a record contract wit' a major. Cause seriously who want's to struggle in their field....ImO nobody.
I'm not talkin' about money.....cause some of these underground catz be making more money than major's....no doubt......but money anin't shitt if no-one know's u....in this business. ImO
Alot of very impressive talent is considered "Underground" but let's just talk the real the real.....Underground just means they haven't made it or gotten famous yet.
Because as soon as they sign wit' a major or have decent production yall' hate on them.....remember Xzibit.
The biggest trip for me tho is......how can you claim to love "Underground" hip hop and claim pop music fucked up the game, when this sound brought you into hip-hop in the first place....lol {Issued towards those who started to listen to hip-hop after 97-98}
Fuck it who cares..
Hatesrats 2oo2
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I've never heard Boot Camp before; what do they sound like? How many of their albums does Hi-Tek produce on?