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Title: Man Vs Machine: My Opinion
Post by: Lil Jay on September 30, 2002, 11:57:26 PM
ANYONE SAYING THAT MAN VS MACHINE IS BETTER THAN RESTLESS NEEDS TO SEE A FUCKIN DOCTOR.

ON THE REAL, RESTLESS WAS A CLASSIC COMPARED TO THIS TRASH. I bought it yesterday and im l very disapointed, the best tracks are Mutliply, Losin your Mind and What A MEss (a song which is not even on every version of the album, how could they put that song on a fuckin bonus cd).

first off, most beats are pretty weak and boring, thers not one song that made me go  :o  like a lot of songs on Restless. Think about it, restless had songs like Get your Walk on, X, Alkaholik, Sorry Im Away So Much, Best Of Things etc etc. if i want to bump a banger i have to bump multiply and its kinda sad that this song is almost the best song on the album cause Im already tired of it.

Alot of hooks are horrible (Symphony In X Major, MIssin U, Choke Me Spank Me)

And lyrics on a different level my ass. they are not better than restless im0

Maybe its just me or somthing cause this might sound like Im hatin on X, but i have not lost respect for X and gave him a chance like everyone else and bought his album, but like I said, im disappointed. Thats just my opinion and im sure some ppl will agree
Title: Re: Man Vs Machine: My Opinion
Post by: Don Seer on October 01, 2002, 12:12:04 AM
i'm pretty much with that.... shits got the 'taste' of all Dre's recent soundy-likey works all over.. even though he didnt produce it all its got his finger prints all over it.

i bought it yest, i didnt download the retail rip this time... probably coz i couldnt be bothered since i was disappointed with the advance... i listened to about 4 tracks at work, nearly didnt bother bringing it back in to listen to the rest..

its quite similar to restless.. restless had a bit more 'shine'... this is a continuation of the worst parts of restlesss.

Multiply, My Name, Symphony in X Major only songs that make my head move
best beat IMO is Release Date

Break Yourself is kinda ok

Heart Of Man sounds like X wanna be Nas... Nas even sampled the same song (Toto - Africa) on Nastradamus.
actually 'harder' (the golden state track) does a bit too



can you say "luke warm reception" ....  :-/
Title: Re: Man Vs Machine: My Opinion
Post by: Kill on October 01, 2002, 12:18:40 AM
I was very sure I'd get that album, but there's so much tite shit around...I think since everybody says it's a disappointment (u ain't the only ones) I won't cop it, doesn't seem to be worth it. Very sad, Xzibit's one of my fav west coast acts, but every album seems to be worse than the last one...:-/
Title: Re: Man Vs Machine: My Opinion
Post by: Myrealname on October 01, 2002, 12:20:17 AM
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ANYONE SAYING THAT MAN VS MACHINE IS BETTER THAN RESTLESS NEEDS TO SEE A FUCKIN DOCTOR.

ON THE REAL, RESTLESS WAS A CLASSIC COMPARED TO THIS TRASH.
And lyrics on a different level my ass. they are not better than restless im0



I've steal the album this morning from a record store and i'm kinda glad cuz its fuckin wack!!!
Of course,for JOME this album is a classic  ::)
Title: Re: Man Vs Machine: My Opinion
Post by: gFuNkA on October 01, 2002, 12:40:05 AM
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...the best tracks are Mutliply, Losin your Mind and What A MEss (a song which is not even on every version of the album, how could they put that song on a fuckin bonus cd).


...these are by far the best tracks on the album....i agree with your whole post.
Title: Re: Man Vs Machine: My Opinion
Post by: Kill on October 01, 2002, 01:10:10 AM
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I've steal the album this morning

good idea
Title: Re: Man Vs Machine: My Opinion
Post by: CharlieBrown on October 01, 2002, 01:11:20 AM
I was surpirsed by how good it was, as everyone was saying it was complete shit. The first half of the album is probably the best 1st half of an album so far this year, and you know you wanna see a hype williams directed video for Losin' Your Mind.
Title: Re: Man Vs Machine: My Opinion
Post by: Myrealname on October 01, 2002, 01:13:01 AM
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The first half of the album is probably the best 1st half of an album so far this year.

U are joking ?
Ah ah ah.
THIS ALBUM IS PURE TRASH ! ! ! ! !
SAVE THE MONEY FOR W.C. GHETTO HEISMEN ! ! !
Title: Re: Man Vs Machine: My Opinion
Post by: Kill on October 01, 2002, 01:58:15 AM
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I was surpirsed by how good it was, as everyone was saying it was complete shit. The first half of the album is probably the best 1st half of an album so far this year, and you know you wanna see a hype williams directed video for Losin' Your Mind.

That'd mean it's really dope, fuck the 2nd half

A few dope albums that came out this year:

Nappy Roots - Watermelon, Chicken N Gritz
Tech9ne - Absolute Power
Gravediggaz - Nightmare In A Minor
X-Raided & Kingpen - City Of Kings: The Sac-A-Indo Projects
Cormega - The True Meaning
Mr. Lif - Emergency Rations
Onyx - Bacdafucup Part II
50 Cent - Guess Who's Back

and there's many more
Title: Re: Man Vs Machine: My Opinion
Post by: Don Seer on October 01, 2002, 06:35:15 AM
just an update.... i listened to the whole album on repeat alll day long  :o

i couldnt do that with restless... doesnt mean its better though.


Title: Re: Man Vs Machine: My Opinion
Post by: Desoto Loco on October 01, 2002, 11:45:24 AM
i dont like the album dat much, too much trashy bullshit on it with too much sing sang bitches on the hooks and in the bacc.
Restless is a classic compared to this wack album. I can listen to it, but it aint grimey like restless.
Title: Re: Man Vs Machine: My Opinion
Post by: KURUPTION-81 on October 01, 2002, 12:43:04 PM
Ive listened to it a few times now and its as if there is something missing from it. I f u no what i mean .
Title: Re: Man Vs Machine: My Opinion
Post by: ROCCY on October 01, 2002, 12:43:13 PM
damn, fuck that then I aint gonna buy this shit..this is disappointing waiting soo long for an album to drop, and what do u know, its whack...peace
Title: Re: Man Vs Machine: My Opinion
Post by: DPGC2001 on October 01, 2002, 04:14:03 PM
I'm glad I didn't buy this shit...I wouldn't call it trash there are 3 or 4 dope cuts on it but it definitely ain't worth buying...
Title: Re: Man Vs Machine: My Opinion
Post by: Suga Foot on October 01, 2002, 04:27:31 PM
I think it's growin on me, and will continue to grow on me.
Title: Re: Man Vs Machine: My Opinion
Post by: Doggystylin on October 01, 2002, 04:39:29 PM
It definitely aint worth my money, im sad that i have to say this but, im not gonna buy this bullshit
Title: Re: Man Vs Machine: My Opinion
Post by: Hatesrats™ on October 01, 2002, 04:42:12 PM

ImO
It's a tight Cd....
Trust me homies, u have to use your own judgement on this one....and try it for yourself instead of letting peep's push u into liking or/disliking it.

For the Kiddies...Eminem Has a track on this one that will absolutly blow your mind away!!!!!!
His awsome jaw dropping lyrics will make you say WHOA!!
He goes at it again in typical Comedy Eminem fashion by rippin' at heavyweight's such as Moby, Jd & Kriss Kross just to name a few. His production is top knotch and has many saying....Dre WHo!! (Although this track is very reminicent of every song On The Eminem Show)
If you copp one lp this year.....after you buy your third copy of "The Eminem Show" be sure to support the other artist on Aftermath.. ;D

But fo real...ImO
It's got a lot of shitt on here that will make u press rewind and listen to it again, cause this Cd seem's to get better after every spin.
The bonus Cd has some tight song's on there that make u wonder why the fuck they left "My Name" & "Bk to LA" on there instead :P.
Other than those dissapointing track's, it pretty much give's u Xzibit doing his thing.

OnE
Hatesrats 2oo2
Title: Re: Man Vs Machine: My Opinion
Post by: BL7 on October 01, 2002, 05:20:16 PM
Damn, y'all are being harsh. :o This album ain't as good as "Restless" but it still has enough bangers for me.



Peace
Title: Re: Man Vs Machine: My Opinion
Post by: platinumk777 on October 01, 2002, 05:57:27 PM
Wow, what the fuck are you guys expecting from X anyway? IMO, this album is pretty good... Restless was better, but MvsM got some tite singles (Multiply, My Name, Heart Of man, Where It Hurts).
Sure, this CD definitely ain't livin up to what X said (this is his best CD yet apparently)... I never felt his first 2 CDs, so Restless is still my fav.

Another thing though... to me, this CD didn't live up to Restless also because back then, I considered X to be a str8 gangsta, and his lyrics used to blow me away, cause I felt they were real. Now that I know X is a str8 bitch, and knowing all the bullshit he's spittin in this CD, I wasn't able to feel him on a personal level, ya feel me? I hope my shit is makin sense here.
Title: Re: Man Vs Machine: My Opinion
Post by: Jome on October 01, 2002, 07:03:04 PM
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I've steal the album this morning from a record store and i'm kinda glad cuz its fuckin wack!!!
Of course,for JOME this album is a classic  ::)



SHUT UP BITCH!!
I haven't even got the album yet, so stop starting shit over nothing.
But I guess that's what tricks do..
Title: Re: Man Vs Machine: My Opinion
Post by: Twentytwofifty on October 02, 2002, 08:45:12 AM
I stayed away from every MVM thread and the temptation of that whole album just waiting in mIRC.  I only listened to "Multiply" so I could listen to every song for the first time on the first listen of the album.  

Went to the store to pick it up.  And it turns out it's getting released OCT 8! (Canada)

So I said fuck it.  And downloading it.

And now I decided to pick one of the 126 threads about this topic to respond to.  First of, for those who picked this up from the store, what's this CD#2 nonsense?  Did the album come with a "bonus" CD that they decided to put the Primo and Rockwilder tracks on it?  That is stupid.

Now I heard the rumors about the album being a letdown.  And after two listens I'm not too happy.  But this sure sounds like an album that will grow on you and i'll probably end up giving it a 8/10.

Also, what's with these fucking skits, I couldn't even listen to the last one the whole way thru the first time.  Skits are pointless and just become fast-forward material after one listen.

P.S.  I loved Restless, only 2 of 16 I didn't like that much.  I think it is a banging album.

TIP: Never take any pre-album hype ("I'm taking this to the next level", "This is going to be my best album yet") seriously, it happends all the time and then they make an excuse after it's released if it's a disappointment.
Title: Re: Man Vs Machine: My Opinion
Post by: That_Cracka_J on October 02, 2002, 09:08:54 AM
I listened to the first two tracks (Release date, Symphony in X major) and I was like, "Damn, this is gonna be a tight CD!"  Was I wrong.....Of course there's a couple other bangers (My name, Multiply), but overall this album is a HUGE disappointment to me.
Title: Re: Man Vs Machine: My Opinion
Post by: Murrow on October 02, 2002, 09:58:30 AM
After listening through the album once...

Something is definitley missing.  I don't know what it is yet.

I don't think the beats are as tight as "Restless."  Dre wasn't tight on this one like he was on the last one.  "Say My Name" is better than "Don't Approach Me," but "Front 2 Back" is better than "Release Date."  "Symphony In X Major" has a wack chorus.

Good thing Battlecat or Quik are not on this album cause they do not go with X's style.

I'm not sure @ the moment...but this album is just like what I expected..."Restless Part II."   :-/
Title: Re: Man Vs Machine: My Opinion
Post by: LAZY on October 02, 2002, 07:08:40 PM
i think its a tite cd but i havnt compared it 2 restless and the first half is tite and the second half is like ehhhhhhh and i agree with every1 that says theres sumthin missin cuz i think there is 2 and wuts up with the bonus cd? why arnt those song son the real cd? cuz those songs r tite
Title: Re: Man Vs Machine: My Opinion
Post by: Myrealname on October 03, 2002, 09:11:10 AM
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Good thing Battlecat or Quik are not on this album cause they do not go with X's style.
/

"Sorry im away so much" is a good song with a fuckin tight beat from dj quik!
Title: Re: Man Vs Machine: My Opinion
Post by: Jome on October 03, 2002, 05:08:17 PM
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"Sorry im away so much" is a good song with a fuckin tight beat from dj quik!


::) You're a Xzibit-hater so you really can't tell..
X is to rugged for Quik's & Battlecats beats.
Title: Re: Man Vs Machine: My Opinion
Post by: That_Cracka_J on October 03, 2002, 05:13:44 PM
I think X sounded good on "Sorry I'm away so much".
Title: Re: Man Vs Machine: My Opinion
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on October 05, 2002, 03:18:41 PM
The album is dope...Not amazing, but it's dope...Definently worth the money...PeACe
Title: Re: Man Vs Machine: My Opinion
Post by: bez on October 05, 2002, 03:50:49 PM
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The album is dope...Not amazing, but it's dope...Definently worth the money...PeACe

agreed. Good album, I would defo buy it if I didnt already have it burned. lol.  Buta good albums with dope beats and good lyrics.
Title: Re: Man Vs Machine: My Opinion
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on October 05, 2002, 04:46:57 PM
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agreed. Good album, I would defo buy it if I didnt already have it burned. lol.  Buta good albums with dope beats and good lyrics.



you should still buy it...
Title: Re: Man Vs Machine: My Opinion
Post by: bez on October 06, 2002, 01:50:25 AM
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you should still buy it...

Fuck that. lol.

If I had the money I would.  maybe if that cunts had the albums at like 5 qwid instead of 10 then I would buy it.
Title: Re: Man Vs Machine: My Opinion
Post by: Myrealname on October 06, 2002, 02:57:27 AM
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::) You're a Xzibit-hater so you really can't tell..
X is to rugged for Quik's beats.

Ah ah.Ok Choke Me, Spank Me pull my hair  ::)  ::)  ::)
Title: Re: Man Vs Machine: My Opinion
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on October 06, 2002, 08:23:37 AM
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::) You're a Xzibit-hater so you really can't tell..
X is to rugged for Quik's & Battlecats beats.





You really dont know your shit..."Sorry I'm Away So Much" and "Get Your Walk on" are two of the best songs on 'Restless'...
Title: Re: Man Vs Machine: My Opinion
Post by: Myrealname on October 06, 2002, 08:34:02 AM
Yeah,go to eat some crustaceans Jome!
Title: Re: Man Vs Machine: My Opinion
Post by: Jome on October 06, 2002, 09:04:36 AM
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You really dont know your shit..."Sorry I'm Away So Much" and "Get Your Walk on" are two of the best songs on 'Restless'...


::)

Get yo walk on is tite, but that's because BC didn't have much to do with it. It's far from a BC-beat.
And don't talk about me not knowing my shit, you're the one making up things all the time.
Title: Re: Man Vs Machine: My Opinion
Post by: teecee on October 06, 2002, 09:13:12 AM
Yo, Jome is right, GEt YO WALK ON is hardly a Battlecat track, cuz there is no clap track for the drums.  It sounds like nothing he has ever done before, it had to be mostly Mel Man, although whoever did it that beat was incredible.  AS for Xzibit, he is not too rugged for DJ QUIK beats, i thought besides Get YO Walk On, Sorry Im Away So Much was the best song on Restless.  Most Xzibit fans just think Xzibit sucks if he is not spitting his hardest, but then what do you think of FOundation?  If anything, i thought Quik brought out the best in Xzibit, and if it wasn't for that track then Restless would've been all about bitches, cwalking (ha ha), drugs n alcohol, and whatever else he was saying.....

Imagine if Xzibit would've had John DOe to spit over?  THat woulfd've been the shit, he would've wrecked that beat
Title: Re: Man Vs Machine: My Opinion
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on October 06, 2002, 05:05:43 PM
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::)

Get yo walk on is tite, but that's because BC didn't have much to do with it. It's far from a BC-beat.
And don't talk about me not knowing my shit, you're the one making up things all the time.





You saying BC didn't have much to do with "Get Yo Walk On" is the same as me saying Dre probably had something to do with the production of "Multiply"...Battlecat got 50% of the credit for that beat...PeACe
Title: Re: Man Vs Machine: My Opinion
Post by: Sikotic™ on October 06, 2002, 05:13:03 PM
I think M vs M is better than Restless and no I don't need a doctor.

I think M vs M is way more consistent than Restless. There's not one song on M vs M that I can not absolutely stand. Restless had some songs I couldn't take without skipping like DNA and a couple others.

However, both Restless and Man Vs. Machine are weak albums and not up to par to X's albums when he rolled with tha Liks and King T. Maybe he should go back to his roots.
Title: Re: Man Vs Machine: My Opinion
Post by: Jome on October 06, 2002, 05:46:44 PM
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You saying BC didn't have much to do with "Get Yo Walk On" is the same as me saying Dre probably had something to do with the production of "Multiply"...Battlecat got 50% of the credit for that beat...PeACe



1: Listen to "Get yo walk on"
2: Listen to 100 other Battlecat beats.
3: Please don't say that "Get yo walk on" sounds like a Battlecat beat.
Title: Re: Man Vs Machine: My Opinion
Post by: PLANT on October 06, 2002, 05:53:20 PM
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Another thing though... to me, this CD didn't live up to Restless also because back then, I considered X to be a str8 gangsta, and his lyrics used to blow me away, cause I felt they were real. Now that I know X is a str8 bitch, and knowing all the bullshit he's spittin in this CD, I wasn't able to feel him on a personal level, ya feel me? I hope my shit is makin sense here.

most definatly.
Title: Re: Man Vs Machine: My Opinion
Post by: Dominator on October 06, 2002, 07:27:39 PM
i also think MVM is better than Restless..

.. release date is a great way to start an album

symphony in x major is a good track.. INCLUDING the chorus.. it fits well..

multiply is average

hearts of man is excellent..

harder fucking THUMPS in the car.. and i really like the hook.. one of my favorites on the album.

break yourself is also good now that i think of it..

and i really liked choke me, spank me, (pull my hair) .. it's really different..

my name is dope

and gambler has really grown on me the last few days..

the more i listen to this album.. the more i like it..

i've never really been too big a fan of xzibit before.. X, Get your walk on, his shit on 2001 and Bitch Please II were the only tracks i was feeling.. and when i read that pretty much all of wcc thought the album was wack.. i wasn't going to get it.. but i ended up grabbing it... and i'm glad i did..

buying it today.

my 2 cents.

Peace.
Dominator.

Title: Re: Man Vs Machine: My Opinion
Post by: Myrealname on October 06, 2002, 07:35:14 PM
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::) You're a Xzibit-hater so you really can't tell..
X is to rugged for Quik's & Battlecats beats.


How can u say X is too rugged for dj quik's beats ? ? ?
Have u ever heard more than 1 beat from dj quik ?
::)                               ::)                               ::)
Title: Re: Man Vs Machine: My Opinion
Post by: Sir Hambone on October 07, 2002, 06:53:12 AM
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ANYONE SAYING THAT MAN VS MACHINE IS BETTER THAN RESTLESS NEEDS TO SEE A FUCKIN DOCTOR.

ON THE REAL, RESTLESS WAS A CLASSIC COMPARED TO THIS TRASH. I bought it yesterday and im l very disapointed, the best tracks are Mutliply, Losin your Mind and What A MEss (a song which is not even on every version of the album, how could they put that song on a fuckin bonus cd).

first off, most beats are pretty weak and boring, thers not one song that made me go  :o  like a lot of songs on Restless. Think about it, restless had songs like Get your Walk on, X, Alkaholik, Sorry Im Away So Much, Best Of Things etc etc. if i want to bump a banger i have to bump multiply and its kinda sad that this song is almost the best song on the album cause Im already tired of it.

Alot of hooks are horrible (Symphony In X Major, MIssin U, Choke Me Spank Me)

And lyrics on a different level my ass. they are not better than restless im0

Maybe its just me or somthing cause this might sound like Im hatin on X, but i have not lost respect for X and gave him a chance like everyone else and bought his album, but like I said, im disappointed. Thats just my opinion and im sure some ppl will agree



took the words right out of my mouth........

i like the bonus CD better......and the Em, and X song....and thats about it......X----go back to the drawing board....damn, how long did it take for him to make this CD????    and this is what he gave us....sigh...


wait wait wait....i know what it is......i believe he said he gave up smokin and drinkin right?????? so since u gave that up...it messed up his thinking and rhyme skillz cause his body was adjustin....yeah..thats got to be it!!!


will someone please get X a Phat AZZ Blunt please!!!!
Title: Re:Man Vs Machine: My Opinion
Post by: action jackson on October 15, 2002, 12:46:05 AM
All you muthafuckaz need to say is Xzibit is a fuccin sell out biatch!!  He sold his sold to the devil in the hope of pickin up some east coast sales.  That's why the rest of the likwit crew ain't down with him.  He went hollywood like dre and left the people that put him on.  If he would have recorded this album with the likwit crew in the studio and not dre's vaseline buddies the album would have turned out cool because he would have had to step it up lyrically and beat wise when fuckin with the likwit crew.