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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: mellowman on October 03, 2002, 06:56:15 PM
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"Don't believe the hype" is a relatively small phrase, but it means something much bigger. I came on here to post a q and a topic a few times over the last few months, but each time i did I read in amazement a lot of comments that I couldn't believe. I would be too mad to post so I would just log off and get back to making music. this is a forum to talk about music and the artists you supposedly love so much. unfortunately, way too many ignorant motherfuckers use this forum to judge people and situations they know nothing about. a lot of you harshly judge people you don't know. a lot of you make these judgements based on lies and rumours. if you don't know the truth don't speak on it or make a personal attack on someone. Some of you need to burn your hip hop magazines, take a baseball bat to your computer and do something positive. DON'T BELIEVE THE HYPE. I have respect for many members of this board, past and present. You know who you are. Some of you other people need to grow the fuck up. a lot of people on this board and running websites and forums, gossip and lie and make judgements based on that gossip and lies. some of y'all are worse than little old ladies in a small town. you believe everything you read or hear and run with it. DON'T BELIEVE THE HYPE. A lot of the people starting these rumors and lies are mad, jealous and are trying to ruin a good thing and break families apart. Unfortunately, they are sometimes succeeding. and its not just fans. hip hop is in a world of hurt cause so many of its artists are so fucking stupid, big ego punk motherfuckers who have no idea what respect means, much less how a real man acts and talks and treats others. Its hard enough with politicians and media people like Bill o'reilly constantly trying to criticize and protest rap. But to see the artists themselves destroying rap makes me mad. If i wasn't working for Dre I would have got out of this shit a few years ago. The fact that Dre, the Aftermath staff and most of his artists are trying to do positive things and do things the right way is the only reason I'm still in this hip hop game (along with a chance to change things for the good on OH MY GOD and Detox). Believe me if Dre wasn't doing things the right way i wouldn't be on his team. I just read earlier a topic tearing dre apart saying he was a "big headed nerd". I ask you, have you ever sat down and talked to Dre? Do you really know anything about him? If the answer is no, shut the fuck up. Dr. Dre the character you hear on a record is not the man named Andre Young. Dr. Dre has the proven track record to brag about what he has done. No one in hip hop has ever done the things he's done, had the success he has had and helped develop as many stars as he has. So of course the Dre you hear on wax is gonna brag a little. At least he ain't disrespecting anyone or constantly shoving his 150 million dollar net worth in the listeners face. Plus Dre's only dropping a few guest spots here and there. He ain't gonna talk about much too deep. If you knew Andre Young you would have the utmost respect for him as a man, father, husband, artist and friend. Don't assume that he is an arrogant big headed motherfucker who thinks he is better than anyone else just because its on a song. The Andre Young I know is a VERY humble human being. Yeah he's a tough boss, yeah he pisses me off once in a while, yeah he frustrates me with his perfectionism and all the mind blowing unreleased tracks he locks away, and yeah he is a long way from perfect. but he has always treated me with respect and is now a loyal friend. You don't see what i see or know what i know. And unlike 99% of these coward punks out there, if Dre has a problem with me or anyone else he addresses those problems by confronting me face to face, looking me in eye and we talk things out like real men do. Dre doesn't let many people in. he keeps a lot of things inside. He pretends like personal attacks or criticism don't bother him, but i know it saddens him a lot. Respect is a big thing with Dre. he gets a lack of respect from punks like suge or ja rule, and ungrateful and unrealistic music buyers, but that doesn't really hurt. Those people motivate him to get in the studio and make the best music possible and out succeed them. Those people push him into a corner and force him to come out fighting with musical bombs. The situations that hurt are when family members turn their back on him or another family member. Yeah I'm talking about Snoop. Is there beef? No I don't call it that. Dre is deeply sadnedded that snoop did what he did, thats all. FAMILY COMES FIRST. Thats the code of a real man. The current problems with Dre and Snoop may run a lot deeper than I know, but I don't think their differences are too great that they can't work things out.
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Damn what a rant. I have to agree with you though. There are a lot of bullshit posters here. Every thread you click on someone will talk shit about an artist. Dre/Snoop fell off, Crooked I/Sisqo fag comments, JaRule/Murder Inc disses. I know what to expect before going into a thread. I don't really try to reply to that shit myself because this is the fucking internet and net beef is dumb. People don't like to give credit or people jock they favorite artist too much. A lot of people judge without knowing. They are quick to speak down on somebody when in real life they be beggin for autographs if they meet em. Dont trip Mellow there will always be haters. Fuck em.
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r u mel man? and if u r how can u prove it?
and i do agree with wut u say there is alot of hatin on this board but thats there opinions every1s got there own opinion and i respect that
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fuck dre he's gay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
just playin mellow i feel what your sayin to the fullest, and why is dre dissipionted in snoop? isn't snoop dissipionted in dre for not standing up against suge, but dissin jd? and is there any truth to the "rumor" that dre didn't show for a recording session with snoop a few months back?
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for some reason after years of silence Snoop decided to finally come out recently and really go after suge. I don't have a problem with Snoop doing that. I don't necessarily agree with him but Snoop is his own man and can do what he wants. Anyone who knows me knows how much I hate Suge and what he's done to his artists, hip hop and innocent people. But Suge is desperate and Snoop is giving him the attention he craves. Snoop dissing suge didn't cause any problems with dre. it was what snoop did after that is where the problem comes. Snoop has decided that since he has just now decided to publically dis Suge, anyone who decides not to is scared or not "the man" Snoop is. Snoop attacked Xzibit by name, basically challenged Xzibit's manhood and
almost calling him a coward for not standing up to suge. ANd snoop didn't mention dre by name but it was pretty obvious a lot of snoops comments were directed at dre. snoop didn't stand up for dre in his stupid little beef with Jermaine. he publically questioned dre and did not stand in his corner. I know dre was disappointed cause snoop many times went public with his views instead of confronting dre and xzibit face to face. Snoop thinks he is a "man" standing up to Suge Knight and anyone who chooses not to is not a real man. Fuck that. Being a man means putting family first. Although I didn't see any benefit in Dre beefing with dupri, it was easy to know that that beef would stay on wax and would be harmless. It's not potentally a life or death situation like it
can be with Suge. What good is it to dis suge? Nothing positive or even entertaining can happen. Just because suge has the government and fbi on his ass about BIg and pac, and is one misstep from going back to jail, doesn't make snoop safe. Fuckin with Suge means you're putting yourself
and your family in harms way. Snoop needs to push his stupid pride and ego out of the way and think about his family. I know a lot of you sided with snoop and therefore reallly hated on and disrespected Xzibit and Dre. Maybe one day when you have a family of your own you'll understand why Dre and Xzibit don't attack suge on wax or through the media. Snoop needs to realize what Dre, X and even myself realize. FAMILY COMES FIRST. Xzibit is a good man and
a great father. he is doing everything in his power to keep himself and his son safe. xzibit puts his son first in his life. He wants to be there for his son. he wants his son to have everything he never had. To do that he has to stay alive. X won't allow his son to be in danger. If any of you disagree
your headed for a long hard life. So don't question x's manhood. he's gone through more hard times and pain in his life than most of you will in 10 lifetimes. Dre don't talk about Suge in private let alone public. I've only asked him one time why he doesn't really dis Suge on record or in the media. He basically told me that he doesn't want to give Suge more life by giving him any more undeserved attention. Musically and business wise Suge is not a threat. Suge is desperate. Death
Row is getting dangerously close to its execution date. the unrealeased Pac tracks are almost gone. without those death row can't sell any records. Dre's silence has to piss Suge off so much.
I can just imaging Suge tearing his house up pissed Dre ignores him. The fact that Dre is fucking him up so bad in the music business has to make him even madder and more jealous. Why else can't suge not stop dissing dre? all the money suge stole from dre, the original death row inmates,
pac and many others is definelty starting to dwindle. The feds and the public are realizing what suge is and what he has done. everyone knows that dre and the inmates were the reason for death rows success. The fact is Suge Knight isn't a story anymore. he isn't anything but a myth, a ghetto ghost story. I can only imagine how much satisfaction dre has got to have knowing he has continued on to be a huge success and suge is struggling mightily. Suge is so desperate hes sucking ja rule and irv gottis nuts trying to make some money. But Dre and x know that a desperate and increasingly angry Suge is is dangerous Suge. Dre told me that there is only one way Suge knight will ever exist to him again -that is if he ever confronts Dre and the shit goes down. If it does Dre said he will look suge in the eye and match him word for word, fist for fist or bullet for bullet. Dre will not let Suge hurt his wife or kids. Suge would have to be willing to kill Dre for that to happen. and suge would have to be willing to die as well, cause "If I die he's goin with me. therefore he will never hurt my family - NEVER." Those words stuck with me. Chances of Dre and Suge having a deadly confrontation is highly doubtful, but realistically it is definelty possible. You may not believe me but trust me - it unfortunately is.
So whats my point? Talk is for punks. Talking behind someones back is for cowards. Its the man who looks you in your eye when problems arise that is the real man . The man who speaks with his actions is the real man. The man who puts family first is the real man. My family is the most important thing in the world to me. I Love my family more than myself. I'm willing to die for them. That includes my wife and kids and my friends like Dre. Do I ever worry about Suge or another Dre enemy coming after me or my family? Not really. I just know that if someone does i'll confront it then, But I highly highly doubt anyone will worry too much about some white boy musician who plays some instruments on dre's tracks.
As far as Snoop goes i hope that tommorrow he calls dre or x and they get together and talk things out. it saddens me to see the family broken apart. But Snoop's gotta make the first move. Snoop's one of the coolest dudes on the planet and i hate that he isn't part of the family at the moment.
I apologize for this post but i had to get some points across. i'll post my q and a soon and get back to the music. Ill address our plans for cube, I'll address the state of Dre's production, Ill talk about the Rakim Source article and what its like to work with the God. I'll discuss the Truth Hurts lawsuit, eminem, Man vs. Machine, 50 cent and a few other things. til then remember, DON'T BELIEVE THE HYPE and FAMILY COMES FIRST.
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Good post man...I completely agree with u...Even though I have some opinions, it doesn't neccisarily make them facts (even if I do strongly belive in them)...Like when I said "I belive Dre produced Multiply", that was just a strong opinion I had...I took all the facts, put them together, and came with my own opinion about how i thought Dre was doing work and not getting full credit...WHatever though homie...It's all good...I'm a big Dre supporter, so it's coo...PeAce
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There are opinions but just look at the murder inc topic. The Dre thread Mellow mentioned. People like to talk shit. They expect perfection or something from every Dre song. I've also remember a Crooked I topic were the homie from Rime magazine allowed us to post questions that he might ask. That was cool chance we got but I opened the thread and there was a bunch of bullshit comments in there. People here hate for no fucking reason.
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At least he ain't disrespecting anyone or constantly shoving his 150 million dollar net worth in the listeners face.
Damn, that's a lot of money!
...Dope post, mellowman.
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Thanks for postin i have always loved your post.......hey thats exactly how i feel i have always said that......i am a huge dre supporter and some people just get me mad when they dont give him his props...i dont care if you like him or not just atleast give him his props for what he has done in the game.....Peace!
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Yo Mike...That second post u made, I TOTALLY agree with it...Thats what I've been saying all this time...Why the fuck should Suge get what he wants? What Suge wants is attention from Multi-Platinum selling rappers, and when Snoop responds, Suge wins...Like I've been saying, Dre and X are the smart ones...SNoop is being dumb...PeACe
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ay mellow can you answer this question for me please
what does dre think of Bone thugs, has he ever mentioned them around you, cause i know a lot of people who wanna see a collabo between them.
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Yo Mike...That second post u made, I TOTALLY agree with it...Thats what I've been saying all this time...Why the fuck should Suge get what he wants? What Suge wants is attention from Multi-Platinum selling rappers, and when Snoop responds, Suge wins...Like I've been saying, Dre and X are the smart ones...SNoop is being dumb...PeACe
i have always said the same and you where always there too....i know that there is a few peeps that i really admire and you are one of them when it comes to Dre topics...i have always said dre is the smarter guy
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Just wanted to add that no one is perfect. Dre does some things that I don't agree with. dre makes mistakes. I'm not here to say Dre is perfect. I strongly disagreed with Dre dissing Jermaine. It was stupid. Dre don't have to prove anything. He doesn't need to battle on wax. His catologue of music, track record and awards are enough to show people who the greatest hip hop producer is. The last few years he has let his music talk for him. That's why responding to Jermaine was useless and didn't make sense. His music is the ultimate rebuttle for all the haters and doubters. Thats why Oh My God and Detox or so important. Thats' why they are being kept so secretive and taking so long. These albums will be the perfect way to say fuck you to all the haters, critics and doubters. and right now Dre's legacy and respect for what he done are being questioned at the moment. he's not gonna fail, believe me.
I also wanted to add that my comments on Snoop are not hateful. i love and respect Snoop to death. I was just disappointed he decided to air his problems with family in public and in a negative and disrespectful way. You expect those things from enemies like Suge, but not family. thats what hurt Dre the most. family aren't suppose to do things that way. their suppose to be there for each other no matter what and if there is a problem it should be address privately and face to face. i want Dre and Snoop and X to talk things out, cut the bullshit and get back to making music together. Thats what hurts me the most. I hate that something as beautiful as Dre and Snoop making music together is in danger of not happening anymore. fuck suge. fuck jermaine. fuck ja rule. fuck everybody else. this is all about family. fortunately, its not too late to patch things up and get shit back to where it needs to be.
So no Dre ain't perfect. but dre is a man with honor, integrity, loyalty and always puts family first. Dre is a man who embodies what making music should be about. music is Dre's life. its all he knows. and he doesn't want to let you down. and we will never let you down. I will stand by my words forever. so you don't have to like him or his music, just don't disrespect him. Thats all I ask.
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So....dre will be on snoop's new album or not ?
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mellowman.....i agree with ya man, nice posts, i appreciate it, but yo homie, can you please answer my question above?
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ok mellowman you said yourself that even Dre makes mistakes. Is Snoop's mistake much different than Dre's mistake of dissing JD on wax. Dre became fired up at JD's remarks, and his emotions were flowing. I know I have said/done stupid and mean shit because I was fired up and angry. Snoop probably was fired up and mad that he was the only one taking a stand against suge. Snoop was also very fired up about suge. I agree with you they need to cut all the bullshit and make music together. Damn this westcoast shit is falling apart with all the damn beefing. Dre and Snoop seem like the only ones who really can bring this shit back together and get the westcoast some damn recognition. Mellowman can you tell me why Dre and Snoop don't do a full album together? I mean that is a fucking goldmine. That would put the westcoast on #1, and create a new vibe here. Ain't shit hardly on the radio that is westcoast. Ain't shit on mtv or bet. And you know the real true snoop and dre fans want this shit more than anything else. The fans from day 1. I am too lazy to write anymore, but I could write tons of shit on this issue.
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ok mellowman you said yourself that even Dre makes mistakes. Is Snoop's mistake much different than Dre's mistake of dissing JD on wax. Dre became fired up at JD's remarks, and his emotions were flowing. I know I have said/done stupid and mean shit because I was fired up and angry. Snoop probably was fired up and mad that he was the only one taking a stand against suge. Snoop was also very fired up about suge. I agree with you they need to cut all the bullshit and make music together. Damn this westcoast shit is falling apart with all the damn beefing. Dre and Snoop seem like the only ones who really can bring this shit back together and get the westcoast some damn recognition. Mellowman can you tell me why Dre and Snoop don't do a full album together? I mean that is a fucking goldmine. That would put the westcoast on #1, and create a new vibe here. Ain't shit hardly on the radio that is westcoast. Ain't shit on mtv or bet. And you know the real true snoop and dre fans want this shit more than anything else. The fans from day 1. I am too lazy to write anymore, but I could write tons of shit on this issue.
damn word up.....on the dre and snoop album.....i would love to hear that album damn i would pay 50 bucks for that album....damn see what you did AcGrundy you made me wet my pants
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Thanx for the positive read Mellow
This might calm some water's round here.
I agree 100%
Hatesrats 2oo2
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Well i think i just got served by Mellowman
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LOL thats cool, i never thought of that alterego thing...I have been convinced Dre is cool Once again.
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Ps "dre is a big headed nerd" sure was one funny title, makes me laugh whenever i read it.
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Thanks mellow. Always good to see your posts.
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Thanks mellowman but will we get a Rakim album out this year?Oh yeah and what are the plans for Ice Cube?Im one of Dre's biggest fans,thanks for the post.
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Thanks Once Again Mellow, Always A Pleasure To See A Post From You ;)
Good Luck With Your Work & Hope, Like You Say, The Family Can Reunite!
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Mellowman can you tell me why Dre and Snoop don't do a full album together? I mean that is a fucking goldmine. That would put the westcoast on #1, and create a new vibe here. Ain't shit hardly on the radio that is westcoast. Ain't shit on mtv or bet. And you know the real true snoop and dre fans want this shit more than anything else. The fans from day 1.
WORD!
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tnx for this post
be sure to remember whenever you get mad about a post, all people here want to hear new dre music and therefore start discussions about it
it's hard as a fan in europe to get the real facts about westcoast rap. I'm glad I found this forum. But in general there are to much fake rumours on the internet and sometimes I believe them (I almost believerd daz joining aftermath :D)
Succes with Detox, Oh my god and all cd's you guys are working on.
Hope you keep the news coming, I appreciate it very much
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Thanks Once Again Mellow, Always A Pleasure To See A Post From You ;)
Good Luck With Your Work & Hope, Like You Say, The Family Can Reunite!
hell yeah
www.dubcnn.com :)
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Dre acts like a BIG MAN towards Jermaine dupri with lyrics written by eminem.Wow....what a big move!!! :o :o :o :o
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Nice post Mellowman, I was looking forward to hearing from you again, it's been a minute. If your posts don't sort out peoples misconceptions about Dre and his work then fuck 'em, they really are just jealous haters. Just tell Dre that his real fans have got his back 100%.
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[size=10]What Up Mellow!!!!!!!!!!!![/size]
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Mellowman, you sure got your head screwed on tight. Thanks once again for the info.
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Mellow Fellow AnDRE shouldve dissed JD. He called him and Timbo out 2 make himself look BiGGER in tha magazine. Jd is not Suge. Suge is REAL.
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What up Mellow, thanks for the info... that's tight...
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yo sup mellow, kan u tell me about who the fuck brooklyn is and wassup with shaunta n whats happenin with all these new kats on aftermath
oh n is it tru that hittmans gonna rite for oh detox?
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Im alwayz keepin up with what you bring to the board Mellow. Big thanks for all the info. Dont get frustrated.. keep it comin. Pz.
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Mellow, I got a question. If you read this board im sure youve seen my rants about the greatness of Quik and how hes the GOAT producer. And im not gonna be all groupie like to you just cause you know dre. It seems like people act like theyve never talked shit about him before when they reply to your posts. I dont try and bring dre down. I like him alot but Im gonna be strait up with you. Quik will always be the better and more original producer to me. So my question is, Is Dre the greatest to you cause you see him work? If I knew Quik and Dre and I watched them produce an album I might think differently. But the battle of Quik vs Dre grows tired and I just wanna know what you think about it. What do you think about me and the other Quik-supporters on this board? Are these the kind of things that get you mad and log off?
Not tryna start shit but insted of asking a dumb question like "Tell me when Detox is comin out" Id rather ask you somthin real. Your not just news. Your a person. So id like your personal opinion.
Peace
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Dre is better. need prove? N.W.A. Death Row WCWC 2 the Present.
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Dre is better. need prove? N.W.A. Death Row WCWC 2 the Present.
DOnt even start. I didnt say anything to you so dont reply to my question. Also what you said didnt prove one thing. So shut up and go elsewhere.
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It prove Quik hasnt done anything compared 2 DRe Dumb Fuck!
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Youre just mad Cause Mellowman knows Dre and knows Dre better than your Boy Quik. Since Dre is the best U hate on him. U dont see as many peeps hating on Quik but Than Quik doesnt get as Much attention as Dre That Bothers u Doesnt it LOSER!
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I just want my question answered by MELLOWMAN. Not you. So im not responding to your dumbass coments. If you looked inside that thick head you would relize that I never asked you shit. And no Im not jealous. Your just another guy that acts like hes dres biggest fan cause a guy that knows him made this thread. And Im not gonna keep arguing about this. Check my history. Ive argued over Quik vs Dre before. Im not gonna go over all this again. ::)
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Mellow, I heard Dre has added a new musician to his producing team named Focus, can you give me more info in him?
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well, I understand your post, and it's good to see you on the board again. I agree with you about dre being a good man, etc. family man and all that, that's pretty apparent from interviews and stuff, but just a couple comments:
1. I think most people's talk on message boards is more braggadocio then they would be in real life. In real life, they'd all be thrilled to meet dre, of course, and tell him how big of fans they are, even though their calling him 'a big headed nerd' online.
2. I think the Snoop thing is blown way out of proportion. I get the sense, from what you say, and what I read of dre, that he holds grudges, and is pretty sensitive. Here's how we understand what happened, and most people agree on this:
A. Jermaine dupri tells an interviewer, he thinks that his beats are better than anybody alives, even dre.
B. Dre gets pissed off, him, em, and X all diss the hell out of little 5 foot 1 J.D, because of 1 comment. that's all we know about. Maybe J.D. said more, and none of us like J.D.! and we all like Dre, Em, and X. BUT. From my point of view, they kinda overreacted. One, Eminem is a terror compared to J.D., j.d. will never see Em, or X. Dre didn't have to resort to the childish disses he made on j.d. .. He even inadvertantly dissed lil bow wow in part of that. come on. All because of 1 comment? It's his opinion. J.D. likes his own stuff better than dre's.
C. Snoop gets pissed. He didn't diss dre, he didn't do crap. All he said, that I heard, was that he thought it was wrong for them to jump on J.D., because he's a little guy (literally, and musically). Snoop then questioned why Dre would diss J.D. over one little thing, that was a halfway wrong comment, excusable by most people, but Dre, Eminem, and X wanted (from my view, and I guess snoop's too) to show how much better than J.D. they were, so they dissed the hell out of him. Then, snoop brings up the touchy subject... why diss jermaine, over something miniscule, but let Suge Knight publicly punk X, Dre, and Em, OVER AND OVER AGAIN, in public? Maybeyou're right that it's dangerous to diss Suge, and I've had respect for Dre not dissing him till now... but then why diss J.D.? Doesn't Dre know that left him open to criticism, and went against everything Dre's said up until now? He looks like the world's biggest hypocrite. He looks like a bully, on some little guy, but won't step up to someone who's been talking trash for 6 years now.
That's just how most of us see it. I'm not calling Andre Young anything, I just question why Dre is doin this stuff.
Other things we're wondering about:
3. Why is Dre not working with Snoop, Daz, Warren G, etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. ? It's likehe's turning his back on them because they won't do everything he says or something? Maybe we don't know what the hell's going on, and I reserve that option, but it just seems strange that Warren G's in magazines saying his own brother wouldn't appear on his album. Kurupt? Nate? Snoop? I know he's working with them a little bit, but man, how can he give busta rhymes all those songs, and only give Nate 1? I'm confused.
4. It also seems like (to some of us) that Dre is in a creative slump. Maybe his stuff is still the dopest on the streets, it probably is... but in my opinion, Quik, even Daz! and others are starting to be more creative than Dre. I guess Dre's just sticking to a tried and true formula, and he's still the greatest around... .but I guess we just expect mind blowing everytime he drops something new, and lately we haven't been getting it.
Again, I love dre, snoop, all these guys, but these are just the things going through an average fans mind. Not criticising, and I know I could be totally wrong with all this, but this is what we're thinking.
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i dont care about any of this bullshit no more. But Xzibit claimed that if anyone fucks with Dre, Alcoholics or the D-o-double-G Snoop, he would fuck them up. So fuck Xzibit, you cant be saying one thing, and different the next day. He should have either ignored Suge or stood his ground. Saying "I only make music with Snoop" was not a very good or intelligent thing to say becuase 1) he lost one of his close homies (Snoop) and 2) he made himself look like a bitch for not backing up his own words. If family comes first then thats fine with me but remember to practice what you preach.
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Good to see your still around dogg. Great post.
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Saying "I only make music with Snoop" was not a very good or intelligent thing to say
Where did you get that quote from?
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so is snoop not family to xzibit either?
kuz i mean i agree with ya mellow on alot of stuff u say and the same today but like if family comes first and if its tru that xzibit was asked by suge about what his and snoopz relationship was then like he shud have stuck up for snoop kuz snoop should be like family to x too. i mean by sayin 'yeah snoops my nigga' or sumthang like 'yeah me n snoop got major love n be kickin it for a while now' i doubt he'd put any of huis actual family in danger so like i dunno, i see where ya comin from but ppl kant jus let suge mock them around all they life and like i wanna see sum more dre n snoop collabos so if dre n snoop really are bigger men than what they got they got to say about they egos than instead of waitin for the other one 2 kall them 2 sort things out, one should jus fone the other n speak things over!
man i miss listenin 2 dre n snoop stuff n it a shame dre aint gonna be on paid the kost 2 be the boss n tell dre 2 talk 2 snoop soon kuz without snoop detox will seem like theres sumthang missin but like dont jus fone for that fact, sort things out once n for good
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Dam right FAMILY COMES FIRST. Dam mellow you are so intelligent. I have so much respect for you, your posts always make sense. Snoop shouldent of dissed X or Dre, there was no point and looking at beefs from a long point of view there is no point. From Pac to Biggie, Jay Z to nas, Dre to Eazy, and now this.
Whats the point in any of them, to sell records, to get promotion, its dumb. Snoop should of kept his mouth shut, once a friend always a friend.
But much love to dre and X, doing shit for the family I got love for that.
Peace Mellow, take care bud.
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Dam right FAMILY COMES FIRST. Dam mellow you are so intelligent. I have so much respect for you, your posts always make sense. Snoop shouldent of dissed X or Dre, there was no point and looking at beefs from a long point of view there is no point. From Pac to Biggie, Jay Z to nas, Dre to Eazy, and now this.
Whats the point in any of them, to sell records, to get promotion, its dumb. Snoop should of kept his mouth shut, once a friend always a friend.
But much love to dre and X, doing shit for the family I got love for that.
Peace Mellow, take care bud.
^Thats word!
Ax
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Where did you get that quote from?
thats what Xzibit said when Suge confronted him at a cluub in LA. Xzibit must have been really shook when he said that.
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Dam right FAMILY COMES FIRST. Dam mellow you are so intelligent.
So intelligent for what ?
Everybody knows Family comes first!
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for some reason after years of silence Snoop decided to finally come out recently and really go after suge. I don't have a problem with Snoop doing that. I don't necessarily agree with him but Snoop is his own man and can do what he wants. Anyone who knows me knows how much I hate Suge and what he's done to his artists, hip hop and innocent people. But Suge is desperate and Snoop is giving him the attention he craves. Snoop dissing suge didn't cause any problems with dre. it was what snoop did after that is where the problem comes. Snoop has decided that since he has just now decided to publically dis Suge, anyone who decides not to is scared or not "the man" Snoop is. Snoop attacked Xzibit by name, basically challenged Xzibit's manhood and
almost calling him a coward for not standing up to suge. ANd snoop didn't mention dre by name but it was pretty obvious a lot of snoops comments were directed at dre. snoop didn't stand up for dre in his stupid little beef with Jermaine. he publically questioned dre and did not stand in his corner. I know dre was disappointed cause snoop many times went public with his views instead of confronting dre and xzibit face to face. Snoop thinks he is a "man" standing up to Suge Knight and anyone who chooses not to is not a real man. Fuck that. Being a man means putting family first. Although I didn't see any benefit in Dre beefing with dupri, it was easy to know that that beef would stay on wax and would be harmless. It's not potentally a life or death situation like it
can be with Suge. What good is it to dis suge? Nothing positive or even entertaining can happen. Just because suge has the government and fbi on his ass about BIg and pac, and is one misstep from going back to jail, doesn't make snoop safe. Fuckin with Suge means you're putting yourself
and your family in harms way. Snoop needs to push his stupid pride and ego out of the way and think about his family. I know a lot of you sided with snoop and therefore reallly hated on and disrespected Xzibit and Dre. Maybe one day when you have a family of your own you'll understand why Dre and Xzibit don't attack suge on wax or through the media. Snoop needs to realize what Dre, X and even myself realize. FAMILY COMES FIRST. Xzibit is a good man and
a great father. he is doing everything in his power to keep himself and his son safe. xzibit puts his son first in his life. He wants to be there for his son. he wants his son to have everything he never had. To do that he has to stay alive. X won't allow his son to be in danger. If any of you disagree
your headed for a long hard life. So don't question x's manhood. he's gone through more hard times and pain in his life than most of you will in 10 lifetimes. Dre don't talk about Suge in private let alone public. I've only asked him one time why he doesn't really dis Suge on record or in the media. He basically told me that he doesn't want to give Suge more life by giving him any more undeserved attention. Musically and business wise Suge is not a threat. Suge is desperate. Death
Row is getting dangerously close to its execution date. the unrealeased Pac tracks are almost gone. without those death row can't sell any records. Dre's silence has to piss Suge off so much.
I can just imaging Suge tearing his house up pissed Dre ignores him. The fact that Dre is fucking him up so bad in the music business has to make him even madder and more jealous. Why else can't suge not stop dissing dre? all the money suge stole from dre, the original death row inmates,
pac and many others is definelty starting to dwindle. The feds and the public are realizing what suge is and what he has done. everyone knows that dre and the inmates were the reason for death rows success. The fact is Suge Knight isn't a story anymore. he isn't anything but a myth, a ghetto ghost story. I can only imagine how much satisfaction dre has got to have knowing he has continued on to be a huge success and suge is struggling mightily. Suge is so desperate hes sucking ja rule and irv gottis nuts trying to make some money. But Dre and x know that a desperate and increasingly angry Suge is is dangerous Suge. Dre told me that there is only one way Suge knight will ever exist to him again -that is if he ever confronts Dre and the shit goes down. If it does Dre said he will look suge in the eye and match him word for word, fist for fist or bullet for bullet. Dre will not let Suge hurt his wife or kids. Suge would have to be willing to kill Dre for that to happen. and suge would have to be willing to die as well, cause "If I die he's goin with me. therefore he will never hurt my family - NEVER." Those words stuck with me. Chances of Dre and Suge having a deadly confrontation is highly doubtful, but realistically it is definelty possible. You may not believe me but trust me - it unfortunately is.
So whats my point? Talk is for punks. Talking behind someones back is for cowards. Its the man who looks you in your eye when problems arise that is the real man . The man who speaks with his actions is the real man. The man who puts family first is the real man. My family is the most important thing in the world to me. I Love my family more than myself. I'm willing to die for them. That includes my wife and kids and my friends like Dre. Do I ever worry about Suge or another Dre enemy coming after me or my family? Not really. I just know that if someone does i'll confront it then, But I highly highly doubt anyone will worry too much about some white boy musician who plays some instruments on dre's tracks.
As far as Snoop goes i hope that tommorrow he calls dre or x and they get together and talk things out. it saddens me to see the family broken apart. But Snoop's gotta make the first move. Snoop's one of the coolest dudes on the planet and i hate that he isn't part of the family at the moment.
I apologize for this post but i had to get some points across. i'll post my q and a soon and get back to the music. Ill address our plans for cube, I'll address the state of Dre's production, Ill talk about the Rakim Source article and what its like to work with the God. I'll discuss the Truth Hurts lawsuit, eminem, Man vs. Machine, 50 cent and a few other things. til then remember, DON'T BELIEVE THE HYPE and FAMILY COMES FIRST.
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Only things dre fans wanted to hear......
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Only things dre fans wanted to hear......
isnt this the guy who made that one thread "Guess whos a new artist on Tha Row?"...?? LoL
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isnt this the guy who made that one thread "Guess whos a new artist on Tha Row?"...?? LoL
aren`t you one of these guys who said things like "Suge Knight cannot release A kurupt cd because kurupt is still on Antra".............
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isnt this the guy who made that one thread "Guess whos a new artist on Tha Row?"...?? LoL
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man thanx for puttin things in perspective mel!
please come back and bless us wit more posts!
man im sick of people hating on dre, snoop, 2Pac, xzibit, etc.,,,people who make posts saying dre is a "big head nerd" need 2 be kicked offa this board, we are hear 2 celebrate this music, if u dont like what they are doin just DONT say it!
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As far as the Dre/JD beef and Dre dissing JD and not Suge, hasn't anyone ever considered that it was just to sell records. Em's new album was coming out, he had the pop song for the mtv viewers (Without Me) and needed something to get the real hiphop heads interested. Beefs are huge right now. Say What You Say ends up on mixtapes (along with the other shit Em and X did dissing JD) and now the true heads know about Em's new shit. They wanted to make some money so they stirred up some controversy... Proof: Em-- "...Mr. Butter'sWorth/Dre told me to milk this shit for what it's worth" that's from the actual song too... Think about it.
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Dat Dan Speaks the Truth!
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Quote "i dont care about any of this bullshit no more. But Xzibit claimed that if anyone fucks with Dre, Alcoholics or the D-o-double-G Snoop, he would fuck them up. So fuck Xzibit, you cant be saying one thing, and different the next day. He should have either ignored Suge or stood his ground. Saying "I only make music with Snoop" was not a very good or intelligent thing to say becuase 1) he lost one of his close homies (Snoop) and 2) he made himself look like a bitch for not backing up his own words. If family comes first then thats fine with me but remember to practice what you preach.IMO"
That's a very good question, When X was trying to get some exposure he was all over his CD crip walkin', warninig cats not to mess with SNOOP, dre & the Alkoholic fam, but when it's time to mesh fool talkin' about we just do records. So basically what he is saying is that when it's DRE he can diss on his behalf (for people like JD), but when it's snoop they just making muzik. I ve said this before & i'll say it again, That fool Xzibit is straight punk, straight busta & i'm glad i didn't pick up his garbage CD. This is not hatin', that fool has no loyalty, he is even dissin' his own Alkoholic fam coz of DRE, i'm sorry but i have no respect for people like that. I guarantee you he aint goin' far in the rap bus, cats have seen how he is & hip hop is about loyalty & havin' your peoples back 100% (that dont mean kill, or hurt other people on behalf of them, but damn dont deny the people that put you on). Like i said this aint hatin', just straight talk. much respect to Snoop.
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Quote "i dont care about any of this bullshit no more. But Xzibit claimed that if anyone fucks with Dre, Alcoholics or the D-o-double-G Snoop, he would fuck them up. So fuck Xzibit, you cant be saying one thing, and different the next day. He should have either ignored Suge or stood his ground. Saying "I only make music with Snoop" was not a very good or intelligent thing to say becuase 1) he lost one of his close homies (Snoop) and 2) he made himself look like a bitch for not backing up his own words. If family comes first then thats fine with me but remember to practice what you preach.IMO"
That's a very good question, When X was trying to get some exposure he was all over his CD crip walkin', warninig cats not to mess with SNOOP, dre & the Alkoholic fam, but when it's time to mesh fool talkin' about we just do records. So basically what he is saying is that when it's DRE he can diss on his behalf (for people like JD), but when it's snoop they just making muzik. I ve said this before & i'll say it again, That fool Xzibit is straight punk, straight busta & i'm glad i didn't pick up his garbage CD. This is not hatin', that fool has no loyalty, he is even dissin' his own Alkoholic fam coz of DRE, i'm sorry but i have no respect for people like that. I guarantee you he aint goin' far in the rap bus, cats have seen how he is & hip hop is about loyalty & havin' your peoples back 100% (that dont mean kill, or hurt other people on behalf of them, but damn dont deny the people that put you on). Like i said this aint hatin', just straight talk. much respect to Snoop.