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Title: Who do you think is the worst run organization in sports
Post by: pappy on August 24, 2004, 10:15:53 PM
I go with the New York Mets.  They change the direction of the team every 3 months.  They offer low balls offers to superstars and miss out on them.  Than sign 2nd tier an washed up ball players to fill holes an expect that to pass as a team.  They play in the largest market in the world so they have the money.  When a star is available there are affraid to spend the money.  After wittnessing the backlash from fans they throw cash at washed up bums to make up for it.  They traded away there farm system recently to try an make the playoffs for a lost season.  They traded away the best prospect in baseball Scott Kazmir (made his MLB debut last night 5innings pitched, 4 hits, 0 runs) for victor zambrano who is already in the DL.  I could go on an on but i kno no1 cares except maybe javi.  who do u think is the worst run team in sports.
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Post by: white Boy on August 24, 2004, 10:17:31 PM
NEW YORK FUCKIN RANGERS, no contest, best roster, fuckers cant even make the playoffs
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Post by: Suga Foot on August 24, 2004, 10:21:08 PM
I have a friend that plays in the Mets organization.  I should warn him next time I see him lol.
Title: Re: Who do you think is the worst run organization in sports
Post by: pappy on August 24, 2004, 10:32:14 PM
I have a friend that plays in the Mets organization.  I should warn him next time I see him lol.
whats his name
Title: Re: Who do you think is the worst run organization in sports
Post by: Suga Foot on August 24, 2004, 10:36:45 PM
Shawn Bowman, he plays for The Capital City Bombers (A)
Title: Re: Who do you think is the worst run organization in sports
Post by: pappy on August 24, 2004, 10:41:55 PM
Shawn Bowman, he plays for The Capital City Bombers (A)
hes got decent stats.  Nice OBP for a young guy but high K's.  i dont see him with a future with the mets tho,  b/c of david wright ;D... atleast we still have something good left.  But the mets will find a way to get rid of him.  lol

http://mets.nyfansites.com/players.php?player=shawn_bowman
Title: Re: Who do you think is the worst run organization in sports
Post by: Suga Foot on August 24, 2004, 10:45:00 PM
yep that's him.  I played with him 2 years ago.
Title: Re: Who do you think is the worst run organization in sports
Post by: A-Trak on August 24, 2004, 10:52:06 PM
NEW YORK FUCKIN RANGERS, no contest, best roster, fuckers cant even make the playoffs

agree. they spend a shit load of cash the past few years and still can't make the playoffs. they need to fire that GM.
Title: Re: Who do you think is the worst run organization in sports
Post by: Suga Foot on August 24, 2004, 10:57:14 PM
how bout the Knicks?
Title: Re: Who do you think is the worst run organization in sports
Post by: pappy on August 24, 2004, 11:26:56 PM
how bout the Knicks?
the knicks were untill they fired scott layden.  They still have a lot of troubles,  but they are on the right path.  Buts it goin be a while.  scott layden had no clue wtf he was doing.
Title: Re: Who do you think is the worst run organization in sports
Post by: pappy on August 24, 2004, 11:27:31 PM
NEW YORK FUCKIN RANGERS, no contest, best roster, fuckers cant even make the playoffs

agree. they spend a shit load of cash the past few years and still can't make the playoffs. they need to fire that GM.

glen sather, the rangers GM.  Fans dont want him fired they want him dead lol.  Especially after dealing Brian Leetch.
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Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on August 25, 2004, 03:14:48 AM
Knicks are improving madstyle, so no way...
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Post by: eS El Duque on August 25, 2004, 05:18:03 AM
New York Rangers, horrible
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Post by: Smoke on August 25, 2004, 05:50:18 AM
Inter, soccer.
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Post by: Primo on August 25, 2004, 08:44:39 AM
Detriot Lions.........
Title: Re: Who do you think is the worst run organization in sports
Post by: -VZA- on August 25, 2004, 09:14:08 AM
wow nobody mentioned the clippers ??? simply amazing.
Title: Re: Who do you think is the worst run organization in sports
Post by: pappy on August 25, 2004, 01:57:46 PM
Knicks are improving madstyle, so no way...

not really,  there a one an done playoff team.  Unless they can unload allan houston.  But b4 there GM got fired last year they were easily one of the worst run organizations in sports.
Title: Re: Who do you think is the worst run organization in sports
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on August 25, 2004, 02:03:35 PM
Knicks are improving madstyle, so no way...

not really,  there a one an done playoff team.  Unless they can unload allan houston.  But b4 there GM got fired last year they were easily one of the worst run organizations in sports.


Were talking about now...Hiring Isaiah Thomas and getting Marbury on the team improved them by a whole lot...What do you mean "not really"?..Next year they'll be contenders in the East...Mark my words.
Title: Re: Who do you think is the worst run organization in sports
Post by: pappy on August 25, 2004, 02:15:53 PM
Knicks are improving madstyle, so no way...

not really,  there a one an done playoff team.  Unless they can unload allan houston.  But b4 there GM got fired last year they were easily one of the worst run organizations in sports.


Were talking about now...Hiring Isaiah Thomas and getting Marbury on the team improved them by a whole lot...What do you mean "not really"?..Next year they'll be contenders in the East...Mark my words.
Unless the Knicks can unload Allan Houston they will not be a contender untill he is gone.
Title: Re: Who do you think is the worst run organization in sports
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on August 25, 2004, 02:17:16 PM
We'll see.
Title: Re: Who do you think is the worst run organization in sports
Post by: Montana00 on August 25, 2004, 03:05:40 PM
miami heat.

3 up and comers for old man shaq.
Title: Re: Who do you think is the worst run organization in sports
Post by: The Big Bad Ass on August 25, 2004, 08:07:56 PM
lol at Zeke being an upgrade for the Knicks. As a player, the man was amazing. As a GM/Coach nba exec, he's horrible. The cba crumbled while he was in charge, the Raptors were a train wreck, he couldn't get the Pacers out of the first round of the playoffs, and then he takes a Knicks squad that is burried in huge contracts, and trades them for even bigger contracts. Problem is, New York is a city that does not have the patients for a rebuilding project... whoever took over as gm should have let some of these huge contracts expire, or worked on moving them, and playing a year or 2 with a squad like the jazz or hawks had until they had space to sign a huge star like Marbury, but also had a good draft pick or 2 to go along with it. Zeke was destined to fail regardless of his exec smarts... no one could have taken over the Knicks in thier current situation and made it into something immediatly... but you Knick fans will be calling for his firing in 2 more years, just like you were layden. He's been just awful since his Detroit days.
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Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on August 25, 2004, 09:10:01 PM
lol at Zeke being an upgrade for the Knicks. As a player, the man was amazing. As a GM/Coach nba exec, he's horrible. The cba crumbled while he was in charge, the Raptors were a train wreck, he couldn't get the Pacers out of the first round of the playoffs, and then he takes a Knicks squad that is burried in huge contracts, and trades them for even bigger contracts. Problem is, New York is a city that does not have the patients for a rebuilding project... whoever took over as gm should have let some of these huge contracts expire, or worked on moving them, and playing a year or 2 with a squad like the jazz or hawks had until they had space to sign a huge star like Marbury, but also had a good draft pick or 2 to go along with it. Zeke was destined to fail regardless of his exec smarts... no one could have taken over the Knicks in thier current situation and made it into something immediatly... but you Knick fans will be calling for his firing in 2 more years, just like you were layden. He's been just awful since his Detroit days.

Pacers did hella' good when Isaiah was the coach...Just look at how Jermain O'Neal went from a role player to a superstar...He even credits Isaiah for that.
Title: Re: Who do you think is the worst run organization in sports
Post by: pappy on August 25, 2004, 09:19:10 PM
lol at Zeke being an upgrade for the Knicks. As a player, the man was amazing. As a GM/Coach nba exec, he's horrible. The cba crumbled while he was in charge, the Raptors were a train wreck, he couldn't get the Pacers out of the first round of the playoffs, and then he takes a Knicks squad that is burried in huge contracts, and trades them for even bigger contracts. Problem is, New York is a city that does not have the patients for a rebuilding project... whoever took over as gm should have let some of these huge contracts expire, or worked on moving them, and playing a year or 2 with a squad like the jazz or hawks had until they had space to sign a huge star like Marbury, but also had a good draft pick or 2 to go along with it. Zeke was destined to fail regardless of his exec smarts... no one could have taken over the Knicks in thier current situation and made it into something immediatly... but you Knick fans will be calling for his firing in 2 more years, just like you were layden. He's been just awful since his Detroit days.

if you tell new york fans that you are rebuilding an that is what you are doing an do it right.  new york fans can wait.  If you dick ny fans around than we dont take it.  Thats what happening with mets fans.  They said they were rebuilding.  3 months later they traded away the farm system.  About layden,  im not a knick fan,  but he was a fuckin moron.  He was running the team into the ground.
Title: Re: Who do you think is the worst run organization in sports
Post by: pappy on August 25, 2004, 09:20:39 PM
lol at Zeke being an upgrade for the Knicks. As a player, the man was amazing. As a GM/Coach nba exec, he's horrible. The cba crumbled while he was in charge, the Raptors were a train wreck, he couldn't get the Pacers out of the first round of the playoffs, and then he takes a Knicks squad that is burried in huge contracts, and trades them for even bigger contracts. Problem is, New York is a city that does not have the patients for a rebuilding project... whoever took over as gm should have let some of these huge contracts expire, or worked on moving them, and playing a year or 2 with a squad like the jazz or hawks had until they had space to sign a huge star like Marbury, but also had a good draft pick or 2 to go along with it. Zeke was destined to fail regardless of his exec smarts... no one could have taken over the Knicks in thier current situation and made it into something immediatly... but you Knick fans will be calling for his firing in 2 more years, just like you were layden. He's been just awful since his Detroit days.

Pacers did hella' good when Isaiah was the coach...Just look at how Jermain O'Neal went from a role player to a superstar...He even credits Isaiah for that.

Jermaine O'neal would of gotten good eventually regardless of who coached him.  Zeke just happened to be at the right place at the right time.
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Post by: M Dogg™ on August 25, 2004, 09:46:41 PM
wow nobody mentioned the clippers ??? simply amazing.

I was thinking the same thing. I mean, they always have a very solid, young team that if kept togethet they could be built into contenders. Then Donald Sterling finds a way to get rid of everybody, and start over again. They chased after Kobe, and everyone knew Kobe wasn't that dumb to accept their offer. I mean, people in LA don't even like the Clippers, they treated Kobe going to the Clippers like if Kobe was leaving town like Shaq. If A-Rod was traded to the Mets, the other half of New York would be happy, if Kobe goes to the Clippers all of LA gets pissed off because the Clippers don't have no fans, except the 5,000 that show up each night, and half of those seats are free anyways due to give-a-ways... lol. Out of a town of over 3million people, that's not a good percentage in a town that has proven to support 2 teams in any sport that's there. At least the Mets made the World Series within the last 5 years, the Rangers have some history, the Clippers are so forgotten, that one poll in the LA times back in 1998, every team in LA history was mentioned except for the Clippers... lol. Then the sports writers mentioned that spoke louder about them then if one letter was written. Clippers=worst run organization in sports.
Title: Re: Who do you think is the worst run organization in sports
Post by: Trauma-san on August 25, 2004, 09:53:57 PM
The Charlotte Hornets were ran horribly.  This asshole named George Shinn owned the team, and at first, everything was cool.  We led the league in attendance, and had pretty much shitty players.  After a few years, we traded and got some great draft picks, but had tons of problems with management having a team that plays like a team.  After a while, great players like Alonzo Mourning, Larry Johnson, etc. were all leaving the team, because management wanted to cut salaries.  @ the time, we're still leading the league in attendance, and I believe merchandise sales, as well.  

So, just when things are starting to look bad, Shinn gets busted for a sexual harassment case, lots of weird shit happening at his house with his maid, etc.  On top of that, he's still underpaying players, all of the big name talent has left, and the guys we still had around were all disgruntled.  Shinn wouldn't pay to hire anymore big guns, so the team sucks.  

Along comes Michael Jordan.  He's retired from ball, but wants to play for Charlotte, since he's a North Carolina native.  He wants to play a year, then buy a portion of the team.  Shinn tells Michael Jordan, the greatest player to ever play the game, No, Mr. Jordan, I dont' want you to play for my team, and I won't sell you a portion of my team.

Less than 6 months later Shinn sells half of the Hornets to some dick head named Ray Woolridge.  

Woolridge and Shinn immediately start bitching about how their arena, which the taxpayers had just built specifically for the Hornets 7 years earlier, wasn't big enough.  So, the Mayor holds a special ballot to decide if the taxpayers want to give the Hornets 200 million dollars to build a downtown arena... the taxpayers overwhelmingly say "no", so Shinn and Woolridge decide to move the team to New Orleans.


The mayor claims that Shinn & Woolridge were total pricks, and that he couldn't even talk to them on the phone or in person, they were just assholes he couldn't get along with.  Along comes Bob Johnson, and we've got a team on the ground and running 3? years after the Hornets left, which is unprecedented.  The only bullshit factor is, the Bobcats are getting a new arena built downtown (which is what the hornets wanted)... difference is though, it's being paid for by a tax on motel stays, so tourists are actually footing the bill, not the taxpayers.  Crazy times.

Click heah to see our arena


http://208.255.200.46/sample/LvAppl/lvappl.htm


It's pretty fuckin' cool, there's a camera on the arena site, and you can control the camera, and look around the city and zoom in and shit.  LOL
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Post by: white Boy on August 26, 2004, 02:38:27 PM
^^ cam shit is hot, is it live?
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Post by: Trauma-san on August 26, 2004, 04:22:27 PM
Yes, Live downtown Charlotte
Title: Re: Who do you think is the worst run organization in sports
Post by: Trauma-san on August 26, 2004, 04:25:17 PM
Oh shit! I just noticed that when you get 'control' of the camera, it's only for a limited time, because you're actually moving the camera around, LOL.  So they let you do it for 20 seconds, then you have to wait to get control of it again if someone else is fucking with it.  That's why it keeps zooming in and moving and shit, LOL.  Technology: Amazing. 
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Post by: eS El Duque on August 26, 2004, 05:42:03 PM
^^that shit is so dope...there's a hot bitch at the bus stop atm lol
Title: Re: Who do you think is the worst run organization in sports
Post by: Don Jacob on August 27, 2004, 11:52:04 PM
most definately the clippers or the Bengles
Title: Re: Who do you think is the worst run organization in sports
Post by: pappy on August 28, 2004, 12:21:43 AM
most definately the clippers or the Bengles
i disagree with the bengles.  3-4 years ago yea.  But they have greatly imporved there image in sports.  They are becoming a respectable franchise lol.  Its funny b/c i remember on espn 3-4 years ago them talkin about how badly run they are run lol.
Title: Re: Who do you think is the worst run organization in sports
Post by: .:DayGoStyLz:. on August 28, 2004, 03:07:17 AM
San Diego Chargers...

Im a Raider fan, so fuck the Chargers but still. Eli was a bitch for the way he acted, but i dont blame him lol. The Chargers organization is SO cheap. The smartest move theyve made since ive been watching football, was actually paying Ladanian....im shocked. One superbowl appearance...ever, and they think they deserve a new stadium lol. Cmon.
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Post by: eS El Duque on August 28, 2004, 10:53:00 AM
I bet Eli Manning is gonna flop. I don't see the "umph" i see from his brother.
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Post by: Don Jacob on August 28, 2004, 01:29:35 PM
i think Eli will be good , IMO he has the potential to be better than Payton
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Post by: The Big Bad Ass on August 29, 2004, 02:56:17 AM
Peyton says Eli has more ability than he does. Don't know if Eli has the field sense that Peyton does tho. Or the work ethic for that matter.
Title: Re: Who do you think is the worst run organization in sports
Post by: .:DayGoStyLz:. on September 01, 2004, 09:08:05 PM
Peyton says Eli has more ability than he does. Don't know if Eli has the field sense that Peyton does tho. Or the work ethic for that matter.

or the offense...
Title: Re: Who do you think is the worst run organization in sports
Post by: .:DayGoStyLz:. on September 01, 2004, 09:10:13 PM
I bet Eli Manning is gonna flop. I don't see the "umph" i see from his brother.

it depends on your idea of a flop i think. The expectations for him are pretty high because of his brother. So if he's anything less then great, he's gonna be considered a flop u know? If he becomes a solid quarterback, but not the best in the league is he still a flop? Anyways....fuck him, and anybody else who isnt a Raider  ;D
Title: Re: Who do you think is the worst run organization in sports
Post by: eS El Duque on September 02, 2004, 05:18:55 AM
I bet Eli Manning is gonna flop. I don't see the "umph" i see from his brother.

it depends on your idea of a flop i think. The expectations for him are pretty high because of his brother. So if he's anything less then great, he's gonna be considered a flop u know? If he becomes a solid quarterback, but not the best in the league is he still a flop? Anyways....fuck him, and anybody else who isnt a Raider  ;D

he got a 20 million signing bonus...I mean, if he don't have a great season...he's a flop  :D
Title: Re: Who do you think is the worst run organization in sports
Post by: KING VerbalAssaulta on September 03, 2004, 03:53:38 PM
My hometown Pittsburgh Pirates, Havent had a winning season in like 12 years, keeps the same freaking manager when he does nothing(lloyd mcclendon), trades away any player that starts showing potential(Jason Schmidt, Brina Giles just to name a few), It seems they are always rebuilding, trying to develop players and never get anywhere....always making bad contracts...like 60 million to freakin jason kendall....OH AND THE NUMBER ONE REASON....10 YEARS AGO YOU HAD A CHOICE TO SIGN EITHER BARRY BONDS OR ANDY VANSLYKE....AND YOU CHOOSE VANSLYKE$^%(*&^)*^)  JESUS CHRIST....I WAS SO PISSED THEN AND IT STILL PISSES ME OFF...WE COULD BE WATCHIN THE GREATEST PLAYER EVER...BUT NO AT THE TIME WE SAVED LIKE A MILLION A YEAR( vanslyke got 5 million a year and bonds took 7 years at 49 million....wich would have been a bargain)
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Post by: eS El Duque on September 03, 2004, 06:11:44 PM
that is horrible ^^^^
Title: Re: Who do you think is the worst run organization in sports
Post by: .:DayGoStyLz:. on September 04, 2004, 02:01:53 AM
My hometown Pittsburgh Pirates, Havent had a winning season in like 12 years, keeps the same freaking manager when he does nothing(lloyd mcclendon), trades away any player that starts showing potential(Jason Schmidt, Brina Giles just to name a few), It seems they are always rebuilding, trying to develop players and never get anywhere....always making bad contracts...like 60 million to freakin jason kendall....OH AND THE NUMBER ONE REASON....10 YEARS AGO YOU HAD A CHOICE TO SIGN EITHER BARRY BONDS OR ANDY VANSLYKE....AND YOU CHOOSE VANSLYKE$^%(*&^)*^)  JESUS CHRIST....I WAS SO PISSED THEN AND IT STILL PISSES ME OFF...WE COULD BE WATCHIN THE GREATEST PLAYER EVER...BUT NO AT THE TIME WE SAVED LIKE A MILLION A YEAR( vanslyke got 5 million a year and bonds took 7 years at 49 million....wich would have been a bargain)

yah but Van Slyke was a solid player.  ;D