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DUBCC - Tha Connection => Outbound Connection => Topic started by: Semir on August 26, 2004, 03:08:31 PM
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The summer’s almost over but Queen Latifah is inviting you to “The Cook Out.” Starring Danny Glover, Meagan Goode, Flavor Unit affiliate Storm P and Ja Rule, the family-friendly flick opens September 3.
“This is a different role for me,” explains Ja about playing thug Bling Bling. “I’ve been playing serious characters and this is someone with a light side to him.”
Ja’s next album, R.U.L.E. drops November 9 and features R. Kelly, Mary, Ashanti, Jadakiss, Fat Joe, Trick Daddy, Scarface and more.
As for his feud with 50, “It’s over. It’s a feud that’s been going on for the last year and a half. He has a lot of other feuds that he needs to address. I’m always here, in the wing doing what I do. And I hope he continues to do what he does cause it’s a crazy business. And I think he’s going to see that in a year or so.
“I’m in a comfortable zone. Cause now I’m the underdog. As funny as that may seem after all the success I’ve had, now I’m the underdog and people are rooting for me. It’s a beautiful thing. And it’s funny how karma’s a motherf***er. Things you do come back to bite you in the a** sometimes. When you shell out bad energy sometimes you get it back. Not to say that I’ve shelled out bad energy in the past. I’ve always been a good person. I’ve had some bad energy brought on me over the last year and a half. But like I said, when you give it out it comes back. And everybody’s on his a** right now, Shyne, Nas … I got jumped last year. Everybody was on my ass. Now go get on his ass.
“I still do what I do. I never lost the talent. I make beautiful records. Artists still call me and say, ‘Yo, Ja I need a hit.’ As long as you can put out that kind of output or input in this music industry, you are a well-received and well-respected artist. I think I’m a very well respected artist, it’s just how people receive me.
“I’m all heart. Nothing deters me, nothing stops me. F**k you, I’ll be there. I’ll see you there. And you got to be that way in this business.”
Rule runs a film company, Focus Vision which has already completed “Back In The Day” with Ving Rhames.
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Im the underdog and people are rooting for me.
aint nobody rootin for u, not a damn soul
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Rule speakin for real
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Im the underdog and people are rooting for me.
aint nobody rootin for u, not a damn soul
Nah, there's still plenty of people rooting for him, just not nearly as much after 50 Cent came into the picture. Looks like Ja has smartened up a little bit. He should've ignored the whole beef to begin with because he definitely came on the losing end of that battle. Look at Diddy for example. The guy ignores any hate that's thrown his way and in the end he comes out on top everytime. Ja should've just kept making those R&B/rap hybrids that he was making.
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Rule speakin for real
Yeah, props for realizing that he lost the 1st round.. he sounds a little bitter though.
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mayne that secret service dude he played in scary movie 3 was a serious character?
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YEAH FUCK
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mayne that secret service dude he played in scary movie 3 was a serious character?
lmao
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Rule speakin for real
Yeah, props for realizing that he lost the 1st round.. he sounds a little bitter though.
lol. exactly. Don't think there's gonna be a 2nd round, though. It was a knockout.
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Real talk right there. Karma is a motherfucker.. glad to see hes optimistic and is coming back , and i agree wit peeps saying he should have ignored beef to begin with..
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Rule speakin for real
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Rule speakin for real
Yeah, props for realizing that he lost the 1st round.. he sounds a little bitter though.
lol man whatever. "Lose Change" and "Change Gon Come" were the best songs out that battle. But I wouldnt expect you to admit that seeing your God 50 hates Ja.
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lol man whatever. "Lose Change" and "Change Gon Come" were the best songs out that battle. But I wouldnt expect you to admit that seeing your God 50 hates Ja.
Your precious boy admitted it himself, you ain't gotta be a genius to see who won that battle.
He basically said "Yeah I lost, so now I'm the underdog, I'll come back though".
Just because you're in love with the man, doesn't mean that you should just shut your eyes to the outcome of the battle.
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Rule speakin for real
Yeah, props for realizing that he lost the 1st round.. he sounds a little bitter though.
lol man whatever. "Lose Change" and "Change Gon Come" were the best songs out that battle. But I wouldnt expect you to admit that seeing your God 50 hates Ja.
OMG....FINALLY SOMEONE WHO ISNT BLINDED BY THE WHITNESS OF EMINEM AND ACTUALLY LISTENED TO THE MUSIC AND THE WORDS AND SAW Ja ripped EM & 50 new ones.....Seriously, can someone please give me a line better than this one....Eminem was Dead once this verse was dropped
EM, You Claim Your Mothers A Crackhead and Kim is A Known Slut, So Whats Hailey gon Be When she Grows Up?
I hate both of them, but ja came out on top in this battle, hands down....and he came out hard on "Blood in My Eyes"....All Dope Tracks, the best diss Cd ive ever heard.....but its not like any 50 cent or eminem fan would give a fuck to even bother to listen....
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^real talk
I didnt even like Ja Rule until he dropped "Lose Change". Jome, dont believe me? Search my old post on the DPG forum.
But its funny, you love everything G-Unit affiliated, and you dislike Ja Rule, Bang Em Smurf & Domination, and pretty much everybody else who disses G-Unit, but you callin me a groupie. Lol. I hope dickrydin becomes a sport, you'd be rich.
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i thought they both made some pretty good diss records, but Ja lost it for me with this line from Loose Change:
"M-U-R-E-D-R INC"
i mean damn, if you cant even spell the name of your own label, you are a dumbass... 8)
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I didnt even like Ja Rule until he dropped "Lose Change". Jome, dont believe me? Search my old post on the DPG forum.
But its funny, you love everything G-Unit affiliated, and you dislike Ja Rule, Bang Em Smurf & Domination, and pretty much everybody else who disses G-Unit, but you callin me a groupie. Lol. I hope dickrydin becomes a sport, you'd be rich.
So what.. ?
I liked Ja Rule's earlier shit, and it seems with the "New York" track that he's going back to hiphop, so that's cool, I'm just not that 1-sided like you are, and LMAO @ liking Ja Rule only for "Loose Change", that's FAR from the best track he had, you're just a teenage follower.
I like Yukmouth, Ghostface, RZA, Nas they all dissed 50.. at least they all have a career, in contrast to those who try to build their career and character on dissing 50/G-Unit. *Cough Budden, Smurf, Domo, Saigon, etc.*
The only way someone can think B. Smurf & Dominatrix is dope, is if they're in love with G-Unit disstracks, because that's the only thing they do.. lmao.
And I didn't like the Young Buck album at all, so where's your arguments.. ?
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"Blood in My Eyes"....All Dope Tracks, the best diss Cd ive ever heard.....
lol.. tells how serious the rest of your post is to be taken
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ok.. who won the battle... 50... who sold a fuckload of records and made ja look like a fool, or ja, who basiccaly had most of his fans turn on him, and is nowere...
im not taking sides, they are all corny to me,
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Ja Rule is a piece of shit 50 won the battle.. But Domination took a shit on 50 and every member of G Unit
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why did they have beef anyways?
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I didnt even like Ja Rule until he dropped "Lose Change". Jome, dont believe me? Search my old post on the DPG forum.
But its funny, you love everything G-Unit affiliated, and you dislike Ja Rule, Bang Em Smurf & Domination, and pretty much everybody else who disses G-Unit, but you callin me a groupie. Lol. I hope dickrydin becomes a sport, you'd be rich.
So what.. ?
I liked Ja Rule's earlier shit, and it seems with the "New York" track that he's going back to hiphop, so that's cool, I'm just not that 1-sided like you are, and LMAO @ liking Ja Rule only for "Loose Change", that's FAR from the best track he had, you're just a teenage follower.
I like Yukmouth, Ghostface, RZA, Nas they all dissed 50.. at least they all have a career, in contrast to those who try to build their career and character on dissing 50/G-Unit. *Cough Budden, Smurf, Domo, Saigon, etc.*
The only way someone can think B. Smurf & Dominatrix is dope, is if they're in love with G-Unit disstracks, because that's the only thing they do.. lmao.
And I didn't like the Young Buck album at all, so where's your arguments.. ?
Dominations flow is nice, but Im not suprised Jome BANKS doesnt like him. And I didnt say "Lose Change" was his best track, that was the first track Ja dropped that made me listen to him, cuz before that everything was love songs. A few post back you said Buck's album was good but not as good as your boyfrien...I mean not as good as Lloyd Banks.
"Get Rich or Die Tryin" was good, every album G-Unit dropped after that sucked. Even they mixtapes is full of love songs.
50 Cent = LL Cool J + Mase + Ja Rule
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^^ LOL, don't take it to heart, you're tripping a little too much over this.
Even ya boy Ja admitted the defeat, how you gon argue with that.. ??
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I didnt even like Ja Rule until he dropped "Lose Change". Jome, dont believe me? Search my old post on the DPG forum.
But its funny, you love everything G-Unit affiliated, and you dislike Ja Rule, Bang Em Smurf & Domination, and pretty much everybody else who disses G-Unit, but you callin me a groupie. Lol. I hope dickrydin becomes a sport, you'd be rich.
So what.. ?
I liked Ja Rule's earlier shit, and it seems with the "New York" track that he's going back to hiphop, so that's cool, I'm just not that 1-sided like you are, and LMAO @ liking Ja Rule only for "Loose Change", that's FAR from the best track he had, you're just a teenage follower.
I like Yukmouth, Ghostface, RZA, Nas they all dissed 50.. at least they all have a career, in contrast to those who try to build their career and character on dissing 50/G-Unit. *Cough Budden, Smurf, Domo, Saigon, etc.*
The only way someone can think B. Smurf & Dominatrix is dope, is if they're in love with G-Unit disstracks, because that's the only thing they do.. lmao.
And I didn't like the Young Buck album at all, so where's your arguments.. ?
Dominations flow is nice, but Im not suprised Jome BANKS doesnt like him. And I didnt say "Lose Change" was his best track, that was the first track Ja dropped that made me listen to him, cuz before that everything was love songs. A few post back you said Buck's album was good but not as good as your boyfrien...I mean not as good as Lloyd Banks.
"Get Rich or Die Tryin" was good, every album G-Unit dropped after that sucked. Even they mixtapes is full of love songs.
50 Cent = LL Cool J + Mase + Ja Rule
You said you like Ja Rule, and now you say 50 cent = ll cool j + Mase + Ja Rule...so you like 1/3 of 50????
and if Jome was sucking Banks dick, wouldn't he have listed Banks album #1 on his top 5 albums of the year?
Dude, you're just full of hate.
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1) 50 wanted Ja out the picture so he can takeover as the singin/thug guy. I like 50 but I aint gone dickryde homie like most of yall do
2)After you name yourself after another rapper (Jome Banks) you dont have to list there name on anything.
3) Hate? lol this is just an internet debate. if you, him, or anyone else is upset then thats on them. Why would I get mad about someone who I dont know. when it all comes down to it - fuck Ja Rule, fuck 50 Cent, and fuck everyone else in the industry. i listen to the cats but I aint commmited
and besides, nobody was talkin to you
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2)After you name yourself after another rapper (Jome Banks) you dont have to list there name on anything.
Yeah, I was Jome Banks, so what.. ??
I was Pharoahe Jome, Bullet Jome (After Jayo), Royce Jome, Tray Jome, Goldie Jome, Tech Jome, Ras Jome, Immortal Jome, Funk Jome, LiL Jome (LiL Fame), Kool G Jome, etc.
It's just a funny gimmick, it's just a few of the rappers I'm currently playing in the stereo, don't make a big ass deal out of it like that rat sgv.
Some foos gotta take everything serious..
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3) Hate? lol this is just an internet debate. if you, him, or anyone else is upset then thats on them. Why would I get mad about someone who I dont know. when it all comes down to it - fuck Ja Rule, fuck 50 Cent, and fuck everyone else in the industry. i listen to the cats but I aint commmited
and besides, nobody was talkin to you
lol, man i aint upset, i just find it funny.
and this is the internet and a FORUM. so nobody has to be talkin to me for to reply to a msg.
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"Blood in My Eyes"....All Dope Tracks, the best diss Cd ive ever heard.....
lol.. tells how serious the rest of your post is to be taken
Bet You Havent even listened to a track off the album, i dont want to hear anything negative untill you've actually heard the album, dick ridin faggot
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Let's see, 50 put Budden on blast in XXL and then sent Game to diss him. So, Budden has no other choice but to respond. Yet, Jome says it's for publicity. I guess Game dissed for honor? I guess 50 put him on blast because of his love for Hip Hop? LMAO. All of guilty of dissing for publicity.
Domo and Smurf KNOW 50. Smurf was 50's right hand man. There is A LOT more to it than you know. It's not even music, it's a street beef(and, it might just end in the streets). But, you're right, it's not a publicity stunt for 50 to diss Ja and people down with him(remember your reasoning for 50's dissing R.Kelly?).
Saigon actually shouts(or shouted) 50 and G-Unit. I think he's just over the whole "I Got Shot, I'm A Gangsta" gimmick. They were/are coo with each other, their might be something to it that we don't know about.
50 is getting the same treatment he gave the industry. Serious or not, he made a track dissing people, for publicity. He piggie backed Ja's success(as well as Dre and Em's names) to blow up like that. But, Jome will overlook that.
See, Battles aren't determined by sales or popularity. They're determined by diss records. Ja's records held more weight than 50's, period. The people who say Ja won will almost always give lyrical examples why. People saying 50 will usually bring up sales or popularity. I think what solidified Ja's victory is what 50 has become. Ja Jr. 50 is serenading women, the same thing he dissed Ja for, is what he has become. So, he took an L and took Ja's steez, it's not hard to see.
Ja is NOT admitting to losing, he's being the bigger man, which to people like Jome & Game(people who take things WAY too literal and like to gloat), makes them the loser. No! Ja is saying that the roles have changed. He was once the most hated in the industry, he was once the most popular and successful participant in their beef. But, 50 is in Ja's place and Ja is in 50's place. Ja is now what 50 once was, the Underdog. It's simple logic.
As for Domination. The cat has a HOT flow. He is very witty, he's one of the few emcees that literally makes me laugh. His only fault, with cats here, is he's beefing with G-Unit/Shady/Aftermath. That's a no no around here. See, you're either a dickrider or you're not. There's no medium at Dubcc. You either love everything Dre and them do or you're able to seperate yourself from the music and be a Fan. Cats like me, Strong Bad, Baby G, etc. can actually like the music for the music. Others here, and they know who they are, will beef with whoever Em, 50 etc. is beefing with.
Jome is right about one thing though. He doesn't like EVERYTHING that is Dre/50 affiliated. There is one exception that Jome will always make. If it's Southern, it's not good(Scarface and couple others aside, according to him). If Buck was from the Bronx, kept the same lyrics but had an East Coast voice, he'd love him. Same can be said for Stat Quo. That's one bias that he has, that over shadows his love for Dre and 50.
What is funny to me is that almost all of the G-Unit/Shady/Aftermath cats diss for publicity, but they get a pass. Dre dissed Eazy for publicity. Eazy was already known as a solo artist, Dre was making his name as a solo artist. He wasn't Dre of N.W.A., he was just Dre. He had to make a name, so who better to beef with? Eazy. Yes, they had a real problem, but if it was that much of problem it could've been handled off wax. Eminem dissed every pop star known to man, again, for publicity. 50, "How To Rob," enough said. Game, he's been dissing Bleek and Budden for other reasons than personal. He dissed Bleek for JT and he dissed Budden for 50. Almost all of his material will have a shot to someone. Game disses for publicity. But, this is never brought up, why?
Jome will respond to this with his predictable "S.G.V. you're a hater" style post. But, let me help him out here. A hater wouldn't listen to 50 records and would just automatically say its wack. I bumped Get Rich... and as a matter of fact, I'll listen to it from time to time. There was some ill production on it. I thought the G-Unit album was garbage(I'm sure most people, except Jome of course, will say the same), for the exception of a few tracks. Banks' album was A LOT better than I expected, but still wasn't that great. Although, "Warrior" is a top 5 track for me this year(oh man! I'm such a hater!!!!!!!!). I also dug Buck's album something serious. That shit knocks. A hater would NEVER admit to any of that.
To end this, until FANS can seperate themselves from the music, they'll be considered Dickriders.
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LOL, here's this moron again.
Why you leave the board every time your posts get torn apart and humiliated.. ?
Time to delete your account again.. for the 3rd or 4th time.. ?
I know I ain't gonna be reading those essays.. :D
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Uh...LOL. Nothing else to say huh Jome? It's ok to admit that you can't reply to simple logic.
Where have my posts been "torn apart" and when have I been "humiliated"?
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Let's see, 50 put Budden on blast in XXL and then sent Game to diss him. So, Budden has no other choice but to respond. Yet, Jome says it's for publicity. I guess Game dissed for honor? I guess 50 put him on blast because of his love for Hip Hop? LMAO. All of guilty of dissing for publicity.
Game dissed Budden because Budden got on a Game freestlye and dissed G-Unit. It had nothing to do with 50 and XXL. In fact, Game was staying out of that beef until Budden pulled that stunt.
50 is getting the same treatment he gave the industry. Serious or not, he made a track dissing people, for publicity. He piggie backed Ja's success(as well as Dre and Em's names) to blow up like that. But, Jome will overlook that.
Yes, he dissed others when they were on top and now others are dissing him when he's on top. I don't see your point here.
See, Battles aren't determined by sales or popularity. They're determined by diss records. Ja's records held more weight than 50's, period. The people who say Ja won will almost always give lyrical examples why. People saying 50 will usually bring up sales or popularity. I think what solidified Ja's victory is what 50 has become. Ja Jr. 50 is serenading women, the same thing he dissed Ja for, is what he has become. So, he took an L and took Ja's steez, it's not hard to see.
You're seriously dillusional if you think Ja won those battles. Battles aren't determined by sales or popularity? Maybe. But the facts are this: Ja was on top, 50 was a nobody. They started feuding with both of them doing diss records. In the end most of the fans turned on Ja and hopped on 50s bandwagon. If Ja really held more weight or won the battles on wax, most of the people would not have turned on him so quickly or in such large numbers. Just because you say otherwise, the results prove you wrong. Sales and popularity are an indication of who's records are holding more weight, and 50 won that hands down.
Ja is NOT admitting to losing, he's being the bigger man
Ja a bigger man? You can't be serious. If he was the bigger man he would've ignored 50 to start with. Instead he feuded with him for a year and even put out a WHOLE CD dissing 50. 50 only had one song dedicated to Ja on his album. Ja is far from the bigger man. He just realized that pursuing this beef hasn't helped him or Murder Inc. any and he's deciding to pull out while he still can.
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Budden and 50 had been going back and forth for a minute. The track in question added fuel to the flame, but I still doubt Budden was dissing them.
My point was: 50 is getting back what he gave others. It's karma, like Ja stated.
Dre and Snoop remained more popular than the Ruthless cats, but does that mean "Real Muthaphukkin' G'z" didn't destroy them?
Maybe you tuned in a little late, but 50 had dissed Ja a number of times, prior to even blowing up. Their beef is deeper than Music. But, Ja is the bigger man for moving on.
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Let's see, 50 put Budden on blast in XXL and then sent Game to diss him. So, Budden has no other choice but to respond. Yet, Jome says it's for publicity. I guess Game dissed for honor? I guess 50 put him on blast because of his love for Hip Hop? LMAO. All of guilty of dissing for publicity.
Domo and Smurf KNOW 50. Smurf was 50's right hand man. There is A LOT more to it than you know. It's not even music, it's a street beef(and, it might just end in the streets). But, you're right, it's not a publicity stunt for 50 to diss Ja and people down with him(remember your reasoning for 50's dissing R.Kelly?).
Saigon actually shouts(or shouted) 50 and G-Unit. I think he's just over the whole "I Got Shot, I'm A Gangsta" gimmick. They were/are coo with each other, their might be something to it that we don't know about.
50 is getting the same treatment he gave the industry. Serious or not, he made a track dissing people, for publicity. He piggie backed Ja's success(as well as Dre and Em's names) to blow up like that. But, Jome will overlook that.
See, Battles aren't determined by sales or popularity. They're determined by diss records. Ja's records held more weight than 50's, period. The people who say Ja won will almost always give lyrical examples why. People saying 50 will usually bring up sales or popularity. I think what solidified Ja's victory is what 50 has become. Ja Jr. 50 is serenading women, the same thing he dissed Ja for, is what he has become. So, he took an L and took Ja's steez, it's not hard to see.
Ja is NOT admitting to losing, he's being the bigger man, which to people like Jome & Game(people who take things WAY too literal and like to gloat), makes them the loser. No! Ja is saying that the roles have changed. He was once the most hated in the industry, he was once the most popular and successful participant in their beef. But, 50 is in Ja's place and Ja is in 50's place. Ja is now what 50 once was, the Underdog. It's simple logic.
As for Domination. The cat has a HOT flow. He is very witty, he's one of the few emcees that literally makes me laugh. His only fault, with cats here, is he's beefing with G-Unit/Shady/Aftermath. That's a no no around here. See, you're either a dickrider or you're not. There's no medium at Dubcc. You either love everything Dre and them do or you're able to seperate yourself from the music and be a Fan. Cats like me, Strong Bad, Baby G, etc. can actually like the music for the music. Others here, and they know who they are, will beef with whoever Em, 50 etc. is beefing with.
Jome is right about one thing though. He doesn't like EVERYTHING that is Dre/50 affiliated. There is one exception that Jome will always make. If it's Southern, it's not good(Scarface and couple others aside, according to him). If Buck was from the Bronx, kept the same lyrics but had an East Coast voice, he'd love him. Same can be said for Stat Quo. That's one bias that he has, that over shadows his love for Dre and 50.
What is funny to me is that almost all of the G-Unit/Shady/Aftermath cats diss for publicity, but they get a pass. Dre dissed Eazy for publicity. Eazy was already known as a solo artist, Dre was making his name as a solo artist. He wasn't Dre of N.W.A., he was just Dre. He had to make a name, so who better to beef with? Eazy. Yes, they had a real problem, but if it was that much of problem it could've been handled off wax. Eminem dissed every pop star known to man, again, for publicity. 50, "How To Rob," enough said. Game, he's been dissing Bleek and Budden for other reasons than personal. He dissed Bleek for JT and he dissed Budden for 50. Almost all of his material will have a shot to someone. Game disses for publicity. But, this is never brought up, why?
Jome will respond to this with his predictable "S.G.V. you're a hater" style post. But, let me help him out here. A hater wouldn't listen to 50 records and would just automatically say its wack. I bumped Get Rich... and as a matter of fact, I'll listen to it from time to time. There was some ill production on it. I thought the G-Unit album was garbage(I'm sure most people, except Jome of course, will say the same), for the exception of a few tracks. Banks' album was A LOT better than I expected, but still wasn't that great. Although, "Warrior" is a top 5 track for me this year(oh man! I'm such a hater!!!!!!!!). I also dug Buck's album something serious. That shit knocks. A hater would NEVER admit to any of that.
To end this, until FANS can seperate themselves from the music, they'll be considered Dickriders.
* claps, finally some truth