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Lifestyle => Sports & Entertainment => Topic started by: Don Seer on August 28, 2004, 10:10:48 AM
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forgive my ignorance if this is a silly q..i'm just curious.
just wondered... what with how the olypmics are now..
in football (soccer.. bleh) this happened and means the market is now worldwide..
the world cup can 'break' new players into the market.
could a lot of foriegn bball stars from the olympics end up in NBA teams next season?
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i'm pretty sure thats possible
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if it is.. is it not very common right now?
i saw something about a guy from another team being an NBA player..
but i wonder if scouts have their eyes on cheap foreign imports ;)
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it is... as far as i know there are 2 dutch players in the nba :P also, that tall chinese guy (not a joke) for example isn't an american.
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u mean yao ming
maybe the NBA will become more diverse... over here football teams seem 50/50, or worse (arsenal are nearly all french arent they? lol)
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dirk nowitzki from dallas maveriks is german...
toni kukoc (chicago bulls, not sure if he still plays there) is croatian
detlef schrempf, i think hes retired, but he used to play for seattle, he was german too - maybe he became american somehow...
i think everybody can play in the NBA, no matter what race of what country hes from AS LONG AS HE PLAYS GOOD ENOUGH (without cheating of course, doping etc.) - thats the only limitation
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International players in the NBA are becoming more common. Argentina has two players, different countries are adding players. Who knows, the NBA might turn into Baseball, which in the United States is now majority Latin, as the most common last name is Martinez, but I doubt that. Black Americans seem to have a strong hold on the NBA game, but international players are becoming more and more common. NHL is internation, MLB is inter-American, NBA is becoming internation, the NFL is the only U.S. strong hold left.
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u mean yao ming
maybe the NBA will become more diverse... over here football teams seem 50/50, or worse (arsenal are nearly all french arent they? lol)
yeah its like france national football team ;D
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Lithuania has 1 NBA player..and he's not evena starter...so I could see more Lithuania players coming to the NBA the next few seasons lol
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there has been an increase of euro players in the NBA since the early 90's
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basketball is the fastest growing sport in the world aint it?
gonna be a worldwide market..
soccer is huge already... i think partly because soccer is cheaper for people in developing countries.. how hard to make a ball? i heard they just use bundles clothes in some places..
basketball only requires a lil more equipment since u cant make a decent ball out of anything..
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yeah there's a lot of foriegn playres in the NBA right now but most of them are bench warmers and 6th men . the only really big stars in the NBA from foriegn countries that even do anything is, Peja Stojakavic, Dirk Nowitski , and sometimes Yoa Ming and Manu Ginobli
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Man there are 2 Lithuanian players in the NBA, the other is Cleveland's Ilgauskas. Anyway y'all forgot about Divac and Sabonis, Drazen Petrovic (RIP), Detlef Schrempf, Hakeem Olajuwon, Kukoc, Tony Parker, Danilovic, Nenè, Olowokandi, etc.. There are always foreign players in the NBA. But once there was a lil bit of racism against them (you know: it's like for a Chinese to play soccer in Italy. He's considered funny, an attraction, but nobody really think he can be a great player). Then Kukoc and Divac changed it a lil bit. Then USA started to loose some games. Then Europe started to produce players like Stojakovic, Gasol, Nowitsky, etc. Then Dallas started to have more foreign players than Americans (lol). Now Europeans are top picks in the draft, and everybody wanna try to get "the next Gasol", or "the next Parker", or "the next Stojakovic", etc..
Anyway i think this Olympic games are a good exposure more for the Euroleague (European Champions League) than the NBA.
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There are always foreign players in the NBA. But once there was a lil bit of racism against them (you know: it's like for a Chinese to play soccer in Italy. He's considered funny, an attraction, but nobody really think he can be a great player).
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Damn, that reminds me..who was teh asian player on Parma (or was it juve?) a few years ago??? When i saw him i was like..."whats an asian guy doing there?"
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There are always foreign players in the NBA. But once there was a lil bit of racism against them (you know: it's like for a Chinese to play soccer in Italy. He's considered funny, an attraction, but nobody really think he can be a great player).
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Damn, that reminds me..who was teh asian player on Parma (or was it juve?) a few years ago??? When i saw him i was like..."whats an asian guy doing there?"
First one from Asia to play in Italy was been Kazu Miura (Japan), in Genoa. Like 10 years ago. Then we've had Ahn (Korean), Nakata (Japanese) and Yaganisawa (Japanese). Not great players. ;D
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if it is.. is it not very common right now?
i saw something about a guy from another team being an NBA player..
but i wonder if scouts have their eyes on cheap foreign imports ;)
take yao as an example hes not a american they took his rice eatin ass from china to play in the USA
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Nash and Fox are Canadian.
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To be honest, you got all these blacks from urban areas that grew up playing ball, and they're just better and more athletic than hardly anybody else in the world. A lot of these guys haven't done a damn thing BUT play Basketball since they were 5, and they're just flat out better than someone who hasn't practiced for hours, for nearly 15 years, you know? So not only are there not TONS of foriegn players, there aren't tons of white players, either, because they typically aren't from an urban area, and the black players that are have much more skill @ playing.
Baseball's pretty incredibly diverse, there's a lot of south american and latin players, similar reasons, they play a lot of ball down there as kids and end up just better than anybody else because they've played so much.
Practice Practice Practice
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Player (Team) Country
Tariq Abdul-Wahad, Dallas France
Robert Archibald, Toronto Scotland
Carlos Arroyo, Utah Puerto Rico
Leandro Barbosa, Phoenix Brazil
Raja Bell, Utah U.S. Virgin Islands
Ruben Boumtje Boumtje, Cleveland Cameroon
Primoz Brezec, Indiana Slovenia
Zarko Cabarkapa, Phoenix Serbia and Montenegro
Samuel Dalembert, Philadelphia Haiti
Boris Diaw, Atlanta France
DeSagana Diop, Cleveland Senegal
Vlade Divac, Sacramento Serbia and Montenegro
Predrag Drobnjak, L.A. Clippers Serbia and Montenegro
Tim Duncan, San Antonio U.S. Virgin Islands
Ndudi Ebi (1), Minnesota England
Obinna Ekezie, Atlanta Nigeria
Francisco Elson, Denver Netherlands
Rick Fox (2), L.A. Lakers Canada
Adonal Foyle, Golden State St. Vincent and the Grenadines
Dan Gadzuric, Milwaukee Netherlands
Alex Garcia, San Antonio Brazil
Pau Gasol, Memphis Spain
Emanuel Ginobili, San Antonio Argentina
Gordan Giricek, Utah Croatia
Zydrunas Ilgauskas, Cleveland Lithuania
Marko Jaric, L.A. Clippers Serbia and Montenegro
Andrei Kirilenko, Utah Russia
Toni Kukoc, Milwaukee Croatia
Maciej Lampe, Phoenix Poland
Raul Lopez, Utah Spain
Todd MacCulloch, Philadelphia Canada
Jamaal Magloire, New Orleans Canada
Sean Marks, San Antonio New Zealand
Stanislav Medvedenko, L.A. Lakers Ukraine
Darko Milicic, Detroit Serbia and Montenegro
Jerome Moiso, Toronto France
Dikembe Mutombo, New York Congo
Bostjan Nachbar, Houston Slovenia
Eduardo Najera, Dallas Mexico
Steve Nash, Dallas Canada
Mamadou N'diaye, Atlanta Senegal
Nenê, Denver Brazil
Rasho Nesterovic, San Antonio Slovenia
Dirk Nowitzki, Dallas Germany
Mehmet Okur, Detroit Turkey
Michael Olowokandi (3), Minnesota Nigeria
Zaza Pachulia, Orlando Georgia
Milt Palacio, Toronto Belize
Tony Parker (4), San Antonio France
Aleksandar Pavlovic, Utah Serbia and Montenegro
Mickael Pietrus, Golden State France
Zoran Planinic (5), New Jersey Croatia
Vitaly Potapenko, Seattle Ukraine
Vladimir Radmanovic (6), Seattle Serbia and Montenegro
Zeljko Rebraca, Atlanta Serbia and Montenegro
Daniel Santiago, Milwaukee Puerto Rico
Darius Songaila, Sacramento Lithuania
Jon Stefansson, Dallas Iceland
Vladimir Stepania, Portland Georgia
Peja Stojakovic, Sacramento Serbia and Montenegro
Cezary Trybanski, New York Poland
Jake Tsakalidis, Memphis Greece
Nikoloz Tskitishvili, Denver Georgia
Hedo Turkoglu, San Antonio Turkey
Wang Zhizhi, Miami China
Jiri Welsch, Boston Czech Republic
Yao Ming, Houston China
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To be honest, you got all these blacks from urban areas that grew up playing ball, and they're just better and more athletic than hardly anybody else in the world. A lot of these guys haven't done a damn thing BUT play Basketball since they were 5, and they're just flat out better than someone who hasn't practiced for hours, for nearly 15 years, you know? So not only are there not TONS of foriegn players, there aren't tons of white players, either, because they typically aren't from an urban area, and the black players that are have much more skill @ playing.
Baseball's pretty incredibly diverse, there's a lot of south american and latin players, similar reasons, they play a lot of ball down there as kids and end up just better than anybody else because they've played so much.
Practice Practice Practice
True. In Latin America, they play baseball all day... with rocks and sticks... whatever they can find. In the U.S., one black kid has a ball... and the whole neighborhood plays all day. Go to a park... and it's nothin but black kids... little 7 year olds doing And1 tricks... and their older brothers just playing all day long. Every summer... the parks are filled... and it's crazy. On our local parks... the Millers used to hustle the shit outta people in the 80's, a girl and a skinny ass boy challenging older guys... and placing bets... and of course the Millers would win. That's U.S. basketball. The Puerto Rican team actually had a lot of players that played street ball in New York. European basketball of course will always been more technical... and the media will of course say we need to go back to passing... but one on one... still no one can beat a United States player.
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Sean Marks, San Antonio New Zealand............Woop_woop. I know this dude was playing college ball in the US b4 he made it in the NBA.
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but one on one... still no one can beat a United States player.
Man black guys raise up playing street basketball. White men raise up playing gym basketball.
Black guys learn fast how to dunk with 1 hand, white guys learn fast how to make profit from a pick n roll, or how to shoot from 3pts.
Black guys love to defend 1 on 1, phisically. White guys knows zone defence better than Tex Winter!
It's like that. It's a totally different view of playing basketball.
It's like soccer: Brazilians learn fast how to pass the ball, dribble, attack, score. Italians learn fast how to defend, make pressing, offsides and how to dive.
Two different ways to play soccer. Both are good. Obviously 1 on 1 a Brazilian player can do more damage than an Italian one, dribbling him, making those special moves with the ball, etc.. But as a team, Italy sometimes beats Brazil.
It's the same with bball.
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^exactly.
sorry to say that, but most black americans play to look good and whites (especially Europeans) look to play good. you know? it's like they go for the hard dunk when the other ones rather go for the secure lay-up, stuff like this.
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wow we are just sterotyping like crazy... all black people dont play the same, just as all white people dont play the same...and ^^7even, were the fuck do u come off saying that, saying most... u call people ignorant, and then u post shit like that... how do u figure, and what is your statistic of most, 80%? 90%??
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A lot of it has to due where you grew up too. A white kid growing up in an urban area is goin try an play the ball a black kid in the park is playing. I think a lot of it has to do where you grow up 2.
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A lot of it has to due where you grew up too. A white kid growing up in an urban area is goin try an play the ball a black kid in the park is playing. I think a lot of it has to do where you grow up 2.
Yeah, obviously. But in Europe people start playing bball in a gym, 3 times a week, with minibasket and shit. No playground, but REGULAR basketball. In the States, most of the people start playing bball in the street, close to their home, or at the school, where there's a rim on the wall, and they can shoot or play 1 on 1, or 3 on 3. 3 on 3 KILLS basketball. When you raise up playing 3 on 3, you cant play 5 on 5 no more!! Cause playing 3 on 3 means you have to outscore your opponent, going always 1 on 1 or playing only with your body. You aint double-teamed. Opponents cant play zone defence. They cant make pick n rolls or schemes. 3 on 3 it's just who has more skills wins. That's totally a different concept. In Europe you raise up in a gym with a team. And you only play 5 on 5. It's a team! Team concept.
Then americans move to the playgrounds. Then they go to school (college-Uni) and they start to play bball in a team for the first time there.
I started playing in a real team, in a gym and everything when i was 5. FIVE. I grew up in a gym, playing schemes till i was 9 years old, using pick n roll's till i was 12, playing zone pressure since i was 14. When i was 18, i was totally mature as a player, knowing the game, all the schemes, how to defend on zone, how to make lay-ups with the left hand and not being blocked, how to use a pick n roll, how to shoot from 3pts, how to make a FT (Italy had the best percentace from FT and 3pts in the Olympic tournment), etc.
Feel me? At 18 i was a PERFECT player.
Only difference between me as a 18 years old player and a 18 years old black guy is that the black guy plays OVER the rim and i play UNDER the rim. I dunk, but i've never dunked in an official game. Why? Cause a lay-up is safer. And if i miss a dunk, my coach forces me to sit on the bench for 3 games! You know what i mean? That's the difference! People in the States starts to play in a gym, in a team and with a real coach when they 17-18. When i'm 17-18, i can teach basketball.
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Player (Team) Country
Tariq Abdul-Wahad, Dallas France
Robert Archibald, Toronto Scotland
Carlos Arroyo, Utah Puerto Rico
Leandro Barbosa, Phoenix Brazil
Raja Bell, Utah U.S. Virgin Islands
Ruben Boumtje Boumtje, Cleveland Cameroon
Primoz Brezec, Indiana Slovenia
Zarko Cabarkapa, Phoenix Serbia and Montenegro
Samuel Dalembert, Philadelphia Haiti
Boris Diaw, Atlanta France
DeSagana Diop, Cleveland Senegal
Vlade Divac, Sacramento Serbia and Montenegro
Predrag Drobnjak, L.A. Clippers Serbia and Montenegro
Tim Duncan, San Antonio U.S. Virgin Islands
Ndudi Ebi (1), Minnesota England
Obinna Ekezie, Atlanta Nigeria
Francisco Elson, Denver Netherlands
Rick Fox (2), L.A. Lakers Canada
Adonal Foyle, Golden State St. Vincent and the Grenadines
Dan Gadzuric, Milwaukee Netherlands
Alex Garcia, San Antonio Brazil
Pau Gasol, Memphis Spain
Emanuel Ginobili, San Antonio Argentina
Gordan Giricek, Utah Croatia
Zydrunas Ilgauskas, Cleveland Lithuania
Marko Jaric, L.A. Clippers Serbia and Montenegro
Andrei Kirilenko, Utah Russia
Toni Kukoc, Milwaukee Croatia
Maciej Lampe, Phoenix Poland
Raul Lopez, Utah Spain
Todd MacCulloch, Philadelphia Canada
Jamaal Magloire, New Orleans Canada
Sean Marks, San Antonio New Zealand
Stanislav Medvedenko, L.A. Lakers Ukraine
Darko Milicic, Detroit Serbia and Montenegro
Jerome Moiso, Toronto France
Dikembe Mutombo, New York Congo
Bostjan Nachbar, Houston Slovenia
Eduardo Najera, Dallas Mexico
Steve Nash, Dallas Canada
Mamadou N'diaye, Atlanta Senegal
Nenê, Denver Brazil
Rasho Nesterovic, San Antonio Slovenia
Dirk Nowitzki, Dallas Germany
Mehmet Okur, Detroit Turkey
Michael Olowokandi (3), Minnesota Nigeria
Zaza Pachulia, Orlando Georgia
Milt Palacio, Toronto Belize
Tony Parker (4), San Antonio France
Aleksandar Pavlovic, Utah Serbia and Montenegro
Mickael Pietrus, Golden State France
Zoran Planinic (5), New Jersey Croatia
Vitaly Potapenko, Seattle Ukraine
Vladimir Radmanovic (6), Seattle Serbia and Montenegro
Zeljko Rebraca, Atlanta Serbia and Montenegro
Daniel Santiago, Milwaukee Puerto Rico
Darius Songaila, Sacramento Lithuania
Jon Stefansson, Dallas Iceland
Vladimir Stepania, Portland Georgia
Peja Stojakovic, Sacramento Serbia and Montenegro
Cezary Trybanski, New York Poland
Jake Tsakalidis, Memphis Greece
Nikoloz Tskitishvili, Denver Georgia
Hedo Turkoglu, San Antonio Turkey
Wang Zhizhi, Miami China
Jiri Welsch, Boston Czech Republic
Yao Ming, Houston China
Gotta update that list, man...
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^exactly.
sorry to say that, but most black americans play to look good and whites (especially Europeans) look to play good. you know? it's like they go for the hard dunk when the other ones rather go for the secure lay-up, stuff like this.
god you're racist to say that shit. you couldn't be farther from the truth
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A lot of it has to due where you grew up too. A white kid growing up in an urban area is goin try an play the ball a black kid in the park is playing. I think a lot of it has to do where you grow up 2.
Yeah, obviously. But in Europe people start playing bball in a gym, 3 times a week, with minibasket and shit. No playground, but REGULAR basketball. In the States, most of the people start playing bball in the street, close to their home, or at the school, where there's a rim on the wall, and they can shoot or play 1 on 1, or 3 on 3. 3 on 3 KILLS basketball. When you raise up playing 3 on 3, you cant play 5 on 5 no more!! Cause playing 3 on 3 means you have to outscore your opponent, going always 1 on 1 or playing only with your body. You aint double-teamed. Opponents cant play zone defence. They cant make pick n rolls or schemes. 3 on 3 it's just who has more skills wins. That's totally a different concept. In Europe you raise up in a gym with a team. And you only play 5 on 5. It's a team! Team concept.
Then americans move to the playgrounds. Then they go to school (college-Uni) and they start to play bball in a team for the first time there.
I started playing in a real team, in a gym and everything when i was 5. FIVE. I grew up in a gym, playing schemes till i was 9 years old, using pick n roll's till i was 12, playing zone pressure since i was 14. When i was 18, i was totally mature as a player, knowing the game, all the schemes, how to defend on zone, how to make lay-ups with the left hand and not being blocked, how to use a pick n roll, how to shoot from 3pts, how to make a FT (Italy had the best percentace from FT and 3pts in the Olympic tournment), etc.
Feel me? At 18 i was a PERFECT player.
Only difference between me as a 18 years old player and a 18 years old black guy is that the black guy plays OVER the rim and i play UNDER the rim. I dunk, but i've never dunked in an official game. Why? Cause a lay-up is safer. And if i miss a dunk, my coach forces me to sit on the bench for 3 games! You know what i mean? That's the difference! People in the States starts to play in a gym, in a team and with a real coach when they 17-18. When i'm 17-18, i can teach basketball.
AH, WHAT??
ive been playing street ball since i was 9, i really got a late start playing basketball, i started playing for the city league in a gym and during the summer i went to the park to see if i could play with the other 9-10 year olds, and you know what? they were all 10x better than me, even to this day, i still play with the same people @ the park, and they all have better ball control and better shot than i do, i think because playin organized ball gives you a lot of restrictions and you cant really do as much like when your playin street ball, .........and to the transition from street ball to organized ball thing you said in your post....WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT???? 3 of the guys i played with are being asked by the Ontario Warriors to try out for them, they even waived their Registration fee (which i think is $100)....(if you dont know the ontario warriors, check out www.ontariowarriors.com , they play for the ABA) - - - - All in all i know im prob. just babblin, but the moral to my babblin is - Street Ballers are better than Ballers who just played organized ball all their life.....And it doesnt really matter with race either, not really...like trauma said, Practice Practice practice, cuz im better than most black people i play with
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Man first of all i was talking about the EUROPEAN situation. Other than that, i said street players are better INDIVIDUALLY (so i agree with you), but if you raise in a gym as a kid, in a team, and you know how to play in a team, and everybody got his role in the team, and they play hard zone, double-teams, match-ups, pick n rolls, triangles, fundamentals, 3pts, etc.., you learn fast how to play IN A TEAM. Which is the main reason, reading US journalists, why USA didnt win (they werent a team) and other teams won (they ARE a team and play LIKE a team). It's not because other countries knows each others from years and all this bullshit. It's because they know how to play in a team from years. The can change 30 teams, but they'll still fit in it. USA players never played organized basketball in the Olympics. It was only man defence and continuos 1 on 1 in offence. Too unorganized to win something against REAL teams. Even against Italy or Puerto Rico.
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One thing I think that hurts the NBA is the fact that players don't even go to college anymore. In high school, you're a start player that plays one on one, and you don't learn to use your team. Now if they go to college, they will have to learn to play on a team, and not just one year, but the should at least play 3. Shaq played 3 years college ball and became one of the best passing centers around. Kobe grew up playing European ball, so his team skillz were better at 18 than many NBA players. He just needs to check the ego. Iverson played a couple years college, and it took him forever to get the team game. Team basketball should be taught any place 5 on 5 basketball is played. I remember getting mad, 'cause the old ass Utah Jazz used to beat everyone using a pick and roll. The pick and roll is very simple, very elementry team basketball, but no one knew how to beat it. I will say this though about the NBA today. Defense is the best it's ever been. I have never seen players with the defensive skills as today. Every good all-star caliber player has great defense, except maybe Allen Iverson, but he can stick people too. If our team can get more practice as a team, we can win off of defense alone. Many of todays street players take as much pride with defense as offense because they don't want to be made fool in front of everybody. We can work off of some defense. It's just a matter of checking egos at the door and developing role players. I mean, the team did well, but even in street ball you have rebounders, you have passers, just they are not taught as technical sound as a gym taught player. Onething that I always noticed that helped out our local players was basketball camp. All our great high school players went to basketball camps put on by NBA players. Like Cedric Ceballos and Sean Rooks used to run camps in San Bernardino, now I don't think anyone does, but if Bryon Russell decided to do that for his hometown, and oneday Tyson Chandler, the girl Miller, she did drills for girl's basketball once, and that went over well. If we can get our old school players to get camps for the kids to learn real ball, and they'll go because it's an NBA player from around here, then I think that'll help out the street ball system. On many levels our game can be helped, it's not as bad as everyone would make it out to be.
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7even: shake em off, for the most part your tellin the truth, there are a few exceptions but most black people play the one man game, most white guys play the team game, ive been playin my whole life in different areas with different demographies and thats just how it is, its not insulting anyone, hes just stating the truth yall need to get off his nuts..
White boy: 7even sayin that dont make him rascist, its the truth, there are exceptions but, as i said, hes just statin the truth
Antonio: quit lickin your own jock dude, perfect player lmao.. u still postin here so obviously you aint doin a whole lot with your b-ball career.. fuck off
NIK: why you always so critical foo lol, white boy gave about 400% more names than anyone did
pZ
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What I said was of course not for EVERY black baller and EVERY white baller in the world, cmon, I dont have to add this. That's obvious. Of course I generalize saying what I said. Of course it also depends where you grow up and how you are raised, god damn it.
^But that doesnt make it untrue. I see it here where I come from, and I bet 10000 Bucks that it's big time more obvious/frequent in the US.
And that's one of the reasons why the US isnt the threat in international basketball it used to be, love it or hate it. They cant shoot from beyond the arc, cause - how is that cool? Fuck that, 3pt shooting makes you look like a white nerd like Bird. You rather make some fancy crossovers and go for that artistic lay-up like Iverson, too bad you miss the lay-up cause you put all the effort in the unnecessary dribbling... that looked soooo cooool though... or if youre tall, why not doin a dunk although youll get more likely blocked or even miss it.
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^ Nik, i just got it off NBA.com... so wen they update it, i will :)
and 7even... w/e think wat u want...
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A lot of it has to due where you grew up too. A white kid growing up in an urban area is goin try an play the ball a black kid in the park is playing. I think a lot of it has to do where you grow up 2.
Yeah, obviously. But in Europe people start playing bball in a gym, 3 times a week, with minibasket and shit. No playground, but REGULAR basketball. In the States, most of the people start playing bball in the street, close to their home, or at the school, where there's a rim on the wall, and they can shoot or play 1 on 1, or 3 on 3. 3 on 3 KILLS basketball. When you raise up playing 3 on 3, you cant play 5 on 5 no more!! Cause playing 3 on 3 means you have to outscore your opponent, going always 1 on 1 or playing only with your body. You aint double-teamed. Opponents cant play zone defence. They cant make pick n rolls or schemes. 3 on 3 it's just who has more skills wins. That's totally a different concept. In Europe you raise up in a gym with a team. And you only play 5 on 5. It's a team! Team concept.
Then americans move to the playgrounds. Then they go to school (college-Uni) and they start to play bball in a team for the first time there.
I started playing in a real team, in a gym and everything when i was 5. FIVE. I grew up in a gym, playing schemes till i was 9 years old, using pick n roll's till i was 12, playing zone pressure since i was 14. When i was 18, i was totally mature as a player, knowing the game, all the schemes, how to defend on zone, how to make lay-ups with the left hand and not being blocked, how to use a pick n roll, how to shoot from 3pts, how to make a FT (Italy had the best percentace from FT and 3pts in the Olympic tournment), etc.
Feel me? At 18 i was a PERFECT player.
Only difference between me as a 18 years old player and a 18 years old black guy is that the black guy plays OVER the rim and i play UNDER the rim. I dunk, but i've never dunked in an official game. Why? Cause a lay-up is safer. And if i miss a dunk, my coach forces me to sit on the bench for 3 games! You know what i mean? That's the difference! People in the States starts to play in a gym, in a team and with a real coach when they 17-18. When i'm 17-18, i can teach basketball.
You know how fuckin stupid you sound Antonio? You think all the kids in America don't play highschool/middle--school/elementry ball before going to college?
"People in the States starts to play in a gym, in a team and with a real coach when they 17-18. When i'm 17-18, i can teach basketball."
Four words to describe what you just said, "Are you fuckin stupid?"
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I agree w/ Ants, there's a difference between streetball & teamball, but that doesn't necessarily mean a player is better than another bcoz they play either street or teamball. Some ppl are more gifted than others. It's not impossible to make the transition between streetball & teamball, it's how most ppl started...............using a rubbish bin............plastic boxes nailed to the wall, attaching a board to a netball hoop.........or marking a box on the wall.....no hoop whatsoever. Dun matter how good u are, w/ practice, any1 can move from streetball to teamball.
I dun think the US team weren't as bad as ppl said they were. Sure they were sloppy & lacked team play in parts of games, but they didn't have many games together, w/ all their faults, they still managed to surprise alot of yahs & beat Spain & Lithuania in the process.
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Antonio: quit lickin your own jock dude, perfect player lmao.. u still postin here so obviously you aint doin a whole lot with your b-ball career.. fuck off
Man to comment on my post you have to read it and to be intelligent enought to understand it. With "a perfect player" i didnt mean an ALL-Olympic & ALL-NBA player, but a complete player, knowing a little bit of everything. Look at the Italian national team: every player knows the game. Then it doesnt necessary mean they're ALL-Olympics or ALL-NBA or NBA players.
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What I said was of course not for EVERY black baller and EVERY white baller in the world, cmon, I dont have to add this. That's obvious. Of course I generalize saying what I said. Of course it also depends where you grow up and how you are raised, god damn it.
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P.S. Me and 7 agrees with the view of basketball in Europe, so there's no need to diss. You all are from USA, so just add your point of view and maybe we all can understand it more. But dont act like you know it more than us, cause an European team arrived before USA in the last World Championships 2002 and in this Olympic Tournment 2004.
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NIK: why you always so critical foo lol, white boy gave about 400% more names than anyone did
I was just letting people know that his list was inaccurate...Some of those players don't play on the teams they are listed under anymore...That's an old list...PeACe