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Lifestyle => Sports & Entertainment => Topic started by: M Dogg™ on August 30, 2004, 06:10:05 PM
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I was thinking... if you can take two boxers out of any era and put them against each other, who would they be, and how would they stack up. It might be harder if you use people in certain weight class, because you could say modern fighters are heavier, because in 1944, 160 lbs was a middleweight, and in 2002 160 lbs is still a middleweight, and 160 is still the same as it is now. For heavyweights though, Sonny Listen's 215 lbs was huge then, but Lennox Lewis 245 lbs is just giant. So what would it be. Let's get rid of the obvious, Mike Tyson vs. Muhammad Ali. Though you can say who would win, but you have to be fair to both, like which Tyson you pick, pre-jail or post-jail, and same with Ali, pre-banned, post-banned. The ideal match for me would be old Ali vs. old Tyson, because when both were older, both had their roles set as the most loved and hated fighters of all time. But whatother fights would you like to see. The battle of lightweights between Roberto Duran and Julio Ceaser Chavez, middleweight classic between Hopkins and Sugar Ray Robinson. What about two big hearted heavyweights go at it like Evander Holyfield and Ken Norton. I'd like to see what people think would be a great fight and who they think would come out on top and how.
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Forman vs Lewis
De La Hoya vs Trinidad (again)
De La Hoya vs Ali just to see if de la hoya can hang...
Tyson vs Moesly
cant think right now tho...
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ali vs cus d'mato Mike Tyson not Don King Tyson.
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Definitely Hopkins vs. Ray Robinson. Both of em were great. I can't wait for the upcoming De La Hoya vs. Hopkins fight.
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george foreman vs lennox lewis- big george should got at him be4 he retired, lennox woulda got his ass handed 2 him
pernell "sweet pea " whitaker vs roy jones jr - if sweet pea wasnt on that shit as strong( cocaine) as he is and was, this will be 1 of the funniest fights ever.. 2 showboatin ass niggas goin at it...pernell in a split decision.. both of these dudes bout the same power wise..
pernell whitaker vs oscar de la hoya -he embarrassed oscar... he dropped his guards on oscar ass and start doin the fonky chicken or some shit..kuz he was wobblin his legs 4 a good min and jus looked at him and weaved everything thrown..he made him look silly...both of these fools faces was hulled..kuz they was landin their punches..shoulda been a draw.. but oscar won both fights due to sweet pea's show boatin...but glove to glove...oscar cant see him..if they had some real judges
george foreman ( when he was slimmer) vs mike tyson- they will be throwin some haymakers.. both of these fools would be throwin 1 hitter quitters
marvin haglar vs roy jones jr- pound 4 pound my ass.. roy would be sleepin with his chickens after 3 rounds with marvin
zab judah vs tommy hearns- talkin bout some speed..i jus wanna see zab get his ass stunned fall out.. and hearns get his ass stunned and fall out... kuz when these 2 get stunned its some funny shit
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roy jones aint shit that why i dont mention him...
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roy jones aint shit that why i dont mention him...
His last fight proved that. Plus, he never fought a major fighter in his career. His whole career was based on hype.
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roy jones aint shit that why i dont mention him...
His last fight proved that. Plus, he never fought a major fighter in his career. His whole career was based on hype.
so true...
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Tyson 1988 vs 2004 Tyson.
I'd just like to see him kick his own ass.
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roy jones aint shit that why i dont mention him...
His last fight proved that. Plus, he never fought a major fighter in his career. His whole career was based on hype.
Well he did have that Hopkins win, which people always point to. But that was like back in 1993 or around that time. I think personally, Roy shoulda been at heavyweight along time ago, because there is no one at Light Heavyweight worth fighting, not in a very long time. If Roy really wanted to prove he was great, he would have been a heavyweight. I personally would ahve loved to see Roy fight and beat heavyweights like Chris Byrd and Evander Holyfield a few years ago. Though fight someone like Lewis, I wouldn't have recommended that. But I think he could have had a great heavyweight career, as long as he stayed fighting smaller heavyweights, and he would have added a big name to the most glamous division.
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roy jones aint shit that why i dont mention him...
His last fight proved that. Plus, he never fought a major fighter in his career. His whole career was based on hype.
Well he did have that Hopkins win, which people always point to. But that was like back in 1993 or around that time. I think personally, Roy shoulda been at heavyweight along time ago, because there is no one at Light Heavyweight worth fighting, not in a very long time. If Roy really wanted to prove he was great, he would have been a heavyweight. I personally would ahve loved to see Roy fight and beat heavyweights like Chris Byrd and Evander Holyfield a few years ago. Though fight someone like Lewis, I wouldn't have recommended that. But I think he could have had a great heavyweight career, as long as he stayed fighting smaller heavyweights, and he would have added a big name to the most glamous division.
Do you really think Roy Jones could beat Avander? lmao dude... Tyson would wreck on Jones and lets not forget Avander is the one who put Tyson in his place...
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And i know you said he wouldnt beat him but he would have to, to make a name for himself
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by the time Roy would fight Holyfield, Holyfield would be too old. Like after Roy beat Ruiz, he wanted to fight Holyfield, and people got mad because he was going to beat on an old man. At onetime Holyfield was a warrior, but now, and by the time Roy moved up, Holyfield isn't even a shell of himself in the ring.
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Jones couldn't stand a chance as a heavyweight. I like how dude likes to compare himself to Holyfield and how he moved up the weight classes. Like you said, M Dogg, Evander's a warrior, Roy just doesn't have it.
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Well since this is a fantasty thread, and I thought it ould be cool to plan out a fight, the first fight of the evening is a Heavyweight fight, is schedual for 12 rounds of boxing.
In the red corner, fighting out of Pensicola Florida, weighing in at a lean 201 pounds, "RJ" Roy Jones Jr. of 2003
In the blue corner, fighting out of Atlanta GA, weighing in at 220 pounds, Evander "the Read Deal" Holyfield of 1998
1st round: Both fighters step to the middle of the ring, and feel each other out. It is obvious that Roy has a speed advantage, as he moves clear away from almost all offense Holyfield puts out. Holyfield is trying to match speed with the quicker Jones. Using a cut off the ring statigy, Holyfield is able to corner Roy and hit him with one solid left followed by a right. Roy gets out of the corner as soon as possible, continuing to dance until the bell. (judges score round for Roy 10-9)
2nd round: More of the same from the first, Roy is going around Holyfield, well Holyfield is trying to chase. The problem is that Holyfield is walking into many quick left jabs. Using his quick hand speed, Roy is starting to let off combinations, though Holyfield doesn't seemed fazed. Holyfield lands a solid jab right into Jones Jr.'s jaw, rocking the quicker man. It is now clear Jones is not able to take too many of Holyfield's punches. Back peddling, Roy throws his quick punches as Holyfield blocks them. Though Roy got in more punches, Holyfield was never in danger. Holyfield though didn't get Roy into much trouble. (so the round go to Roy 10-9)
3rd round: Roy is continuning to hit the fast combos to Holyfield. Holyfield begins to muscle in, and corner Roy, only to have Roy move away and hit more combos. The punches that Holyfield is throwing are being deflected by Roy, as Holyfield begins to fustrated at his smaller challenger. Roy lands his first power shot, as he had Holyfield's back to the ropes, and tries to get a second one in when Holyfield popped him back with a stiff jab. The bell rings as Roy is landing quick body shots trying to chop the bigger man down. (Roy 10-9)
4th round: The fight is turning more and more into Roy's favor, until alittle after 2 minutes into the fight, Holyfield hurts Roy, and scores a knock down. As Roy was loosing up and starting to feel a victory, Holyfield scored a big right hook, sending Roy down. Roy gets up really dazed, and Holyfield puts on the pressure. Roy resorts to holding Holyfield as time wears down. (Holyfield 10-8)
5th round: It is obvious that Roy is in trouble, as his corner men are trying to get Roy ready for the round. Both fighters come out, and Roy is starting to get desprate, with quick jabs and holds. Holyfield lands an "accidental" head butt into Roy's eye, cutting him. Holyfield then lands some stiff lefts that put Roy's back to the ropes, and as his about to attack, the ref stops the fight at 1:06 left in the 5th.
The winner by techincal knock out, Evander "the Real Deal" Holyfield.
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Well since this is a fantasty thread, and I thought it ould be cool to plan out a fight, the first fight of the evening is a Heavyweight fight, is schedual for 12 rounds of boxing.
In the red corner, fighting out of Pensicola Florida, weighing in at a lean 201 pounds, "RJ" Roy Jones Jr. of 2003
In the blue corner, fighting out of Atlanta GA, weighing in at 220 pounds, Evander "the Read Deal" Holyfield of 1998
1st round: Both fighters step to the middle of the ring, and feel each other out. It is obvious that Roy has a speed advantage, as he moves clear away from almost all offense Holyfield puts out. Holyfield is trying to match speed with the quicker Jones. Using a cut off the ring statigy, Holyfield is able to corner Roy and hit him with one solid left followed by a right. Roy gets out of the corner as soon as possible, continuing to dance until the bell. (judges score round for Roy 10-9)
2nd round: More of the same from the first, Roy is going around Holyfield, well Holyfield is trying to chase. The problem is that Holyfield is walking into many quick left jabs. Using his quick hand speed, Roy is starting to let off combinations, though Holyfield doesn't seemed fazed. Holyfield lands a solid jab right into Jones Jr.'s jaw, rocking the quicker man. It is now clear Jones is not able to take too many of Holyfield's punches. Back peddling, Roy throws his quick punches as Holyfield blocks them. Though Roy got in more punches, Holyfield was never in danger. Holyfield though didn't get Roy into much trouble. (so the round go to Roy 10-9)
3rd round: Roy is continuning to hit the fast combos to Holyfield. Holyfield begins to muscle in, and corner Roy, only to have Roy move away and hit more combos. The punches that Holyfield is throwing are being deflected by Roy, as Holyfield begins to fustrated at his smaller challenger. Roy lands his first power shot, as he had Holyfield's back to the ropes, and tries to get a second one in when Holyfield popped him back with a stiff jab. The bell rings as Roy is landing quick body shots trying to chop the bigger man down. (Roy 10-9)
4th round: The fight is turning more and more into Roy's favor, until alittle after 2 minutes into the fight, Holyfield hurts Roy, and scores a knock down. As Roy was loosing up and starting to feel a victory, Holyfield scored a big right hook, sending Roy down. Roy gets up really dazed, and Holyfield puts on the pressure. Roy resorts to holding Holyfield as time wears down. (Holyfield 10-8)
5th round: It is obvious that Roy is in trouble, as his corner men are trying to get Roy ready for the round. Both fighters come out, and Roy is starting to get desprate, with quick jabs and holds. Holyfield lands an "accidental" head butt into Roy's eye, cutting him. Holyfield then lands some stiff lefts that put Roy's back to the ropes, and as his about to attack, the ref stops the fight at 1:06 left in the 5th.
The winner by techincal knock out, Evander "the Real Deal" Holyfield.
sorry homie u shoulda jus ended it at the 2nd round...or hell the 1st holyfield hits waaaaaaaaaaaaaay harder than tarver or whatever dudes name who put him on his ass.... roy couldnt take a punch from evander not when he slip that mighty left hook..he will have that fool talkin 2 foghorn leghorn...
m-dogg and the dude with lowlow..bike..was on point holyfield was a warrior..
i got a tape of him and michael doaks jus tradin shots to the nutts..these niggas was tradin uppercutts to the balls..i put this on my life.. these 2 niggas, hittin hard..referee aint see shit...they was so quik...all u see is holyfield go down... holdin his shit... he gets up regroup... doaks is down..he hit doaks ass so hard.. muhfucka braids unbraided and braided themselves...we was on the floor rollin...then they was tradin elbow shots 2... doaks is the only nigga on earth i seen exchange cheap shots with holyfield without complainin...
roy wouldnt know what 2 do.. when evander starts cheatin..so he could jus lay it down..
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sorry homie u shoulda jus ended it at the 2nd round...or hell the 1st holyfield hits waaaaaaaaaaaaaay harder than tarver or whatever dudes name who put him on his ass.... roy couldnt take a punch from evander not when he slip that mighty left hook..he will have that fool talkin 2 foghorn leghorn...
m-dogg and the dude with lowlow..bike..was on point holyfield was a warrior..
i got a tape of him and michael doaks jus tradin shots to the nutts..these niggas was tradin uppercutts to the balls..i put this on my life.. these 2 niggas, hittin hard..referee aint see shit...they was so quik...all u see is holyfield go down... holdin his shit... he gets up regroup... doaks is down..he hit doaks ass so hard.. muhfucka braids unbraided and braided themselves...we was on the floor rollin...then they was tradin elbow shots 2... doaks is the only nigga on earth i seen exchange cheap shots with holyfield without complainin...
roy wouldnt know what 2 do.. when evander starts cheatin..so he could jus lay it down..
I tried to make it interesting, because one, Roy is actually a great boxer, and two, Evander is at his best when he is against the odds. but Evander is a straight warrior. he went through battles. Roy is a flashy fast hard hitting boxer, and he could get the early rounds, because Holyfield will just feel him out. But once Holyfield catches him, Roy is in trouble. It's all good, though. I was wondering if anyone else wanted to make up some fights and how they'd go. It's all good.
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Now now just cause Roy got beat dont make him a shit fighter.
He beat Toney 4 the title and Toney was no joke back then
And before that he beat Hopkins And I Mike Mcallum
So to say he aint beat No 1 is just disrespectful
And C'mon the guy should have a Gold Medal at home.
As 4 Fantasy Boxing
I just wish Marvin Hagler was around today because that middle weight division is a joke.