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Title: Miracle....you decide!
Post by: bez on September 04, 2004, 03:44:38 PM
I got up yesterday morning and my Mum handed me the local Church magazine that always gets posted through our door every month or so.  When she give it me I was like "What?", and my Mum said "Read that story."

The story:

MIRACLE IN EGYPT

A Muslim man in Egypt killed his wife and buried her with their infant baby and 8-year old daughter.  The girls were buried alive!

He reported to the police that an uncle killed the kids.  15 days later, another family member died.  When they went to bury him, they found the 2 girls under the sand - ALIVE!  The eldest girl was asked how she had survived.  "A man wearning shiny white clothes, with bleeding wounds in his hands, came every day to feed us.  He woke up my mom so she could nurse my sister."  She was interviewed on Egyptian national TV, by a veiled Muslim news anchor.

She said on public TV, "This was none other but Jesus, because nobody else does things like this!"

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I don't know about you but I found this story totally mind blowing.  I mean not only were the 2 girls underground in the blistering heat of Egypt, but they ain't even Christian.  For them to come out and basically say that "Jesus saved us" is totally contradicting their religion, so surly it can't be made up.  I really can't see how they survived underground for 15 days in the heat, without food or water without this story being true, but I don't know.  It got me thinking though.

Your thoughts?
Title: Re: Miracle....you decide!
Post by: Sikotic™ on September 04, 2004, 04:25:49 PM
Sounds like a miracle to me. Surviving that alone for 15 days is a miracle in itself, but they claim a "man" helped them points towards it even more.
Title: Re: Miracle....you decide!
Post by: 7even on September 04, 2004, 05:15:09 PM
Jesus saved us my ass.
The cool part of the story that those kids survived
The fuckin' sad part is that ppl, even children, cant expect normal humans to do such grateful stuff, so it must be Jesus or something... very sad.
Quote
"This was none other but Jesus, because nobody else does things like this!"
Very, very sad.
Title: Re: Miracle....you decide!
Post by: Shallow on September 04, 2004, 08:30:31 PM
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

The problem with you is you can't even accept the possibilty that Jesus can exist the way he claims. I have no problem accepting the possibilty he may have been just a story. You weren't there so just stay out of it.

(I in no way implied in my post that Jesus did indeed save them)
Title: Re: Miracle....you decide!
Post by: pappy on September 04, 2004, 08:50:01 PM
Jesus saved us my ass.
The cool part of the story that those kids survived
The fuckin' sad part is that ppl, even children, cant expect normal humans to do such grateful stuff, so it must be Jesus or something... very sad.
Quote
"This was none other but Jesus, because nobody else does things like this!"
Very, very sad.

your just as bad as those that cant accept it was a human being.  STFU already your a tool
Title: Re: Miracle....you decide!
Post by: Shallow on September 04, 2004, 09:07:12 PM
Jesus saved us my ass.
The cool part of the story that those kids survived
The fuckin' sad part is that ppl, even children, cant expect normal humans to do such grateful stuff, so it must be Jesus or something... very sad.
Quote
"This was none other but Jesus, because nobody else does things like this!"
Very, very sad.

your just as bad as those that cant accept it was a human being.  STFU already your a tool



Accept who was a human being?
Title: Re: Miracle....you decide!
Post by: pappy on September 04, 2004, 09:16:10 PM
Jesus saved us my ass.
The cool part of the story that those kids survived
The fuckin' sad part is that ppl, even children, cant expect normal humans to do such grateful stuff, so it must be Jesus or something... very sad.
Quote
"This was none other but Jesus, because nobody else does things like this!"
Very, very sad.

your just as bad as those that cant accept it was a human being.  STFU already your a tool


Accept who was a human being?

accept that the guy who helped these girls survive could of been a human an not jesus
Title: Re: Miracle....you decide!
Post by: Shallow on September 04, 2004, 09:25:31 PM
Oh, but what if it was Jesus? Sorry, I guess I would just love to really seee him come back. It probably was some good samaritan though.
Title: Re: Miracle....you decide!
Post by: pappy on September 04, 2004, 09:54:01 PM
Oh, but what if it was Jesus? Sorry, I guess I would just love to really seee him come back. It probably was some good samaritan though.

i dont deny the fact it could of been jesus.  se7en does lol.
Title: Re: Miracle....you decide!
Post by: Shallow on September 04, 2004, 09:59:53 PM
We can hope can't we? C'mon Jesus, come back already.
Title: Re: Miracle....you decide!
Post by: Trauma-san on September 04, 2004, 10:40:32 PM
Sounds like a Miracle to me.  I'm not so concieted (I can't even SPELL concieted) thatI'm gonna tell some little girl she DIDN'T see Jesus.  Maybe she did, we don't know for sure one way or the other.  I'll take her @ face value, and if that's what she said happened, then as far as I'm concerned that's what happened.  It's highly illogical; but there's no logical way to describe how a girl lives buried for 15 days. 
Title: Re: Miracle....you decide!
Post by: mauzip on September 05, 2004, 02:06:44 AM
"A man wearning shiny white clothes, with bleeding wounds in his hands, came every day to feed us. He woke up my mom so she could nurse my sister."

LOL sounds like a bullshit story to me.
Title: Re: Miracle....you decide!
Post by: bez on September 05, 2004, 06:08:06 AM
"A man wearning shiny white clothes, with bleeding wounds in his hands, came every day to feed us. He woke up my mom so she could nurse my sister."

LOL sounds like a bullshit story to me.

apparently the middle east is going nuts over this story.
Title: Re: Miracle....you decide!
Post by: ZILLA THA GOODFELLA on September 05, 2004, 11:55:36 AM
what i don't get is, if it was a human that was feeding them, why would he do it then bury em again n again for 15 days ??

and 15 days under the ground, hot or not, there's really not no way of recieving oxygen....even if someone fed em, how would they survive all night without breathing?

either it's a bullshit story or it's truely 1 of the biggest miracles of our time.
Title: Re: Miracle....you decide!
Post by: white Boy on September 05, 2004, 12:21:20 PM
^ exactly... story is bullshit just like jesus,
Title: Re: Miracle....you decide!
Post by: Shallow on September 05, 2004, 12:47:46 PM
^ exactly... story is bullshit just like jesus,

how do you know it's bullshit? Unless you were there, you shouldn't make factual claims.
Title: Re: Miracle....you decide!
Post by: Sikotic™ on September 05, 2004, 04:07:00 PM
^ exactly... story is bullshit just like jesus,

how do you know it's bullshit? Unless you were there, you shouldn't make factual claims.

Exactly
Title: Re: Miracle....you decide!
Post by: white Boy on September 05, 2004, 04:07:57 PM
what i don't get is, if it was a human that was feeding them, why would he do it then bury em again n again for 15 days ??

and 15 days under the ground, hot or not, there's really not no way of recieving oxygen....even if someone fed em, how would they survive all night without breathing?

either it's a bullshit story or it's truely 1 of the biggest miracles of our time.
Title: Re: Miracle....you decide!
Post by: Ras Kass' Toothpick on September 05, 2004, 05:10:12 PM
LMAO
If you don't think this is bullshit, then I feel sorry for you.
Title: Re: Miracle....you decide!
Post by: white Boy on September 05, 2004, 06:52:51 PM
^thank you
Title: Re: Miracle....you decide!
Post by: Shallow on September 05, 2004, 07:59:11 PM
LMAO
If you don't think this is bullshit, then I feel sorry for you.




Do I believe it to the point where I'm going around telling everyone that Jesus is coming? No, but I wouldn't claim it is bullshit, because I wasn't there. I don't believe every miracle I hear about, but I am open to the idea that miracles are possible. You and Whiteboy apperently aren't

If Jesus was just some guy who told a bunch of stories, then why all the fuss? There  has to be something more to him. He didn't have any historical impact while living, he didn't free any slaves or cause a massive revolution but for some reason he has had this power over people that inspired them to keep believeing. Later on the whole thing went to shit because of the Church running the state, but in it's early stages Christianity itself was extraordinary.  Ghandi was much like him in a sense but Ghandi doesn't have millions upon millions following him after him as we speak.I believe the difference between Ghandi and Jesus is that Jesus showed the people out of this world powers and kept them believing. I'm just saying we can't say it can't happen.
Title: Re: Miracle....you decide!
Post by: Ras Kass' Toothpick on September 05, 2004, 08:07:38 PM
The way I look at it is, if I was in a hole and sand/dirt was thrown on me and covered me I wouldn't be able to get oxygen (which I need to breathe and live) so I would die.  So I don't see how getting food and water would even help because I would die of receiving no oxygen WELL before needing water or food.

This just doesn't make any sense, so I think it's total bullshit.
Title: Re: Miracle....you decide!
Post by: Shallow on September 05, 2004, 08:14:22 PM
The way I look at it is, if I was in a hole and sand/dirt was thrown on me and covered me I wouldn't be able to get oxygen (which I need to breathe and live) so I would die.  So I don't see he getting food and water would even help because I would die of receiving no oxygen WELL before needing water or food.

This just doesn't make any sense, so I think it's total bullshit.


So you THINK it's total bullshit. Thank you for not saying it has to be bullshit. This is all people have to say for me to not interfere. The second someone says it can't be this or it definately is that, then they are commiting a falacy, because they can never know for sure.


Hypothetically speaking if it really were Jesus then he could have kept them alive with his powers.
Title: Re: Miracle....you decide!
Post by: ARYC on September 06, 2004, 10:42:33 AM
"apparently the middle east is going nuts over this story."

i live in the middle east and this is the first time i hear about this .
Personally I believe that there is a God but I don't beleive everything that I hear , so when it comes to this story , I'll have to read more into it
Title: Re: Miracle....you decide!
Post by: bez on September 10, 2004, 08:56:54 AM
I copied the story word for word out of the Church magazine.  I don't know what happened but I still think its very strange.