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Title: Anybody else think Wyclef's "The Carnival" was a great album?
Post by: infinite59 on September 07, 2004, 07:52:53 PM
Artists don't make great records like this anymore.......

Today, there is the same played out formula being used on every record.  I think B.I.G. kind of started the trend and now every rapper is doing it these days. (with nowhere near the style and success that B.I.G. had)  You make a couple tracks for the club, a couple for the honey's, a couple about money, and then a couple of cuts about how hard and gangsta you are, and then that's a wrap!

Well back in 1998 when "The Carnival" was out times were different.  Artists put together ALBUMS not SINGLES!  The albums had themes and concepts, that were complex and thought-provoking.  Wyclef's "The Carnival" is everything an album should be.  He had songs that touched you emotionally, made you want to laugh, cry, and shout. 

You can tell a great deal of thought went into the making of this album.  It seems like Wyclef was trying to create a masterpiece.  The album was widely creative and diverse, from hip hop, Latin American, reggae, haitian, calypso, rock, and everything in between. I can't say if there is any large Hip Hop star that has the cultural insightfulness and diversity that Wyclef has, partly because Wyclef had a unique upbringing, being from Haiti and experiencing the poverty and turmoil that country is still suffering from today.  As displayed on the track "Gunpowder"[/i] a gripping tale of war story expressing how Haitian's cope with war.  He offers a unique perspective in the world of hip-hop. 

The guest artists added their own perspectives to the collection, and he primarily worked with artists on the album that he was close with, so the chemistry was there.  The lyrics were fresh and though-provoking.  He also experimented a little on the album though, like with the old school R&B group (Aaron Neville) on the track "Mona Lisa" and the results were magnificent.

Wyclef hasn't done much since, after completing the classic Fugee's record and then breaking out with this solo LP, he may have exhausted most of his creative energy's.  Still this album, is a great record, and it's something you can put in a time capsule and listen to ten years from now and it will still be dope.

Anyone agree? 
Title: Re: Anybody else think Wyclef John's "The Carnival" was a great album?
Post by: DAYUM on September 07, 2004, 08:30:47 PM
its good
Title: Re: Anybody else think Wyclef's "The Carnival" was a great album?
Post by: Trauma-san on September 07, 2004, 09:12:21 PM
It's a good album.  I particularly like Guantanamera. 
Title: Re: Anybody else think Wyclef's "The Carnival" was a great album?
Post by: Tical on September 07, 2004, 10:11:03 PM
It's a good album.  I particuarly like Guantanamera. 
Title: Re: Anybody else think Wyclef's "The Carnival" was a great album?
Post by: Trauma-san on September 07, 2004, 10:24:35 PM
Upon reading your response, I noticed I misspelled "Particularly".  You might want to fix that, sorry for leading you so far astray!
Title: Re: Anybody else think Wyclef's "The Carnival" was a great album?
Post by: Don Jacob on September 07, 2004, 11:14:41 PM
it's aright, it's not amazing or great

wyclef's problem is that he tries to emulate instead of create, and mixed with that he is very unfocused with what he's trying to emulate....you can tell he's trying to emulate bob dylan on some songs but for some reason he tries to bust out with some dane hall shit .....kinda like mixing tomatoe juice and ice cream
Title: Re: Anybody else think Wyclef's "The Carnival" was a great album?
Post by: Tical on September 07, 2004, 11:59:39 PM
.....kinda like mixing tomatoe juice and ice cream

u mexicans mix tomato juice with almost everything. also, salt + lime
Title: Re: Anybody else think Wyclef's "The Carnival" was a great album?
Post by: .:Hercy Buggz:. on September 08, 2004, 07:30:24 AM
That album is a fucking classic  :::::::::HAITIAN PRIDE:::::::::::
Title: Re: Anybody else think Wyclef's "The Carnival" was a great album?
Post by: Throwback on September 08, 2004, 07:49:13 AM
its pretty dope
Title: Re: Anybody else think Wyclef's "The Carnival" was a great album?
Post by: KURUPTION-81 on September 08, 2004, 11:06:29 AM
one of my favourite albums as it was one of the first hip hop albums i bought. it basically got me hooked on hip hop.
Title: Re: Anybody else think Wyclef's "The Carnival" was a great album?
Post by: On The Edge of Insanity on September 08, 2004, 11:15:53 AM
Yeah, extremely dope album, I did a review of it a while back:

http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=35314.0
Title: Re: Anybody else think Wyclef's "The Carnival" was a great album?
Post by: Smooth on September 08, 2004, 06:04:10 PM
Yeah that was a tight album... one of the first hip hop albums I was into back in the day... there's so many dope songs on there...
Title: Re: Anybody else think Wyclef's "The Carnival" was a great album?
Post by: Sikotic™ on September 09, 2004, 02:55:23 PM
I always wanted to check this recor dout but never got to it.
Title: Re: Anybody else think Wyclef's "The Carnival" was a great album?
Post by: DAYUM on September 09, 2004, 02:57:37 PM
I always wanted to check this recor dout but never got to it.

get at me on AIM and i can send it to u
Title: Re: Anybody else think Wyclef's "The Carnival" was a great album?
Post by: Trauma-san on September 09, 2004, 07:05:42 PM
Oh, and just thought I'd mention incase people didn't know... Guantanamera is a cover of an ancient song.  Of course the rap is new, but the hook is ollllld, we're talking 50's, maybe earlier as a folk song.   
Title: Re: Anybody else think Wyclef's "The Carnival" was a great album?
Post by: On The Edge of Insanity on September 10, 2004, 10:46:02 AM
Oh, and just thought I'd mention incase people didn't know... Guantanamera is a cover of an ancient song.  Of course the rap is new, but the hook is ollllld, we're talking 50's, maybe earlier as a folk song.   

Yeah the original is pretty cool, its fully in Spanish, think the version I heard was probably a 50/60s version though, sounds like the sort of song that would have been around before that.
Title: Re: Anybody else think Wyclef's "The Carnival" was a great album?
Post by: Leggy Hendrix on September 10, 2004, 11:06:15 AM
I always wanted to check this record out but never got to it.
Title: Re: Anybody else think Wyclef's "The Carnival" was a great album?
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on September 10, 2004, 05:05:13 PM
Oh, and just thought I'd mention incase people didn't know... Guantanamera is a cover of an ancient song.  Of course the rap is new, but the hook is ollllld, we're talking 50's, maybe earlier as a folk song.   


I think anyone who knows anything knows that...LOL