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Title: Tons More Nintendo DS Info and Screenshots released today
Post by: Trauma-san on October 07, 2004, 09:29:26 PM
This shit is INNOVATIVE. PSP has been ~FUCKED~

So, Nintendo had some big huge Gaming Summit in the land of the rising sun today, and were showing off their DS in a major way, letting people play it, and showing all the games that were going to be available at launch, and what's in the works. 

The first and biggest is "Mario 64 DS" which is a re-work of the Mario 64 Game that was out on the Nintendo 64.  You start the game as Yoshi, and eventually 'unlock' Mario, Wario, and Luigi who all have special moves and etcetera etcetera.  There's also a 4 player 'battle' mode, and 36 mini-games a-la "mario party' which are specific for each character.

The most interesting news to me is, the Nintendo DS ships with a little thimble attached to the carrying strap; if you put the thimble around your thumb, you can choose to use the DS's touchscreen as an analog controller, controlling the direction in the game with the thimble like you would a normal analog stick (which Nintendo pioneered, ironically, on "mario 64").

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Also announced are strange games like "Sprung", a dating game where you get to meet and fuc... well, I don't know about the details but it's some kind of nerd-boy fantasy game where you meet and date hot chicks.

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INCREDIBLY, Nintendo president Satoru Iwata announced today that the DS's wireless capabilities will be used to download and execute programs wirelessly... so for example, if you have a copy of "Mario 64 DS", 3 other people with DS's, but no cartridge, can play a 4 player game with you.  Their DS's will download the game program wirelessly from your DS, and then all 4 DS systems will have the program and be able to play together.

Iwata also said that in the future, Nintendo would like to make time-enabled game demos available at stores; so you could go to Wal-Mart, download demos of games onto your DS, then take them home and play them!  That's fucking intelligent.

Also, Iwata claims that Nintendo wants to get into the Animated film business.  He hinted that during the next pokemon' movie, they may try setting up special 'transmitters' or whatever @ movie theatres; and that if you brought your DS to the theatre, with your Pokemon' GBA carts, while the movie was playing, Nintendo would download Pokemon captured on the screen during the movie, to your DS at that scene.  LOL Come on man, you know that's cool as shit.

If Nintendo somehow manages to let people download free game samples @ retail outlets, it is OVER.  One of the major problems with 'new' games that aren't sequels or something is that people don't know what the fuck they are, and they're reluctant to spend money on them... if you could download a 1 level playable version of "Viewtiful Joe" to your DS, and take it home and play it whenever, it's such an awesome game (but unknown) that you'd be back at the store the next day to buy a full copy.  Brilliant idea.

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Another new game previewed was "Yoshi's Touch And Go", it's a strange game that mimicks Yoshi's Island, where you have baby mario at the beginning of the demo shown of the game, falling through the sky with a parachute.  You have to create clouds on the bottom screen with the stylus to safely guide Mario past the bad guys onto Yoshi's back, at which point Yoshi starts running, and you have to use the stylus (the game uses nothing but the stylus) to make Yoshi Jump, float, spit, eat, whatever to safely get Mario to the end of the level.  Gamespot says this game was their favorite shown.

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All DS systems come with a free demo of Metroid Prime Hunters (since Nintendo lowered the price of the media, it's easier to give away free demos, free games, etc.)

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Spider Man 2: Notice how in one screen, you can use the bottom screen to define which attack you want to use. 

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Nintendo is also working on an adventure game simply titled "another" (it's a codename, it maybe a sequel to one of their popular franchises)... the game features voice activated game play; Yes, the DS has a built in microphone... so you might just say "Left" and the character turns left, or "open the door" and the character walks over and opens the door.  All speculation is that it will be an adventure/puzzle solving game in the style of "Myst" or "Alone in the Dark" etc.  but with voice controls. 

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A different new game, called "Jam With the Band" will feature up to 8 players playing with a single gamecart, or an UNLIMITED amount of players playing if they have seperate game carts... it's a game where your DS picks an instrument that it wishes to be (say, a drum, or a guitar, saxaphone, etc.) and then you just make music with it.  You can either hum into the microphone to create your own melodies, or tap it out on the touchscreen with the stylus. 

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Other games shown or announced @ the summit....

Advance Wars DS (DS)
Animal Crossing DS (DS)
Asphalt Urban GT (DS)
Bomberman (DS)
Cool 104 Joker & Setline (DS)
Egg Monster Hero (DS)
Feel the Magic: XY/XX (DS)
Final Fantasy III (DS)
Frogger 2005 (DS)
Hokuto no Ken (DS)
Kenshuui Tendo Dokuta (DS)
Madden NFL 2005 (DS)
Mahjong Taikai (DS)
Mahjongg Tournament (DS)
Mario Kart DS (DS)
Meteos (DS)
Mr. Driller Drill Spirits (DS)
Mystical Ninja (DS)
One-Line Puzzle (working title) (DS)
Pac-Pix (DS)
PictoChat (DS)
Ping Pals (DS)
Pokemon Dash (DS)
Puppy Times (working title) (DS)
Puyo Pop Fever (DS)
Rayman DS (DS)
Ridge Racer DS (DS)
Super Mario Bros. DS (working title) (DS)
Tennis no Ouji-sama 2005: Crystal Drive (DS)
The Urbz: Sims in the City (DS)
Tiger Woods PGA Tour 2005 (DS)
Viewtiful Joe (DS)
WarioWare, Inc. DS (DS)
Zoo Keeper (DS)


And that's not counting the 49 titles they announced for Japan today. 
Title: Re: Tons More Nintendo DS Info and Screenshots released today
Post by: Sikotic™ on October 07, 2004, 09:30:43 PM
Damn, very impressive. All they need is a good variation of games and it looks like they do.
Title: Re: Tons More Nintendo DS Info and Screenshots released today
Post by: I`m Wayne Brady bitch! on October 08, 2004, 06:02:26 AM
dope !!!! The design on DS looks smooth as fuck
Title: Re: Tons More Nintendo DS Info and Screenshots released today
Post by: [Stoned]Jesus H. Christ[Wheat] on October 08, 2004, 06:59:57 AM
that sounds cool, all they need is a game like halo and everything they promise and that shit for mp would be great
Title: Re: Tons More Nintendo DS Info and Screenshots released today
Post by: white Boy on October 08, 2004, 07:18:39 AM
i would get it just for that "sprung game"  :D
Title: Re: Tons More Nintendo DS Info and Screenshots released today
Post by: T-Dogg on October 08, 2004, 08:53:05 AM
The Japanese been playing Bishoujo games (dating games) for a hella long time, with hella explicit content in them as well. We'll see how that game will do, but I have my doubts, since the Bishoujo genre hasn't landed itself outside Japan in all these years.

The machine itself looks good though. Dunno about them two screens, might end up being a gimmick properly utilized only by a few games, but we'll see.

I ain't spending money on that shit though, my PC is enough for me.
Title: Re: Tons More Nintendo DS Info and Screenshots released today
Post by: Shallow on October 08, 2004, 09:15:52 AM
Hey Trauma, you never answered my request on the bet. I'll take it. There is no way Sony is going to lose out to this. You just let me know the wager.

Most of these games are basic gameboy games, and I don't think people will care when they just bought so many of the last Gameboys. The 64 quality games don't mean shit to me. Look how cheap the game cobe is and noboidy wants that. I'll take your bet.

I hate Sony, but Nintendo is finished, and pretty soon they'll pull a Sega and jump out of the hardware war.
Title: Re: Tons More Nintendo DS Info and Screenshots released today
Post by: [Stoned]Jesus H. Christ[Wheat] on October 08, 2004, 09:29:52 AM
They won't be losing the handheld market, they got that shit on lock   :o
Title: Re: Tons More Nintendo DS Info and Screenshots released today
Post by: Shallow on October 08, 2004, 10:13:59 AM
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

With the PSP coming, and the supposive X Boy on the way, Nintendo will be finished there too. You just can't compete with all the Sony and Microsoft money.

Have you seen the PSP? The games look as good as PS2 games (with a big enough screen to pull it of), and the discs they use can hold 1.8 gigs of audio (mp3) and  digital video. I haven't bought a video game system since the Dreamcast, but I'm thinking about buying this.



Trauma is just dreaming because he's a big Nintendo fan. In my eyes the DS beating out the PSP in sales would be like Brian Wilson's new album beating out Eminem's.
Title: Re: Tons More Nintendo DS Info and Screenshots released today
Post by: Thirteen on October 08, 2004, 12:31:02 PM
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

With the PSP coming, and the supposive X Boy on the way, Nintendo will be finished there too. You just can't compete with all the Sony and Microsoft money.

Have you seen the PSP? The games look as good as PS2 games (with a big enough screen to pull it of), and the discs they use can hold 1.8 gigs of audio (mp3) and  digital video. I haven't bought a video game system since the Dreamcast, but I'm thinking about buying this.



Trauma is just dreaming because he's a big Nintendo fan. In my eyes the DS beating out the PSP in sales would be like Brian Wilson's new album beating out Eminem's.

too bad Sony had to go back to the drawing board with the PSP...sure nice graphics and a large screen are good, but when you can only play for 4 hours before it eats through a battery...that's just garbage

along with nintendo being cheaper, coming out sooner and launching with about 600 games availible....

sony has alot of catching up to do
Title: Re: Tons More Nintendo DS Info and Screenshots released today
Post by: Shallow on October 08, 2004, 01:29:23 PM
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

We'll see. I can't imagine Sony releasing it with battery problems. It supposivley comes with a rechargeable battery. (4 hours is good compared to the Game Gear. That was done is 20 minutes.)

As for the Gameboy games. Yeah, it has all the old ones, but are the new ones going to be good enough to get people to forget about the Gameboy that was just released. Systems coming out too soon is never a good thing. Nintendo just finished pushing the last Gameboy, and now they're releasing this one. You'd figure they'd learn from Sega's mistakes.

They'd stand a better chance just not releasing anything and having the SP go against the PSP, because if they place their focus on "next generation" games, they will lose.
Title: Re: Tons More Nintendo DS Info and Screenshots released today
Post by: Trauma-san on October 08, 2004, 03:45:11 PM
You truly are a dumbass.  You've got to be the most aptly named pupil on the board.  Nothing you say even has any factual info behind it.  "The New Gameboy" which one are you talking about?  The SP, which is just a redesigned version of the Advance that came out in what, 2000? 2001?  It's time to move on.  They're also continuing to make games for the Advance, but you wouldn't know that because you're too busy with Sony's year-late dick in your mouth. 

I didn't bet you Sony would flop.  I said the DS would not 'bomb' as you so ignorantly put it.  Watch; this thing will go over BIG.  Every major game company is behind it.  Nintendo themselves are spending more money than on any other system to promote this thing; they've lowered the cost of third party cartridges to ensure companies can make money on the games, Nintendo is developing as we speak, 30 fucking first-party titles.  30!  Besides Nintendo, there are over 100 other companies developing games for the system. 

If you can't see that it's going to be a huge success, take the dick out of your mouth and read over the reactions people have posted on this thread. 
Title: Re: Tons More Nintendo DS Info and Screenshots released today
Post by: Trauma-san on October 08, 2004, 03:48:59 PM
They'd stand a better chance just not releasing anything and having the SP go against the PSP, because if they place their focus on "next generation" games, they will lose.

That's why you don't have a job working for Nintendo, Sony, or Microsoft.  You don't know what the fuck you're talking about.  Maybe Bruce Springsteen has an opening for groupi.. er, roadies.


Are you so ignorant that you can't see the obvious differences between the SP, and the DS? Do you not see the obvious differences between the DS, and the PSP? Do you not see that this is a partial realization of Nintendo's "better quality over better graphics" philosophy that they've touted for years, but have never been able to successfully implement? 

The system is DIFFERENT.  The PSP is a Playstation.  A Pretty Playstation, but a Playstation. 

The DS is far from a gameboy, it has totally unique, innovative components that will totally change the way games are played... for the first time on a major level, in about 15 years.  For 15 years, we've been going from Nintendo, to Super Nintendo, to Playstation, to X-Box, etc.  This is a company finally getting the balls to release a system that takes the gaming industry in a new direction. 
Title: Re: Tons More Nintendo DS Info and Screenshots released today
Post by: Trauma-san on October 08, 2004, 03:50:37 PM
I hate Sony, but Nintendo is finished, and pretty soon they'll pull a Sega and jump out of the hardware war.

You have got to be fucking kidding me.  The Gameboy SP was the best selling system of all last year, but yet the company that manufactures it is going out of business.  Gotcha.  Remind me not to take stock quotes from you.

Nintendo's president has said, over, and over, and over, for years

"The Day We Pull Out Of The Hardware War is the Day We Go Out Of Business"

Title: Re: Tons More Nintendo DS Info and Screenshots released today
Post by: eS El Duque on October 08, 2004, 03:59:09 PM
ADVANCE WARS...I LOVED THAT SHIT!
Title: Re: Tons More Nintendo DS Info and Screenshots released today
Post by: Shallow on October 08, 2004, 04:54:32 PM
They'd stand a better chance just not releasing anything and having the SP go against the PSP, because if they place their focus on "next generation" games, they will lose.

  Maybe Bruce Springsteen has an opening for groupi.. er, roadies.



I wish!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Tons More Nintendo DS Info and Screenshots released today
Post by: Shallow on October 08, 2004, 04:55:34 PM


The DS is far from a gameboy, it has totally unique, innovative components that will totally change the way games are played... for the first time on a major level, in about 15 years.  For 15 years, we've been going from Nintendo, to Super Nintendo, to Playstation, to X-Box, etc.  This is a company finally getting the balls to release a system that takes the gaming industry in a new direction. 

Two words; Virtual Boy.
Title: Re: Tons More Nintendo DS Info and Screenshots released today
Post by: Shallow on October 08, 2004, 04:59:02 PM


I didn't bet you Sony would flop.  I said the DS would not 'bomb' as you so ignorantly put it.  Watch; this thing will go over BIG.  Every major game company is behind it.  Nintendo themselves are spending more money than on any other system to promote this thing; they've lowered the cost of third party cartridges to ensure companies can make money on the games, Nintendo is developing as we speak, 30 fucking first-party titles.  30!  Besides Nintendo, there are over 100 other companies developing games for the system. 

If you can't see that it's going to be a huge success, take the dick out of your mouth and read over the reactions people have posted on this thread. 


So then let's bet which one will do better in the end. If they both bomb then nobody wins. C'mon big man, let's put some money on it.


Oh, and who fuckin cares what people say on one forum. If we went by the opinions of the people on this forum, then Eminem wouldn't even go Gold, and The Game will go Diamond. (no offense to anyone, I'm just saying)
Title: Re: Tons More Nintendo DS Info and Screenshots released today
Post by: Jome on October 08, 2004, 08:28:52 PM
too bad Sony had to go back to the drawing board with the PSP...sure nice graphics and a large screen are good, but when you can only play for 4 hours before it eats through a battery...that's just garbage

along with nintendo being cheaper, coming out sooner and launching with about 600 games availible....

sony has alot of catching up to do

Uhh, that's only if you watch movies.. and 4 hours is 2 movies.. Nintendo probably won't even have movies..
If you use it for gaming, the batteries last longer.

And the screen is way better.. if Sony pulls off PS2 looking titles (from what GT4 looks like..) + movies + mp3, then I don't see one single reason why they shouldn't do AT LEAST the numbers DS will do, people said exactly the same about PS1, that wouldn't do shit to N64.. lmao.
(For the record, I owned a N64, but never a PS1)

The movie part means A LOT.
Imagine the TV ads.. "MISSION IMPOSSIBLE 3, OUT ON DVD and PSP NOOOWWW!!"
Mainstream mini-TV hasn't been pulled off properly yet, I think PSP might be the gadget to do it, and revolutionize handheld mini-TV's..

Title: Re: Tons More Nintendo DS Info and Screenshots released today
Post by: Thirteen on October 08, 2004, 08:41:22 PM
too bad Sony had to go back to the drawing board with the PSP...sure nice graphics and a large screen are good, but when you can only play for 4 hours before it eats through a battery...that's just garbage

along with nintendo being cheaper, coming out sooner and launching with about 600 games availible....

sony has alot of catching up to do

UHH, that's only if you watch movies.. and 4 hours is 2 movies.. Nintendo probably won't even have movies..
If you use it for gaming, the batteries last longer.

And the screen is way better.. if Sony pulls off PS2 looking titles + movies + mp3, then I don't see one single reason why they shouldn't do AT LEAST the numbers DS will do, people said exactly the same about PS1, that wouldn't do shit to N64.. lmao.
(For the record, I owned a N64, but never a PS1)

The movies part means A LOT.
Imagine the TV ads.. "MISSION IMPOSSIBLE 3, OUT ON DVD and PSP NOOOWWW!!"
Mainstream mini-TV hasn't been pulled of properly yet, I think PSP might be the gadget to do it..


when asked about battery life...sony said it's somewhere between 2 hours and 10 hours... that's a nice little difference of run times

a whopping 15 well known developers are slated to make games for it... 3 being sony's europe, america and japan counterparts

and about the movies...Sony's UMD is pretty much a new idea that they want to catch on...it doesn't mean you're going to start to see new line cinema's commiting resources to a format that may or may not catch on... so besides Son'y's stable of movies... don't expect to see scarface in portable format anytime soon
Title: Re: Tons More Nintendo DS Info and Screenshots released today
Post by: Shallow on October 08, 2004, 09:52:29 PM
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

But it's got USB ports so you can transfer the movies from your computer. The MP3 part is good too. A UMD holds about 1.8 gigs. That's a lot of MP3s. Where did you hear 15 developers. IGN has reported that 40 publishers are currently working on titles, some on multiple titles, and over 99 developers and production companies have signed on.

Look I hate the big busines taking over the video game market as much as anybody. If it were up to me it'd still be between Sega and Nintendo, but realistically speaking, it's going to be between Sony and Microsoft. Nintendo, unfortunately is doomed. It may take a while, but they'll bow out eventually. Unless a Miyamoto of the new generation pops up and creates super hit after super hit, I don't se them staying alive much longer. There pased two consoles lost their respective wars and they've announced add ons and such they didn't release. Sounds a lot like Sega. Trauma likes to brag about how Nintendo had the highest selling platform (Gameboy SP) last year, but Sega had the highest selling platform in '99 and they were out of business by 2001. These little companies just can't compete with the big boys. The day Nintendo takes out Sony, will be the day Steve Jobs takes Apple and takes out Microsoft.
Title: Re: Tons More Nintendo DS Info and Screenshots released today
Post by: Jome on October 08, 2004, 10:59:50 PM
when asked about battery life...sony said it's somewhere between 2 hours and 10 hours... that's a nice little difference of run times

Simple: Movies = Demands lots of battery power. Games = A lot less battery power. Music = Even less battery power.

a whopping 15 well known developers are slated to make games for it... 3 being sony's europe, america and japan counterparts

Gran Turismo series can run a whole system alone.. a few sick games, and everybody's getting it..

and about the movies...Sony's UMD is pretty much a new idea that they want to catch on...it doesn't mean you're going to start to see new line cinema's commiting resources to a format that may or may not catch on... so besides Son'y's stable of movies... don't expect to see scarface in portable format anytime soon

And if it catches on, expect to see big releases, big money, and big sales..
I'm not saying it's gonna blow, but with Sony behind it, it's very likely, they already own music studios, game studios and movie studios.
They're CONNECTED.. plus that big ass marketing machine..


Title: Re: Tons More Nintendo DS Info and Screenshots released today
Post by: Black_Smoke on October 09, 2004, 12:22:32 AM
isnt tha PSP gonna b $300 or even higher?
thats pretty expensive for most ppl...like me  :-\
Title: Re: Tons More Nintendo DS Info and Screenshots released today
Post by: Thirteen on October 09, 2004, 12:46:37 AM

when asked about battery life...sony said it's somewhere between 2 hours and 10 hours... that's a nice little difference of run times

a whopping 15 well known developers are slated to make games for it... 3 being sony's europe, america and japan counterparts

and about the movies...Sony's UMD is pretty much a new idea that they want to catch on...it doesn't mean you're going to start to see new line cinema's commiting resources to a format that may or may not catch on... so besides Son'y's stable of movies... don't expect to see scarface in portable format anytime soon

they don't know about the battery life yet...if you look at any other product, a company will tell you straight out, how much time you get for certain things.... 2 - 10 hours is a guesstimite at best

yes they say 99 developers are developing....and as an avid gamer, i looked through the list and there's only 15 "brand names" developers

and lastly,  Sony is always on the forefront of technology but there shit sometimes doesn't catch on...Mini disc, memory sticks, and quite a few other botched ideas when it comes to music and dvd's. plus the fact that the PSP doesn't write data...means you can't burn movies.... with the way dvd's are selling, i don't think any company would pour money into a format taht is only going to be used by one portable device
Title: Re: Tons More Nintendo DS Info and Screenshots released today
Post by: T-Dogg on October 09, 2004, 02:48:35 AM
The movie thing with the PSP could be real cool, but there ain't any guarantees that it'll work. Why? 'Cause the disc for the PSP is a new piece of media. It will take some time before movies will be distributed in this new media, especially since this piece of media won't be as wide-spread as DVD or VHS. The MiniDisc was a good music media, but only a few albums were released in that medium. The majority was still on CDs only. And MiniDisc players were popular too. The PSP will have to do at least as good as the GameBoy of the time or whatever it will be called to catch the eye of distribution companies.
Title: Re: Tons More Nintendo DS Info and Screenshots released today
Post by: Thirteen on October 09, 2004, 09:22:58 AM
The movie thing with the PSP could be real cool, but there ain't any guarantees that it'll work. Why? 'Cause the disc for the PSP is a new piece of media. It will take some time before movies will be distributed in this new media, especially since this piece of media won't be as wide-spread as DVD or VHS. The MiniDisc was a good music media, but only a few albums were released in that medium. The majority was still on CDs only. And MiniDisc players were popular too. The PSP will have to do at least as good as the GameBoy of the time or whatever it will be called to catch the eye of distribution companies.

in japan the minidisk caught on a little bit... but not nearly enough to make is succesful....i'm not gonna lie, i have a Sony minidisc player and i think it's better than most portable mp3 players.... i can fit 70 songs on a disc that costs $1
Title: Re: Tons More Nintendo DS Info and Screenshots released today
Post by: Shallow on October 09, 2004, 09:29:00 AM
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

I bought one once, but it converted to files to wav, and wouldn't let me store mp3s on it. So I took it back.
Title: Re: Tons More Nintendo DS Info and Screenshots released today
Post by: Rampant on October 09, 2004, 09:42:08 AM
i still see no point in having 2 screens.
Title: Re: Tons More Nintendo DS Info and Screenshots released today
Post by: Ðøšïå on October 09, 2004, 02:26:30 PM
those games lookin fuckin dumb for that nintendo. id rather have the playstation and play movies and audio over playing gay ass yoshi and mario for the 15th time.
Title: Re: Tons More Nintendo DS Info and Screenshots released today
Post by: Trauma-san on October 09, 2004, 06:36:21 PM
You know what I find interesting? (and I'm honestly, just saying)

The people I don't agree with, I don't agree with on ANYTHING! Look @ this thread.  the people that like the PSP better, all have the totally opposite political opinion as me, and the people that like the DS better generally like my posts and have similar views, blah blah blah.

Why is that? Are there 2 prevailing mindsets in the world that typically feel the same way about similar things? I've always wondered why that is. 
Title: Re: Tons More Nintendo DS Info and Screenshots released today
Post by: Thirteen on October 09, 2004, 07:00:49 PM
once again...for the reading impared.....the movies are going to be very secondary since they have to be put in a new format that may or may not catch on...

so this race is pretty much games vs games in the handheld market and so far nintendo has never lost even when other hand helds had more power
Title: Re: Tons More Nintendo DS Info and Screenshots released today
Post by: Shallow on October 09, 2004, 08:15:42 PM
You know what I find interesting? (and I'm honestly, just saying)

The people I don't agree with, I don't agree with on ANYTHING! Look @ this thread.  the people that like the PSP better, all have the totally opposite political opinion as me, and the people that like the DS better generally like my posts and have similar views, blah blah blah.

Why is that? Are there 2 prevailing mindsets in the world that typically feel the same way about similar things? I've always wondered why that is. 

There are a lot of things we've agreed on.
Title: Re: Tons More Nintendo DS Info and Screenshots released today
Post by: Jome on October 09, 2004, 08:47:56 PM
You know what I find interesting? (and I'm honestly, just saying)

The people I don't agree with, I don't agree with on ANYTHING! Look @ this thread.  the people that like the PSP better, all have the totally opposite political opinion as me, and the people that like the DS better generally like my posts and have similar views, blah blah blah.

Why is that? Are there 2 prevailing mindsets in the world that typically feel the same way about similar things? I've always wondered why that is. 

It's not about having 1 default preset view on things, it's about being broadminded.
You are such a big Nintendo fan that you probably can not see all the features of PSP, and in the rush ignores Sony's multi-billion worldwide marketing machine and worldwide network/contacts.

I used to think in the same way, when I bought my N64..
I was like "How the hell Sony gonna compete with Nintendo, who's been making games since before I was born, more or less.."
Then PS1 conquered the world, and near bumrushed Nintendo out of the industry, except the handheld market.
That's why I think Sony easily can do it again..

If Nintendo holds on to their "No violence, no cheap discs but cartridges/custom discs who can't be copied/burned, no mp3s or movies" policy, then they will lose out on a lot of potential buyers, just like they did with GameCube..
And I think people are starting to get tired of Mario and Donkey Kong, and all that now.. it's been done over and over.
Title: Re: Tons More Nintendo DS Info and Screenshots released today
Post by: The Watcher on October 09, 2004, 09:15:01 PM
i will get whatevers cheaper
Title: Re: Tons More Nintendo DS Info and Screenshots released today
Post by: Trauma-san on October 09, 2004, 09:33:45 PM
Jome; the PSP comes out a full year after the DS.  I'm not saying the PSP isn't going to sell, where have I said that? 

The PSP's goal was to crush Nintendo.  It won't.  Why? Because of everything I've shown in this post.  I'm sure the PSP will sell fine, I never said it would Bomb... Shallow, who's arguing about how much the DS sucks, claimed both will bomb. 
Title: Re: Tons More Nintendo DS Info and Screenshots released today
Post by: Rampant on October 09, 2004, 10:47:56 PM
Guys guys guys. I doubt either handheld will "crush" the other. Why?

You look at the games that are coming out for each one, you look at the features, you look at how it looks. And people will compare and buy whichever they like.

Some people like games like metal gear solid. Some people like mario. Its opinion.

I think the DS may do better in america, but i think sony will dominate in japan.
Title: Re: Tons More Nintendo DS Info and Screenshots released today
Post by: Shallow on October 09, 2004, 11:00:20 PM
Shallow, who's arguing about how much the DS sucks, claimed both will bomb. 

I did say that didn't I? Well after reading more about the PSP, I think it has a chance of succeeding. I still don't think the DS will do well after it's first year, and I wouldn't be surprised if the the PSP doesn't last. It was foolish to boldly claim they would both bomb. However, I still feel if they don't bomb then the PSP will come out on top. If Sony is smart, they will release blank UMDs that can be recorded on directly through the PP, thus enabling pirates to create Gameboy emulators and really hitting Nintendo where it hurts.
Title: Re: Tons More Nintendo DS Info and Screenshots released today
Post by: Black_Smoke on October 10, 2004, 10:51:51 AM
The psp isnt coming out a full year after ds,its launching THIS year in japan and then later on in america,prolly march

http://psp.ign.com/articles/555/555066p1.html



Title: Re: Tons More Nintendo DS Info and Screenshots released today
Post by: Black_Smoke on October 10, 2004, 10:52:24 AM
i will get whatevers cheaper

DS is gonna prolly b half tha price of tha PSP
Title: Re: Tons More Nintendo DS Info and Screenshots released today
Post by: Nutty on October 10, 2004, 06:15:08 PM
If SONY wants to conquer the handheld market, they'll have to pull out all the stops to dethrone NINTENDO. I believe they can do it. Pricing is all I am worried about, I dun wanna fork out several hundreds for a handheld when I already own a PS2.
Title: Re: Tons More Nintendo DS Info and Screenshots released today
Post by: Trauma-san on July 25, 2007, 04:49:06 PM
Hey Trauma, you never answered my request on the bet. I'll take it. There is no way Sony is going to lose out to this. You just let me know the wager.

Most of these games are basic gameboy games, and I don't think people will care when they just bought so many of the last Gameboys. The 64 quality games don't mean shit to me. Look how cheap the game cobe is and noboidy wants that. I'll take your bet.

I hate Sony, but Nintendo is finished, and pretty soon they'll pull a Sega and jump out of the hardware war.

Hmmmm.  I thought I'd post a little newsstory I found today.

http://wii.ign.com/articles/807/807852p1.html

Nintendo Sales Update
Wii sells nearly 10 million units around the world. Nintendo planning a hardware shipment boost.
by Matt Casamassina
July 25, 2007 - Nintendo on Wednesday announced first-quarter (the period between April and June 2007) financial results, and updated its forecasts for the coming year. The latest data reaffirms what everybody already knows, which is that the DS and Wii are both epic success stories.

The Big N revealed that cumulative Wii hardware sales now stand at 9.27 million worldwide (3.81 million being sold in the Americas alone). Meanwhile, cumulative DS sales are at a whopping 47.27 million (with 14.14 million sold in the Americas).

Nintendo had previously forecasted Wii hardware shipments of 14 million for the year, but it has since revised that number to 16.5 million, effectively upping shipments by 2.5 million units. In laymen's terms, this means that the firm expects to sell another 12.3 million Wii systems around the world between now and March of next year, increasing the total Wii worldwide installed base to 22 million.

Microsoft said this week that it sold 11.6 million Xbox 360 systems worldwide through June, which would put it a little more than two million systems ahead of Wii. It should be noted that in June, Wii outside Xbox 360 by nearly 200,000 units, and it has, in fact, outsold Microsoft's system every month this year. Given that Microsoft has no foothold in Japan, where Wii continues to dominate, Nintendo's console could and very likely will become market leader before the end of the year, if not sooner.

Nintendo has upped DS hardware shipments from 22 million to 26 million, boosting numbers by four million units for the year.

The company has increased its projections for Wii and DS software sales, too. Wii has jumped from 55 million to 72 million and DS from 130 million to 140 million.

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So....basically since the time you said Nintendo was going out of the hardware business, they've sold 47 million of these systems I was so apt to point out was cool as fuck back in the day. 
Title: Re: Tons More Nintendo DS Info and Screenshots released today
Post by: Shallow on July 26, 2007, 09:35:53 AM
Hey Trauma, you never answered my request on the bet. I'll take it. There is no way Sony is going to lose out to this. You just let me know the wager.

Most of these games are basic gameboy games, and I don't think people will care when they just bought so many of the last Gameboys. The 64 quality games don't mean shit to me. Look how cheap the game cobe is and noboidy wants that. I'll take your bet.

I hate Sony, but Nintendo is finished, and pretty soon they'll pull a Sega and jump out of the hardware war.

Hmmmm.  I thought I'd post a little newsstory I found today.

http://wii.ign.com/articles/807/807852p1.html

Nintendo Sales Update
Wii sells nearly 10 million units around the world. Nintendo planning a hardware shipment boost.
by Matt Casamassina
July 25, 2007 - Nintendo on Wednesday announced first-quarter (the period between April and June 2007) financial results, and updated its forecasts for the coming year. The latest data reaffirms what everybody already knows, which is that the DS and Wii are both epic success stories.

The Big N revealed that cumulative Wii hardware sales now stand at 9.27 million worldwide (3.81 million being sold in the Americas alone). Meanwhile, cumulative DS sales are at a whopping 47.27 million (with 14.14 million sold in the Americas).

Nintendo had previously forecasted Wii hardware shipments of 14 million for the year, but it has since revised that number to 16.5 million, effectively upping shipments by 2.5 million units. In laymen's terms, this means that the firm expects to sell another 12.3 million Wii systems around the world between now and March of next year, increasing the total Wii worldwide installed base to 22 million.

Microsoft said this week that it sold 11.6 million Xbox 360 systems worldwide through June, which would put it a little more than two million systems ahead of Wii. It should be noted that in June, Wii outside Xbox 360 by nearly 200,000 units, and it has, in fact, outsold Microsoft's system every month this year. Given that Microsoft has no foothold in Japan, where Wii continues to dominate, Nintendo's console could and very likely will become market leader before the end of the year, if not sooner.

Nintendo has upped DS hardware shipments from 22 million to 26 million, boosting numbers by four million units for the year.

The company has increased its projections for Wii and DS software sales, too. Wii has jumped from 55 million to 72 million and DS from 130 million to 140 million.

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So....basically since the time you said Nintendo was going out of the hardware business, they've sold 47 million of these systems I was so apt to point out was cool as fuck back in the day. 


I was wrong.

My brother actually bought a DS a little white back. Great system. At first when it was announced I was worried that every game would try and use both screems as game action screens and that the pen would play to much of a part. It turns out the bottom screen is almost always a menu screen of sorts (like the Dreamcast controller was) and the pen is only used for odd games. Nintendo has clearly shown that they are strong enough, with the DS and Wii, to compete for years to come.

It's actually not that hard to see a mistake was made and admit you were wrong. You should try it some time. So should most politicians.
Title: Re: Tons More Nintendo DS Info and Screenshots released today
Post by: ToOoOoN!!! on July 28, 2007, 07:08:35 AM
 cumulative DS sales are at a whopping 47.27 million (with 14.14 million sold in the Americas). :yikes: FUCK MAN LOL 
Title: Re: Tons More Nintendo DS Info and Screenshots released today
Post by: Black_Smoke on July 31, 2007, 11:51:47 AM
cumulative DS sales are at a whopping 47.27 million (with 14.14 million sold in the Americas). :yikes: FUCK MAN LOL 


yea the DS is a major success, cant wait for phantom hourglass