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Title: This is going to be controversial but in my opinion New Danger > The Love Below
Post by: On The Edge of Insanity on October 28, 2004, 12:23:28 PM
Discuss.
Title: Re: This is going to be controversial but in my opinion New Danger > The Love Below
Post by: Leggy Hendrix on October 28, 2004, 12:29:43 PM
im with you on this one...at first listen, i wasnt too happy with The New Danger, but having listened to it a bit more over the last few days, ive come to the conclusion that i now like what hes doing on it...

as for The Love Below, to be honest i was only really feelin a few tracks on it...
Title: Re: This is going to be controversial but in my opinion New Danger > The Love Below
Post by: On The Edge of Insanity on October 28, 2004, 12:37:30 PM
Yeah, when I first heard it a few tracks stood out, but having listened to it a load more times, I am actually really feeling this album. The rock influence isn't too much that its overpowering, and I actually really enjoy Mos's singing voice. I think the definite influences from other styles of music, mixed with a few straight hiphop bangers spread throughout the album actually makes this a really dope album.
Title: Re: This is going to be controversial but in my opinion New Danger > The Love Be
Post by: 7even on October 28, 2004, 02:40:52 PM
no way.
Title: Re: This is going to be controversial but in my opinion New Danger > The Love Below
Post by: mauzip on October 28, 2004, 02:44:05 PM
helllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll no
Title: Re: This is going to be controversial but in my opinion New Danger > The Love Below
Post by: Lincoln on October 28, 2004, 03:07:51 PM
Haven't heard New Danger yet but it wouldn't surprise me. The Love Below was very unoriginal, he just ripped off other people's styles. And Mos's voice is like 50 times better than Andre's.
Title: Re: This is going to be controversial but in my opinion New Danger > The Love Below
Post by: Ras Kass' Toothpick on October 28, 2004, 03:20:31 PM
no
Title: Re: This is going to be controversial but in my opinion New Danger > The Love Below
Post by: i love men who take pictures with their booty's out on October 28, 2004, 03:27:13 PM


mos is good...

but dre.. he got like 4 songs on it thats a big ass metaphor..and dre was jus bullshittin his whole album and it was nice..imo he didnt rip nobody's style..all the stuff dre did on his album started with aquemini.. so i guess he figured he should experiment with the stuff he did on liberation,synthesizer,mrs. jackson,stankonia, toilet tisha, and a couple of other songs..'


love above= an experiment gone good
Title: Re: This is going to be controversial but in my opinion New Danger > The Love Be
Post by: Don Jacob on October 29, 2004, 12:54:47 AM
that's kinda retarded to say dre ripped a bunch of people's style when i listen to new danger mos ripped a lot more.


imo i like dre's album alot more, mos' s album seemed to flow a lot less and at some points it felt like it was missing soul, but dre's album, man that was like ear drum sex.
Title: Re: This is going to be controversial but in my opinion New Danger > The Love Be
Post by: MANBEARPIG. on October 29, 2004, 01:43:54 AM
I cant agree, Love Below had different styles on it, I was feeling thediversity of it all the most.


I liove them both but

Love Below>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>The New Danger
Title: Re: This is going to be controversial but in my opinion New Danger > The Love Below
Post by: Kill on October 29, 2004, 03:00:58 AM


mos is good...

but dre.. he got like 4 songs on it thats a big ass metaphor..and dre was jus bullshittin his whole album and it was nice..imo he didnt rip nobody's style..all the stuff dre did on his album started with aquemini.. so i guess he figured he should experiment with the stuff he did on liberation,synthesizer,mrs. jackson,stankonia, toilet tisha, and a couple of other songs..'


love above= an experiment gone good


(apart from Andre as a singer) i agree. I liked the Mos Def, but he did indeed rip just as many styles in a way (and recycled two beats) and "Love Below" was more entertaining and overall interesting to me...Mos was still good tho
Title: Re: This is going to be controversial but in my opinion New Danger > The Love Below
Post by: white Boy on October 30, 2004, 08:52:40 AM
truthfully i liked love below.. i thought it went great together.. and a perfect ending.. with andre rapping amazing..
mos def.. i think sings better.. but this album.. like raskass toothpick siad.. is so all over the place..
 the guitar shit is corny.. i dont like that 1 song with the nas beat.. rape over.. ?... theres only a handfull of good songs.. he should have put this album together better
Title: Re: This is going to be controversial but in my opinion New Danger > The Love Below
Post by: Lincoln on October 30, 2004, 08:53:00 AM
Well I haven't quite finished New Danger, but I'm liking it way more than The Love Below. Especially that Blue Black Jack song, I thought Buddy Guy was playing on that it was so good.
Title: Re: This is going to be controversial but in my opinion New Danger > The Love Below
Post by: Kill on October 30, 2004, 10:13:03 AM
truthfully i liked love below.. i thought it went great together.. and a perfect ending.. with andre rapping amazing..
mos def.. i think sings better.. but this album.. like raskass toothpick siad.. is so all over the place..
 the guitar shit is corny.. i dont like that 1 song with the nas beat.. rape over.. ?... theres only a handfull of good songs.. he should have put this album together better

Rape Over - Jay-Z's Takeover (prod. by Kanye)
Grown Man Business - Nas' No Idea's Original (prod. by Alchemist)
Title: Re: This is going to be controversial but in my opinion New Danger > The Love Below
Post by: white Boy on October 30, 2004, 10:15:49 AM
ok.. so mos def over those beats would be cool for a mixtape.. but just throwing them on his album.. not a good choice.. imo
Title: Re: This is going to be controversial but in my opinion New Danger > The Love Below
Post by: Don Breezio on October 30, 2004, 10:20:18 AM
i cant really make an acurate opinion because of the fact that i never listened to the love below....i got the new danger and listened to it right away....i really like that album.....but i got the love below back when it first came out (along with another cd...cant remember what) and i listened to the other cd right away....and then i never listened to the love below...something about it just didnt make me want to listen to it...maybe it was the constant plague of outkast singles over the past few years...miss jackson, rosa parks, so fresh so clean, the way you move, & roses...whatever it was...never made me want to listen to it...i threw it away a week or so ago.
Title: Re: This is going to be controversial but in my opinion New Danger > The Love Below
Post by: Kill on October 30, 2004, 10:35:22 AM
ok.. so mos def over those beats would be cool for a mixtape.. but just throwing them on his album.. not a good choice.. imo

yes. I like "Rape Over" cause it's short and has kind of a sarcastic message he delivers nicely, so it's like a skit and i kinda like it. But "Grown Man Business" does bother me, it's a full-length song with a recycled beat and Nas' rapping shitted all over both Minnesota's and Mos' back in like 1999 when he recorded it...he made that a hella dope song and from what I know he was the first to use that beat
Title: Re: This is going to be controversial but in my opinion New Danger > The Love Be
Post by: Leggy Hendrix on October 30, 2004, 10:42:55 AM
ok.. so mos def over those beats would be cool for a mixtape.. but just throwing them on his album.. not a good choice.. imo

yes. I like "Rape Over" cause it's short and has kind of a sarcastic message he delivers nicely, so it's like a skit and i kinda like it. But "Grown Man Business" does bother me, it's a full-length song with a recycled beat and Nas' rapping shitted all over both Minnesota's and Mos' back in like 1999 when he recorded it...he made that a hella dope song and from what I know he was the first to use that beat

you do know its a sample...
Title: Re: This is going to be controversial but in my opinion New Danger > The Love Below
Post by: white Boy on October 30, 2004, 10:46:08 AM
dope song thats sample too.. doors - five to one.. in case people didnt know

and as im typing this i realize... do u mean the nas song?
Title: Re: This is going to be controversial but in my opinion New Danger > The Love Be
Post by: Leggy Hendrix on October 30, 2004, 10:51:22 AM
dope song thats sample too.. doors - five to one.. in case people didnt know

and as im typing this i realize... do u mean the nas song?

yup...
Title: Re: This is going to be controversial but in my opinion New Danger > The Love Below
Post by: On The Edge of Insanity on October 30, 2004, 11:20:42 AM
Yeah Grown Man Business just uses the same sample as the Nas track. Overall I just felt that the New Danger was better than Love Below, it felt more personal to Mos to me than Love Below did for Andre. The whole electronica/Prince thing on Love Below just annoyed me after a while, and I actually ended up trading in that double Outkast album cause there was nothing that made me want to listen to either of the cds. The Mos album may not be the best put together album ever, buts that because I don't think Mos himself really knows what he is at the moment, rapper, signer, musician, actor, and you see that in the songs on The New Danger. Plus, when your Black Jack Johnson group includes legends such as Bernie Worrell then you know that the band played elements aren't going to let your album down.
Title: Re: This is going to be controversial but in my opinion New Danger > The Love Below
Post by: white Boy on October 30, 2004, 11:22:42 AM
^ r u talkin about the rock on it.. cause i thought it was terrible..
Title: Re: This is going to be controversial but in my opinion New Danger > The Love Below
Post by: On The Edge of Insanity on October 30, 2004, 11:36:34 AM
Yeah I thought the rock elements on the album were pretty tight.
Title: Re: This is going to be controversial but in my opinion New Danger > The Love Be
Post by: Kill on October 30, 2004, 01:17:48 PM
ok.. so mos def over those beats would be cool for a mixtape.. but just throwing them on his album.. not a good choice.. imo

yes. I like "Rape Over" cause it's short and has kind of a sarcastic message he delivers nicely, so it's like a skit and i kinda like it. But "Grown Man Business" does bother me, it's a full-length song with a recycled beat and Nas' rapping shitted all over both Minnesota's and Mos' back in like 1999 when he recorded it...he made that a hella dope song and from what I know he was the first to use that beat

you do know its a sample...

yeah i did know it's a sample, i admit i didn't remember who had been sampled, but thing is it's like Jenny From The Block: It's the same excerpt of the same song, sampled in the exact same way, the whistle part in the background is brought in the same way at the same point and the track starts off and shit kicks in in the exact same way too...so well, anybody who hated J-Lo for usin "Hi-Jack" like Ju did, the fact it's a sample don't 'defend' Mos. I'm not sayin it's a crime, but it is kinda lame to put this on an album like that, especially when the rapper who first used it ripped the beat better
Title: Re: This is going to be controversial but in my opinion New Danger > The Love Be
Post by: Leggy Hendrix on October 30, 2004, 01:20:14 PM
I'm not sayin it's a crime, but it is kinda lame to put this on an album like that, especially when the rapper who first used it ripped the beat better

what makes this Mos solo album different that he shouldn't use a sample that somebody else has used?
Title: Re: This is going to be controversial but in my opinion New Danger > The Love Be
Post by: Kill on October 30, 2004, 02:01:29 PM
I'm not sayin it's a crime, but it is kinda lame to put this on an album like that, especially when the rapper who first used it ripped the beat better

what makes this Mos solo album different that he shouldn't use a sample that somebody else has used?

he used it the exact same way, that's all i'm saying. that's not very creative. i don't hate him for that
Title: Re: This is going to be controversial but in my opinion New Danger > The Love Below
Post by: GangstaBoogy on October 30, 2004, 05:25:39 PM
helllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll no
Title: Re: This is going to be controversial but in my opinion New Danger > The Love Be
Post by: Shallow on November 01, 2004, 11:15:01 AM
ok.. so mos def over those beats would be cool for a mixtape.. but just throwing them on his album.. not a good choice.. imo

yes. I like "Rape Over" cause it's short and has kind of a sarcastic message he delivers nicely, so it's like a skit and i kinda like it. But "Grown Man Business" does bother me, it's a full-length song with a recycled beat and Nas' rapping shitted all over both Minnesota's and Mos' back in like 1999 when he recorded it...he made that a hella dope song and from what I know he was the first to use that beat


What song did Nas do with that beat?
Title: Re: This is going to be controversial but in my opinion New Danger > The Love Be
Post by: Leggy Hendrix on November 01, 2004, 12:11:52 PM
ok.. so mos def over those beats would be cool for a mixtape.. but just throwing them on his album.. not a good choice.. imo

yes. I like "Rape Over" cause it's short and has kind of a sarcastic message he delivers nicely, so it's like a skit and i kinda like it. But "Grown Man Business" does bother me, it's a full-length song with a recycled beat and Nas' rapping shitted all over both Minnesota's and Mos' back in like 1999 when he recorded it...he made that a hella dope song and from what I know he was the first to use that beat


What song did Nas do with that beat?

No Idea's Original...
Title: Re: This is going to be controversial but in my opinion New Danger > The Love Below
Post by: Ras Kass' Toothpick on November 01, 2004, 12:48:00 PM
Ghostface used that sample (Barry White's "I'm Gonna Love You Just A Little Bit More Babe") too for "The Watch" which was on bootlegs a couple of years ago if I'm not mistaken.
Title: Re: This is going to be controversial but in my opinion New Danger > The Love Be
Post by: Leggy Hendrix on November 01, 2004, 02:08:01 PM
^^yup...
Title: Re: This is going to be controversial but in my opinion New Danger > The Love Be
Post by: Shallow on November 01, 2004, 05:10:48 PM
ok.. so mos def over those beats would be cool for a mixtape.. but just throwing them on his album.. not a good choice.. imo

yes. I like "Rape Over" cause it's short and has kind of a sarcastic message he delivers nicely, so it's like a skit and i kinda like it. But "Grown Man Business" does bother me, it's a full-length song with a recycled beat and Nas' rapping shitted all over both Minnesota's and Mos' back in like 1999 when he recorded it...he made that a hella dope song and from what I know he was the first to use that beat


What song did Nas do with that beat?

No Idea's Original...


Oh yeah. I was thinking a song from an official album, and I couldn't think of one. Thanks.


Didn't Barry White hate the thought of rappers sampling his music?
Title: Re: This is going to be controversial but in my opinion New Danger > The Love Be
Post by: Sikotic™ on November 02, 2004, 07:09:17 PM
The New Danger is weak. I'm really disappointed in it. Doesn't touch The Love Below.