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Lifestyle => Sports & Entertainment => Topic started by: ARYC on October 31, 2004, 08:22:09 AM

Title: wrestlers dying during or after matches?
Post by: ARYC on October 31, 2004, 08:22:09 AM
i'v head of a couple of storys of guys dying in the ring or collapsing during a match and dying later , these events are few and far inbetween  but here's a story:
 the story of Masakazu Fukuda from SSS:

During his match with Katsuyori Shibata on 4/14/00, Fukuda was hit by a flying elbow smash. His movement became sluggish, and he eventually collapsed on to the mat in a serious condition. He was rushed to Kessunuma General Hospital, where it was determined that he had internal bleeding of the brain. For days New Japan and it's fans prayed, with many wrestlers, including Shinya Hashimoto, travelling to the hospital to see him. On 4/19/00 at 3:28am, Masakazu Fukuda passed away, the official cause an acute hard membrane lower bloody tumor in his brain. He was 27 years of age, and was planning to announce his engagement in May. On 4/20/00, Hidekazu Tanaka wept as he announced to the fans that Fukuda had passed away, and Yoshie stood in the ring with a picture of him, while Nagata rang the bell ten times in his memory. On 4/21/00, six hundred people attended the funeral of Fukuda, which was funded by New Japan. Fukuda was laid to rest in his New Japan t-shirt, a lasting reminder of his love for wrestling.
Title: Re: wrestlers dying during or after matches?
Post by: Trauma-san on October 31, 2004, 03:51:44 PM
There was a rumour going around for years that Hulk Hogan killed somebody in the ring early in his career, but it was later proven false.  That's one of the things Hogan can brag about (well, he brags about a lot of things).... he's never hurt anybody in the ring.  I believe the same can be said for Bret Hart, and Yokozuna too, off the top of my head, I've heard it mentioned before that they were really safe wrestlers who had never hurt anyone.  I'm sure there's many more but I know for a fact these three never injured anybody.  I think that's one sign of a true wrestler, protecting their opponent.  I'm not trying to say Hogan is as good of a wrestler as Hart, though, I'm just saying in that aspect, they're similar. 
Title: Re: wrestlers dying during or after matches?
Post by: 7even on October 31, 2004, 03:56:27 PM
wrestlers who kill their opponent must really suck.
Title: Re: wrestlers dying during or after matches?
Post by: MANBEARPIG. on October 31, 2004, 04:46:48 PM
There was a rumour going around for years that Hulk Hogan killed somebody in the ring early in his career, but it was later proven false.  That's one of the things Hogan can brag about (well, he brags about a lot of things).... he's never hurt anybody in the ring.  I believe the same can be said for Bret Hart, and Yokozuna too, off the top of my head, I've heard it mentioned before that they were really safe wrestlers who had never hurt anyone.  I'm sure there's many more but I know for a fact these three never injured anybody.  I think that's one sign of a true wrestler, protecting their opponent.  I'm not trying to say Hogan is as good of a wrestler as Hart, though, I'm just saying in that aspect, they're similar. 


I thought I heard about Yokozuna killing someone before by accident ???
Title: Re: wrestlers dying during or after matches?
Post by: daWappla on October 31, 2004, 05:21:48 PM
I once read that Marty Janetty did a rocker dropper on his opponent and fucked it up so that his opponents neck broke and he later died.. but donīt know if thatīs true..
Title: Re: wrestlers dying during or after matches?
Post by: Dave Shining on October 31, 2004, 05:37:58 PM
^^^ i heard that somewhere to
Title: Re: wrestlers dying during or after matches?
Post by: ARYC on October 31, 2004, 09:18:37 PM
" I'm not trying to say Hogan is as good of a wrestler as Hart, though, I'm just saying in that aspect, they're similar. "

personally , I think highly of Hulk Hogan back in the day because he knew how to get the most out of his match and the fans are always into it and that's what matters the most , he's not the best wrestler , he's no Ric Flair or Curt Henning but he's a good worker

Also "the million dollar man "Ted DiBiasie's dad died in the ring
Title: Re: wrestlers dying during or after matches?
Post by: Trauma-san on October 31, 2004, 10:15:33 PM
^ No argument from me, Hogan's my fav. wrestler easily.
Title: Re: wrestlers dying during or after matches?
Post by: Don Seer on November 01, 2004, 05:52:16 AM

when I used to do judo i got the shit scared outta me... i was at a regional championship fighting some guy and i had him in a choke hold and dude had a asthma attack.. his parents went nuts on me n shit...  lol... how the fuck was i supposed to know? he shouldnt have been fighting a sport where i guess 80% of victories are won by some kind of hold..
Title: Re: wrestlers dying during or after matches?
Post by: Jay ay Beee on November 01, 2004, 07:25:22 AM
The Undertaker is meant to be really safe


Mick Foley said in his book that he wouldn't have done the Hell in the Cell stunts with any other wrestler.


What about the least safe?

Scott Steiner is notorious
Title: Re: wrestlers dying during or after matches?
Post by: ARYC on November 01, 2004, 07:42:46 AM
"Scott Steiner is notorious"

yeah , ever since he became a roided up monster he's been very unsafe , but back in the day he was a great wrestler , to truly see the evolution of Scott Steiner , his finisher in Japan was the steiner screwdriver (where he picks the guy up in a suplex then tombstones) and then it was the steiner recliner , so he went from innovative agile big guy to well just a big guy
Title: Re: wrestlers dying during or after matches?
Post by: Thirteen on November 01, 2004, 07:57:00 AM
what ever hapend to Droz? last i heard he was a cripple
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Post by: ecrazy on November 01, 2004, 11:22:11 AM
^^yup, he works for wwe.com writing articles now
Title: Re: wrestlers dying during or after matches?
Post by: bez on November 01, 2004, 11:28:22 AM
I heard D-Lo fucked up the running powerbomb on him and broke his neck.

I heard that the string that held the blue blazer was very unsafe.

Title: Re: wrestlers dying during or after matches?
Post by: Shallow on November 01, 2004, 12:07:53 PM
There was a rumour going around for years that Hulk Hogan killed somebody in the ring early in his career, but it was later proven false.  That's one of the things Hogan can brag about (well, he brags about a lot of things).... he's never hurt anybody in the ring.  I believe the same can be said for Bret Hart, and Yokozuna too, off the top of my head, I've heard it mentioned before that they were really safe wrestlers who had never hurt anyone.  I'm sure there's many more but I know for a fact these three never injured anybody.  I think that's one sign of a true wrestler, protecting their opponent.  I'm not trying to say Hogan is as good of a wrestler as Hart, though, I'm just saying in that aspect, they're similar. 


I'm not trying to rag on the Hulkster, but he never did any moves that could have really hurt anybody. Besides, he KO'ed Inoki in Japan with a lariat.
Title: Re: wrestlers dying during or after matches?
Post by: ARYC on November 02, 2004, 05:47:39 AM
"I'm not trying to rag on the Hulkster, but he never did any moves that could have really hurt anybody. Besides, he KO'ed Inoki in Japan with a lariat."

yeah i heard a lot of stuff about that  , I also heard that the yakuza threatened Inoki so he faked being KO'ed or whatever , weird shit
Title: Re: wrestlers dying during or after matches?
Post by: Shallow on November 02, 2004, 08:27:38 AM
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

The story I heard was that Inoki was supposed to win, but a surprise fuck up by the Hulkster knocked out Antonio and and good ol' Terry Gene got the win. I'm surprised Hulk made out of their alive. Inoki in Japan was way bigger than Hogan ever was in the States. Shit, Inoki in Japan was bigger than Tom Cruise ever was in the states. That guy is a national treasure.
Title: Re: wrestlers dying during or after matches?
Post by: ARYC on November 02, 2004, 10:25:21 AM
Inoki is God like in Japan and the head of one of my favorite wrestling companys ever in New Japan , but man he's been doing some stupid shit like putting one oh his biggest stars (Nagata) in a shoot fight against Mirko Cro Cop off all people , i mean why not just throw him in the ocean and tell him to wrestle a great white shark.
Inoki's old matches are cool though , I've seen quite a few on The wrestling channel ,it's a different style then what I'm use to but still good
Title: Re: wrestlers dying during or after matches?
Post by: Shallow on November 02, 2004, 01:25:34 PM
Inoki is God like in Japan and the head of one of my favorite wrestling companys ever in New Japan , but man he's been doing some stupid shit like putting one oh his biggest stars (Nagata) in a shoot fight against Mirko Cro Cop off all people , i mean why not just throw him in the ocean and tell him to wrestle a great white shark.
Inoki's old matches are cool though , I've seen quite a few on The wrestling channel ,it's a different style then what I'm use to but still good


Did they fight yet?
Title: Re: wrestlers dying during or after matches?
Post by: ARYC on November 03, 2004, 07:24:06 AM
"Did they fight yet?"

yeah that happened quite a while ago (not sure of the date) but Nagata got KO'd pretty early.
Title: Re: wrestlers dying during or after matches?
Post by: Sikotic™ on November 03, 2004, 07:30:08 AM
All the new guys are dangerous so it will be a matter of time before another wrestler dies in the ring.
Title: Re: wrestlers dying during or after matches?
Post by: ARYC on November 04, 2004, 05:46:51 AM
"All the new guys are dangerous so it will be a matter of time before another wrestler dies in the ring."

yeah that's a problem , they're hiring roided up muscle heads who can't wrestle , sure the matches won't be good and they'll never draw money based on muscle alone , but they're FUCKING dangerous in the ring , Stevie Richards wrestled Heindenreich TWICE last year and got injured in BOTH matches , come on now....
Title: Re: wrestlers dying during or after matches?
Post by: Shallow on November 04, 2004, 08:06:01 AM
The problem is that Vince doesn't seem to care anymore. He's always made stupid decisions, but this year is looking like WCW '98. If it gets to WCW '99, then we are in trouble. There is no one else out there to compete with him. Wrestling is in a rut right now and no one wants to stick their foot in. Those with the ability to make a good company don't have the money, and those with the money don't have the ability. If a rich guy were to start a promotion and hire Heyman, Patterson, and Cornette to run the creative then Vince would be in trouble and have to start working over time. He'd realize that the push HHH is getting is a complete joke and he'd have to make new stars.