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Title: the GOVERNMENT MAKES MARIJUANA a "GATEWAY DRUG"
Post by: smartass on November 09, 2004, 07:22:08 PM
A-the smoker, B-non smoker

example:2 teenagers have been best friends for a long time. one of them smokes, but the other one doesn't know it, and he hasn't brought it up to his friend in fear of his friend not being cool with him anymore. both of them are good kids, and A wouldnt fit the typical "stoner" stereo-type.
he gets good grades, rarely gets in trouble, and just handles his business. one day they are sitting around, and its kinda beat. they are watching tv and they see one of those free-vibe anti-pot commercials, and A thinks to himself "this would be the perfect time to see what he thinks about smoking", so he asks him in a joking manner, and B says that he has never tried it, but he likes to keep an open mind on things. A asks him if he would want to try it, and he hesitates a little, because of all the things that have been fed to him through our government. they are about to go somewhere now, and being the adventorous, and curious type that teenagers usually are, B asks A if he had ever smoked before, A thinks its a good time to "come clean" with it now, so he responds and tells him that he does it every once in awhile. without being "peer pressured" B then asks him if he happens to have any at the moment. A says yeah, and he could try it if he wanted to. B tries it out, and finds out its nothing like how its been told to him. he enjoys it, and later down the line he starts smoking more often. one day, hes chillin with someone else and the guy asks him if he has ever tried crack before?
after finding out that weed isnt so bad, he decides to give it a shot. he gets hooked on it, and unlike weed, he cant stop doing it whenever he wants. hes constantly wasting money on it, going into withdraw, in and out of counseling, and his life has completely went into the ground. anyway, the point of the example is that the government is filling young kids minds with propaganda about marijuana, and once they find out that its untrue, they dont trust what they have to say about other drugs anymore...

or am i reaching?
Title: Re: the GOVERNMENT MAKES MARIJUANA a "GATEWAY DRUG"
Post by: white Boy on November 09, 2004, 07:53:10 PM
lets stay out of tot... :).. na im just kiddin u got a small point
Title: Re: the GOVERNMENT MAKES MARIJUANA a "GATEWAY DRUG"
Post by: Westcoastin' on November 09, 2004, 08:08:08 PM
A-the smoker, B-non smoker

example:2 teenagers have been best friends for a long time. one of them smokes, but the other one doesn't know it, and he hasn't brought it up to his friend in fear of his friend not being cool with him anymore. both of them are good kids, and A wouldnt fit the typical "stoner" stereo-type.
he gets good grades, rarely gets in trouble, and just handles his business. one day they are sitting around, and its kinda beat. they are watching tv and they see one of those free-vibe anti-pot commercials, and A thinks to himself "this would be the perfect time to see what he thinks about smoking", so he asks him in a joking manner, and B says that he has never tried it, but he likes to keep an open mind on things. A asks him if he would want to try it, and he hesitates a little, because of all the things that have been fed to him through our government. they are about to go somewhere now, and being the adventorous, and curious type that teenagers usually are, B asks A if he had ever smoked before, A thinks its a good time to "come clean" with it now, so he responds and tells him that he does it every once in awhile. without being "peer pressured" B then asks him if he happens to have any at the moment. A says yeah, and he could try it if he wanted to. B tries it out, and finds out its nothing like how its been told to him. he enjoys it, and later down the line he starts smoking more often. one day, hes chillin with someone else and the guy asks him if he has ever tried crack before?
after finding out that weed isnt so bad, he decides to give it a shot. he gets hooked on it, and unlike weed, he cant stop doing it whenever he wants. hes constantly wasting money on it, going into withdraw, in and out of counseling, and his life has completely went into the ground. anyway, the point of the example is that the government is filling young kids minds with propaganda about marijuana, and once they find out that its untrue, they dont trust what they have to say about other drugs anymore...

or am i reaching?

worth the read
Title: Re: the GOVERNMENT MAKES MARIJUANA a "GATEWAY DRUG"
Post by: Don Seer on November 10, 2004, 01:41:20 AM

there is is truth in it..

i started out smoking weed... ended up doing some speed, ketamine and lots of LSD and some shrooms.. i dont do anything these days..


nearly *all* my friends here outside work do E's, MDMA powder, speed & cocaine regularly.. one is a former heroin addict and has been in jail coz he got caught stealing to feed that shit.. 

i find it hard to meet people that dont do lots of drugs! how loco is that?


Title: Re: the GOVERNMENT MAKES MARIJUANA a "GATEWAY DRUG"
Post by: 7even on November 10, 2004, 06:42:05 AM
no, weed is good.
alcohol is worse and everybody acts like it's nothing, especially in europe.
I wanna slap exactly anyone who drinks and talks shit about weed-heads.
I also dont see why you would do crack just because youre smoking weed lol?
That's like saying you smoke weed in a consequence to smoking tabacco or something.
Everybody knows crack is havier than weed. If they smoke crack, they know it's a few levels harder. They know it, and they want it. It's their thang.
Title: Re: the GOVERNMENT MAKES MARIJUANA a "GATEWAY DRUG"
Post by: smartass on November 10, 2004, 08:51:20 AM
no, weed is good.
alcohol is worse and everybody acts like it's nothing, especially in europe.
I wanna slap exactly anyone who drinks and talks shit about weed-heads.
I also dont see why you would do crack just because youre smoking weed lol?
That's like saying you smoke weed in a consequence to smoking tabacco or something.
Everybody knows crack is havier than weed. If they smoke crack, they know it's a few levels harder. They know it, and they want it. It's their thang.
of course they wouldn't start out going straight to crack. it would most likely be shrooms next, but i just didn't feel like making up any more story along the line. young kids are very impressionable, and i made it apparent this was geared to the younger generation. i smoke bud too. im just smart enough to stay out of the other shit. im not trying to make this into a "weed is good" thread though, maybe next time. i did steal the spotlight before. ;D
Title: Re: the GOVERNMENT MAKES MARIJUANA a "GATEWAY DRUG"
Post by: acbaylove on November 10, 2004, 09:26:24 AM
i find it hard to meet people that dont do lots of drugs!

Wassup? ::)
Title: Re: the GOVERNMENT MAKES MARIJUANA a "GATEWAY DRUG"
Post by: Don Seer on November 10, 2004, 09:33:44 AM
its true.. all my friends ever do when we go out is take a few E's in the course of the night.. spend the whole time going on about how amazing it is.. * while they're sat doing nothing * not dancing or anything!.. then a few hours later they start gurning...
Title: Re: the GOVERNMENT MAKES MARIJUANA a "GATEWAY DRUG"
Post by: acbaylove on November 10, 2004, 10:02:10 AM
its true.. all my friends ever do when we go out is take a few E's in the course of the night.. spend the whole time going on about how amazing it is.. * while they're sat doing nothing * not dancing or anything!.. then a few hours later they start gurning...

If they are happy that way.. i got nothing against it. I dance and fuck. ;D :)
Title: Re: the GOVERNMENT MAKES MARIJUANA a "GATEWAY DRUG"
Post by: tommyilromano on November 11, 2004, 08:58:09 AM
no, weed is good.
alcohol is worse and everybody acts like it's nothing, especially in europe.
I wanna slap exactly anyone who drinks and talks shit about weed-heads.
I also dont see why you would do crack just because youre smoking weed lol?
That's like saying you smoke weed in a consequence to smoking tabacco or something.
Everybody knows crack is havier than weed. If they smoke crack, they know it's a few levels harder. They know it, and they want it. It's their thang.

Everybody has thier "drug." Some people eat too much, some people smoke cigs, and some smoke weed. Religion can also be a drug for some people who get too wrapped up in it. Anything in excess probably isn't good. There are certain things people should probably never do... like smoke crack, drink gasoline, etc... People just need to use common sense.
Title: Re: the GOVERNMENT MAKES MARIJUANA a "GATEWAY DRUG"
Post by: acbaylove on November 11, 2004, 09:58:07 AM
no, weed is good.
alcohol is worse and everybody acts like it's nothing, especially in europe.
I wanna slap exactly anyone who drinks and talks shit about weed-heads.
I also dont see why you would do crack just because youre smoking weed lol?
That's like saying you smoke weed in a consequence to smoking tabacco or something.
Everybody knows crack is havier than weed. If they smoke crack, they know it's a few levels harder. They know it, and they want it. It's their thang.

Everybody has thier "drug." Some people eat too much, some people smoke cigs, and some smoke weed. Religion can also be a drug for some people who get too wrapped up in it. Anything in excess probably isn't good. There are certain things people should probably never do... like smoke crack, drink gasoline, etc... People just need to use common sense.

Exactly.
Title: Re: the GOVERNMENT MAKES MARIJUANA a "GATEWAY DRUG"
Post by: rafsta on December 04, 2004, 06:15:29 PM
no, weed is good.
alcohol is worse and everybody acts like it's nothing, especially in europe.
I wanna slap exactly anyone who drinks and talks shit about weed-heads.
I also dont see why you would do crack just because youre smoking weed lol?
That's like saying you smoke weed in a consequence to smoking tabacco or something.
Everybody knows crack is havier than weed. If they smoke crack, they know it's a few levels harder. They know it, and they want it. It's their thang.

crime wise alcohol is worse, weed is a gateway drug coz its mind wasted, it can open doors in ure brain, alcohol youre body gets fucked up, its no gateway drug... not everyone will go from weed to crack, but someone that smokes weed prolly has a real high chance of tryin other drugs...
Title: Re: the GOVERNMENT MAKES MARIJUANA a "GATEWAY DRUG"
Post by: Trauma-san on December 04, 2004, 08:36:16 PM
I think what it boils down to is the people that are likely to not have a problem smoking pot are the type of people that probably wouldn't have a problem doing a little speed or X or something as well.  It's not really a gateway drug, just that it's the easiest to get, so likely the first anybody tries.  they try other drugs not because the weed makes them crave them, but because their personality (already exibited by their willingness to smoke sticks) is such that they are open to doing drugs. 

My personality is totally different, I don't crave drugs, so I'm not likely to do any.
Title: Re: the GOVERNMENT MAKES MARIJUANA a "GATEWAY DRUG"
Post by: Jimmy Cash2120 on December 05, 2004, 01:45:50 PM
I think what it boils down to is the people that are likely to not have a problem smoking pot are the type of people that probably wouldn't have a problem doing a little speed or X or something as well.  It's not really a gateway drug, just that it's the easiest to get, so likely the first anybody tries.  they try other drugs not because the weed makes them crave them, but because their personality (already exibited by their willingness to smoke sticks) is such that they are open to doing drugs. 

My personality is totally different, I don't crave drugs, so I'm not likely to do any.

I smoke weed about every day

someone who smokes weed is more likely to use other drugs

we need to stop spending so much on the drug war and spend more on education
we should be teaching kids about the dangers of drugs and not busting Joe Potsmoker for having half a gram in his pocket
Title: Re: the GOVERNMENT MAKES MARIJUANA a "GATEWAY DRUG"
Post by: Rampant on December 05, 2004, 01:58:27 PM
i feel you on the pot part, but to say it leads to crack is stupid.

You gotta be pretty stupid to think weed and crack are basically the same. However ive never done crack, so maybe its just the governments propoganda working in me.  ;D
Title: Re: the GOVERNMENT MAKES MARIJUANA a "GATEWAY DRUG"
Post by: white Boy on December 05, 2004, 02:04:26 PM
^ have u tried weed yet?
Title: Re: the GOVERNMENT MAKES MARIJUANA a "GATEWAY DRUG"
Post by: RAP QUAKE on December 05, 2004, 03:46:19 PM
well lets end the argument of all thses conservative ppl in here...DRINKING ALCOHOL MAKES U MORE LIKELY TO TRY CRACK!!! And the funny thing is that ITS TRUE...
Title: Re: the GOVERNMENT MAKES MARIJUANA a "GATEWAY DRUG"
Post by: _That_Cracka_J on December 05, 2004, 04:24:13 PM
I don't smoke or do anything else, but all my crackaz do.  I use to think that was ridiculous to call weed a gateway drug until I saw my friends then try extasy, acid and coke.  I now believe it's a gateway drug.  My crackaz all agree, too.
Title: Re: the GOVERNMENT MAKES MARIJUANA a "GATEWAY DRUG"
Post by: rafsta on December 05, 2004, 05:40:51 PM
well lets end the argument of all thses conservative ppl in here...DRINKING ALCOHOL MAKES U MORE LIKELY TO TRY CRACK!!! And the funny thing is that ITS TRUE...

i disagree, how many pot heads smoke crack, compared to alcohol users ? use common sence, almost everyone drinks alcohol, not everyone smokes pot, but a good majority would be tryin other drugs (maybe not crack but lsd mushies xtasy etc...)

THERE IS NO DOUBT IN MY MIND WEED IS A GATEMAY DRUG.....

Title: Re: the GOVERNMENT MAKES MARIJUANA a "GATEWAY DRUG"
Post by: 7even on December 06, 2004, 05:10:52 AM
Bullshit. Trauma is right in what he said. It's like being good in maths improves your language skills because people who arent retarded in maths can also write decent essays. LOL. When on the real side it just comes down to good or bad students in general.
Same with those drugs. Somebody who is likely to do illegal drugs, is simply more likely to do crack than somebody who isnt likely to do illegal drugs. Weed is just called the gateway drug cause it's the most likely to be done illegal drug. Nothing else. I mean apples arent a gateway fruit just because most people who eat apples also eat oranges? Bitches.
Title: Re: the GOVERNMENT MAKES MARIJUANA a "GATEWAY DRUG"
Post by: rafsta on December 06, 2004, 10:35:30 AM
Bullshit. Trauma is right in what he said. It's like being good in maths improves your language skills because people who arent retarded in maths can also write decent essays. LOL. When on the real side it just comes down to good or bad students in general.
Same with those drugs. Somebody who is likely to do illegal drugs, is simply more likely to do crack than somebody who isnt likely to do illegal drugs. Weed is just called the gateway drug cause it's the most likely to be done illegal drug. Nothing else. I mean apples arent a gateway fruit just because most people who eat apples also eat oranges? Bitches.


i dont think you gettin high off that THC filter bong you smokin out of....
Title: Re: the GOVERNMENT MAKES MARIJUANA a "GATEWAY DRUG"
Post by: 7even on December 06, 2004, 10:59:40 AM
Understand that I dont smoke out of this bong for one time's sake. Secondly I doubt it filters THC.
Title: Re: the GOVERNMENT MAKES MARIJUANA a "GATEWAY DRUG"
Post by: _That_Cracka_J on December 06, 2004, 02:20:43 PM
Somebody who is likely to do illegal drugs, is simply more likely to do crack than somebody who isnt likely to do illegal drugs. 

Exactly the point...if someone is going to smoke crack, do you think that is the first drug they ever did?  I highly doubt it...they probably started with weed, took some pills, acid, etc.  That person who does crack just doesn't decide one day to make that the first drug he's ever tried.  That is what it makes it a gateway drug.

Somebody who is likely to do illegal drugs, is simply more likely to do crack than somebody who isnt likely to do illegal drugs. 
Bitches.


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Title: Re: the GOVERNMENT MAKES MARIJUANA a "GATEWAY DRUG"
Post by: Jimmy Cash2120 on December 06, 2004, 06:29:37 PM
Understand that I dont smoke out of this bong for one time's sake. Secondly I doubt it filters THC.

THC is not absorbed by water
Title: Re: the GOVERNMENT MAKES MARIJUANA a "GATEWAY DRUG"
Post by: RAP QUAKE on December 07, 2004, 12:02:24 AM
dude theres been a study on this man, weed does get filtered out in water a little bit....which was found in a study done to find which is safer (depending on the thc/tar ratio of method) which found smoking a joint is healthier than smoking out of the bong, if ur tryin to get high...cuz with a joint ur bound to smoke less and get less tar in ur lungs total as compared to bong!!! Anyway 7even good points man, ur exactly right, I have to admit. WEED is not a gateway drug because of something that happens when u smoke that joint and get high...its just people who try weed are the type who would do OTHER DRUGS...cuz they like drugs. Now what  im saying is that ppl who drink alcohol are more likely to try weed, and other drugs...and thats why alcohol is called a gateway drug. But its not the drug, but the person that makes a person wanna try hard drugs u knaamean? Its not that u do weed, and then u get tired of it and want harder and harder drugs since u tried weed and saw that ur totally at the command of drugs and addiction to let u ruin ur life. U know what Im saying? So go ahead and call weed a gateway drug, but the fact of the matter is weed does not directly influence ppl to want to try harder drugs...some ppl even term marijuana as an anti-addictive, which means smoking it helps u get over addictions in other areas of ur life (but not weed :-D)
Title: Re: the GOVERNMENT MAKES MARIJUANA a "GATEWAY DRUG"
Post by: rafsta on December 07, 2004, 12:46:56 PM
^^^thats what a gateway drug is, not directly linked but it a big bridge....

and yes i have used a bong like that before, filtered all the tar out of the weed, it has a tar catcher, the bulk of the thc is in the tar... more happy with a makeshift powerade billy.