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Lifestyle => Sports & Entertainment => Topic started by: A-Trak on November 19, 2004, 08:14:22 PM
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dayum, anyone see this? Artest and couple Pacer players went nuts, the Detroit crowd kept throwing shit on them after a fright broke out between Ben Wallence and Artest.
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yeah someone just told me about this, but I'm too lazy to turn on the TV too see highlights.
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I just saw that on tv. LOL
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yeah someone just told me about this, but I'm too lazy to turn on the TV too see highlights.
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missed the game (really wanted to watch it)
and to make matters worse i didnt get to see the fight....(checks for sportscenter)
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Motown melee
Pacers get into ugly brawl with Detroit fans at end of win
Posted: Friday November 19, 2004 11:20PM; Updated: Friday November 19, 2004 11:53PM
AUBURN HILLS, Mich. (AP) -- Indiana's Ron Artest and Stephen Jackson charged into the stands and fought with fans in the final minute of their game against the Detroit Pistons on Friday night, and the brawl forced an early and ugly end to the Pacers' 97-82 win.
Officials stopped the game with 45.9 seconds remaining after pushing and shoving between the teams spilled into the stands and fans began throwing things at the players near the scorer's table.
"It's the ugliest thing I've seen as a coach or player," said Pistons coach Larry Brown, who was in the middle of the confrontation, trying to break it up.
After several minutes of players fighting with fans in the stands, the Pacers were pelted with beer, ice, and popcorn as they made their way to the locker room in one of the scariest brawls in an NBA game.
"I felt like I was fighting for my life out there," Pacers coach Rick Carlisle said. "I'm sorry the game had to end this way."
The Palace announcer said the game was being stopped and pleaded with fans not to throw things.
It all started when Detroit's Ben Wallace went in for a layup and was fouled hard by Artest from behind.
Wallace wheeled around and pushed Artest in the face. The benches emptied and punches were thrown.
As the players continued shoving each other near center court and coaches tried to restore order, Artest sprawled out on his back on the scorer's table, looking relaxed.
Just when it appeared tempers had died down, Artest was struck by a full cup thrown from the stands. He jumped up, and charged into the stands, throwing punches as he climbed over seats.
Fans were punching back, and Jackson and another teammate joined Artest in the melee.
Detroit's Rasheed Wallace and Indiana's David Harrison were also in or near the stands.
As the crowd roared, drinks and debris showered the court and the Pacers players covered their heads as they hustled through the runway leading to the locker room.
A man in a Pistons jersey approached Artest on the court with fists raised, shouting at him. Artest punched him in the face, knocking the man to the floor before leaving the court. Artest was pulled away, and the fan charged back. O'Neal stepped in and punched the man.
"The NBA is withholding comment until it can review the incident," NBA spokesman Tim Frank said.
Pistons spokesman Tom Wilson said he did not believe anyone would be arrested.
Players from both teams left without comment.
Police prevented reporters from crossing the loading dock to get to Indiana's locker room or the area where the Pacers' bus was located.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2004/basketball/nba/11/19/bc.bkn.pacers.pistons.ap/index.html
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hell yeah. o'neal laid that fat mexican out.
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VIDEO (http://sdcc13.ucsd.edu/~echau/temp/FansVsPacers.WMV)[/size]
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artest got fucked here. Duke tried to back away an stay calm from wallace, he dont need no more trouble an then wallace contiues trying to start shit an than fans get involved. Fucked up.. i could see artest seriously be suspended untill the all star break.
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^all star break,im sayin all 3 of em r gonna b suspended tha rest of tha season
will see tho
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provokin big niggaz like that, dumb ass ingorant drunkies thought "what, they cant do anything...u think they will run up n hit me?" man Oneal and Artest laid niggaz out. woowee.
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YO I NEED GIF IMAGES QUICK
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I saw that, that shit was ugly.
I think the NBA needs to send a message here. This was just way out of control and was bound to happen.
First off:
All fans throwing stuff should be arrested and charged with battery, disorderly conduct, etc.
Players:
Ben Wallace: 20 game suspension, no pay.
Jermaine O'Neal: 60 game suspension, no pay.
Ron Artest and Stephen Jackson: 2 year suspension, no pay.
That's how I'd handle it.
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I think they're actions were justified, i mean come on...he threw a fuckin cup at him...80, no 90% of you know that if someone threw something at you, you were not going to just let them hit you like that...you gotta retaliate, Jermaine Oneal on the other hand just went and beat the shit outta everyone that Ron Artests didnt stomp out (hella funny BTW)..Jermaine's and the rest of the Pacers actions are justified due to the fact that it was their teammate getting beating by the Detroit crowed, so they had to go out and defend him...Detroit really needs to look how they handle security and handle the way they dispense liquor at games (shut down beer sales after 4min. into 3rd quarter or something along those lines)...And Security, woo....did u see that fat black guy in the grey sweater, he was a security guard for the palace...he was the first guy questioned, and i think he might be the first guy charged since he was easily identified (Source: KCAL channel 9)...But Yea, Detroit Fans Fault, maybe suspensions for a couple of games (Now maybe Ron Artest can pursue his Rap Career after all ::) )
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The actions were justified...but either way, these fans are gonna make out with a NICE check out of this whole mess. Damn, buy a ticket to a Pistons game, collect the check after players lose their cool....
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Ron Artest : 2 year suspension, no pay.
??? are u serious?
Ben Wallace was the dumbfuck who started this whole mess in the first place.
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O'Neal knocked that fool the fuck out! But was that before or after he had that chair thrown at him? You gotta take that shit into account... if you just had a fucking chair thrown at you and you see this dude still fucking with your teammate, you ain't gotta sit their and ask questions... you gonna hitting people and then ask questions.
I think Artest, Jackson, O'Neal, and Wallace should all be suspended 1-5 games and review the tapes and start arresting fans who threw anything.
BTW... Artest went after the wrong person at the beginning. If you review the tape, it looks like it was the girl who threw the cup. Jim Gray from ESPN says that it was dude with the white hat, but I think it was the girl who threw the cup. If anyone should get paid off of this it should be the dude that Artest went after first, cuz I don't think it was him that threw the cup.
Peace 8)
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Why would Artest get two years?! All of his shit was provoked by either being socked, confronted ON THE COURT, or the receiving end of a flying object. I understand Stephen Jackson though
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Embarrased to be a Pacers and NBA fan.
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i bet u michael jordan jus shakin his head...lol... he knows how artest is 1st hand..nigga fucked jordan up in a couple pick up games..on jordan's last comeback...when his ribs got broken..who u think did it...ask michael finley...lol
artest finally took dennis rodman's and bill lambier(sp) bad boy spot... it was up 4 grabs him or rasheed...this solidified the badboy crown..
he will get the worse of the outcome of all of this on the cool...
if somebody threw sumthin 2 1 of them niggas up in them offices i wanna know they would react? stern betta recognize...
that was the 1st hitta quitta in the nba i have seen since.. larry " grandmama" johnson south dallas dropped alonzo mourning..he hit him and knocked alonzo and van gundy ass down...lolllllll
those fans gone learn.. u can call em all the shit u want... but why u wanna fuck up and throw some shit..u already got their attention by callin them out their name... but when u throw shit..thats jus like u hittin them..and crazy as ron ass is.. u deserve to get fucked up......
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if i was a player & fans started throwin shit at me, i would knock them the fuck out too, i think its justified
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VIDEO (http://sdcc13.ucsd.edu/~echau/temp/FansVsPacers.WMV)[/size]
props for the vid i was lookin for it
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damn shit was crazy, 8 minute video-version => http://www.spursreport.com/FIGHT.wmv
EDIT: LINK DOWN
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I saw that, that shit was ugly.
I think the NBA needs to send a message here. This was just way out of control and was bound to happen.
First off:
All fans throwing stuff should be arrested and charged with battery, disorderly conduct, etc.
Players:
Ben Wallace: 20 game suspension, no pay.
Jermaine O'Neal: 60 game suspension, no pay.
Ron Artest and Stephen Jackson: 2 year suspension, no pay.
That's how I'd handle it.
lol 2 year suspension, get the fuck outta here.
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they started the video (on espn) where artest jumps into the stands and slams the guys head into the armrest (well thats what i thought he did dont know for sure).
Then they show the fat kid in the white pistons jersey. Artest slugs him hard. then o neil runs up to the same kid and hits him in the same place. I thought that was kinda funny that the kid got slugged by two huge guys.
I think whoever started the whole thing should get the most (suspension wise) and the other players who were involved should get something less, but still something.
Artest isnt a new player. He's known for being a loose cannon. Why on earth would you start something with him?
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damn shit was crazy, 8 minute video-version => http://www.spursreport.com/FIGHT.wmv
aint workin homie
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can anyone post up a link to a full higher quality video of this (that 8 minute one doesnt work)
it would be greatly appreciated.
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Other link, hope this one still works => http://students.washington.edu/tkz/Fight.avi
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HUGE THANKS FOR THE LINK!
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LMAO HOLY SHIT this is GANKSTUH! damn i wish i was there so i could help the pacers and throw a couple punches at the pistons and their fans, artest and o'neal are the mans! i give them gankstuh props!
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i probably would have done the same thing that artest did (if i was his size of course)
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artest didn't do shit at first because he was scared of ben wallace. you can tell how scared he was because he was acting a little too disinterested by laying down. he was scared.
then that dumb fuckin fan threw that shit at him....people that do shit like that at sports games should be banned for life. i mean, seriously, imagine if someone came into your office and started yelling at you and throwing shit at you. fuck that. fuckin retards.
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I saw that, that shit was ugly.
I think the NBA needs to send a message here. This was just way out of control and was bound to happen.
First off:
All fans throwing stuff should be arrested and charged with battery, disorderly conduct, etc.
Players:
Ben Wallace: 20 game suspension, no pay, $100,000 fine
Jermaine O'Neal: 60 game suspension, no pay, $250,000 fine
Ron Artest and Stephen Jackson: 2 year suspension, no pay, $500,000 fine
That's how I'd handle it.
lol 2 year suspension, get the fuck outta here.
I stand by what I said, in fact they should be fined in the six figure range as well. There is no excuse for what Artest and Stephen Jackson did. First off, the guy that Artest pummeled was not likely the guy who threw the drink in the first place. Stephen Jackson had no business being there in the first place.
The NBA needs to step up and handle business or else the inmates running the asylmum mentality that exists in professional sports nowadays will only get worse.
Don't get me wrong, the fans need to be handled to, battery charges, inciting a riot, disorderly conduct, whatever they can come up with, all those motherfuckers who threw drinks as the players were leaving through the tunnel should be arrested.
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(http://www.vg.no/bilder/bildarkiv/1100943440.68645.jpg)
LMAO, Basketball never been this entertaining before.. thanks for the video links. ;D
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Ben Wallace would fucking handle Artest in a 1on1 Fight :)
I hope Pacers get Big Ba(e)n :D
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Ben Wallace would fucking handle Artest in a 1on1 Fight :)
I hope Pacers get Big Ba(e)n :D
artest would fuck up big ben, artest isnt all there in the head. You dont fuck with people like that lol.
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LETS GO PACERS! ;D
and artest looked pissed man..looked like he was about snap
poor pacers :-\
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artest would leave big ben crying like a little girl
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Artest, Oniel, jackson, and ben wallace are suspended indefinetly.
Does that mean there out for the rest of the season? if so, pacers are doomed.
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wtf rest of the season? the season just started. and lol @ at the guy that said suspend them for 2 years.
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Artest, Oniel, jackson, and ben wallace are suspended indefinetly.
Does that mean there out for the rest of the season? if so, pacers are doomed.
no thats just means there suspended untill the NBA can come out with a total number of games to suspend. Like some guys if they are going to get a suspension can play untill the NBA hands out the suspension. In this case they cant play at all.
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Soccer surrenders.
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This would not have happened if they had let Artest have time off to promote that dope ass rap album lol
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LMAO, check the boxscore for todays game http://www.nba.com/games/20041120/ORLIND/boxscore.html only 6 players available, goddamn :)
Pacers
REBOUNDS
PLAYER POS MIN FGM-A 3GM-A FTM-A OFF DEF TOT AST PF ST TO BS PTS
EDDIE GILL G 48 3-10 1-1 1-2 0 1 1 3 3 3 1 0 8
FRED JONES G 48 12-25 3-9 4-4 1 4 5 2 5 2 3 2 31
JAMES JONES F 43 3-5 1-3 5-5 0 12 12 0 5 3 2 0 12
AUSTIN CROSHERE F 42 3-12 0-3 5-5 0 5 5 3 1 0 2 1 11
DAVID HARRISON C 44 8-15 0-0 3-4 4 4 8 0 3 2 5 3 19
John Edwards 15 1-3 0-0 0-0 1 0 1 0 3 0 1 0 2
Ron Artest DNP
Scot Pollard DNP
Jermaine O'Neal DNP
Stephen Jackson DNP
Jonathan Bender DNP
Jamaal Tinsley DNP
TOTAL 240 30-70 5-16 18-20 6 26 32 8 20 10 14 6 83
42.9% 31.3% 90.0% Team Rebs: 8 Total TO: 15
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Full version of the fight in dvd quality, i cant get enough of this, so crazy ;D http://2k3.traidor.com/fark/pacers_pistons_brawl.zip
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Sure, Ben Wallace overreacted, but the one who should be punished the most is that fan, 'cause he triggered off the chaos.
First it was the Vibe Awards beatdown, now this...lol, what's next? Man, I love the entertainment industry ;D
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Sure, Ben Wallace overreacted, but the one who should be punished the most is that fan, 'cause he triggered off the chaos.
First it was the Vibe Awards beatdown, now this...lol, what's next? Man, I love the entertainment industry ;D
actually it was ben wallace that trigged off the whole thing. If he didnt act like a bitch when he got fouled, not even a hard foul at that, this never would happened
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WTF? There was like 45 seconds left in a decided game and Artest tackled the shit out of him from behind for no reason...Artest is easily one of the dumbest people in the NBA...And damn, Stephen Jackson is even dumber. :-\
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Ben Wallace was dumb for retaliating like that. The fans are retarded fuckers for acting like they have something to do with the game.... those fuckers are there to watch the game, not turn it into the XBA... seriously, I think the WWF or WWE whatever it's called these days is considering a merger with the NBA after that. Anyways, fuckin fans are retarded... stupid white boys got what they had coming to them... acting hard just because they're behind a rail... then when they see some 7 foot tall black guy comin' at them, they shit their pants worse than Trauma being confronted by a big Arab named Abdul...
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WTF? There was like 45 seconds left in a decided game and Artest tackled the shit out of him from behind for no reason...Artest is easily one of the dumbest people in the NBA...And damn, Stephen Jackson is even dumber. :-\
It wasnt even a flagrant foul. Plus, no matter what the lead ur opponent shouldnt get easy baskets
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i never saw so many tall people in one place
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WTF? There was like 45 seconds left in a decided game and Artest tackled the shit out of him from behind for no reason...Artest is easily one of the dumbest people in the NBA...And damn, Stephen Jackson is even dumber. :-\
tackled the shit outta him, it wasnt even a hard foul
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LoL@everyone who's not a Pacers-Fan and defends Artest's actions
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truly some of the crazyest sports footage I have ever seen right there.
Absolutely stupid as fuck though. Instead of maybe just swearing at the fans or gesturing, the dude jumped over, what the fuck did he think was gunna happen.
Did anybody spot the big dude in the cream top hitting one of the players, that was the shit. A little dude in a blue top throws some weak punches to the back of the players head and the player turns around and throws some back, then this biggggg dude comes over and smacks the player about like he was his bitch.
Fucking awesome though.
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I used to be a Ron fan. He completely fucked over our whole team this season. He didn't even get the right fucking fan. I already was pissed off at him for his rap album/rnb album bullshit asking for time off, now he's made himself 100% untradeable, and proven to be a nutcase. Hes not all there. Awful hard to support a man like that.
And fuck Ben Wallace. It wasn't even that hard of a foul. It's called making someone earn thier shot. He was just pissed at the fact they were getting beat down, and probably some anger still over Ron getting the DPOY last year over him.
The fans of Detroit are fucktards.
But fuck Ron for being a nutcase and completely fucking over our team this season.
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What Ben Wallace did was something that happens all the time in the NBA...Ron Artest took it to another level...Unbelievable.
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Ben wallace shouldnt have made such a big deal out of getting fouled, but artest shoudnt have made a huge deal out of a plastic cup, I mean its not like you need to defend yourself when you get a plastic cup thrown at you, its not a threat or anything but still he goes and tackles that poor muthafucka in the stands, and apparently it wasn't even the guy who threw it, I think he deserves what he gets..but I think wallace should get more than six games
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Oh and did reggie miller really get suspended for 1 game???