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Lifestyle => Train of Thought => Topic started by: Don Rizzle on November 26, 2004, 01:03:42 PM
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A number of times i've heard germans talk how they have been hard done by, but they started 2 world wars within living memory of for some people and destroyed many of europes cities and people as well as in the rest of the world. i say blame you grand parents and quit whining once people who lived through those wars have gone maybe you can really start up fresh until then i'd say your in debt to everyone. it was greed that started the the wars in the last century
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In other words you think it's right and cool that Germany has to pay by far the most in the EU although not having the most and also not having too much to say, since it's like inofficialreperations 60 years after a war, or what?
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A number of times i've heard germans talk how they have been hard done by, but they started 2 world wars
they being......the ones living in germany now? the majority of todays german population, i would actually say over 90% (probably underestimating this big time) ,had nothing to do with WW2, so i dont see why they should be punished.
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A number of times i've heard germans talk how they have been hard done by, but they started 2 world wars within living memory of for some people and destroyed many of europes cities and people as well as in the rest of the world. i say blame you grand parents and quit whining once people who lived through those wars have gone maybe you can really start up fresh until then i'd say your in debt to everyone. it was greed that started the the wars in the last century
You have officially reached an all time low. I know quite a lot of Germans and none of them sypmathize Hitler. It is possible that some of their grandparents have done bad things 60 years ago, but what do they have to do with that?
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this is just as rediculous as repirations
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A number of times i've heard germans talk how they have been hard done by, but they started 2 world wars within living memory of for some people and destroyed many of europes cities and people as well as in the rest of the world. i say blame you grand parents and quit whining once people who lived through those wars have gone maybe you can really start up fresh until then i'd say your in debt to everyone. it was greed that started the the wars in the last century
I call Bullshit. The past is the past.
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anyone thaught of the consequences they messed up the world order now every country has a different view and no one can decide on anything which has lead to many wars, old colonies which were made independent have seen the gap between what they earn and what 1st world get increase exponentially financially they were better off in empires. forcing the jews out of europe has caused kaos in the middle east after the messed up shit which has gone on there. america has dominated the new world order after straying away from its isolationist stance. i could easily go on
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you should have made this post 40 years ago :)
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What a crackhead way to look at things. You're a bigot
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That's the problem with people, they are unable to forgive and forget. Unnecessary drama in life.
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For your information, apart from being unbelievably unreasonable, the Germans didn't exactly start WW1.
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That's the problem with people, they are unable to forgive and forget. Unnecessary drama in life.
You should forgive, but never forget. Think about all the people that lost their lives in WW II, just don't blame the modern Germans for it. And besides that, starting about WW I is just bullshit since 99% of the people who were there and participated in that war, are dead now. You'd have to be over 100 years of age now to remember the things you did when you were 20 during WW I.
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That's the problem with people, they are unable to forgive and forget. Unnecessary drama in life.
You should forgive, but never forget. Think about all the people that lost their lives in WW II, just don't blame the modern Germans for it. And besides that, starting about WW I is just bullshit since 99% of the people who were there and participated in that war, are dead now. You'd have to be over 100 years of age now to remember the things you did when you were 20 during WW I.
cosign.. u can never forget
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Yeah, you shouldn't forget *ANYTHING, actually. Bad, or good, you should remember whatever you can, memories are knowledge, knowledge is never bad.
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Yeah, you shouldn't forget *ANYTHING, actually. Bad, or good, you should remember whatever you can, memories are knowledge, knowledge is never bad.
I think the Germans have learned from what happened, so that we can be almost sure this won't happen again in the near future. Once people forget about this, they might fall back into the same old bullshit again.
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Yeah, you shouldn't forget *ANYTHING, actually. Bad, or good, you should remember whatever you can, memories are knowledge, knowledge is never bad.
I think the Germans have learned from what happened, so that we can be almost sure this won't happen again in the near future. Once people forget about this, they might fall back into the same old bullshit again.
this will happen again anyways. history repeats itself. nowadays we again have a leader talking about crusades, which were like a million years ago..
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Yeah, you shouldn't forget *ANYTHING, actually. Bad, or good, you should remember whatever you can, memories are knowledge, knowledge is never bad.
I think the Germans have learned from what happened, so that we can be almost sure this won't happen again in the near future. Once people forget about this, they might fall back into the same old bullshit again.
this will happen again anyways. history repeats itself. nowadays we again have a leader talking about crusades, which were like a million years ago..
Who is your leader going on crusades? Yall oughta overthrow his ass, that's horrible. Fuckin' Germans.
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you all cussed me out but no one has actually discussed my points, of how much more stable the world would be with empires, we would actually be more effiecient too as countries in empires working together to the same goal you can cut a hell of alot of beurocarcy out of goverment, and should also enable higher specialisation thus faster progress with the empire, and also would bring us much closer to free trade. but now we have hundreds of countries and 3 different empires fucking over everyone else ie the american, russian and chineese empires. decision making and negotiation would be much easier when there are a maxium of 5 oppinions and providing there was responsible governence we could do away with the ills of the world like hunger, treatable deseases in the 3rd world and pollution providing a better future for generation to come
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Shut up, your panties are twisted because coloured folks no longer sing God Save the Queen.
Youre actually advocating return of empires, then you rail against Bush in another post. Limosine liberals and bandwagon posters gets no luuuv.
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yes but with out thier bad sides as we could have easily deteriated as have human rights abuses in most developed countries, when your all working together you can become more prosperous. Its not necessarily a bad thing to be in an empire
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Youre actually advocating return of empires, then you rail against Bush in another post. Limosine liberals and bandwagon posters gets no luuuv.
i'm advocating the empire system would have been so much better i'm not suggesting a return of them because that would be world 3 and would probably dam near destroy the world, but i believe increased responsible governence could have flourished had we began to work together and utilised advances in the last century together. i don't believe bush has been acting responsibly in many areas so i shall state my opinion on that. bear in mind read up on history alot in my spare time and have read a few books on empires i just believe the whole system could have been so much better for the world, and the germans ruined that hence my creating this thread.
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yes but with out thier bad sides as we could have easily deteriated as have human rights abuses in most developed countries, when your all working together you can become more prosperous. Its not necessarily a bad thing to be in an empire
You have a very simplistic view of things, however I admire your optimism. Even though youre totally off.
An empire system is the current system but more overtly inforced. There is no difference between an Empire and Americas current position.
Having an empire will only strengthen Western grip on the worlds resources, it will drown out nationalism , and lead to a global order that we are already on the road to. In essence, your proposing an answer to a problem, however that answer is complimentary to the problem.
Name one empire where more than 10% of the occupied countries benefitted from it. And dont bring up Romans. Im talkin last couple hundred years.
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Yeah, you shouldn't forget *ANYTHING, actually. Bad, or good, you should remember whatever you can, memories are knowledge, knowledge is never bad.
I think the Germans have learned from what happened, so that we can be almost sure this won't happen again in the near future. Once people forget about this, they might fall back into the same old bullshit again.
this will happen again anyways. history repeats itself. nowadays we again have a leader talking about crusades, which were like a million years ago..
Who is your leader going on crusades? Yall oughta overthrow his ass, that's horrible. Fuckin' Germans.
I talked about George Walker Bush, like you probably knew. Btw, you re-elected that dude.
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Haha Germans whipped that ass.
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yes but with out thier bad sides as we could have easily deteriated as have human rights abuses in most developed countries, when your all working together you can become more prosperous. Its not necessarily a bad thing to be in an empire
You have a very simplistic view of things, however I admire your optimism. Even though youre totally off.
An empire system is the current system but more overtly inforced. There is no difference between an Empire and Americas current position.
Having an empire will only strengthen Western grip on the worlds resources, it will drown out nationalism , and lead to a global order that we are already on the road to. In essence, your proposing an answer to a problem, however that answer is complimentary to the problem.
Name one empire where more than 10% of the occupied countries benefitted from it. And dont bring up Romans. Im talkin last couple hundred years.
We industrialised india and look at the sucess of our old colonies america, canada, astralia, new zeeland etc. and look at those who weren't would be better off under british rule, in particular africa since european powers gave up their holds on the continent there have been many wars and corruption is rife
take zimbabwe as an example
Upon independence in 1980, Zimbabwe had a balance of payments surplus, a low foreign debt and regularly exported surplus food. After two decades of Robert Mugabe's rule, the economy is in rapid decline, a land crisis has been created, political instability increases daily and much of the population is starving. A famine looms.
i will give mugarbe credit he did start off by creating the best educational system in africa until he feared their knowledge.
another exaple would be the situation in sudan
india and pakistan nearly going to nuclear war
troubles the jews have caused since britain left palestine
the british colonial regime may not have been liked but in many cases it was probably better than the alternatives, to create a peaceful and prosperous world. however it was doomed due to the change in the way people viewed empires and that it was too costly for us to maintain, we tried our best to leave governments which would be good for the country and stability of of the world and continued favourable trading with them until entry to the EU where obligations to europe meant we couldn't coninue