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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: Machiavelli on November 27, 2004, 02:39:08 PM
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Here is mine
1. The Don Killiliminaiti: The 7 day Theory - 10/10
2. All Eyez on Me - 9.5/10
3. Me Against the World 9.5/10
4. Thug Life Volume 1 - 7/10
5. Strictly for my N.I.G.G.A.Z. - 6/10
6. 2pacalypse Now - 5.5/10
Posthumous albums
1. R U Still Down(Remember Me?) - 7/10
2. Until the End of Time - 5/10
3. Still I Rise - 5/10
4. Better Dayz - 5/10
5. Loyal 2 the Game - 4.5/10
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1-MATW
2-7 day
3-AEOM
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4-TLV1
5-S4MN
6-2PALYP
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7-AYSD(RM)
8-SIR
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9-11 - Rest
4-6 are pretty much on the same level though. Twistable.
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:o..you gave Strictly for my N.I.G.G.A.Z a 4?????....ooooooouuuuuuuuuccccccccchhhhhhhh
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:o..you gave Strictly for my N.I.G.G.A.Z a 4?????....ooooooouuuuuuuuuccccccccchhhhhhhh
calm down.
what are you talking about?
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:o..you gave Strictly for my N.I.G.G.A.Z a 4?????....ooooooouuuuuuuuuccccccccchhhhhhhh
I gave it a 6 ???
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1. The Don Kiluminati (The 7 Day Theory)...8.5 /10
2. All Eyez On Me...8.5/10
3. Me Against The World...8/10
4. Thug Life Volume 1...7.5/10
5. Strictly For My N.I.G.G.A.Z....7/10
6. 2pacalypse Now...6/10
None of his solo posthumous albums are even good.
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AEOM
MATW
Makaveli
R U Still Down
SFMN
2Pacolypse
Still I Rise
Thug Life
UTEOT
Better Dayz
LTTG
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lol every one is placing loyal to the game and yall juss heared 5 trax off the 16
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^^^^ you do know the entire album has been leaked right? lol
Don Killuminati: 7 Day Theory 10/10
Me Against The World 9/10
Still I Rise 9/10
All Eyez On Me 9/10
Loyal To The Game 8/10
Until The End Of Time 7.5/10
Better Dayz 7.5/10
Strictly 4 My N.I.G.G.A.Z. 7/10
Thug Life Vol. 1 7/10
R U Still Down? 6/10
2pacalapyse Now 4/10
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I'm actually one of the few that likes 2Pacalypse Now the most.
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me againt the world 9.5
alleyez on me 9.5
makaveli 7day theory 9
thug life 8.5
better days8
still i rise 8
until the end of time 7.5
2pacalypse Now 7
Strictly for my N.I.G.G.A.Z 7
rustill down 6.5
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1. Makaveli - Don Killuminati 7 Day Theory, 6/5....greatest album ever recorded
2. tie: Me Against The World and All Eyez On Me, both 5/5
3. 3-way tie: 2Pacalpyse Now, Strictly, R U Still Down, all 4.5/5 (all personal classics to me)
4. 3-way tie: Thug Life Vol.1, Resurrection sndtrk, & Still I Rise, 4/5
5. Better Dayz - 3/5
6. Until The End of Time - 2/5 (if the album was released OG, it would be a 4/5)
an amazing discography to say the least.....Pac got more classic songs than anyone else in hip hop by a landslide.
2Pacalypse Now is soooooooo underrated its not even funny. One of the most powerful and social/political albums ever made, and an absolute essential in Pac's catalog.
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1. The Don Killiliminaiti: The 7 day Theory - 5/5
2. Me Against The World - 5/5
3. All Eyez On Me 5/5
4. Thug Life Volume 1 - 4.5/5
4. Strictly for my N.I.G.G.A.Z. - 4.5/5
6. 2pacalypse Now - 4/5
Posthumous albums
1. Still I Rise - 4.5/5
2. Better Dayz - 4.5/5
3. R U Still Down(Remember Me?) - 4/5
4. Until the End of Time - 4/5
5. Nu Mixx Klassicz 2.5/5
6. Loyal 2 the Game - 1.5/5
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better days is alrihgt.. loyal to the game is a joke
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1. Makaveli - Don Killuminati 7 Day Theory, 6/5....greatest album ever recorded
2. tie: Me Against The World and All Eyez On Me, both 5/5
3. 3-way tie: 2Pacalpyse Now, Strictly, R U Still Down, all 4.5/5 (all personal classics to me)
4. 3-way tie: Thug Life Vol.1, Resurrection sndtrk, & Still I Rise, 4/5
5. Better Dayz - 3/5
6. Until The End of Time - 2/5 (if the album was released OG, it would be a 4/5)
an amazing discography to say the least.....Pac got more classic songs than anyone else in hip hop by a landslide.
2Pacalypse Now is soooooooo underrated its not even funny. One of the most powerful and social/political albums ever made, and an absolute essential in Pac's catalog.
The problem with 2pacalypse Now and Strictly 4 My N.I.G.G.A.Z is the production. I would of rated those albums higher if the production was better. Thug Life was pacs first album that had decent production.
But yes I agree with you to the extent that 2pac has more classic songs then anyone else in hip-hop by a landside. Thats what makes him the best rapper because of his Discography. Rakim or KRS-One maybe are better lyricists but pac was the most consistent as in songs and albums.
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^^^ i could probably agree with that....i dont normally agree when people say 2pac is the best rapper and whatever....but as far as consistency goes i could definitely agree.....but he definitely is nowhere near the best lyricist or anything like that
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1. Makaveli - Don Killuminati 7 Day Theory, 6/5....greatest album ever recorded
2. tie: Me Against The World and All Eyez On Me, both 5/5
3. 3-way tie: 2Pacalpyse Now, Strictly, R U Still Down, all 4.5/5 (all personal classics to me)
4. 3-way tie: Thug Life Vol.1, Resurrection sndtrk, & Still I Rise, 4/5
5. Better Dayz - 3/5
6. Until The End of Time - 2/5 (if the album was released OG, it would be a 4/5)
an amazing discography to say the least.....Pac got more classic songs than anyone else in hip hop by a landslide.
2Pacalypse Now is soooooooo underrated its not even funny. One of the most powerful and social/political albums ever made, and an absolute essential in Pac's catalog.
Holy shit, r u kidding, or do you really like Pac that much. Calling 7 Day Theory the greatest album ever recorded, and giving nine of his albums 4/5 or above seems pretty ridiculous to me. I respect your opinion, but I personally think giving Pac even one classic album would prehaps be stretching it a bit.
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THUG LIFE VOL 1 is not a 2PAC album it's his Group Album, The Group name is THUG LIFE - The members are 2PAC, Mopreme, Macadoish, Big Syke and Rated R, The Album Title is called THUG LIFE VOL 1. Yall should know this shit.
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THUG LIFE VOL 1 is not a 2PAC album it's his Group Album, The Group name is THUG LIFE - The members are 2PAC, Mopreme, Macadoish, Big Syke and Rated R, The Album Title is called THUG LIFE VOL 1. Yall should know this shit.
(http://forumspam.articblue.nl/user_related/obvious/images/0709.jpg)
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THUG LIFE VOL 1 is not a 2PAC album it's his Group Album, The Group name is THUG LIFE - The members are 2PAC, Mopreme, Macadoish, Big Syke and Rated R, The Album Title is called THUG LIFE VOL 1. Yall should know this shit.
(http://forumspam.articblue.nl/user_related/obvious/images/0709.jpg)
Listen here smart ass, that was person who said VOL 1 is PAC first Lp. So would u please give me my nuts bacc.
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Thug Life and Still I Rise are group albums. I still count them.
1. The Don Killiliminaiti: The 7 day Theory - 5/5
2. Me Against the World 5/5
3. All Eyez on Me - 4.5/5
4. Strictly for my N.I.G.G.A.Z. - 4/5
5. Still I Rise - 4/5
6. Thug Life Volume 1 - 3.5/5
7. 2pacalypse Now - 3.5/5
8. Until the End of Time - 3.5/10
9. R U Still Down(Remember Me?) - 3.5/10
10. Better Dayz - 3/5
11. Loyal 2 the Game - (unknown)
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Holy shit, r u kidding, or do you really like Pac that much. Calling 7 Day Theory the greatest album ever recorded, and giving nine of his albums 4/5 or above seems pretty ridiculous to me. I respect your opinion, but I personally think giving Pac even one classic album would prehaps be stretching it a bit.
Co-sign...expect for the part about respecting his opinion.
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Holy shit, r u kidding, or do you really like Pac that much. Calling 7 Day Theory the greatest album ever recorded, and giving nine of his albums 4/5 or above seems pretty ridiculous to me. I respect your opinion, but I personally think giving Pac even one classic album would prehaps be stretching it a bit.
Co-sign...expect for the part about respecting his opinion.
Pac not even one classic album? wtf, dudes? knuckles what music do you listen to?
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1. All Eyez On Me (5/5)
2. Me Against The World (5/5)
3. The 7 Day Theory (5/5)
4. Strictly For My Niggaz (4/5)
5. 2Pacolypse Now (3.5/5)
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Holy shit, r u kidding, or do you really like Pac that much. Calling 7 Day Theory the greatest album ever recorded, and giving nine of his albums 4/5 or above seems pretty ridiculous to me. I respect your opinion, but I personally think giving Pac even one classic album would prehaps be stretching it a bit.
Co-sign...expect for the part about respecting his opinion.
Pac not even one classic album? wtf, dudes? knuckles what music do you listen to?
peep his posts.. him, trauma, shallow, and smartass get the most recpect from me for knowing the most about music
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Pac not even one classic album? wtf, dudes? knuckles what music do you listen to?
"giving Pac even one classic album would prehaps be stretching it a bit"
^^^ So true
If you peeped my "An Accurate List Of Classic Albums" (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=53275.0) thread a while back I put All Eyez On Me on there but it was borderline.
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I'm actually one of the few that likes 2Pacalypse Now the most.
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1. Makaveli - Don Killuminati 7 Day Theory, 6/5....greatest album ever recorded
2. tie: Me Against The World and All Eyez On Me, both 5/5
3. 3-way tie: 2Pacalpyse Now, Strictly, R U Still Down, all 4.5/5 (all personal classics to me)
4. 3-way tie: Thug Life Vol.1, Resurrection sndtrk, & Still I Rise, 4/5
5. Better Dayz - 3/5
6. Until The End of Time - 2/5 (if the album was released OG, it would be a 4/5)
an amazing discography to say the least.....Pac got more classic songs than anyone else in hip hop by a landslide.
2Pacalypse Now is soooooooo underrated its not even funny. One of the most powerful and social/political albums ever made, and an absolute essential in Pac's catalog.
Holy shit, r u kidding, or do you really like Pac that much. Calling 7 Day Theory the greatest album ever recorded, and giving nine of his albums 4/5 or above seems pretty ridiculous to me. I respect your opinion, but I personally think giving Pac even one classic album would prehaps be stretching it a bit.
Well, he is my fav artist ever, so perhaps some of my ratings are a bit biased.....but for the most part, I stand by them. To say Pac doesnt even have one classic album though is pretty ridiculous, when he has THREE by a general consensus. And yes, I do think 7 Day Theory is the greatest hip hop album of all time. Im not going to explain or break it down in this thread, but if you wish to know why, go peep the review I wrote in the review forum.
Fan or not, he easily has one of the best catalogs in hip hop history and the body of classic songs he wrote is simply without equal.
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Holy shit, r u kidding, or do you really like Pac that much. Calling 7 Day Theory the greatest album ever recorded, and giving nine of his albums 4/5 or above seems pretty ridiculous to me. I respect your opinion, but I personally think giving Pac even one classic album would prehaps be stretching it a bit.
Co-sign...expect for the part about respecting his opinion.
Well, if you dont respect my opinion, you can well.....call 1-800 Go-Fuck-Yourself. Think just because you dont respect my opinion that im gonna change it just for you or something. Fuck outta here, homo.
:psych:
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Here is mine
1. The Don Killiliminaiti: The 7 day Theory - 10/10
2. All Eyez on Me - 10/10
3. Me Against the World 9/10
4. Thug Life Volume 1 - 7.5/10
5. Strictly for my N.I.G.G.A.Z. - 6/10
6. 2pacalypse Now - 6/10
Posthumous albums
1. R U Still Down(Remember Me?) - 8.5/10
2. Until the End of Time - 8/10
3. Better Dayz - 7/10
4. Still I Rise - 5/10
5. Loyal 2 the Game - Copping it when it drops
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The Don Killiliminaiti: The 7 day Theory - 5/5
All Eyez on Me - 4.25/5
Me Against the World 4/5
Strictly for my N.I.G.G.A.Z. - 3.25/5
2pacalypse Now - 3/5
R U Still Down(Remember Me?) - 4/5
Until the End of Time - 4/5
Better Dayz - 3.25/5
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The Don Killiliminaiti: The 7 day Theory - 5/5
All Eyez on Me - 4.25/5
Me Against the World 4/5
Strictly for my N.I.G.G.A.Z. - 3.25/5
2pacalypse Now - 3/5
R U Still Down(Remember Me?) - 4/5
Until the End of Time - 4/5
Better Dayz - 3.25/5
I can dig that
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We can all agree that pac gets better with each album.
Imagine what his next album would be like if didnt die :o
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1. Makaveli - Don Killuminati 7 Day Theory, 6/5....greatest album ever recorded
2. tie: Me Against The World and All Eyez On Me, both 5/5
3. 3-way tie: 2Pacalpyse Now, Strictly, R U Still Down, all 4.5/5 (all personal classics to me)
4. 3-way tie: Thug Life Vol.1, Resurrection sndtrk, & Still I Rise, 4/5
5. Better Dayz - 3/5
6. Until The End of Time - 2/5 (if the album was released OG, it would be a 4/5)
an amazing discography to say the least.....Pac got more classic songs than anyone else in hip hop by a landslide.
2Pacalypse Now is soooooooo underrated its not even funny. One of the most powerful and social/political albums ever made, and an absolute essential in Pac's catalog.
Holy shit, r u kidding, or do you really like Pac that much. Calling 7 Day Theory the greatest album ever recorded, and giving nine of his albums 4/5 or above seems pretty ridiculous to me. I respect your opinion, but I personally think giving Pac even one classic album would prehaps be stretching it a bit.
Well, he is my fav artist ever, so perhaps some of my ratings are a bit biased.....but for the most part, I stand by them. To say Pac doesnt even have one classic album though is pretty ridiculous, when he has THREE by a general consensus. And yes, I do think 7 Day Theory is the greatest hip hop album of all time. Im not going to explain or break it down in this thread, but if you wish to know why, go peep the review I wrote in the review forum.
Fan or not, he easily has one of the best catalogs in hip hop history and the body of classic songs he wrote is simply without equal.
I wouldn't say three by general concensus. AEOM is definitely not, 7 Day Theory is closer, and MATW closest, but I wouldn't consider any of them classics. I read your review of 7 Day Theory a couple of months back, and although there is no doubt in my mind that you consider it a classic, and I can see why you do, I have never really listened to the album and felt the same way about it that you do.
I just think that if you listen to any of the late eighties and mid nineties NY, early 90s west coast, or more recent indie albums that are considered classics, they all have that something extra about them that elevates them beyond Pac's considered classics.
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Makaveli: The 7 Day Theory (Because he had something to say)
Me Against The World (Because he had something to say)
Then. . . . . Thug Life, All Eyez On Me, 2pacalypse Now, Strictly for my N.I.G.G.A.Z.,
I don't call the rest Tupac albums, I call them garbage bootlegs.
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I wouldn't say three by general concensus. AEOM is definitely not, 7 Day Theory is closer, and MATW closest, but I wouldn't consider any of them classics. I read your review of 7 Day Theory a couple of months back, and although there is no doubt in my mind that you consider it a classic, and I can see why you do, I have never really listened to the album and felt the same way about it that you do.
I just think that if you listen to any of the late eighties and mid nineties NY, early 90s west coast, or more recent indie albums that are considered classics, they all have that something extra about them that elevates them beyond Pac's considered classics.
All Eyez on Me is definitely a classic. It changed the rap game becoming the first double disk album and become the highest selling album.
Classic means it was an influential album back in the day.
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^ all eyes on me was the 1st double disk.. r u sure..???
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on all pacs album he smashed it, GOAT.....IMO
seeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeen seeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeen
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^ all eyes on me was the 1st double disk.. r u sure..???
In Hip-Hop.
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1. Makaveli - Don Killuminati 7 Day Theory, 6/5....greatest album ever recorded
2. tie: Me Against The World and All Eyez On Me, both 5/5
3. 3-way tie: 2Pacalpyse Now, Strictly, R U Still Down, all 4.5/5 (all personal classics to me)
4. 3-way tie: Thug Life Vol.1, Resurrection sndtrk, & Still I Rise, 4/5
5. Better Dayz - 3/5
6. Until The End of Time - 2/5 (if the album was released OG, it would be a 4/5)
an amazing discography to say the least.....Pac got more classic songs than anyone else in hip hop by a landslide.
2Pacalypse Now is soooooooo underrated its not even funny. One of the most powerful and social/political albums ever made, and an absolute essential in Pac's catalog.
Holy shit, r u kidding, or do you really like Pac that much. Calling 7 Day Theory the greatest album ever recorded, and giving nine of his albums 4/5 or above seems pretty ridiculous to me. I respect your opinion, but I personally think giving Pac even one classic album would prehaps be stretching it a bit.
Well, he is my fav artist ever, so perhaps some of my ratings are a bit biased.....but for the most part, I stand by them. To say Pac doesnt even have one classic album though is pretty ridiculous, when he has THREE by a general consensus. And yes, I do think 7 Day Theory is the greatest hip hop album of all time. Im not going to explain or break it down in this thread, but if you wish to know why, go peep the review I wrote in the review forum.
Fan or not, he easily has one of the best catalogs in hip hop history and the body of classic songs he wrote is simply without equal.
I wouldn't say three by general concensus. AEOM is definitely not, 7 Day Theory is closer, and MATW closest, but I wouldn't consider any of them classics. I read your review of 7 Day Theory a couple of months back, and although there is no doubt in my mind that you consider it a classic, and I can see why you do, I have never really listened to the album and felt the same way about it that you do.
I just think that if you listen to any of the late eighties and mid nineties NY, early 90s west coast, or more recent indie albums that are considered classics, they all have that something extra about them that elevates them beyond Pac's considered classics.
I dont agree, but whatever.....
oh, and those 3 Pac albums are considered classic by an overwhelming consensus. Its not even really up for debate. When people list the best hip hop albums all the time, All Eyez on Me is one of the most common/popular albums listed, and Me Against The World and 7 Day Theory arent too far behind.
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I wouldn't say three by general concensus. AEOM is definitely not, 7 Day Theory is closer, and MATW closest, but I wouldn't consider any of them classics. I read your review of 7 Day Theory a couple of months back, and although there is no doubt in my mind that you consider it a classic, and I can see why you do, I have never really listened to the album and felt the same way about it that you do.
I just think that if you listen to any of the late eighties and mid nineties NY, early 90s west coast, or more recent indie albums that are considered classics, they all have that something extra about them that elevates them beyond Pac's considered classics.
All Eyez on Me is definitely a classic. It changed the rap game becoming the first double disk album and become the highest selling album.
Classic means it was an influential album back in the day.
Basically.
AEOM isnt my fav album or anything, not even my fav Pac album, but its impact on the game is absolutly undeniable. It really is the blueprint (sorry Jigga) for which all mainstream rap albums are measured by, because of its sheer scope: club bangers, hardcore street songs, west coast anthems and classic collab tracks, more introspective songs, etc.....All Eyez is the album EVERY mainstream rapper/mc dreams of making. And as you mentioned, it was hip hop's first double cd ever, thus setting countless trends. Nobody gave a fuck about making a double cd until Pac did it and sold 8 million+ (over 10 million now). Pac was the first rapper to put up MC Hammer type numbers and STILL maintain hip hop respect.
Not only was Eyez influential on the rap game, but it was a signifigant album in Pac's career. Before that album, he was a rap star, but Eyez was the album to launch him into being a global icon and the biggest artist of the genre.
Again its not my fav album ever but its most definatly a classic....the impact/influence it had along with the fact it propelled Pac from being a mere star into an ICON makes it one of the most enormous landmark albums of the genre.
I dare ANYONE to try and argue against these facts.
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I dont agree, but whatever.....
oh, and those 3 Pac albums are considered classic by an overwhelming consensus. Its not even really up for debate. When people list the best hip hop albums all the time, All Eyez on Me is one of the most common/popular albums listed, and Me Against The World and 7 Day Theory arent too far behind.
Are you a gimmick or something? Where the do you this bullshit from?
"Overwhelming consensus"? "All Eyez on Me is one of the most common/popular albums listed"? Maybe on 2Pac forums or something but the real world, no.
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I dont agree, but whatever.....
oh, and those 3 Pac albums are considered classic by an overwhelming consensus. Its not even really up for debate. When people list the best hip hop albums all the time, All Eyez on Me is one of the most common/popular albums listed, and Me Against The World and 7 Day Theory arent too far behind.
Are you a gimmick or something? Where the do you this bullshit from?
"Overwhelming consensus"? "All Eyez on Me is one of the most common/popular albums listed"? Maybe on 2Pac forums or something but the real world, no.
Shut the fuck up and take your fantasy livin ass out of here man. If you cant see that Eyez is considered a classic by a majority, you are one blind motherfucker. I know you like the biggest Pac hater in the world, but keep your idiotic comments to yourself. Go preach your bullshit to someone who GIVES A FLYING FUCK.
Somebody remove this gimp from my nuts......goddamn.
And just to list some facts for you, Rolling Stone mag included Eyez in their "essential recordings of the 90's" list, New Musical Entertainment gave it a 9/10, and even the wackass Source recognized its classic status when they went back and reviewed older albums and gave it 5 mics. Me Against The World got 5 mics too....XXL labeled the album a classic. And furthermore, you ask most rap fans to list classic albums, it is almost always one of the albums listed.....along with Chronic, Doggystyle, Illmatic, 36 Chambers, Aquemini, E.199 Eternal, Paid in Full, etc......
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Okay, I'm a hater but have all his albums and I rank him in the top ten of the best MCs ever.
I never said All Eyez On Me isn't a classic. In fact, I did label it a classic.
and you really shouldn't be talking about living in a fantasy world, really, look in the mirror.
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All Eyez On Me is my favourite album of all time
Doggystyle a close second
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Okay, I'm a hater but have all his albums and I rank him in the top ten of the best MCs ever.
I never said All Eyez On Me isn't a classic. In fact, I did label it a classic.
and you really shouldn't be talking about living in a fantasy world, really, look in the mirror.
Hahaha, how am I living in a fantasy world?? Because I think Pac is the G.O.A.T.?? Please.....
and in my time posting here, ive never seen you say any of Pac's albums were classic, or that he is a top 10 mc....all ive seen you do is hate.
Oh, and one other thing about All Eyez....its also the second longest charting rap album ever, at over 450 weeks to date. That album is never gonna stop selling.
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and in my time posting here, ive never seen you say any of Pac's albums were classic
If you peeped my "An Accurate List Of Classic Albums" (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=53275.0) thread a while back I put All Eyez On Me on there but it was borderline.
or that he is a top 10 mc....all ive seen you do is hate.
I don't really feel like searching for another quote from me but I have stated 2Pac is number eight on my list.
Hahaha, how am I living in a fantasy world?? Because I think Pac is the G.O.A.T.?? Please.....
No, actually a decent arguement can be made to have him number one. It's other bullshit you posted, too numerous to list that shows you're living in a fantasy world.
Oh, and one other thing about All Eyez....its also the second longest charting rap album ever, at over 450 weeks to date. That album is never gonna stop selling.
That's great cause we all know that sales equals quality.
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and in my time posting here, ive never seen you say any of Pac's albums were classic
If you peeped my "An Accurate List Of Classic Albums" (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=53275.0) thread a while back I put All Eyez On Me on there but it was borderline.
or that he is a top 10 mc....all ive seen you do is hate.
I don't really feel like searching for another quote from me but I have stated 2Pac is number eight on my list.
Hahaha, how am I living in a fantasy world?? Because I think Pac is the G.O.A.T.?? Please.....
No, actually a decent arguement can be made to have him number one. It's other bullshit you posted, too numerous to list that shows you're living in a fantasy world.
Oh, and one other thing about All Eyez....its also the second longest charting rap album ever, at over 450 weeks to date. That album is never gonna stop selling.
That's great cause we all know that sales equals quality.
The bullshit I post is so numerous, yet you couldnt even name one thing..... ::)
LMAO.
And AEOM charting for 450 weeks has nothing to do with its sales, but for the fact it has stayed on the charts that long.....time is the factor I am stressing here, not sales (though the album definatly has that too). Most rap albums, even big ones, just come and go. Not AEOM. That album will stay on the charts so long as it is in print.
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The bullshit I post is so numerous, yet you couldnt even name one thing..... ::)
LMAO.
Here you go:
All Eyez on Me is one of the most common/popular albums listed, and Me Against The World and 7 Day Theory arent too far behind.
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The bullshit I post is so numerous, yet you couldnt even name one thing..... ::)
LMAO.
Here you go:
All Eyez on Me is one of the most common/popular albums listed, and Me Against The World and 7 Day Theory arent too far behind.
There is nothing ridiculous about stating a fact, especially a well known fact such as that. All three of those albums are consistantly considered classics. The only unclear debate is which one is the best of the three.
Sorry, you gonna have to try harder.
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You said: "When people list the best hip hop albums all the time, All Eyez on Me is one of the most common/popular albums listed, and Me Against The World and 7 Day Theory arent too far behind."
Now it's difficult to prove this right or wrong but this is pretty good proof right here (http://www.hiphopsite.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=15592&sid=a9aefdd9159593a30cd1a7b72387c9fa). About 50 to 70 people are voting for the greatest albums ever. They are at #21 and no All Eyez On Me, no The Don Kiluminati (The 7 Day Theory) and no Me Against The World. Infact they still aren't even really close. So there is a good size sample of people going against that statement.
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Thats just one list though.....for every list that doesnt have a Pac album or two on it, I can find one that does.
we had a greatest album ever tournament HERE a couple years ago, of which I helped create, and AEOM and Makaveli were among the last 10 albums remaining.....as a matter of fact, AEOM made it to the finals, and lost to Doggystyle in a very close race. According to this board, Doggystyle is the greatest album ever, with AEOM a close second.
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1. All Eyez On Me
2. The Don Killuminati: The 7 Day Theory
3. Me Against The World
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4. Thug Life Volume 1
5. Strictly For My N.I.G.G.A.Z.
6. 2pacalypse Now
from the rest i only liked still i rise and a few tracks off until the end of time. the other discs re just :loopaper:
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call me crazy but...
1. Still I Rise (also best produced pac album)
2. All Eyez On Me
3. Makaveli
4. Me Against the World
5. Thug Life 1
6. Strictly 4 my Niggaz
7. Until the end of time
8. R U Still Down
9. Better Dayz
havent heard the rest.
peace
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Thats just one list though.....for every list that doesnt have a Pac album or two on it, I can find one that does.
we had a greatest album ever tournament HERE a couple years ago, of which I helped create, and AEOM and Makaveli were among the last 10 albums remaining.....as a matter of fact, AEOM made it to the finals, and lost to Doggystyle in a very close race. According to this board, Doggystyle is the greatest album ever, with AEOM a close second.
To be fair this board is VERY biased in general towards the west coast though, I doubt if you asked people on a most east coast, or even a more open minded board, Doggystyle and AEOM would almost certainly not come out as the two best hiphop albums ever.
To be honest man, you don't seem to be able to draw the line between your opinion, and what the general concenseus is. In your opinion Pac has three classics, in my opinion he has none, and someone elses opinion he may have one or two, its all down to the personal opinion of that person. So, to say that it is a fact that Pac has three classics is wrong.
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^^^whatever man...i aint gonna argue about this anymore, because it will resolve nothing. You most likely will not change your opinion, and I SURE AS HELL aint changing mine.....so lets just agree to disagree.
by technichal definition though, Pac's albums are classic.....just for the fact people are still buying them and playing them YEARS after their release, and the fact they will continue to be done so, so long is they are in circulation. In other words, they've stood the test of time.